Live Commenting: France - Qualifying

This mornings one hour practice essentially told us nothing in terms of who has pace and who’s having problems. Without wanting to pick on the guy too much, you know something’s not right when the first name on the timing sheet is Nelson Piquet Jr.

There did seem to be less off-track rallying action today, with the majority of drivers figuring out the quickest way around this place is to stick to the asphalt. The soft tyre appears to be causing headaches up and down the pitlane, with the quickest time being set on the harder of the available compounds. That’ll probably be the story of qualifying this afternoon. Who can make the soft rubber last a single flying lap?

In terms of the midfield, Lewis Hamilton will be the man to watch. McLaren have a variety of strategies they can use to help Hamilton fight back from his 10-place penalty, from fuelling him light and fighting through the traffic, to going long and bagging as many points as he can. We’ll have a better idea which way the team will go in less than two hours.

Keep an eye also on the BMW drivers. Yesterday Kubica’s running was curtailed by a misfire while today the cars look a handful, but they’ll be hoping to build on the win in Canada and may try something aggressive for tomorrows race.

Qualifying starts at 1pm in the UK (2pm local time). We’re watching ITV’s qualifying show and build up, which is available online and don’t forget Bernie’s idea of acceptable web coverage on f1.com too. Radio 5Live will also have commentary from 1pm.

As always, we’re keen to know where you’re watching and all your qually predictions.

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  1. June 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Afternoon folks!

    I’ll have Speed TV up as well, so if they mention anything ITV doesn’t, I’ll post it.

    Anyway, predictions:

    Taking into account Hamilton and Rosberg have the 10 place penalty, I am going with:

    Massa
    Raikkonen
    Kovalainen
    Kubica
    Alonso
    Vettel
    Heidfeld
    Trulli
    Webber
    Glock

  2. June 21st, 2008 at 12:13 pmlou said:

    Hey everyone, I’m back again.
    Autosport tell me that Kimi had been fined for turning up late to the drivers meeting.

  3. June 21st, 2008 at 12:15 pmLadySnowcat said:

    I think Kimi’s view is probably…

    “Am I bovvered”….

  4. June 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmlou said:

    ITV coverage has started…What is wrong with them just recently they keep using ‘epic’ music! FYI ITV it’s not needed!

  5. June 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmRich said:

    Taking into account Hamilton and Rosberg

    Where do you think these guys will be in qualifying not taking their grid positions?

    Hamilton is fast on this track - I suspect they will put a lot of fuel in for the last qualifying (they will want him to get into the final)!

    Is this a track that is heavy on tyres or did Bridgestone just get it wrong with the soft tyres?

  6. June 21st, 2008 at 12:17 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Autosport tell me that Kimi had been fined for turning up late to the drivers meeting.

    …and I thought DC missing the driver’s parade just because he was eating a bowl of soup was bad :P

  7. June 21st, 2008 at 12:17 pmlou said:

    I’ll have Speed TV up as well, so if they mention anything ITV doesn’t, I’ll post it

    you can listen to both. wow :D

  8. June 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pmChristine said:

    Ah-ha “Nevers say Nevers” says Steve Rider. Dear me, that’s such a bad pun it’s painful.

    I quite like it though :)

  9. June 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pmlou said:

    …and I thought DC missing the driver’s parade just because he was eating a bowl of soup was bad :P

    really? he did that! ahaha gotta love DC :D

  10. June 21st, 2008 at 12:19 pmMichael said:

    I think today could be good for Heikki, he deserves a bit more luck and with Lewis’s penalty he’s got a shot at the big points.

  11. June 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pmlou said:

    Kimi saying ‘it’s abit stupid’ regarding Lewis’s mistake! ahaha. Every race i like Kimi more and more! :D

  12. June 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    you can listen to both. wow

    well Speed’s commentary team is better than ITV’s. for a start, they all have a good sense of humour. Something which James and Martin certainly don’t :P

  13. June 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pmRich said:

    My Predictions (without Hamilton or Rosberg)

    1)Raikkonen

    2)Massa

    3)Kubica

    4)Alonso

    5)Kovalainen

    6)Webber

  14. June 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Hamilton is fast on this track - I suspect they will put a lot of fuel in for the last qualifying (they will want him to get into the final)!

    They won’t want too much fuel in Q3… that could put him last…10 + 10 = 20!….

  15. June 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmlou said:

    They won’t want too much fuel in Q3… that could put him last…10 + 10 = 20!….

    That would be awsome! Honda would not be last! :D

  16. June 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Is this a track that is heavy on tyres or did Bridgestone just get it wrong with the soft tyres?

    Apparently this weekend the option tyres are worth 2 tenths of a second, so for a quick laptime, they’re the way to go.

  17. June 21st, 2008 at 12:23 pmme said:

    top five prediction for qually:

    1) fernando
    2) massa
    3) kimi
    4) kubica
    5) webber

  18. June 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmLadySnowcat said:

    None of the drivers are going to strike… they’ve all said they won’t…

    Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill…

  19. June 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    £172,000 for a licence! Excuse my language, please, but p*** off! That’s ridiculous.

  20. June 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmChristine said:

    I’m gonna go with:

    Hamilton, Massa, Alonso, Raikkonen, Kubica, Heidfeld

  21. June 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmRich said:

    Ah-ha “Nevers say Nevers” says Steve Rider. Dear me, that’s such a bad pun it’s painful.

    Bad puns can still be funny - I was waiting for somebody to make it though (like Pole on Pole).

  22. June 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pmme said:

    nico / lewis final starting positions:

    nico: 20th
    lewis: 11th

  23. June 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmlou said:

    ok my quali predictions

    Kimi
    Felipe
    Fernando
    Robert (been stuggling in FP)
    Heikki
    David

  24. June 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmChristine said:

    I’m confused. Have they not paid for last year yet then? Why are they only moaning about it now?

  25. June 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmme said:

    Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill…

    biggest non-news story of the year.

  26. June 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pmme said:

    I’m confused. Have they not paid for last year yet then? Why are they only moaning about it now?

    they paid already i think. they’ve just looked at their smaller bank accounts.

  27. June 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pmlou said:

    nico / lewis final starting positions:

    nico: 20th
    lewis: 11th

    I’m gonna go with

    Lewis: 13th
    Nico: 20th

    :D

  28. June 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Lewis will also want to start on lighter fuel in order to do a lot of overtaking off the grid….

  29. June 21st, 2008 at 12:28 pmLadySnowcat said:

    I read somewhere that the licence fee had been deducted this month… hence they’ve suddenly realised…

  30. June 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    i’ll go with:

    Lewis - 12th
    Nico - 18th :)

  31. June 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pmRich said:

    Remember most of the back markers will be easy for Lewis to overtake - Fisichella will be the most difficult and DC next. Of course given DC’s karma it would be best to be as far away from him as possible on the grid.

  32. June 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pmSidepodcastFan said:

    Hi everyone

    top five prediction for qually:

    1) fernando
    2) massa
    3) kimi
    4) kubica
    5) webber

    1)Kubica
    2)Kimi
    3)Massa
    4)Alonso
    5)Coulthard without the “wave” :D

  33. June 21st, 2008 at 12:31 pmLadySnowcat said:

    I think your main concern would be not being in the pits with Lewis…

  34. June 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pmGaulty said:

    Afternoon all.

    Personally, Nico will be Anywhere between 16th-22nd. Hamilton, most likely to be 11th-15th. For my beloved BMW drivers, they seem to be stuggling, 4th and 6th for Kubica and Nick.

    And will ITV just shut up about it being the last gp at Magny Cours, the said it last year and look what happend.

  35. June 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pmRich said:

    top five prediction for qually

    Why the secrecy over your sixth prediction!

  36. June 21st, 2008 at 12:34 pmRich said:

    lewis: 11th

    So they will go for a light load to get past drivers - could be a smart move.

    Williams will fill up Rosberg for sure!

  37. June 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pmLadySnowcat said:

    The only reason for going heavy for certain is if you are out in Q2…

  38. June 21st, 2008 at 12:38 pmme said:

    And will ITV just shut up about it being the last gp at Magny Cours, the said it last year and look what happend.

    agreed. it’ll still be there next year.

  39. June 21st, 2008 at 12:38 pmRich said:

    I think your main concern would be not being in the pits with Lewis…

    Certainly will be Kimi’s main concern!

  40. June 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pmRich said:

    agreed. it’ll still be there next year.

    I thought it was going to be the streets of Paris!

  41. June 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pmlou said:

    ITV also keep going on about how your second win comes quickly after your first, they jinxed Jenson and now they are trying to jinx Kubica!

  42. June 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pmme said:

    Why the secrecy over your sixth prediction!

    sorry. erm, didn’t realise it was top 6.

    6) trulli

  43. June 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    This is how I see it:

    Lewis will look to try and get pole, which means he’ll be 11th, the best possible place he can get. We know he can make great starts, and if he does tomorrow then he’ll make up 2, 3 or maybe 4 places. Then he’ll use that light car to get himself up onto the back of the leaders and pressure them. By running light throughout the race, and maybe 3 stopping, he could be on course for a podium.

    Nico on the other hand will try to get into Q3. If not, then the team might tell him to not make Q3 on purpose so that they can fuel him heavy and make up places while everyone else is pitting. I think the best he can manage is a solid points finish.

  44. June 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmChristine said:

    And will ITV just shut up about it being the last gp at Magny Cours, the said it last year and look what happend.

    We made that very same mistake ;)

  45. June 21st, 2008 at 12:42 pmRich said:

    …and I thought DC missing the driver’s parade just because he was eating a bowl of soup was bad

    That’s a black mark for your Public Relations and not terribly professional. Wonder if it is a fineable offence?

  46. June 21st, 2008 at 12:43 pmlou said:

    Domenicalli (sp?) looking like he is hiding something about Kimi…

  47. June 21st, 2008 at 12:43 pmme said:

    I thought it was going to be the streets of Paris!

    in bernie’s dreams maybe.

  48. June 21st, 2008 at 12:44 pmLadySnowcat said:

    The interview with Stephan was yesterday I just think he was being circumspect….

  49. June 21st, 2008 at 12:45 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Wonder if it is a fineable offence?

    it is. he was fined either $3000 or $5000. he tried to appeal it, but it was rejected.

  50. June 21st, 2008 at 12:46 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Woo! 1992 Benetton! SPARKS!! :P

    WE NEED SPARKS AGAIN! :D

  51. June 21st, 2008 at 12:48 pmStuart Codling said:

    WE NEED SPARKS AGAIN!

    They’re on tour at the moment, Scott…

  52. June 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pmAlex Andronov said:

    They’re on tour at the moment, Scott…

    hahaha

  53. June 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pmRich said:

    ITV also keep going on about how your second win comes quickly after your first, they jinxed Jenson and now they are trying to jinx Kubica!

    While I think Robert is a very complete driver - I really doubt if he can get more than ONE more win this year with the BMW Sauber - it is still slightly off the speed of Ferrari and Macca! That does not exclude him from Driver’s Championship - if he finishes in virtually all races in fourth or higher. That would be my target if I was he. With only two points difference between winning and second it favours being consistent.

  54. June 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pmGaulty said:

    I thought it was going to be the streets of Paris!

    I heard Le Mans.

  55. June 21st, 2008 at 12:51 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    They’re on tour at the moment, Scott…

    Sorry, call me stupid but i didn’t get that :S

    Ooh Goodwood competition!

  56. June 21st, 2008 at 12:51 pmStuart Codling said:

    A quick weather update, because I know you love them:-

    According to FOM page 3 the wind has changed direction again (now from the east - was coming from the west this morning). Track temperaure is 46 degrees and the air temp is 27 .The humidity is static.

    There are a few more clouds than there were in FP3 this morning but it’s still pretty clear.

    I’ve uploaded some pics from FP3 but won’t be going out on-track again now – Darren left his tabard at the Chateau so I’ve given him mine.

  57. June 21st, 2008 at 12:52 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Scott…Sparks is also a band….

  58. June 21st, 2008 at 12:52 pmGaulty said:

    Sorry, call me stupid but i didn’t get that :S

    Tis a band in the 70s

  59. June 21st, 2008 at 12:53 pmme said:

    I’ve uploaded some pics from FP3 but won’t be going out on-track again now – Darren left his tabard at the Chateau so I’ve given him mine.

    you are a true gent :)

  60. June 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmLadySnowcat said:

    I was at Adelaide last year.. great fun…

  61. June 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmlou said:

    No mention of Jenson AT ALL! :’(

  62. June 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmStuart Codling said:

    Sorry, call me stupid but i didn’t get that :S

    A silly pop reference - sorry.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparks…

    I left a comment about your Piquet piece on the other blog but I think it went into moderation.

  63. June 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Scott…Sparks is also a band….

    ah right, i get it now.

  64. June 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pmme said:

    Sorry, call me stupid but i didn’t get that

    tis okay, have just had to explain the legend that is ron mael to christine too.

  65. June 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pmCraig said:

    Darren left his tabard at the Chateau

    Schoolboy error!

  66. June 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pmChristine said:

    No mention of Jenson AT ALL! :’(

    Not much to say really, is there?

  67. June 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pmAlex Andronov said:

    So could Lewis and Alonso go for 4 stoppers?

  68. June 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Poor Bourdais, he’s the only frenchman in the field :(

  69. June 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pmMichael said:

    New Qualifying Battle graphic is quite useful actually.

  70. June 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pmme said:

    so, who’s gonna be out in q1 today? any big names?

  71. June 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Cool, new qualifying battle data on the screen

  72. June 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pmme said:

    So could Lewis and Alonso go for 4 stoppers?

    that’s my guess yeah. brawn might try it with button too.

  73. June 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pmlou said:

    Not much to say really, is there?

    well…no i suppose not… :( they could have mentioned something…Acknowledge his exsistance :)

  74. June 21st, 2008 at 1:00 pmScott in Italy said:

    I thought it was going to be the streets of Paris!

    Imagine a chicane through and around the arc de Triumphe. bring it on….

    love this live stream feed. think i might watch the race with it tomorrow just so I know what is going on….

  75. June 21st, 2008 at 1:00 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    so, who’s gonna be out in q1 today? any big names?

    i predict:

    Both force india’s
    button/barrichello or both
    bourdais
    nakajima
    piquet

    any of those guys ;)

  76. June 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pmRocket said:

    Tips? How scary. I will reserve judgement. Well, ok.
    MAS
    ALO
    HAM
    RAI
    KUB
    KOV
    WEB
    COU
    HEI
    VET

  77. June 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pmScott in Italy said:

    Anyone predict Nelson’s quali position? I’m backing 16th…

  78. June 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pmme said:

    I left a comment about your Piquet piece on the other blog but I think it went into moderation.

    soz, i just found this one in moderation, i think the server objected to the sparks link :)

    can’t see the piquet one though?

  79. June 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Speed TV has only just started their F1 programme. Talk about leaving it late

  80. June 21st, 2008 at 1:02 pmGaulty said:

    so, who’s gonna be out in q1 today? any big names?

    If you class Piquet as big, then him

  81. June 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pmSteven Roy said:

    Hi all. Made it at last.

    I love the Paris street race rumour. They were supposedly going to include the Champs Elysees. It’s cobbled and on a reasonable incline. Bet that would be fun in the wet

  82. June 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pmRich said:

    No mention of Jenson AT ALL!

    Basically they have forgotten about him! Tried to post a pic of my dog watching a Sidepodcast video featuring Jenson on his website (Fan’s Gallery) - but it did not appear - guess they did not see it as being very funny so it never got out of moderation.

  83. June 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pmGaulty said:

    Toro Rosso going out Bourdais is 1:17.101, Vettel 1:16.303

  84. June 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Vettel is getting back to his best after a slowish start to the season… poor Bourdais…

  85. June 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pmlou said:

    Basically they have forgotten about him!

    :( stupid ITV!

  86. June 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pmRocket said:

    Lewis to drop of course.

  87. June 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Ferraris out early…

  88. June 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    both ferrari’s are out on track. bit early for them isn’t it?

  89. June 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pmScott in Italy said:

    Hi all. Made it at last.

    Good timing, Steven. Enjoy :)

  90. June 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Where’s Kimi….

  91. June 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pmStuart Codling said:

    It’s just clouded over a bit. I can actually read my screen and the track temp has gone down to 42.

  92. June 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    is it me or does the camera make the ferrari look pink?! :D

  93. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmme said:

    Ferraris out early…

    ooh, i thought they’d be fast than 1:16’s

  94. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmGaulty said:

    Massa 2 tenths quicker than Vettel, seems slow for them.

  95. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmlou said:

    It’s just clouded over a bit. I can actually read my screen and the track temp has gone down to 42.

    are you sitting in the grandstands?

  96. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Massa with a new purple s1

  97. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmScott in Italy said:

    is it me or does the camera make the ferrari look pink?! :D

    It’s their new French livery. They were also going to draw little berets on all the driver’s helmets :)

  98. June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pmryan said:

    Good Morning(or Evening)!

  99. June 21st, 2008 at 1:08 pmme said:

    It’s just clouded over a bit. I can actually read my screen and the track temp has gone down to 42.

    you following from the media centre, or does the wifi extend outside?

  100. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    hamilton with purple s1 and s2, looking good to go quickest.

  101. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmChristine said:

    For reference, pole position in 2007 was 1:15.034

  102. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmAlex Andronov said:

    I agree with Martin about those run off areas.

  103. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    and he does

  104. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmme said:

    1:15.6 from lewis. that’s more like the pace we’re looking for.

  105. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmGaulty said:

    Kova seems quick, Hamilton quicker, Massa inbetween

  106. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmStuart Codling said:

    are you sitting in the grandstands?

    Nope – in the press room, but the windows are big and we’re getting quite a few reflections.

    Looks like Massa’s the only person to get more than one lap out of his tyres – shame he made a Horlicks of the middle sector.

  107. June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmAlex Andronov said:

    That looked pretty mega from Lewis

  108. June 21st, 2008 at 1:10 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Kimi’s up to P2

  109. June 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pmme said:

    button is in trouble in 11th at the moment. aside from fif1 he’s the only guy not breaking into the 16’s.

  110. June 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pmlou said:

    Nope – in the press room, but the windows are big and we’re getting quite a few reflections.

    ah cool :D wow your like sidepodcast’s on site reporter ;)

  111. June 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pmMikeP said:

    Webber’s on a flyer

  112. June 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pmGaulty said:

    Raikkonen’s time possibly invalid, all 4 wheels off. Good decision.

  113. June 21st, 2008 at 1:12 pmlou said:

    button is in trouble in 11th at the moment. aside from fif1 he’s the only guy not breaking into the 16’s.

    He really is struggling with the honda isn’t he? :(

  114. June 21st, 2008 at 1:12 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Ooh, kimi might get his lap disallowed for having all 4 wheels just off the track.

    Alonso goes 4th

  115. June 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmRich said:

    BMW Sauber not even got their first lap set!

  116. June 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmGaulty said:

    button is in trouble in 11th at the moment. aside from fif1 he’s the only guy not breaking into the 16’s.

    You were saying… ;), still struggling though. BMW’s out.

  117. June 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmme said:

    Raikkonen’s time possibly invalid, all 4 wheels off. Good decision.

    is going out again to cover that? did ferrari get conformation from the stewards?

  118. June 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmScott in Italy said:

    Button stuggling, 13th.

  119. June 21st, 2008 at 1:14 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Kubica driving like a mad polish guy there

  120. June 21st, 2008 at 1:14 pmRocket said:

    What’s going on with BMW? Are they really in trouble? Anyone…

  121. June 21st, 2008 at 1:14 pmlou said:

    oh please let one honda get through… just one…preferably Jenson :D

  122. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Wow! 8 cars on 1′16.0! Talk about close!

  123. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmRocket said:

    Here they come.

  124. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmGaulty said:

    C’mon BMW, we are struggling. Nick in 18th? Shocker.

  125. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Heidfeld to fall out? Put him out on softs surely

  126. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmSteven Roy said:

    Ferrari are just playing safe sending Kimi out again. I don’t know if his second fastest lap would have been good enough.

  127. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmme said:

    oooh, nick heidfeld. big problems for bmw. no pace at all for nick, was he blocked somewhere?

  128. June 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Heidfeld bye bye….

  129. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmRich said:

    What’s going on with BMW? Are they really in trouble? Anyone…

    I think they might be - especially qualifying!

  130. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmScott in Italy said:

    Hondas and Force India - no surprise there
    but Heidfeld?

  131. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmlou said:

    :( What?! Jenson pulled into the wiegh bridge! :(

  132. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmGaulty said:

    Oh dear BMW Sauber.

  133. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmSteven Roy said:

    Heidfeld really struggling but only 0.4 behind Kubica

  134. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmStuart Codling said:

    He really isstruggling with the honda isn’t he?

    Yes, it’s quite a draggy car. I suppose they daren’t take too much wing off because this circuit is a fair bit trickier than it looks in the TV. Turn 1, f’rinstance, looks like a gentle curve and is suposedly easy-flat - but it’s got a funny camber and a blind-ish entry when you look at it from ground level.

    Anyone else spot Daniele Morelli (RK’s manager) struggling to stifle a smile when Heidfeld went P18?

  135. June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Massa and Kimi out again….

  136. June 21st, 2008 at 1:17 pmlou said:

    quick Nick not so quick…

  137. June 21st, 2008 at 1:17 pmme said:

    Looks like Massa’s the only person to get more than one lap out of his tyres – shame he made a Horlicks of the middle sector.

    anyone know why massa has followed kimi out too? did he do a similar thing?

  138. June 21st, 2008 at 1:17 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Hondas and Force India - no surprise there

    well, that’s my q1 predictions mostly true!

  139. June 21st, 2008 at 1:17 pmMikeP said:

    Heidfeld won’t improve at that pace

  140. June 21st, 2008 at 1:17 pmSteven Roy said:

    Heidfeld struggling badly, Didn’t Christine pick all the Germans for he fantasy racers team?

  141. June 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmMichael said:

    Some AWESOME camera angles!!!

  142. June 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmMikeP said:

    Great lap my Massa

  143. June 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmGaulty said:

    so, who’s gonna be out in q1 today? any big names?

    I know, Heidfeld! Obviously his special testing time has not worked.

    Massa quick.

  144. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmme said:

    Heidfeld struggling badly, Didn’t Christine pick all the Germans for he fantasy racers team?

    she did, and she’s jinxed them all.

    every driver but lewis on track then.

  145. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmlou said:

    everyone but lewis out on track now

  146. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Interesting James said “…where Ferrari have the advantage over mclaren and Kubica’s BMW.” So already they’re forgetting Nick. Not a good sign if he wants to keep his drive.

  147. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Kubica getting there…

  148. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmGaulty said:

    Some AWESOME camera angles!!!

    Couldn’t agree more, France magnifique

  149. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmScott in Italy said:

    Heidfeld just in time for a lap

  150. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Ah! Could Kovi get a penalty?!

  151. June 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pmStuart Codling said:

    Good lap by Kubica on the harder tyre.

  152. June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pmme said:

    Anyone else spot Daniele Morelli (RK’s manager) struggling to stifle a smile when Heidfeld went P18?

    i didn’t. is all not so happy and friendly in that team since they started getting good results then?

    i assumed it was all sweetness and light.

  153. June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pmGaulty said:

    Heidfel is almost surely out now.

  154. June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pmlou said:

    OMG Jenson is so close to Kaz’s time!! ooo please! just 10th Second!

  155. June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pmRocket said:

    Come on Nick. Last chance.

  156. June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    HAHA! Martin talks about locking your left front, and what does Nick do? It’s a curse, I tells ya!

  157. June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmScott in Italy said:

    heidfeld looking safe now 12th

  158. June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmGaulty said:

    Heidfel is almost surely out now.

    I’ll shut up now

  159. June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmChristine said:

    Heidfeld makes it through - just. A scrappy little lap, though.

  160. June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Nick just got lucky. VERY lucky indeed.

  161. June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Junior not bad….

  162. June 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmRich said:

    Didn’t Christine pick all the Germans for he fantasy racers team?

    I also picked Heidfeld! I just do not really understand it nor Honda’s slow pace! Trulli is fast though and Robert not too bad!

  163. June 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    :D My Q1 prediction is right!

  164. June 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Williams are not good at all….

  165. June 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmScott in Italy said:

    My Q1 prediction is right!

    Good job.

  166. June 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pmlou said:

    :( supporting Honda can be depressing…but if Rosberg goes 20th then they move up a position…

  167. June 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pmChristine said:

    Fastest three: Massa, Raikkonen, Trulli.

    OUT: Nakajima, Button, Barrichello, Fisichella, Sutil

  168. June 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pmme said:

    phew. that was all bit dramatic wasn’t it.

    honda must be gutted by that showing and how badly is sutil doing at the moment?

  169. June 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmMikeP said:

    Funny what a difference 2 races can make. From Sutil’s great drive in Monaco, to dead last here.

  170. June 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmSteven Roy said:

    Trulli P3. Trulliometer must be off the scale
    & Glock P6
    DC 5 places ahead of Webber
    Piquet within 0.1 of Alonso
    Kovi 7 places behind Lewis
    Rosberg and Nakajim 15th and 16th

    Bit of a mixed up session

  171. June 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Fastest three: Massa, Raikkonen, Trulli.

    When did Trulli sneak into 3rd? He’s a crafty one, that Jarno.

  172. June 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmGaulty said:

    Where did Trulli come from?

  173. June 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pmStuart Codling said:

    :( supporting Honda can be depressing…but if Rosberg goes 20th then they move up a position…

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

  174. June 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pmScott in Italy said:

    supporting Honda can be depressing

    I’ve been supporting Mark Webbber and his teams. I think that can be worse: Minardi, jag, red bull. all highly reliable ;)

  175. June 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Massa quickest
    Kubica 5th
    Webber made it
    and Trulli was 3rd

    looking good for my team!

  176. June 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmRich said:

    Admit it nobody thought the Toyota’s would be that fast - given the tragic circumstance how nice it would be for a Toyota first win tomorrow with Trulli at the wheel!

  177. June 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmScott in Italy said:

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

    Business as usual…

    sorry :)

  178. June 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmme said:

    Funny what a difference 2 races can make. From Sutil’s great drive in Monaco, to dead last here.

    last and the only man not to manage a high 1:16.

  179. June 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmMikeP said:

    all back to zero now

  180. June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pmChristine said:

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

    Tell him to say something positive - I can’t do another F1 Digest all doom and gloom for Honda :)

  181. June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pmlou said:

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

    :(

  182. June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pmSteven Roy said:

    I still think something happened to the Honda company a few years ago. They go from dominating engines to pathetic cars.. They owned Moto GP and didn’t have the sense to hang on to Valentino Rossi. Instead of raising money and trying to win they are into the hippy green thing. I think someone must have been trying chmical weapons in their headquarters.

  183. June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pmScott in Italy said:

    just realised Piquet was 6th and Alonso was 5th. impressive for Piquet. maybe he’s going to go well???

  184. June 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Admit it nobody thought the Toyota’s would be that fast - given the tragic circumstance how nice it would be for a Toyota first win tomorrow with Trulli at the wheel!

    especially what it will mean to them considering what’s recently happened, Ove passing away and all that.

  185. June 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmStuart Codling said:

    The elderly chap talking to Jean Todt is the FIA doc Gerard Saillant, by the way.

  186. June 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

    My guess he’s probably considering focusing on the Triathlon.

  187. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmlou said:

    Business as usual…

    sorry :D

    meany!

    ;)

  188. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmGaulty said:

    It’s fun being a Sauber fan, but not today. Near heart attack several times with Nick.

  189. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmMikeP said:

    come on, somebody go please

  190. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Bourdais racked up the most laps in Q1 with 11. Hamilton did the least with just 3!

  191. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmRich said:

    supporting Honda can be depressing

    I know my dog left the room with no more Jenson in the picture (tail between her legs and is sulking in a dark corner - she even ignored a dog choc biscuit)

  192. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmGaulty said:

    especially what it will mean to them considering what’s recently happened, Ove passing away and all that.

    Fitting tribute

  193. June 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmScott in Italy said:

    just realised Piquet was 6th and Alonso was 5th. impressive for Piquet. maybe he’s going to go well???

    okay they’d reordered the screen and i didn’t notice - ahead of Q2. oops.

  194. June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Chap sitting to my left writes Jenson Button’s press releases. Can you guess how he’s feeling at the moment?

    Lost for words?…

    Actually probably better than Jenson although a headline of “Jenson beats two multi race winners in qualy springs to mind”….

  195. June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Oh great, more waiting…

  196. June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmme said:

    The elderly chap talking to Jean Todt is the FIA doc Gerard Saillant, by the way.

    is that related to massa’s neck, or a “come meet the future president” kinda chat?

  197. June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pmStuart Codling said:

    Tell him to say something positive - I can’t do another F1 Digest all doom and gloom for Honda :)

    From what I gather, the last updates to the RA108 were signed off six weeks ago and it’s now full steam ahead for 2009.

  198. June 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Bourdais is first out again.

  199. June 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pmRich said:

    Minardi, jag, red bull. all highly reliable

    You do pick them don’t you!

  200. June 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pmme said:

    Actually probably better than Jenson although a headline of “Jenson beats two multi race winners in qualy springs to mind”….

    ladysnowcat you’re an angel. will use that later :)

  201. June 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pmlou said:

    I am determind to look positive… There is still the race…Nico’s penalty… oh and ITV did their first interview with Jenson since Spain/ Monaco…

  202. June 21st, 2008 at 1:32 pmJoe said:

    “We wouldn’t have been in the top 15 anyway” says Jenson. Jesus christ, I didn’t think the Hondas were THAT bad. Bad times…….

  203. June 21st, 2008 at 1:32 pmRich said:

    Business as usual…

    That’s mean, really mean!

  204. June 21st, 2008 at 1:33 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Ferrari out on softs?….

  205. June 21st, 2008 at 1:33 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    That’s mean, really mean!

    maybe…but unfortunately it’s still true.

  206. June 21st, 2008 at 1:33 pmFelipe Leite said:

    Nice Q1 for Piquet. I am believing that tomorrow he will get his first F1 points, finishing between 6th and 8th.

    I was expecting Heidfeld doing better than Kubica this weekend, but seems like I got this wrong.

  207. June 21st, 2008 at 1:33 pmGaulty said:

    I’m just thinking, the rain thats outside at the moment would really spruce up the qualifying. Pouring down.

    Bourdais at around average time.

  208. June 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmSteven Roy said:

    From what I gather, the last updates to the RA108 were signed off six weeks ago and it’s now full steam ahead for 2009.

    I really worry how bad Honda will be next season. Every time new regs appear there is a big difference between the good and bad teams. If Honda can’t keep up when we have had stable regs how are they going to cope when McLaren, Ferrari etc have new areas to explore?

  209. June 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmScott in Italy said:

    Minardi, jag, red bull. all highly reliable

    You do pick them don’t you!

    I’m an aussie. We’ve had mark webber as “the hope of our nation” for years. So I’ve been progressively brainwashed, but I’m happy about it :)

  210. June 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmme said:

    vettel finding heaps more pace over his teammate. what happened to the home crowd advantage?

  211. June 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Hamilton 2nd by 1 thousandth of a second!

  212. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmScott in Italy said:

    Webber P1. okay time to stop now…

  213. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmRocket said:

    Alonso get hamilton by 1/1000…is that right? I mean I’m correct?

  214. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmme said:

    Nice Q1 for Piquet. I am believing that tomorrow he will get his first F1 points, finishing between 6th and 8th.

    hope so too felipe, renault would love that at this track.

  215. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Interesting that the guys are all on softs…unusual for Q2…

  216. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmGaulty said:

    what happened to the home crowd advantage?

    It went when everyone started supporting Schumacher and Ferrari.

  217. June 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmRich said:

    It’s fun being a Sauber fan, but not today. Near heart attack several times with Nick.

    I am glad there is another old Sauber supporter - sometimes I feel I am the only one!

  218. June 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pmlou said:

    Bad times…….

    Nothing can sum up my feelings of disapiontment regarding Honda…They were doing well at the begining of the season…and since Canada they have been at the back! :( Why are they going backwards? :( I hope they are gonna produce a brilliant car next year! Come on Ross Brawn! :D drag Honda to the top :D

  219. June 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pmScott in Italy said:

    webber’s P1 didn’t last long

    I’m finding it a little hard to keep track of the time difference between the stream and the official timings.

  220. June 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmGaulty said:

    I am glad there is another old Sauber supporter - sometimes I feel I am the only one!

    Supported them ever since I started watching F1, though where I live, there are too many Ferrari and McLaren fans.

  221. June 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmme said:

    track 3 degrees up on the start of qually.

  222. June 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmRich said:

    vettel finding heaps more pace over his teammate. what happened to the home crowd advantage?

    LeSeb is just not making the grade - another highly touted North American racer fails at F1!

  223. June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmme said:

    does vettel have a chance of q3 here today?

  224. June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmRich said:

    Again BMW Sauber leave things late!

  225. June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmLadySnowcat said:

    When the going gets tough…

    Junior…doesn’t…

  226. June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmme said:

    LeSeb is just not making the grade - another highly touted North American racer fails at F1!

    thus far, but give him time. he’s race savvy, more so than his teammate.

  227. June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmGaulty said:

    Vettel giving it his all. Quick man in an average car.

  228. June 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Vettel is a star of the future. He’s going to be world champion. Who wants to start the backlash?

  229. June 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    I hope they are gonna produce a brilliant car next year! Come on Ross Brawn! drag Honda to the top

    if anyone can do it, ross certainly can.

  230. June 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmLadySnowcat said:

    I wonder if all but the Ferrari’s will go out…

  231. June 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmScott in Italy said:

    does vettel have a chance of q3 here today?

    I think he’ll be 11/12th. in what used to be mark webber’s position in previous years.

  232. June 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmme said:

    both ferrari’s stay put this time. lewis feeling the need to go back out.

  233. June 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmRocket said:

    I like Honda’s outfits this year.

  234. June 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmSteven Roy said:

    Watch out for Red Bull next season. Adrian Newey and a new set of rules

  235. June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmGaulty said:

    Vettel is a star of the future. He’s going to be world champion. Who wants to start the backlash?

    He will replace Heidfeld at BMW for 2009. Ferrari sublime here.

  236. June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmScott in Italy said:

    hamilton purple S1

  237. June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmme said:

    purple s1 for lewis. alonso isn’t far off of that figure.

  238. June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pmScott in Italy said:

    Then alonso equals 21.7 for S1!

  239. June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    The reason why lewis is back out is because the cut off point for the top 10 is only 3 tenths slower than his best time.

  240. June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pmScott in Italy said:

    hamilton p3

  241. June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pmlou said:

    Whoever qualifies 11th will have a nice strategy…cause they will defiantly be moving up to 10th cause of Lewis’s penalty.

  242. June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    So, rosberg will be at the back tomorrow.

  243. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmlou said:

    ooo this is exciting! :D

  244. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmme said:

    both bmw’s struggling here.

  245. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmScott in Italy said:

    Rosberg, Bourdais, Vettel, Heidfeld, Piquet are all out, right?

  246. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmGaulty said:

    Trulli nicks at top 5 spot. Vettel out. HEIDFELD OUT, Coulthard survives, Kubica survives, Piquet unlucky.

  247. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmMichael said:

    That was close! Thankfully DC pushed Piquet out.

  248. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmlou said:

    Quick Nick slower than Piquet! :(

  249. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmChristine said:

    Q2:

    Fastest three: Massa, Raikkonen and Hamilton.

    OUT: Piquet, Heidfeld, Vettel, Bourdais, Rosberg

  250. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Wow! Kubica was lucky to just make it. Can’t say the same for Nick though, unfortunately.

  251. June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmLadySnowcat said:

    A lot of guys praying for rain here…

    Including the BMWs….

  252. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmRich said:

    thus far, but give him time. he’s race savvy, more so than his teammate.

    But why so hard on PK? They have had the same number of races since Australia he has been going backwards!

  253. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmCraig said:

    Did DC keep a wheel or two on track at the last corner?

  254. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmScott in Italy said:

    DC grabs 9th. amazing - two red bulls in the top 10! and Toyotas as well! is formula 1 shifting ?!

  255. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmFelipe Leite said:

    Heidfeld out of Q3, Kubica in 10th place and Bourdais very close to Vettel. That was a strange Q2.

  256. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmLadySnowcat said:

    How heavy will Ferrari go?…

    Trulli for pole anyone?…

  257. June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmme said:

    damn shame for nick and nelson there. thought vettel was in with a chance but only 2 tenths over bourdais.

  258. June 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Massa quickest again
    Trulli 4th
    Webber 6th
    Kubica 10th

    all mine have made q3! yay! :D

  259. June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmRich said:

    It was fairly clear BMW Sauber were struggling and they are both in my Fantasy Team!

  260. June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmSteven Roy said:

    Which radio station are you speaking to today Scott?

  261. June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    lol, peugeot bipper :P

  262. June 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pmme said:

    But why so hard on PK? They have had the same number of races since Australia he has been going backwards!

    not hard on piquet. i blame renault for the way they handle rookies. piquet did have a huge ego going into the season, le seb didn’t and he’s a multi champion.

  263. June 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Which radio station are you speaking to today Scott?

    I don’t think there’s anywhere else, is there?!

  264. June 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pmlou said:

    Me..i think you may regain your lead over me in fantasy racers, I have Button, Rosberg, Kova, and Kubica…it’s not looking too good…

  265. June 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pmme said:

    Toyotas as well! is formula 1 shifting ?!

    i didn’t see that coming from the toyota’s. glock has been anonymous all weekend.

  266. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    so, both ferrari’s, mclarens, red bulls and toyota’s have made Q3 along with Alonso in the renault and Kubica’s BMW.

  267. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Could we see Alonso or Trulli on Pole? I know it’s unlikely. But won’t Ferrari go long? And Heikki is a blt slow.

  268. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmSteven Roy said:

    I have Kimi, Lewis and Rosberg so I might struggle a little.

  269. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmLadySnowcat said:

    They are all going to have to hassle for two gos at Q3…

  270. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmRich said:

    damn shame for nick and nelson

    My thoughts and sadness - at the moment I am alone since the dog has abandoned me, alone apart from Sidepodcast that is!

  271. June 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmme said:

    I don’t think there’s anywhere else, is there?!

    i think you’ve done more than enough promotion for us this week sir.

  272. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmAlex Andronov said:

    A bit slow of course not a slow bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich.

  273. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmJoe said:

    To the person saying how Honda don’t look good for next year, I know what you mean, but us Honda fans are just holding on to any hope we get. I remember reading in F1 Racing, around March, that Honda’s KERS system is “significantly better than anyone elses” I’ll even get a pic after qualy if anyone wishes.

  274. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    HAHA! I love how Allen pointed out piquet.

  275. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmRich said:

    all mine have made q3! yay

    Good choice mine haven’t, however, I have Glock in so that is good news!

  276. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmme said:

    alone apart from Sidepodcast that is!

    we’re here for ya rich.

    i’m still pitching for an alonso pole.

  277. June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pmChristine said:

    The only German I haven’t jinxed then, is Glock.

  278. June 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pmSteven Roy said:

    Someone from Honda was quoted this week saying they might not even bother with KERS because it is not compulsory

  279. June 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    HAHA! Mr Kravitz has some strategy news

  280. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmlou said:

    A bit slow of course not a slow bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich.

    erm sorry… what?

  281. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmAlex Andronov said:

    The only German I haven’t jinxed then, is Glock.

    Well he hasn’t got a hope now ;)

  282. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmStuart Codling said:

    I like Honda’s outfits this year.

    Really? I imagine that on a day like today, chafing is a big problem. There are so many artificial fabrics going on around here that the F1 paddock is surely on the brink of a static electricity apocalypse.

  283. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmme said:

    odd goings on. only glock taken to the track thus far?

  284. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmSteven Roy said:

    Unless Lewis is really light I think Massa will be on pole.

  285. June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    The only German I haven’t jinxed then, is Glock.

    careful, he might end up 10th (net 9th) because you pointed that out!

  286. June 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmChristine said:

    There are so many artificial fabrics going on around here that the F1 paddock is surely on the brink of a static electricity apocalypse.

    That sounds like a disaster movie waiting to happen!

  287. June 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Is it my imagination or did James misread the timing?…

    Lewis was only faster in sector 1… not in 2 or 3….

  288. June 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmme said:

    kovi the only driver remaining in the garage.

    he’s coming out now.

  289. June 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmAlex Andronov said:

    A bit slow of course not a slow bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich.

    erm sorry… what?

    I wrote a “b L t slow” rather than “bit slow”

    Sorry a bit random.

  290. June 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pmSteven Roy said:

    How thick is James Allen? Lewis is faster than Kovi in one and two and slower in three. The overtaking areas are in 1 and 2 so Lewis has less downforce on the car because of the penalty.

  291. June 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pmRich said:

    i’m still pitching for an alonso pole.

    I am pitching for Trulli on pole to remember Ove Andersson!

  292. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Trulli really needs some driving lessons after that.

  293. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmStuart Codling said:

    I remember reading in F1 Racing, around March, that Honda’s KERS system is “significantly better than anyone elses”

    Mike Gascoyne said on Thursday that Ferrari’s isn’t as advanced as it could be at the moment…

  294. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmGaulty said:

    Wehay Trulli, nice spin, livend things up a bit.

  295. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmlou said:

    I wrote a “b L t slow” rather than “bit slow”

    oh right.. ;) sorry

    woooo Trulli spins!

  296. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmChristine said:

    The one thing Trulli has going for him is he’s good at rescuing the car after a spin. ;)

  297. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmme said:

    trulli thinks he’s back in canada. don’t tell me the tracks falling to pieces today jarno.

  298. June 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmScott in Italy said:

    That sounds like a disaster movie waiting to happen!

    as long as thermo cam is on when it does

  299. June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmlou said:

    Mike Gascoyne said on Thursday that Ferrari’s isn’t as advanced as it could be at the moment…

    :O Thats comforting :D

  300. June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmSteven Roy said:

    Good catch Lewis

  301. June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmFelipe Leite said:

    not hard on piquet. i blame renault for the way they handle rookies. piquet did have a huge ego going into the season…

    I’ve heard a rumour that Flav’s is deliberately messing with Piquet’s season so far as a way to put pressure on him to sign a long term contract with Briatore. We all know (and I was expecting it) that this is a huge ego clash between Briatore and the Piquets, so if I were a Mythbuster, I would say that this is plausible.

    I’ve heard it from a Motorsport Aktuell journalist who happens to be brazilian and that don’t like Piquet Sr.

    What do you think about it?

  302. June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    Lewis pushing too hard there do we think?

  303. June 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pmGaulty said:

    Can Hamilton acutally drive

  304. June 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pmlou said:

    The one thing Trulli has going for him is he’s good at rescuing the car after a spin.

    The last couple of races he has had alot of practice ;)

  305. June 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pmScott in Italy said:

    nice replay for hamilton.

  306. June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmSteven Roy said:

    Mike Gascoyne said on Thursday that Ferrari’s isn’t as advanced as it could be at the moment…

    If Alonso really is going to Ferrari and they have a bad car…….

  307. June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmme said:

    I’ve heard a rumour that Flav’s is deliberately messing with Piquet’s season so far as a way to put pressure on him to sign a long term contract with Briatore.

    that’s pretty left of field thinking. might have to think about that later…

  308. June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmScott in Italy said:

    a few drivers out now for the last run…suspense :)

    love it!

  309. June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmme said:

    renault radio rocks. i wish we could have that for the whole race.

  310. June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmScott in Italy said:

    Webber, Massa and Coulthard first to begin the final runs

  311. June 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    kubica and hamilton on hard tyres?! as is alonso? surely the option is better since is apparently gives 2 tenths of a second.

    So, last chance for everyone and massa goes first.

  312. June 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmStuart Codling said:

    What do you think about it?

    Interesting theory, and not far off the truth.

    Junior certainly did something to annoy the Brazilian press contingent earlier this year.

  313. June 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmGaulty said:

    Kubica doing well for a bad day.

  314. June 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pmSteven Roy said:

    How can DC be a second ahead of Webber?

  315. June 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pmScott in Italy said:

    Webber to 6th
    Massa to 2nd

  316. June 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pmStuart Codling said:

    Honda news, just in: no specific car problems, it’s just slow.

  317. June 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pmScott in Italy said:

    Kimi purple S2..

  318. June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmScott in Italy said:

    but pits and stays 1

  319. June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmme said:

    kimi saves a whole lap of fuel there.

  320. June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmGaulty said:

    Alonso did well, 3rd is good. Hamilton would be happy with 13th I think.

  321. June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmme said:

    Honda news, just in: no specific car problems, it’s just slow.

    oh.

    umm, what are they gonna change then?

  322. June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Kimi was faster than anyone in the first two sectors when he aborted…

    He’ll pit first tomorrow of the Ferraris….

  323. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmScott Woodwiss said:

    hamilton 3rd, which means 13th on the grid.

    as for my fantasy racer team:

    massa 2nd
    trulli 5th
    kubica 7th
    webber 8th

    :)

  324. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmMichael said:

    Bring on the Trulli train. He’ll be on the 2nd row tomorrow.

  325. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmChristine said:

    Raikkonen is so smart. Knew he had pole, wasn’t worried about it, came into the pits.

  326. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmlou said:

    I correctly predicted the top three :D (given that Lewis has a penalty :D

  327. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmScott in Italy said:

    ferrari doubleshot. i can’t wait to watch the fair and unbiased coverage on tv tonight…

  328. June 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Thumbs up from the Kimster…

  329. June 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pmRich said:

    piquet did have a huge ego going into the season

    True and LeSeb did not, I was really hoping LeSeb wound conquer F1 - to stop the stereotypes between North American and European racing.

  330. June 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pmLadySnowcat said:

    As Ferrari usually pit one lap after each other Kimi saving a lap of fuel could be interesting when we look at strategy tomorrow…

  331. June 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmSteven Roy said:

    Kubica up to 7th. Better than I expected.

    On the Honda thing. I assume Ross Brawn is aggresively headhunting new technical people given that the current lot have produced two consecutive bad cars.

  332. June 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmScott in Italy said:

    Bring on the Trulli train. He’ll be on the 2nd row tomorrow.

    Of all the predictions, this is the one I like the most. Especially with Alonso in front of Trulli.

  333. June 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmChristine said:

    Hmm, so Glock did end up P10 (net 9th).

    Oops.

  334. June 21st, 2008 at 2:06 pmFelipe Leite said:

    that’s pretty left of field thinking. might have to think about that later…

    I’ll translate the article where the guy explains his theory and will email it to you later. I’m interested in knowing what an international and fair opinion would be :)

  335. June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmme said:

    so can we assume mclaren are putting lewis on a 3-stopper, but just weren’t fast enough for p1?

  336. June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmRich said:

    Kimi was faster than anyone in the first two sectors when he aborted…

    I could see from practice that Kimi had the advantage over Massa and Ferrari a big advantage over the other teams.

  337. June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Lou, just to let you know, I answered your musical question over in the Practice 3 live comments.

  338. June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmSteven Roy said:

    It looks like Lewis is not on a one stopper then. He was 0.1s down in Q2 and 0.5s down in Q3 so not a lot of fuel more thant the Ferraris.

  339. June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmAlex Andronov said:

    And Scott Woodwiss.

  340. June 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pmme said:

    I’ll translate the article where the guy explains his theory and will email it to you later.

    cheers matey. feel free to put the whole thing in the comments, even if it’s quite long.

  341. June 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pmLadySnowcat said:

    ITV are saying how wonderful Lewis is and they haven’t a clue about his fuel…

    He’s probably on fumes…

    And they mention Kimi in 2005 but Lewis isn’t Kimi…

  342. June 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pmlou said:

    Lou, just to let you know, I answered your musical question over in the Practice 3 live comments.

    ah thanks alex :D I will go check it out :D

  343. June 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pmStuart Codling said:

    I apologise for Peter’s eccentric habit of referring to this year as “Twenty-Oh-Eight”

  344. June 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pmSteven Roy said:

    Press conference on the ITV feed

  345. June 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pmRich said:

    Yet again Kovi is just nowhere near Lewis! Pressure can only get worse - you are in the best or second-best team and you are far down the grid!

  346. June 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pmme said:

    …I answered your musical question over in the Practice 3 live comments.

    stuart, apologies i can’t find your piquet comment anywhere?

    also, if darren forgets his tabbard tomorrow, you won’t hear any complaints from us ;)

  347. June 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmFelipe Leite said:

    My predictions for tomorrow:

    1 - Kimmi
    2 - Massa
    3 - Kubica

    There will be a lot of good battles involving Hamilton during the race:

    Hamilton x Heidfeld, Hamilton x Piquet (revisiting those GP2 battles) and I believe Hamilton x Alonso, but this last battle I don’t think Lewis will win.

    I’m expecting that Alonso will finish somewhere between 4th and 6th, Hamilton between 5th and 7th and Piquet between 6th and 8th along with Heidfeld. Their positions will depend on Kov and Trulli races.

    My fantasy racers team is Massa, Kubica, Heidfeld and Vettel. Not as good as I was expecting :/

  348. June 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmRich said:

    Hmm, so Glock did end up P10 (net 9th).

    Who would have thought he would be the best German driver today?

  349. June 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmlou said:

    Press Conference on ITV online.

    Thanks Christine :D

  350. June 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmJoe said:

    Someone from Honda was quoted this week saying they might not even bother with KERS because it is not compulsory

    ?!

    Isn’t KERS a key factor for 2009? What on earth are they doing?! For a team that’s so enviromentally friendly, they’re missing a big thing here.

  351. June 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmSteven Roy said:

    Lewis apologising for doing a bad job in quali

  352. June 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pmTom said:

    Alonso has the same race fuel as ferrari’s! PROOF:

    Raikkonen’s fastest time (no fuel): 1.15.133
    Massa’s fastest time (no fuel): 1.15.024
    Alonso’s fastest time (no fuel): 1.15.483

    Raikkonen’s Q3 time (with race fuel): 1.16.449
    Massa’s Q3 time (with race fuel): 1.16.490
    Alonso’s Q3 time (with race fuel): 1.16.840

    Raikkonen’s difference between fastest time and Q3 time: 1.316 seconds
    Massa’s difference between fastest time and Q3 time: 1.466 seconds
    Alonso’s difference between fastest time and Q3 time: 1.357 seconds.

    So rounding the difference to the nearest tenth as any less is pointless in comparing, Alonso should have more fuel than raikkonen but less than massa. Renault obviously capitalised on the three days of testing!

  353. June 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pmme said:

    Yet again Kovi is just nowhere near Lewis! Pressure can only get worse - you are in the best or second-best team and you are far down the grid!

    mclaren need him this weekend. they wouldn’t have fuelled him heavy again, would they?

  354. June 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pmlou said:

    Is Hamilton going to cry? aww poor thing…you would think he is the only one have ever had a 10 place penalty…

  355. June 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pmRich said:

    I want to give a thumbs-up for the “click to edit” feature which survived this commenting today. Well Done Me!

  356. June 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmSteven Roy said:

    Joe,

    The point you make was pretty much exactly the comment I left on the article. If Honda think there is nothing to gain by running KERS why would anyone else run it.

    Of course the really stupid point about KERS is that McLaren had a system up and running 6 or 7 years ago and Max banned it before they could race it.

  357. June 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmme said:

    Isn’t KERS a key factor for 2009? What on earth are they doing?! For a team that’s so enviromentally friendly, they’re missing a big thing here.

    kers is potentially a very heavy solution. to start with it may not be faster than running without it.

    reading between the lines, it’s only a matter of time before everyone will run it.

  358. June 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pmme said:

    I want to give a thumbs-up for the “click to edit” feature which survived this commenting today. Well Done Me!

    cheers rich. site holding up well this weekend. we still have the option of more database servers if needed.

    anyone experiencing problems today, just yell.

  359. June 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pmStuart Codling said:

    stuart, apologies i can’t find your piquet comment anywhere?

    Sorry, I was being disgracefully non-specific - I left the comment on Doctor Vee’s (?) site, where Scott posted it.

    Darren’s schoolboy error was caused by careless trouser-choice strategy – he left the tabard in the ones he was wearing yesterday!

    In other news, much less tukka-tukka-tukka from Kimi in the press conference today. After Thursday’s effort Bob Constanduros (who’s sitting three places to my right) was tearing his hear out as he tried to transcribe it…

  360. June 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pmAlex Andronov said:

    Why is Lewis in the press conference? Shouldn’t it be Alonso?

  361. June 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmlou said:

    Massa hurt his neck in a lift?

  362. June 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmSteven Roy said:

    Would it not make more sense for Darren to keep his tabard in his camera bag. Presumably there is not much chance of him leaving that behind.

  363. June 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pmme said:

    Sorry, I was being disgracefully non-specific - I left the comment on Doctor Vee’s (?) site, where Scott posted it.

    ohhh, haha, phew. cheers for the clarification.

  364. June 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Did you see Kimi’s small smile when his 13th to 2nd in 2005 was mentioned… Lewis did say “He’s shown he can do it”…

    But Lewis was being rather miserable…

  365. June 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pmme said:

    final qually times:

    1 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:16.449
    2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:00.720
    3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:00.923
    4 Fernando Alonso Renault 0:01.078
    5 Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:01.150
    6 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:01.174
    7 Robert Kubica BMW 0:01.267
    8 Mark Webber Red Bull 0:01.463
    9 David Coulthard Red Bull 0:01.656
    10 Timo Glock Toyota 0:01.826
    11 Nelson Piquet Renault 0:00.000
    12 Nick Heidfeld BMW 0:00.016
    13 Sebastien Vettel Toro Rosso 0:00.046
    14 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:00.275
    15 Nico Rosberg Williams 0:00.465
    16 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.473
    17 Jenson Button Honda 0:00.536
    18 Rubens Barrichello Honda 0:00.560
    19 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:01.201
    20 Adrian Sutil Force India 0:01.283
  366. June 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pmSteven Roy said:

    Stuart,

    I left this on another thread yesterday but you may have missed it.

    It looks like the work is being done by Les Amis du cicuit de Gueux.

    http://www.amis-du-circuit-de-gueux.fr/-Welcome-

    There site is written a bit in Franglais but seems to be easily understandable. It looks like they became involved with the track in 2003 but the first actual work was two years later.

    The seem to be running events at the circuit.

  367. June 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmLadySnowcat said:

    DC on reasonable fuel… allthough he hadn’t taken a happy pill either…

  368. June 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmRich said:

    Renault obviously capitalised on the three days of testing!

    Absolutely - Renault has been counter-acting rumours that they have stopped developing the 2008 car - I think this is proof.

    I wish they would make KERS mandatory for next year - but since Ferrari has not bothered much FIA will support them but not doing so!

  369. June 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmlou said:

    Would it not make more sense for Darren to keep his tabard in his camera bag. Presumably there is not much chance of him leaving that behind.

    I still can’t believe we are talking about Darren Heath here…I have been following his photography for a few years! :D

  370. June 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmSteven Roy said:

    From the press conference I think Lewis believed he was going to be fastest. Maybe he is on a light fuel load.

  371. June 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pmScott in Italy said:

    Why is Lewis in the press conference? Shouldn’t it be Alonso?

    the 10 position penalty applies to the start of the race - so technically AFTER qualifying. Hamilton did qualify 3rd - he just won’t start there.

    and Piquet will actually start top 10.

  372. June 21st, 2008 at 2:24 pmStuart Codling said:

    1.

    Would it not make more sense for Darren to keep his tabard i his camera bag. Presumably there is not much chance of him leaving that behind.

    I’ll put that to him.

    When I was covering the ALMS a few years ago I worked very closely with a delightful American photographer called Regis Lefebure. But Regis was terrible for faffing – he’d have all his gear in an enormous black coffin-shaped case which he would unpack and repack at least five times before heading off to the circuit in the morning.

  373. June 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pmme said:

    Massa hurt his neck in a lift?

    was he reaching for the penthouse button?

  374. June 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pmlou said:

    was he reaching for the penthouse button?

    ahaha lol

  375. June 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pmLadySnowcat said:

    Guys what do you think about strategy for pitting in the race…

    Ferrari nearly always pit one lap after the other… although Kimi has occasionally stretched it to two or three…

    Let’s assume they are on the standard basis… but Kimi has saved a lap of fuel… by aborting his much faster last session…

    So are they now on the same lap… if so …