Bahrain: Qualifying
What do we have in store for Qualifying today then? Firstly sun and sand, there’s no prediction of bad weather all weekend, unless of course you count blustery wind blowing cars around (and more sand onto the track).
Free practice three gave us a good indication of what to expect today, the McLaren’s were off colour, as was Nick Heidfeld, but Nico showed us that Australia wasn’t a one off event.
Do Renault have an answer to their problems, and can they do anything to convince Alonso that Ferrari isn’t the right way to go? Thus far, things have not been looking good at all.
We’re watching ITV’s coverage (which is also online if you can convince them you’re in the UK), and don’t forget live timing from f1.com (as if you could). Please give us a shout if you’re around and tell us how and where you’re watching.
Also, please do let us know your predictions for today’s qualifying event.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:44 amMichael Roberts said:
Hopefully we are finally going to see Rosberg on the front row.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:44 amme said:
that would be awesome, think it can happen?
April 5th, 2008 at 11:44 amScott Woodwiss said:
Hi guys, sorry I didnt make practice. I was asleep
I’m here now, though, just catching up on practice this morning.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:46 amLadySnowcat said:
Nico certainly loves Bahrain…
It’ll depend on what fuel the guys were on in practise….
April 5th, 2008 at 11:46 amChristine said:
Ahh, I wish
April 5th, 2008 at 11:47 amChristine said:
Whitmarsh says that McLaren may have been fuelled slightly heavier than the others, so that’s why they may not have shown race pace in FP3.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:50 amScott Woodwiss said:
The ITV competition looks nice, VIP trip to the Monaco GP. Christine, you should enter, your dream is to go to the Monaco GP, is it not?
April 5th, 2008 at 11:52 ambrendanstallard said:
“Ahh, I wish”
Christine,
Thats the trouble wif bein’ a vampire:)
My word, I think this is the first time I’ve seen and heard James Allen…gosh he’s awful!
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 11:52 amChristine said:
It certainly was, although I am less enamoured by the racing there these days!!
Interestingly, they sold all that good stuff, a top cruise, dinner with the captain, meet Murray Walker, and a free Grand Prix programme.
I’ve seen the official programmes, and they are nothing to write home about. I wouldn’t be using them to try and sell a competition, for sure.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:53 amNoldorado said:
hi all, this is my 1st time on the blog for an event
April 5th, 2008 at 11:54 amChristine said:
What was the question? Sometimes they’re crazy easy and sometimes I wouldn’t have a clue.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:54 amChristine said:
Hi Noldorado, welcome, make yourself at home
April 5th, 2008 at 11:56 ambrendanstallard said:
“your dream is to go to the Monaco GP, is it not?”
Scott,
I was a guest of my merchant banker girlfriend at Monaco some years ago. We were in one of the nicer hotels, and we were stood on the balcony with the rest of her outfit, drinking wine about 80 feet above one of the corners.
The shriek and the visuals as F1 cars went round streets we’d been driving on a few hours before was surreal and as scary an experience as I can imagine.
Monaco is carp on telly: but in the flesh, its summink else.
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 11:56 amMichael Roberts said:
What is the official language of Monaco?
April 5th, 2008 at 11:58 amChristine said:
Gotta love Google
April 5th, 2008 at 11:59 amScott Woodwiss said:
It will be interesting to see what kind of an effect the qualifying tweak will have.
My predictions for qualifying:
Massa
Raikkonen
Rosberg
Hamilton
Kubica
Kovalainen
Trulli
Coulthard
Nakajima
Bourdais
April 5th, 2008 at 12:01 pmme said:
piquet going first says a lot about renault’s confidence going into this session.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pmChristine said:
Slowest lap time I remember from the 3 practice sessions was 1:37, which is pretty close to the limit.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Piquet, the STRs, and Super Aguris are all out on track first.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:03 pmLadySnowcat said:
Flav knows Junior needs as many miles as possible….
April 5th, 2008 at 12:03 pmMichael Roberts said:
They showed Rosberg on the track but the timing screen shows he is in the pits?!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pmme said:
piquet first flying lap comes in at 1:34, track conditions not as good as earlier?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pmChristine said:
Anyone else’s live timing a bit dodgy?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pmLadySnowcat said:
Kimi usually gives me heartburn in this session by leaving it so long….
Malaysia as they expected rain was very nice….
April 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Bourdais goes quickest, he’s really flying this weekend. I said yesterday he’d be a good bet for Q3, and I stand by that.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:05 pmDan Brunell said:
Good morning… or afternoon.
I don’t know why, but I get the feeling that BMW has something up it’s sleeve… they been a little catty this season.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:05 pmSteven Roy said:
Live timing has frozen but the countdown is still working??
April 5th, 2008 at 12:05 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Trulli’s 3 1/2 tenths up at S1.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:05 pmlou said:
Hey all! Im here - but for how long i don’t know. Its seems to be a problem with the connection between my computer and your server. Well i take it it is i was given the message - Cannot connect to sidepodcast….and then something about a server. Have you guessed im not technically minded yet?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:06 pmme said:
seems odd that we can’t see the same thing, but thanks for sticking with us
April 5th, 2008 at 12:08 pmScott Woodwiss said:
The cross winds, if any, will play a big part in qualifying today. If they’re anything like they were yesterday, we’ll see people skidding off at the last corner due to the dust.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pmLadySnowcat said:
Live timing back…
Nakajima will have to do better…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pmScott Woodwiss said:
1′32.7 for Lewis, while Heikki grabs a 1′33.0.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pmChristine said:
Halfway through, and Ferrari, BMW and Honda still to take to the track.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pmme said:
macca’s P1 and and 2, with hamilton ahead. kovi heads trulli by 8 tenths.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pmDan Brunell said:
So which Tilke-drome is uglier: Bahrain or China?
They both look like ugly airports, the layout is unimaginative and both are nearly empty and void of life.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pmChristine said:
Button breaks first.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pmme said:
hamilton doing a second lap. that’s odd isn’t it?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pmScott Woodwiss said:
What is Fisichella doing? An experienced driver like that should know locking up does your tyres no favours. Although that could have been due to that dust everyone’s been talking about.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:11 pmme said:
i like the sand, makes for a different view.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Jenson’s on track now. I wonder if he’ll be able to surprise us with anything today.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pmme said:
massa purple in sector 1
April 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pmSteveintheUK said:
Hi All
Back from another 3 wasted hours at my bank
So what where the time like in FP3? Any surprises?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pmSteven Roy said:
I think the second lap is just data collection in case he is slightly off pole on his first they will know how much they can gain on a second flyer
April 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pmme said:
sato throws it into the wall, will it compromise the ferrari’s?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pmNoldorado said:
WOW, massa’s blindin!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Sato’s decided to become Mr Kamikaze all of a sudden after dropping it at the last corner. To be honest I’d expect nothing less from him.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pmChristine said:
That was a weird accident, backwards into the inside wall. Only Sato, eh?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pmSteven Roy said:
JV in the Ferrari pit!!!!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pmChristine said:
Why’s Villeneuve in the Ferrari garage?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pmSteveintheUK said:
Where they not both designed/copied by the same guy?
One design fits all
April 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pmMichael Roberts said:
Massa replaced by JV. You heard it here first!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pmme said:
yellow flag still waving? session stopped? huh.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pmChristine said:
Fisichella doesn’t have a time yet.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pmme said:
ha! love it.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:16 pmlou said:
Right. Im on my friends laptop
hopefully this will work. Im just hopeing my laptop sorts itself out for the race.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:16 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Massa’s times are considerably quicker than Kimi’s. Could this be an insight into what we’ll see from Ferrari in the race - Massa running away with while Kimi gives chase and acts in some way as a rear guard. Kimi certainly won’t like that, though.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:16 pmNoldorado said:
i would’ve liked to have seen JV in the Ferrari garage 5 years ago!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:16 pmSteven Roy said:
Seems a bit over the top stopping the session for a car that is off the track.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:17 pmme said:
agreed, even the yellow flag was excessive. the guys near the pit entrance but well off the line.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:17 pmChristine said:
Maybe it’s just cos they know no one should get a fast time with a yellow flag right at the end of the lap.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:17 pmDan Brunell said:
I said this before, but Massa’ interview on the Five Live prerace podcast was classic. He claimed that it isn’t driver error if he drives over a kerb and spin out.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:17 pmLadySnowcat said:
I wonder what the yellow flag position is…
Is Kimi involved?….
He set his time afterwards but his times in the later sections aren’t mega….
April 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pmSteven Roy said:
Sounds like Massa still expects the car to save him
April 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pmLadySnowcat said:
Massa’s interview on ITV suggested he knew he was at fault….
April 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Bourdais’ 3rd quickest in the speed trap. It looks like Le Seb is adjusting to the hot conditions better than Vettel. His laptimes are certainly proof of that.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pmSteven Roy said:
I guess it shows how bad Toyota are that they spent a week testing here with Ferrari and they are worse here than they were in Malaysia
April 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmLadySnowcat said:
They are all a bit slow getting out…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmSteven Roy said:
0.4 Bar is between 5 and 6 psi
April 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmNoldorado said:
toyota should be used to embarassment by now
April 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmChristine said:
No one going out yet, even though they can now.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmme said:
marshals not doing a particularly great job this weekend
April 5th, 2008 at 12:22 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Maybe it’s a case of Ferrari knowing something that we don’t, or they’re just plain quicker, regardless of whether the winter testing had an effect or not. Although, as I’ve said before, it looks like it definately has.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pmLadySnowcat said:
Ron is hot footing it to Charlie as we speak…
Disqualification of Massa on his mind…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pmSteveintheUK said:
Massa still thinking that is probably way JV is in the Ferrari pits, JV just helping Massa out with coming up with better excuse for when he puts it in the wall again.
JV was always good at coming up with great excuse.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pmScott Woodwiss said:
BMW will have to be careful that they don’t get overhauled in any way by the chasing pack. How embarrasing would it be for the 3rd best team to almost get knocked out? Rather, if you ask me.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:24 pmScott Woodwiss said:
“Understeering like a supermarket trolley”
That’s classic! Haha!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:24 pmLadySnowcat said:
DC on a good lap…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:25 pmChristine said:
Time is up, now will come the rush of cars.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:25 pmSteveintheUK said:
What did I miss? What’s Massa done now? My ITV live feed is jumpy
April 5th, 2008 at 12:25 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Glock just went 4th. Impressive stuff from him there.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Oh no! Bourdais is 16th!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Jenson 5th best! That I wasn’t expecting!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pmlou said:
Haha quote for the day ‘Its understrearing like a supermarket trolley!’
April 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmme said:
who was that still on a lap having to pass DC?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmlou said:
An amazing surprise!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmChristine said:
Phew, Bourdais just scrapes through.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Wow, looking from the timing screen, Bourdais managed to get through to Q2 by just 0.018 of a second. That’s cutting it fine for you.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmSteven Roy said:
What happened in the last two minutes. Did the laws of physics go for a tea break?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pmChristine said:
Out: Coulthard, Fisichella, Vettel, Sutil, Davidson and Sato.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pmLadySnowcat said:
Massa finished his lap under the yellows waved for Sato just before they pulled the red flag…
ITV are suggesting he’s not safe as he didn’t take his foot off the gas…
We’ll see…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pmNoldorado said:
let’s hope he doesn’t say ‘bansai lap’, he has no idea what it means. makes me wanna chew my own face off
April 5th, 2008 at 12:29 pmChristine said:
Presumably the big surprise there is Coulthard. What happened to him?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:29 pmSteveintheUK said:
But at the cost of DC. Sorry Christine
April 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pmChristine said:
I’m sure I spotted a car weaving through traffic again. I thought that was supposed to be fixed.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pmScott Woodwiss said:
“Honda, who seem to be making progress in general” What about Rubens, huh!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmme said:
wasn’t expecting that from button. both toyota’s really pulled it out of the bag.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmSteven Roy said:
It seemed like the track was constantly gaining speed over the last 30 seconds of the session. DC went P10 and everyone following him was faster. A really strange set of times.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmSteveintheUK said:
Thanks, Saw someone go pass but couldn’t work out who it was
Massa will probably either get pushed back down the grid by 5 places or lose his fastest time in Q3
April 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmlou said:
Oh my goodness i had not thought! Will Super Aguri be able to afford to fix the car?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmbrendanstallard said:
Crash Sato struck again……
April 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pmme said:
could the same thing happen in Q2, do we think?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pmLadySnowcat said:
So which of Williams, Toyota or BMW will make way for Alonso?…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Coulthard says it was the tyres that made him drop out of qualifying. At least, I think that’s what he meant from what I could make out.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pmme said:
he hasn’t done that for years though, and lewis did exactly the same yesterday.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:33 pmryan said:
Where’s Fisicella been? Has he even turned a lap yet?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:33 pmSteven Roy said:
I think DC said the tyres were good until the last two corners.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:34 pmme said:
5, but they were slow ones.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:34 pmLadySnowcat said:
Who is your money on for Q3…
Ferraris and Maccas should be joined by Toyota and Williams and BMW…
With Alonso possibly popping one of those guys out…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pmSteven Roy said:
Our chances of making Q3 are inexistant - Bourdais
April 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pmDan Brunell said:
Should we all start taking up a donation?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pmme said:
great radio from le seb. one set of tyres and one flying lap is all he’s going to do.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pmNoldorado said:
massa for pole, ‘for sure’
April 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pmScott Woodwiss said:
This track is situated in a hot climate, therefore it will have more of a degradation effect on the tyres. If the tyres are degrading more, the line rubber is going to increase quicker. That means anyone who waits for a bit in Q2 could and should have a little advantage due to the extra grip.
Meanwhile, le Seb says his chances of making Q3 are not-existant. Yeh, fill your team with confidence, why don’t you?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pmme said:
he’s out first in this session, i’m not confident he’ll make it through.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pmChristine said:
Bourdais is out on track though, the team obviously disagreed.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:37 pmSteveintheUK said:
Wind speed today is between 3.6mps (8mph) and 5.3mps (11.7mph) Higher than yesterdays 2.6mps (5.7mph). Todays it’s a head wind going down the main straight, so should help braking for the slow corner at the end.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:37 pmSteven Roy said:
Kimi was a bit spectacular leaving his garage
April 5th, 2008 at 12:38 pmChristine said:
Vettel first out after the restart.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:38 pmme said:
piquet messing up corner after corner. two lockups after each other.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:38 pmFelipe Leite said:
Maybe he can stay ahead of Glock. I believe this is his only chance of making it through Q3.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pmSteven Roy said:
Somebody wants to take Martin aside and explain that there are 14psi to a Bar
April 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pmFelipe Leite said:
Well, Glock is already ahead of Alonso. But they will try again.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pmScott Woodwiss said:
What on earth has Massa done to that car? He so much faster than Kimi.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pmme said:
good lap from massa into the 1:31’s, almost a high 1:30.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:41 pmFelipe Leite said:
Massa 0.7s ahead of Hamilton. An impressive first sector. 0.5s faster just in that setor!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:42 pmChristine said:
BMWs the last guys to set a time.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Kubica 3rd, nice lap there. Wonder what Nick can do.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:42 pmme said:
only 3 cars on track, last 2 minutes will be crazy
April 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pmChristine said:
Bourdais on track now. This is it.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Alonso feels like ne needs another run.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pmme said:
will kimi run again?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pmChristine said:
I’m guessing the 1:31 guys aren’t gonna bother coming out again?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:45 pmNoldorado said:
so where’s le seb? should be out by now
April 5th, 2008 at 12:45 pmScott Woodwiss said:
I thought Bourdais wasn’t doing another run. Change of heart, perhaps?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:45 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Everyone below 5th is out on track. Bourdais’s on his lap!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pmSteven Roy said:
The track temperature is constantly dropping
April 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Looking OK so far, come on Seb!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Damn! half a second off.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pmChristine said:
From 15th to 15th. Wonderful.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pmme said:
not a repeat of last time then
April 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Yeh! Button 10th!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pmme said:
heidfeld pulling that lap from nowhere!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Alonso got lucky…very lucky.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:49 pmlou said:
Button in the top 10!!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pmChristine said:
Out: Webber, Barrichello, Glock, Piquet, Bourdais, Nakajima
April 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pmSteven Roy said:
Interesting that 4 of the 6 drivers who drop out have team mates who have gone through. 6 different makes of car.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pmme said:
glock and piquet doing poor jobs compared to their teammates. glock you can forgive given he has trulli in the other car. piquet not doing a great job though.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pmLadySnowcat said:
So it was Glock and Nakajima who lost out to Alonso and our Jense….
Jense may go heavy and not bother or go very very light for a quick start and then a Trulli emulation…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:51 pmSteveintheUK said:
Button in to Q3 thats a surprise, Hope Hamilton and Raikkonene can speed up for Q3 other wise Massa is going to have an easy race, if he doesn’t put in it to the wall.
Radio 5 Live have gone over to football, Why? hope they go back to F1 for Q3
April 5th, 2008 at 12:51 pmlou said:
im back on my laptop now….i keep swapping everytime one laptop stops working on your site.
im dedicated lol
April 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pmme said:
massa seems the only known quantity in that bunch! kimi needs to hook up a decent lap. nico hasn’t impressed like we hoped he might, and the BMW’s could mess up mclaren’s plans.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pmMichael Roberts said:
It’s OK because Massa will be banned when they discover the extra engine in his car.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pmme said:
impressive!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pmLadySnowcat said:
Have ITV started to get over Lewis?…
They have been pretty quiet on that front…
April 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmSteven Roy said:
What are the chances of Massa getting over excited and dropping it in Q3 or will he wait to the race before he spins
April 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmme said:
i could see him going for a bit of glory here. he managed 11th last qualifying, to be just one place ahead isn’t a massive jump forward.
i’d go light.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmSteveintheUK said:
Yeah, it’s dropped from 46c down to 39c, but the air temp has stay more or less the same, 30c down to 28c. Wind speed has increase to gusts of 6.1mps (13.5mph)which must be cooling the track down.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmFelipe Leite said:
Well, probably Massa will be pole, but I am expecting a fierce competition for 2nd to 6th positions. Kimmi, Lewis, Kova, Kubica and Heidfeld seems very close.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmme said:
they went OTT last race, maybe they’ve been “told”
April 5th, 2008 at 12:55 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Williams not going to touch the front wing due to possible understeer, although Nico seemed to disagree.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:55 pmSteveintheUK said:
They have enough trouble keeping one engine running, so how do they cope with running two?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:56 pmlou said:
I would think he would go heavy and do a long first stint.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:56 pmChristine said:
Button first out - he’s keen.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:57 pmScott Woodwiss said:
My updated predictions for qualifying:
Massa
Raikkonen
Kubica
Hamilton
Heidfeld
Rosberg
Kovalainen
Trulli
Alonso
Button
April 5th, 2008 at 12:57 pmme said:
ted saying he’s flat out of soft tyres, so sounds likely.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmSteveintheUK said:
Have they even said his name since quail started, apart from when they go thought the order.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmRich said:
Wonder how much longer Nakajima will remain at Williams with another fairly disastrous performance - or are they that in need of some Japanese funding?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmChristine said:
They did that last time JB got through to the top ten. Is it cos they aren’t prepared, or are they thinking more long term?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmme said:
anyone know if the new rules effect all slow laps, or just the in laps?
April 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pmme said:
yup!
April 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Ha! they said Lewis Hamilton!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmChristine said:
Hamilton P1 but where’s Massa?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmlou said:
Having only seen the snippets of Jenson on track looks like he is on hard tyres. I did not see the white strip anyway.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmSteveintheUK said:
From what they just said, the new 120 per cent rule is only for Q3
April 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmChristine said:
Alonso must be swearing something rotten, he’s behind Button right now.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmme said:
bmw are parking heidfeld? no racing pitstop?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Massa only beats Kubica by 1 hundredth. Heidfeld looks like he’s not happy with anything. I knew he had problems in practice, but something’s definately not right with Fuzz Face today.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pmSteveintheUK said:
Top 5 are less than half a second apart, with just over a tenth between 3rd and 5th, should make the run for 2nd row interesting
April 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pmSteven Roy said:
Queueing pit stops in quali????
April 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmme said:
heidfeld rejoins, again.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Looks like Ferrari made a wing adjustment to Kimi’s car. More grip to the front maybe?
Hamilton’s engineer says the last corner is the place where he could lose time the most.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmme said:
that was what i was expecting, thought it odd that bmw didn’t.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pmSteveintheUK said:
Sounds like from the commentary that it apply’s to all laps in Q3
April 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pmlou said:
But i bet Jenson is beamming!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pmme said:
kubica faster than both mclarens in first sector
April 5th, 2008 at 1:05 pmSteveintheUK said:
BBC 5 Live didn’t come back for Q3, why
April 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Now or never for Lewis. If he messes up, he’s had it.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmme said:
“pole on pole” reads every website and newspaper
April 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmlou said:
Steller lap from Kubica!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmFelipe Leite said:
OMG A pole on pole!!!!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmDan Brunell said:
I bet Toyota has it for the guy for some reason. How he got the Williams seat in the first place was strange. I bet Toyota cut them a deal to take him on. Wurz’ “retirement” seemed a little strange.
I think he needs to pull a “Glock” where he needs to test or drive GP2 or something else for a few more season to develop.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pmSteven Roy said:
Yes!!!!
I predicted Kubica on GP Wizard’s grid game
April 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pmme said:
damn impressive stuff, who would’ve bet against massa going into this session?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pmSteveintheUK said:
Kubica on pole, by less then a 0.3 of a second
April 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Wow, that’s brilliant for BMW! I’m so happy for Robert, he thoroughly deserves it.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmlou said:
April 5th, 2008 at 1:09 pmSteveintheUK said:
My Fantasy Racers
Kubica on pole
Heidfeld in 6th
Webber in 11th
Glock in 13th
and
Bourdais in 15th
I think I may actually get some points this weekend
Racing4Last, but going for, well not last, have to save that place for Christine.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:09 pmSteven Roy said:
3 different constructors in the first 3. When did that last happen?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:09 pmme said:
i think heidfeld will have the better bmw strategy for the race. so long as he keeps ahead of trulli. kubica must be running a bit light.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pmChristine said:
I have Kubica, too.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Just left a quick voicemail
April 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pmSteven Roy said:
Looks like Christine’s strategy is about to pay off
April 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pmSteveintheUK said:
It’s almost as if Hamilton was the one court on video last week and not Max, wonder what Hamilton has done to upset his fan boys at ITV? even the BBC Radio 5 Live guys didn’t talk about him much today.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:13 pmme said:
kimi is on the dirty side of the track, as is massa. could have trouble with lewis into the first corner, kimi has kovi behind him.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pmSteveintheUK said:
But you STILL have DC, I don’t, so should beat you for that alone, Sorry
April 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pmFelipe Leite said:
Well, it seems that Kubica is extra light, and both Ferraris seem to have a heavy load of fuel. It’s going to be a well disputed race tomorrow!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pmme said:
maybe they read the comments here
April 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmSteven Roy said:
Lewis criticised Max and ITV/BBC don’t want to say anything that might upset Max in case he survives
April 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmLadySnowcat said:
Who is on a one stop strategy…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmChristine said:
I don’t have DC. I do have Vettel, which is just as bad.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmScott Woodwiss said:
I laughed at Kimi storming out behind Jenson!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmlou said:
So nice to see someone else on pole! Not just Macca or Ferrari!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmme said:
does button have a different girl holding his umbrella / dictaphone? not the blonde one anymore.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmSteveintheUK said:
Kubica just said that he lost 16kg’s before the session started, thats around 2.5 stone, how fat was he last year? surprised he could have fitted in to the cars last year if he had to lose that amount.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmlou said:
lol i saw that! hehe
April 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmme said:
ha! yeah, hasn’t gone well considering he was talking about pole on thursday.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmChristine said:
Phew, Australia last year.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:18 pmSteveintheUK said:
I hope not, that blonde one was really cute, Think her name was Jewel, or Jewel’s
April 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmme said:
if it was her, she’s dyed her hair and shrunk
April 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmCorey said:
Stunning lap from Kubica my money was on Massa all the way. Great to have another team capable of taking pole
April 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmme said:
who was it?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmLadySnowcat said:
The strategies are going to be very interesting…
I wonder if they put more fuel than they should have in Massa’s car…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmSteveintheUK said:
And both BMW’s in the top 6, poor Alonso, will he ever win a race again, yet alone another championship?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Haha! Kubica sounds happy…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmChristine said:
1. Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2. Alonso (McLaren)
3. Heidfeld (BMW)
Enough questions. That’s more than enough research for one day.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmlou said:
I made the same mistake :/ but i also have Jenson, Alonso, and Kovi. *fingures crossed they all finish or at least get 1/2 way through the race* i may be in for afew pionts! i could improve on my 98th! hehe
April 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmFred B said:
Massa has to be penalised. I know there didn’t appear to be much danger while the yellows were being waved but the race director obviously thought it serious enough to red-flag the session.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmme said:
it’s suggested that the previous corner flags had been put away and the marshal wasn’t doing his job right.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmSteven Roy said:
I thought Kubica said he lost 6kg not 16
April 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Tomorrow’s weather will be a high of 28C. If there’s any wind as well, that will be important, especially for grip and track conditions.
Lewis sounds quite unhappy in the press conference.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pmlou said:
Kubica does not really seem very interested with whats going on. Hamilton looks thrilled to be 3rd.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmSteven Roy said:
I thought Lewis looked and sounded confident but Massa looked like someone had stolen his Smarties
April 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmme said:
he did, he said 6kg in 6 weeks.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmlou said:
hehe Jenson looked pleased!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmRich said:
Agree it is good to see the BMW Sauber on pole - especially after Schumacher senior rather rubbished their progress when brother junior commented on them being a potential threat to the red tide and Macca. Well done Robert!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pmDan Brunell said:
OK, I am jumping on the BMW bandwagon. They have been so much fun to watch this season so far.
I’ve always been an F1 “widow” since Lotus went away… after watching BMW these first three races and some cool things they have done over the last few years (the Nurburgring run for example,) I am really considering them as “my” new team. I can’t find a reason not to like them.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmSteven Roy said:
Nico looks really happy. Seems confident for the race
April 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmSteveintheUK said:
I agree, driver’s have no idea when they are going around the corners as to why the yellows are being waived, so to ignore them is just stupid, look at what happened in Brazil a few years ago, last corner of track, one or two cars hit the barrier and then another came flying round at full speed under yellow, hit something on the track and eneded up having a massive crash agaisnt the wall.
I’m sure Christine can do some research for you to say what year and driver it was, Thanks in advance for that Christine.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Hahaha, smarties.
I had him down as more of a Revels man myself. Looked like he’d gotten the coffee one.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmSteven Roy said:
Got to go now. I will try to be on time for the race.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmSteveintheUK said:
6kg’s, that would make so much more sense, I must of been thinking about the 16kg that I need to lose, Sorry
April 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmme said:
alonso hit a tyre. maybe webbers. i forget.
eat that research girl
April 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pmChristine said:
I don’t need to research things when I’ve got memory boy on my side
April 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pmme said:
we’ll be here. cheers.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pmLadySnowcat said:
Kimi for a one stopper perhaps?…
Like 2006?…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:31 pmSteven Roy said:
Was that the Brazilian GP that Fisi won the following Thursday?
Webber had a huge crash in the last corner and Alonso arrived flat out and hit the debris
April 5th, 2008 at 1:32 pmme said:
interesting. hmmm, possibly but he’ll get swamped at the start on that side of the grid, no?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:32 pmChristine said:
That’s the one. Apparently this is the first race I ever watched, but I don’t believe it because I think I’d remember a Jordan winning something.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmSteveintheUK said:
Yes, it was Alonso, Thanks, Also wasn’t that also the race where Webber’s bad run of luck started?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmSteveintheUK said:
So did you mean ‘me’ or Steven Roy?
April 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmlou said:
It looks like my laptop seems to have sorted itself out….but i may be speaking too soon
Wow that was a good quali! eeeee that made my day!! Although i would like to have seen Le Seb in Q2, and Barrichello in Q1.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmLadySnowcat said:
Possibly but he usually starts pretty well…he’s outraced Lewis before… and I think overtaking is going to be all but impossible as you will need to get on the dirt…
It’s probably unlikely and he’ll probably finish 3rd…again…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmChristine said:
I meant me, but Steven seems pretty fab too.
Cool names, though. Research girl and Memory boy, we could fight crime
April 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmJonathan Goodbun said:
Good on Kubica, lets see him playt with the big boy’s.
One other thing in interviews a quite a few drivers favorite words seems to be “for sure” listen out!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmme said:
no idea what’s going on there, but glad you enjoyed it.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmSteveintheUK said:
Wasn’t the only race Jordan won was when Damon Hill won in a really wet race somewhere, and hardly anybody finished, maybe Japan, or could have been UK? Any idea Steven Roy? and sorry to ask.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:40 pmFred B said:
I remember feeling very sorry for DC in that race (Brazil 2003) - he would have won had he not pitted a lap or two before the incident.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pmDan Brunell said:
I’m wondering how much fuel is in Massa’ car. He did after all nearly drop two seconds (and change) from Q2. He might be on a long first run strategy. I bet he will be out there longer than Kubica and maybe Hamilton
April 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pmRich said:
I support the BMW Sauber (originally when it was Sauber cos they we doing some good promo like raising AIDS issues in Botswana). Of the the team principles I like Mario since he is level headed and appears to be fair to his driver and other drivers and times. Admittedly he was not hugely complementary on the kinky Max’s latest parlour shananagins. My other favourite teams are Honda (I am an ecologist/environmentalist) and Renault.
Compare this to Dennis’s who has stated
it is enough to make you vomit - Heikki has at least distanced himself from this claim.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmRich said:
I agree with Dan I think the red tide is carrying a lot of fuel and will still be deadly.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pmme said:
so then, tomorrows race is set up to be something of a craker. massa needs a good run to silence his critics, but he’ll but up against hamilton into the first corner.
further back, the mid-field teams are pretty mixed up. nico sounded confident post race, renault are suffering.
at the moment there are no mechanical changes or penalties imposed, so the back of the pack looks pretty straightforward.
christine’s podcast is coming later while we’ll also record part 1 of sunday’s show before midnight. keep the comments, voicemails and emails coming and we’ll be back tomorrow approx half before race start (12:30pm).
thanx all
April 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmLadySnowcat said:
Massa blamed Nico for unsetting his lap so I don’t think he’s heavy…
I also think Ferrari would have wanted him on pole for his confidence too… he’s only ever won from pole I believe….
April 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmRich said:
I am sure Christine would agree - Le Seb is impressing me - deserves rather more of a car than last year’s STR.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pmme said:
agreed. distanced would be one way of putting it. flat out denied would be another. dennis likes to take the credit.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:48 pmme said:
it’s always been assumed (make that stated by bernie) that f1 drivers were better than their US racing counterparts. after race one and today i’m not so sure.
mind you he was hopeless during his only lap in malaysia.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmDan Brunell said:
Oh no… here we go again…
Alright, it is 5:49 AM my time… I think it about time I get some sleep… Till tomorrow… bye.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmRich said:
I wonder how much longer DC will be around what with his team mate almost getting into final round and he not getting beyond the first round of qualification!
April 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pmme said:
blimey! see ya.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pmme said:
never been the worlds best qualifier that guy.
webber doesn’t finish a lot of races though, so they need someone to bring the car home. poor showing from DC today though.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pmRich said:
True - but others like Mark Webber often do not do any better and people think highly of them. It would be good to see one of the racers successful in the US do well in F1 and not because he was in the best at the time like JV.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmSteveintheUK said:
Radio 5 Live has just played a replay of the last 30sec of Q3
880+ comments so far for the Bahrain race, with 260ish for Quail,looks like the move to mt is paying off, so far.
Not bad concidering that from the post you did about number’s you only had 1,548 comments in the whole of 2007.
With 1,278 comments over the Malaysia weekend, and 852 comments for the Australia weekend your on your why to some really high figure’s for 2008, the number of comments for just this weekend should exceed those for 2007. Great work, and great idea to start the Live comments, just wonder which one of you is going to take the credit for this?
I now that’s really just a list of some basic stats rather than a comment, but I like knowing these things, Sorry
April 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmme said:
good point, vettel’s a good benchmark for the guy too.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmNONSENSE said:
Hmm, my twin brother thinks KUB is carrying less fuel than the rest. I think we’ll see the repeat of 2005 Nurburgring. Nice little PR stunt from the Bavarians. Sick Nick is getting sicker… I’d like to see some devilish duels tomorrow. Like PDLR - Webber in 2005.
It should be an interesting start tomorrow.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmJordan said:
Reliving his childhood. The guy’s old man is still a god to Ferrari, after all….
Jordan
April 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmme said:
it’s lou’s fault, she asked us for somewhere to discuss FP1 in australia so we did this
not a problem, always worth a reminder
we like stats, feel free to carry on.
April 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmNONSENSE said:
My Taku is back! I love it when he does his crazy dance!!!
April 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmme said:
that was fun wasn’t it? it’s a great lineup for the start, let’s see who’s lucks in.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmAlex Andronov said:
On the Massa front it seems to me that all Ferrari need to prove is that he slowed down after seeing the yellow flag. His final sector might have been the fastest he did, but Ferrari can surely claim that if he slowed down so much as to artificially make that final sector slower than his outlap he would have been a danger to other drivers coming up behind him.
He didn’t have a lot of room to slow down enough, as long as he lifted even a bit I’m sure that would have been enough.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:02 pmLadySnowcat said:
The big problem is overtaking…
The track design is good for it but the fact that it is deadly off line on the dirt mitigates against…. so there will be a number of cars who gather a train….
Unless they can get by on the straights I guess….
April 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmJordan said:
I am quite sure that no self-respecting Ferrari would dare be slower than 2 seconds a lap faster than its siter Ferrari with a Villeneuve and the number 27 on board. Just for the “rep” it has to maintain…
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pmSteveintheUK said:
So we can all blame Lou tomorrow if the server crashes during the race then, sure it won’t though.
I just opened an account with mt to test them out, so they better stay up. Still waiting for DreamHost to get back working again.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:09 pmMar said:
I am afraid a bit that Kubica might be ligther than Massa or Nick, but looking at the Q2 times the difference maybe is not that great.
Anyway, I am just looking to see Robert on the podium again
April 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmme said:
as i said yesterday, they have an alert out at the moment relating to intermittent access problems, and lou said she can’t get onto the site. so you may not wanna judge them right now.
they’ve been pretty good for f1minute.com until now though. although i think that’s a less trafficked site than this one, and also has a smaller database.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmJordan said:
No way! With Schumacher demanding Number 1 status JV was far better off where he is now. I thought Barrichello was great with Stewart, but after he joined Ferrari, I would not take him on board if he ensured me the biggest budget in F1. My proof is look at Honda now…
Only Eddie Irvine was able to increase in respect during his time as Scuhmacher’s teamate in Ferrari. It did help that I thought he was a joke before joining Ferrari , and I thought he was there just to guard Schumacher. Irivne deserved being team Lead at Jagaur, but he quickly became the joke that he was before joining Ferrari again.
Jordan.
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pmSteveintheUK said:
The problem with overtaking on the straight is trying to stop at the end, off line is so dirty that the tyres just pick it all up when going of line, and the more dust on the tyres the less grip they have for stopping. The wings give enough downforce at high speed on the straights to over come this problem, but below 100mph, the wings don’t really do much, so slowly down that last little bit in order to get around the corner is going to be the fun bit to watch.
I think we are going to see lots of cars going wide after overtaking due to the dust and sand off-line.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:17 pmSteveintheUK said:
After you said that last time I signed up for the pay monthly option so I can keep them for however long it takes to sort out how good they are, I’ve had problems again today accessing this site, but after 2 or 3 refreshes it finally pops up again, so i will give mt plenty of time to prove themself’s, I have had some hosting companies under test for over a year now, so I didn’t mind waiting for them.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pmJordan said:
Noldorado said:
let’s hope he doesn’t say ‘bansai lap’, he has no idea what it means. makes me wanna chew my own face off
Well Banzai in Japanese directly translated into English means “Life of a thousnad years” or commonly accepted as “long life”, So with the possbile exception of the “Super Aguri’s” I can not picutre any driver wanting a Banzai lap. (a lap of a 1000 years would be an improvement.)
“Banzai” to Westerners form the “shock effect” of being on the the receiving end of Japanese attacks during the Second War War. Where, since japanese soldiers where charging at them yelling “Banzai” (Long Life “) The westerners naturally assumed that “Banzai” meant “Charge”.
Bakas!
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pmJordan said:
Well, considering that Suzukisan and Honda built Super Aguri for Sato, it is a safe bet that Sato will be racing, although Davidson might have to give up his car for the day.
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:40 pmJordan said:
… and an engine from somewhere….Williams got Nakajima and a Toyota engine in a “package” deal….
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 2:57 pmNONSENSE said:
Portuguese Autosport claims Massa has more fuel for at least 3 or 4 laps than KUB. You don’t need to have spies in the paddock to come up with that conclusion. But no spy can tell you whether Little Red Felipe might choose to continue with his spin odyssey 2008 or Nakajima/Sato decide to eliminate KUB at some stage.
April 5th, 2008 at 3:01 pmlou said:
lol
I’ve just come back after having lunch and i found all these comments. Really made me smile, first time i think i have been mentioned so many times. Although i think i have been punished enough because of all the problems i have been having today with the internet and getting onto sidepodcast :s
Anyway im glad it has taken off in the way it has.
April 5th, 2008 at 3:18 pmJordan said:
Guten Tag, Christine, Wie Geths?
I think you want to forget that race because if memory serves me, Button won it until that said Thursday came up.
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 3:29 pmJordan said:
No. There were four Jordan victories in thier life. The winners were “Hurryin’ Heinz” Frentzen, Damon Hill, and Giancarlo Fisichella. I do know who got the fourth win but I think Frentzen got the second some were. The best was Hill’s as it was a Jordan one-two with Raflie Schumacher begin order by Jordan over Team Radio to to stay 3 seconds behind Hill at all times or else look for a job. This was because Schumacher had earlier decided to crash into Hill and take himself out while being in 1st and 2nd in a previous race that same year.
This would be the 1999 season when Jordan had a giant-kiler of a car.
Bitten Heros Jordan F1
April 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pmYumi said:
ok. this is my first time in sidepodcast, and I found this website just amazing as well as your videos, they have an excellent quality.
I want to say that I am quite impressed for Kubica pole position.. BMW is getting better and thats good for the formula 1- for me is a little bit disgusting in order that I am a huge fan of Ferrari-. But I am quite confident that despite of BMW pole, Both Ferraris have good chances to win.
Especially I want to see how Kimi overtakes Hamilton..
Thanks for this site. Greetings.
April 5th, 2008 at 3:44 pmJordan said:
Maybe but if anyone cares to do the research will only have to look at http://www.f1rejects.com to see all the lousy F1 drivers who became excellent drivers in Champcar ==> Stefan Johansson, Danny Sullivan, Christian Fittipaldi, Emerson Fittipaldi, Robet Guerrero, Alessandro Zanardi, and Nigel Mansell whereas the best in Champcar move up to F1. Case in point is Le Seb today. Mario Andertti, his son MIchael, Jacques Villeneuve, Juan-Paublo Montoya all made their way in F1 via Champcar and Alessandro Zanardi made a less than stellar return to F1 from champcar
April 5th, 2008 at 3:47 pmbrendanstallard said:
“Especially I want to see how Kimi overtakes Hamilton..”
Yumi,
Now there’s fighting talk for ya: hold on, I’ll get me baseball bat:)
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 4:03 pmdaniel said:
wow, great to see all these posts. excellent Q and really looking forward to the race tomorrow. first corner will be a tough fight. kubica on low fuel, or where did that extra pace come from? quick-nick a bit behind there..
April 5th, 2008 at 4:07 pmJordan said:
Simple: KImi’s been learning from the master. A nice little “Schumacher Chop” off the starrt to take the inside and when Hamilton takes the outside keep going striaght so either Hamilton brakes or goes off the track.
Assuming Hamilton does not beach it that should put Hamilton down in P22 or somewhere around there….
Brendan: I have a pitching machine. Do you bat left or right so I can set it set at High and inside.
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pmbrendanstallard said:
“KImi’s been learning from the master.”
Jordan,
Remember yer history: while Schumi could certainly do the biz on track: a whole lot of the time, after overtaking got real difficult: he preferred to do his passing in the pits.
Also: from my memory of last and this year: Hamilton is regularly a pretty fast starter. I’m not forecasting, but it would not surprise me at all to see Hamilton either first or second after the first corner.
However: that could also be a highly combustible first corner.
“High and inside.”
Heh, as long as I can take you back to the cricket afterwards: I have a history of dealing out “chin music” with the red leather ball:)
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 4:48 pmScott Woodwiss said:
To clear up the Jordan question asked earlier, their 4 wins came courtesy of:
Damon Hill, Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium, 1998
Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Magny-Cours, France, 1999
Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Monza, Italy, 1999
Giancarlo Fisichella, Interlagos, Brazil, 2003
Isn’t it ironic that all of those races bar Monza were rain-affected?
April 5th, 2008 at 4:52 pmme said:
kimi wasn’t it?
April 5th, 2008 at 4:59 pmScott Woodwiss said:
I think I remember in Imola, they had a presentation of Kimi handing the Brazil winner’s trophy to Fisi on track with both their cars!
April 5th, 2008 at 5:08 pmLadySnowcat said:
It was definitely originally gven to the Kimster…
Don’t forget that it was in 2003 and Kimi lost to Michael by 2 points….
Ironic that the accident that red flagged the race was Alonso’s….
April 5th, 2008 at 5:10 pmScott Woodwiss said:
By the way, if anyone wants to try their hand at F1 management, I can strongly recommend an F1 management PC game called Grand Prix World. It starts in 1998 with Schumacher, Hakkinen, Villeneuve, etc. plus some made up non-f1 drivers with names like Dario Laureti and Pierre Raimbeaux, lets you manage a team until 2007, if you manage to make it that far.
I only started playing it again recently and decided to try managing Minardi and building it up. I started with $800,000 in the bank at the start of 1998, but by the end of 2007, I’d taken the small Italian minnows from Faenza to 2 drivers and 3 constructors championships. I had works deals with Mercedes-Benz, Shell and Bridgestone and Ralf Schumacher and Olivier Panis on board. Money wise? At one point, I had around $62 million.
For a game that at times comes across as entirely unrealistic, it can and does become very addictive to play through. All major aspects of F1 are catered for, from sponsorship deals, car design and repairs, to hospitality, product licensing, team orders and testing. At times, you can be struggling through with an average car and below-par drivers, but with enough work and effort, you’ll be winning championships and securing big money deals and top drivers.
If you’re interested in this game, a quick search on eBay has a few copies up for sale for just a few pounds. Also, if you feel the game could do with freshening up, a search for “Grand Prix World updates” on Google can give you access to season updates as recent as this year - that’s right, you can up date your version of GPW to become GPW 2008!
I give this game a rating of 10/10, but a word of caution: If you’re using either XP or Vista, you will need to download a special patch that allows you to play the game on such operating systems. But once that’s in place, you’re free to begin your quest for world championship glory!
Thank you, please.
April 5th, 2008 at 5:45 pmJordan said:
True, but the whole idea of the “Schumacher Chop” is to use the advantage provided by being stopped a few meters in front of the car one position down on you to cut across the lower positionly placed car’s nose. Either the guy behind you breaks slightly so that the person in front cuts you off or there a multiple car pile up before the race offially starts for them.
Okay, so maybe KImi can not really make this “Schumacher Chop” work in Bahrain, but if Massa’s car is pointed slightly to the left at the end of the formation lap, this could get intersting for Hamilton….Especially if KImi dives to right at the start.
Hey I remeber my history. I said that Jordan won four races with, Hill, Frentzen, and Fisichella, and I deduced that Frentzen won the forth. Belgium ‘99 was the Jordan 1-2, as Eddie Jordan was screaming at Ralf Schumacher to maintain station, do not think of passing Hill or else start looking of a job.
Now as to Brazil 2003, I think Button passed Fisichella for the lead, and shotly afterwards there was a monsoon and something like four cars where beached at the “Senna S” and it got to the point where the race was red flag as it was deemed to dangerous to drive. The races was past 3/4 distance, so was booked an offical race, as the two hour time limit would be past before the race could be restarted, and now the part I can not figure out with the GPS systems then in place:
The rules called that if the event where red-flag, they would use the standings at the end of the previous 2 laps before the red flag. As Button pasted Fisichella on the previous lap before the red flag, the results showed that Fisichella was leading on the 2nd to last lap and thus Fisichella and Jordan got their wins.
But as Me/Claude/Me pointed out, maybe it was Kimi who passed Fisichella and maybe am just trying to rattle Christine’s Chain…. I still say it was Button who passed Fisichella.
Bittin Heros Jordan F1
April 5th, 2008 at 5:57 pmbrendanstallard said:
“maybe am just trying to rattle Christine’s Chain”
Jordan,
Extensively courageous: me old mate:)
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 5:58 pmYumi said:
pmbrendanstallard said:
“KImi’s been learning from the master.”
I really agree with that.. Maybe Kimi has been remembering how Schumi overtakes him in Brasil 2006.. (I cant forget that moment) Kimi will just play for few laps hide & seek but.. in the moment when Hamilton is dreaming about his next podium.. he will just see Kimi´s dust..and finally Podium for both Ferraris
And then the Ferraris will play soccer with Schumi with a grey metallic ball..
April 5th, 2008 at 6:03 pmme said:
stretching my brain muscles here a bit, but didn’t button fly off the road and nearly take out schumi’s legs?
i think he watched the last couple of laps from the sides. long time ago though.
April 5th, 2008 at 6:16 pmJordan said:
Well, now that Q is done, my cowardly predictions for teh Bahrain 2008 Grand Prix are:
1st) Kubica
2nd) Hamilton
3rd) Raikkonen
4th) Kovaleinen
5th) Heidfeld
6th) Alonso
7th) Rosberg
8th) Nakajima
9th) Piquet
10th) Button
Button in 10th? Is Christine jetting it to Bahrain with a Blue Flag?
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 6:49 pmJordan said:
“Banzai!” He screams as he runs straight at the Machine Gun….
Having checked my memory against the wikipedia article for the 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix, let the record state that I was trying to rattle Christine’s Chain…
April 5th, 2008 at 6:55 pmJordan said:
Compared to being Nakajima’s pit crew, what is so “Extensively courageous” about making fun of Christine’s inability to pick good racing drivers for her virtual F1 team?
It at least gives me a way of covering up my own mistakes (see above) right?
Method to my madness
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 8:26 pmbrendanstallard said:
“Method to my madness”
Jordan,
I have sent your application for employment to Jim Hacker himself!
You are courageous and perfectly proportioned:)
brendan
April 5th, 2008 at 8:37 pmScott Woodwiss said:
So when’s the podcast for qualifying going up?
April 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pmme said:
i think christine’s doing it as we speak, just listened to your voicemail, very cool stuff.
she then has to do f1 minute and both will go up, soon after.
then we do part 1 of sunday’s show, although i will have had a beer or two by then, so lord knows what that’ll be like.
just for the record, i do actually do some work, it’s just she works way more efficiently
April 5th, 2008 at 8:51 pmScott Woodwiss said:
haha good times.
April 5th, 2008 at 9:11 pmJordan said:
Great! I would love whatever Cabinet posting controls your Colonies and Overseas terrories…. The lass and I would love to do some dives in the Britsh Virgin and Cayman Islands, especially if done on Biritish Taxpayer expense… (Hey I would actually be working, making sure the dive sites are up to stuff (tourism being a major part of the ecomonic system of thus overseas terrories….
Too bad he’s only a fictional Prime Minister…..
Hey now that he’s in an American jail, what do I have to do to get the Blackwater Lordship ?
Jordan.
April 5th, 2008 at 9:26 pmRich said:
Interesting that you include Nigel Mansell and Emerson Fittipaldi in the category “lousy F1 drivers”. I know what you mean their F1 sell by date had passed and they moved across the duck pond. I suspect the Champcars are more equal across teams and this makes a huge difference. In F1 you are only as good as the team your are in. I am not convinced Hamilton is a faster or better driver than Button. Had Heidfeld been driving Ferrari last year no doubt he would have been World Champion (based on his consistency in point scoring). Alonso looks mediocre this year - but we know him to be a fast driver - he equalled Hamilton on points despite the best intentions of his team to thwart such aspirations. Last year you could only succeed if you were in a Macca or Ferrari, hopefully other teams like BMW Sauber, Toyota, Williams, Honda and Renault will upset things this year. Looking at the grid for tomorrow it is good to see Trulli, Rosberg and Button up there - they are all far better drivers than Massa.
April 5th, 2008 at 9:41 pmRich said:
Being part of Nakajima’s pit crew is beyond normal definitions of bravery - I wonder what sort of life assurance policies they have and whether Williams or Toyota contribute to these?
Christine’s choice is a brave one and based on who she likes and considers good irrespective of the machinery they have to work with (my interpretation). I made my team up to score as few points as possible (but having to spend as close to the limit as possible) so Christine will never be last. My team has done well with six drivers selected only two got into Qualifying-2. Mark Webber is the only thorn in the team by providing an embarrassment of riches, but his good luck cannot run for long.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:00 pmJordan said:
Rich:
Right now it is really bad in Americna Open Wheel racing, as the two series are still split (which dilutes the field) and the ovals allow the slower cars to slipstream over a few laps to catch up t faster cars. On the road tracks or street circuits, I think they have more or less the same problmes with overtaking as F1 does.
As to “il Loeone” and “Emo”:
Okay, maybe I was being a little harsh to Mansell, but not much, he sure can be labaled “Lousy” for his “awesome” 1994 and 1995 seasons, and somethings wrong when an F1 driver who has not raced in a year was given a race seat five races from the end of the 1992 season. So what if it was Alain Prost? You’re the current World Champion and you are afraid of a Frenchman who has not raced in a year? Come on…. And Mansell should have see that Seena’s offer to drive for Williams for free was B.S., or he was still under contract or soemthing. Williams would have jumped at the chamce to have Senna on board. Or perhaps Mansell was to afraid of Damon Hill? Give me a break, Hill-mania was the Best Comedy rountine since “Monty Python”.
“Emo” became a lousy driver the minute he joined Copersucar, and stayed there for 5 years. (Hey that would make an awesome Sidepodcast virtual F1 team to beat Christine with! apply now! being back “Copersucar”, please!) So all you people who trash JV, please fire some of your artillery Emo’s way for the same reason you trash JV.
Bring in the right car does help in F1, but it is now up to the drivers to learn that they have to start driving beyond the cars limits so that they can make into the top cars. If it worked for Legends like Lauda and Prost, it can sure work for a bum like Massa.
Hoping someone chooses “Copersucar” as a team name for the Sidepodcast League,
Jordan.
April 6th, 2008 at 2:38 pmshaun said:
it’s been great joining in with the live chat.