Live Commenting: Britain - Free Practice 3
At the time of writing, this is what we know. Massa, Trulli, Alonso and both Toyota drivers had a scrappy Friday, all spending time out of their cars. BMW appeared to be lacking pace, but that wouldn’t be the first time on a Friday and Vettel’s outclassing his French team mate, while Kovi looked impressive in FP2.
We woke up to pouring rain, which has cleared up now. The wind has picked up considerably though, and with a wet track, the question is who will brave the tarmac to provide a dry line? If the weather stays fine it should dry up before qualifying, but today’s first session is another story.
As it’s FP3, we’re looking for yet another spot to watch the action. We know for fact the BBC will be offering commentary, Bernie has live timing online, but there won’t be anything coming from ITV’s direction until qually. More information can be found on our F1 on the Internet page.
Yell if you’re around, we can see but one small part of the circuit and anything you spot is welcomed.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:36 amSteve said:
Sat at luffield…. If anything interesting happens here i’ll let you know. Where you sat?
July 5th, 2008 at 9:43 amDom said:
Looks like it might be a bit of a quiet session this morning (for us at home). Just hope that i’m wrong.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:53 amSteve said:
I dunno, it was lively yesterday and that was in the dry!
July 5th, 2008 at 9:57 amSteveintheUK said:
Hi ‘Christine’s Mother-in-Law’
Sorry I missed you yesterday
Looks like EuroSport (Fra) via TVlizer 335 will be covering FP3, so using that for video, Radio 5Live Sports Extra for sound, Live Timing for results, SidePodCast for Live Comments, Plus Twitter for everything else.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:58 amDom said:
Live Timing has reset
July 5th, 2008 at 10:00 amSteveintheUK said:
Morning Christine and ‘me’
So where have you found to watch FP3 from? and are you able to Live Comment today?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:01 amDom said:
Righto, 5live coverage has started. The session is underway.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:03 amSteve said:
Both renaults well out of shape. Everyone is heading straight back into the pits after one lap
July 5th, 2008 at 10:04 amSteveintheUK said:
Wet track so all drivers apart from Hamilton are on Extreme Wets, Hamilton on standard wets
July 5th, 2008 at 10:04 amDom said:
Hamilton is the only one on wets, everyone else on extreme wets. Only the Ferraris not gone out yet.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:05 amSteveintheUK said:
Radio5Live says Weather will be showers on and off all weekend, Qualiy should be dry, but race WILL be wet
July 5th, 2008 at 10:07 amSteve said:
Just started raining again here
July 5th, 2008 at 10:07 amDom said:
Everyone back to the pits.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:08 amChristine said:
We are at luffield too. Just got here, slightly late. Just in time for Jenson to get a big cheer
July 5th, 2008 at 10:09 amScott in Italy said:
Morning all,
I agree that we’re not going to see too much for a while. not a single car on track…Standard installation laps, and sit around for 20 minutes and then perhaps do something later.
just noticed on Autosport talk from Damon Hill criticising people for Silverstone losing the GP.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:09 amSteveintheUK said:
10 mins in and no one has actually done a full lap yet
July 5th, 2008 at 10:11 amSteveintheUK said:
Should be a good spot if you can see the cars though all that spray
July 5th, 2008 at 10:12 amSteveintheUK said:
Trulli looks like the first to do a full lap, 1.38.4
July 5th, 2008 at 10:12 amme said:
standing water around brooklands / luffield.
plenty of cars gingerly learning the track.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:13 amme said:
sun is out now, but cold wind, don’t know how long the track will take to dry.
dark clouds surround us.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:14 amSteveintheUK said:
Alonso 2nd to do full lap in 1.37.0, that really slow compaired to yesterdays FP2 times of 1.19
July 5th, 2008 at 10:15 amDom said:
Trulli stays above Hamilton, Kimi goes fifth.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:16 amme said:
an impressive amount of action out there for a wet session.
christine getting lovely pics of rooster tails
July 5th, 2008 at 10:16 amDom said:
Sutil spins at Club
July 5th, 2008 at 10:16 amSteveintheUK said:
So far 16mins in, Alonso 1.34.6, Hamilton 1.35.17, Trulli 1.35.59 Piquet 1.36.4, Cars 20 (Sutil) spun
July 5th, 2008 at 10:18 amDom said:
Renaults at the top, everyone beating everyone.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:19 amSteveintheUK said:
Hamilton 1.32.64
Raikkonen 1.32.74
Alonso 1.32.99
Kova 1.33.05
Bourdais 1.33.22
Piquet 1.33.63
Vettel 1.34.3
Massa 1.34.45
Looks like they are starting to get a dry line
July 5th, 2008 at 10:22 amSteveintheUK said:
All drivers have done a full lap apart from Webber and DC, hope those 2 get going soon.
Button 14th in 1.34.5
July 5th, 2008 at 10:22 amDom said:
5live having a nice talk with Anthony Davdison.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:25 amSteveintheUK said:
DC finally out but still no sign of Webber. does anybody know why he is not going out yet?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:26 amDom said:
Sidepodcast shoutout! Its from Lou this time.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:27 amSteveintheUK said:
Radio5Live just gave SidePodCast a shout out, for being the 3 best podcast behind they own CFF and Hamiltons.
Sorry didn’t catchs who texted it in.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:27 amme said:
we heard it!!
thanx
July 5th, 2008 at 10:27 amScott in Italy said:
webber on track. autosport says DC had a problem after installation and they were checking both cars just to be sure
July 5th, 2008 at 10:28 amme said:
we can’t record 5live today. if anyone, anywhere happened to record that, we’d love to get a copy.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:29 amSteveintheUK said:
Bad Lou, she’s meant to be in church this morning for her school prize giving day, hope she doesn’t get court.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:30 amme said:
track appears to be much drier this end of the circuit.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:31 amSteveintheUK said:
WOW, Webber just went out and got 5th in 1.32.95, glad Webber is going well, DC finally does a full lap and goes 2nd in 1.32.1
Nakajima just spun
Massa fastest 1.31.577
July 5th, 2008 at 10:33 amme said:
shower predicted for the last 15mins.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:34 amScott in Italy said:
your prediction or the official forecast?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:35 amSteveintheUK said:
with 25 mins left to go
Massa 1.31.577
DC 1.32.119
Hamilton 1.32.64
Raikkonen 1.32.738
Webber 1.32.954
Alonso 1.32.998
Glock 1.33.037
Kova 1.33.053
Bourdais 1.33.224
Rosberg 1.33.430
Vettel 1.33.457
Heidfeld 1.33.488
Nakajima 1.33.575
Piquet 1.33.638
Fisish 1.33.728
Trulli 1.33.925
Button 1.33.973
Kubica 1.34.173
Barrichello 1.34.322
and last
Sutil 1.35.34
July 5th, 2008 at 10:35 amDom said:
Honda can’t match yesterdays pace yet. Down in 17th and 19th. Red Bull having a good time in 2nd and 5th.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:35 amme said:
kaz saying t3 and t4 still damp. rest of circuit looked good.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:37 amDom said:
Kubica goes from 19th to 12th
July 5th, 2008 at 10:39 amSteven Roy said:
Was that Jo Ramirez in the McLaren pit?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:39 amSteveintheUK said:
Maybe it will it not be on the iPlayer later on? I will have a look and let you know
July 5th, 2008 at 10:42 amme said:
get that anthony davidson a full time commentary job
loving the insight into scrubbing tyres.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:42 amSteven Roy said:
Heidfeld is flying.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:42 amSteveintheUK said:
WHO? I saw Damon Hill on the EuroSport (Fra) feed, is that who you meant, because he does look really old now.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:43 amSteveintheUK said:
Heidfeld 1.27.300 on dry tyres
July 5th, 2008 at 10:43 amSteven Roy said:
Le Seb P2??
July 5th, 2008 at 10:43 amDom said:
Nick Heidfeld does 1:27.300
July 5th, 2008 at 10:44 amSteven Roy said:
I saw Damon as well. Jo Ramirez is a little Mexican who used to be the McLaren team manager and managed to remain friendly with both Senna and Prost during all the nonsense between them. I am sure it was him.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:44 amSteveintheUK said:
Heidfeld 2nd lap on drys 1.25.332, diff time for them to all go out on drys, should be a busy last 15 mins
July 5th, 2008 at 10:45 amScott in Italy said:
Wow. Maybe it’s his weekend to impress this weekend - maybe it’s just tyres - i’m only on french commentating but there are 4 seconds gap between 1st and 2nd and 2 seconds between 2nd and 3rd
July 5th, 2008 at 10:46 amSteveintheUK said:
First laps on dry
Bourdais 1.23.950
Piquet 1.24.249
Massa 1.24.913
Alonso 1.25.187
Heldfeld 1.25.332
July 5th, 2008 at 10:46 amAlianora La Canta said:
Hello. Just come back from shopping - have I missed anything important?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:46 amScott in Italy said:
With 13 minutes to go, dry tyres are definately the way to go. Expect this to be a fast session with lots of order changes.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:46 amSteven Roy said:
Bourdais P1 - He must know Christine is there
July 5th, 2008 at 10:47 amScott said:
I don’t think it’ll be on iPlayer, as yesterday’s session wasn’t available.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:47 amScott in Italy said:
Bordais P1!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:47 amScott in Italy said:
That depends, did you buy everything?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:48 amSteven Roy said:
Nothing much has happened until the last 5 minutes when the track started drying and the fastest time dropped from a 1:31 to 1:23
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 amSteveintheUK said:
Most of the fastest times are coming via quick s1 and s3 times, is s2 still a little damp.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 amAlianora La Canta said:
Scott, I didn’t buy everything, though I have picked up the tickets so I can get to my job a week on Monday (plus some bananas, bread and a bite for lunch). Oh, and I changed round my library books - that’s very important.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 amSteven Roy said:
You can listen again on the 5 live website.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 amAlianora La Canta said:
Sutil P8
July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 amDom said:
Were into the 1:22’s
July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’m not surprised Rosberg’s out again - a 10 second deficit on the leader is the sort of embarrassment only explicable by having set the time when it was extremely wet.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 amScott in Italy said:
and now the other Seb moves to P1, before Glock takes it…
July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 amSteveintheUK said:
Radio5Live just said that you can listen to they live commentary again via they web site, so you should be able to get Lou’s shout out from there.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 amSteven Roy said:
Kubica, Hamilton and Kovi 10 s off the pace
July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 amScott in Italy said:
Webber P1. I’ll never tire of that
July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 amSteveintheUK said:
Webber goes fastest in 1.22.281, go webber go
July 5th, 2008 at 10:52 amDom said:
Both McLaren’s at the bottom, both McLarens just left the pits.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:53 amSteven Roy said:
Button P2 ?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:53 amScott in Italy said:
now I’m hungry….
nice lock up from hamilton. 7 mins to go and Webber, Button and Vettel are 1,2,3. strange… and Glock and barrichello 4 and 5.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:54 amDom said:
Button up to second
Dropped down to third now…
July 5th, 2008 at 10:54 amSteven Roy said:
Lewis and Kovi about to go P1 P2
July 5th, 2008 at 10:54 amSteveintheUK said:
Webber in 1.21.806 is still beating Hamilton in 1.22.155, but how did Button get in to 3rd 1.22.804?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:54 amScott in Italy said:
Kovi P1
July 5th, 2008 at 10:55 amScott in Italy said:
hamilton gets to P3 and then heads into another flying lap.
25.6 (pink) in S1 and 35.3 in S2
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amAlianora La Canta said:
Look out for Lewis!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amDom said:
Fastest S1 for Lewis
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amScott in Italy said:
Ham to P2 behind kovi by 0.402
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amAlianora La Canta said:
Fisi back to 9th, as Hamilton slots into 2nd due to a slow final sector.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amDom said:
Massa in 11th?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:57 amSteveintheUK said:
5 mins to go
Kova 1.21.266
Webber 1.21.806
Hamilton 1.21.858
Button 1.22.804
Vettel 1.22.822
Glock 1.22.879
Barr 1.23.091
Massa 1.23.227
Alonso 1.23.360
Raikk 1.23.520
Heidfeld 1.23.614
Trulli 1.23.891
Sutil 1.23.957
Piquet 1.24.249
Naka 1.24.984
Rosberg 1.26.149
DC 1.32.119
Dc is having a seal changes, or so said Holly on Radio5Live
July 5th, 2008 at 10:57 amAlianora La Canta said:
Why isn’t Coulthard out at this point? He’s only done 6 laps…
July 5th, 2008 at 10:57 amSteven Roy said:
Lewis faster at the start of the lap Kovi fastest at the end. Same for a couple of laps
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amScott in Italy said:
Kovi racks up another flyer but doesn’t move from p1
with 2 minutes, Piquet to P3!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amSteven Roy said:
DC’s car on jacks being repaired
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amDom said:
Lewis struggling in S3
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amSteveintheUK said:
They still don’t seem to be making up much time in S2
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amScott in Italy said:
hamilton flying S1. 25.4 (pink)
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amAlianora La Canta said:
Seal changes? That’s not a good sign. Mind you, it’ll probably be sorted by 1pm when qualifying comes rolling.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amScott in Italy said:
all drivers except Coulthard are out on track with 1:20 to go.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:59 amDom said:
Vettel goes 2nd!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:59 amAlianora La Canta said:
Vettel’s got the fastest sector 2, while Hamilton’s got the fastest sector. Looks like it’ll be a really mixed-up race if we get wet conditions (as usual).
July 5th, 2008 at 10:59 amSteven Roy said:
Anthony Davidson is talking rubbish. Lewis has hard tyres that are good on the fast bits but hopeless on the twiddly bits at the end of the lap. Kovi has softs so they are better on the twiddly stuff but not so hot on the fast bits
July 5th, 2008 at 11:00 amAlianora La Canta said:
Where did Alonso come from?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:00 amSteveintheUK said:
Webber running on the soft tyre, and put in a 1.20.988, 2nd fastest
July 5th, 2008 at 11:00 amScott in Italy said:
Alonso, Webber in P1 and P2. some drivers stil flying around though.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:01 amme said:
long stream of cars going by nose to tail. no space between any of them.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:01 amDom said:
Alonso finishes fastest in front of Webber, Kovalainen, Vettel, Hamilton and Piquet.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 amScott in Italy said:
I think we’re all done now?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 amAlianora La Canta said:
Another Safety Car practice or just a sign of how desperate for track time the teams were?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 amScott in Italy said:
was Trulli in the front?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 amAlianora La Canta said:
Scott, I think that’s it.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 amme said:
as before and as ever thanks all for commenting today.
we’re about to up sticks and head to another spot. back with a new thread shortly.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:05 amAlianora La Canta said:
You’re welcome, me. Thanks to you and Christine for chatting and watching simultaneously, and also to Christine’s Mother-In-Law for keeping the computer running back at base.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:06 amSteveintheUK said:
Final times for FP3
1 - Alonso 1.20.740
2 - Webber 1.20.988
3 - Kovalainen 1.21.266
4 - Vettel 1.21.277
5 - Hamilton 1.21.668
6 - Piquet 1.21.786
7 - Bourdais 1.22.059
8 - Glock 1.22.183
9 - Raikkonen 1.22.355
10- Barrichello 1.22.387
11- Button 1.22.440
12- Massa 1.22.461
13- Rosberg 1.22.544
14- Trulli 1.22.556
15- Heidfeld 1.22.916
16- Nakajima 1.23.028
17- Sutil 1.23.049
18- Fisichella 1.23.112
19- Kubica 1.23.282
20- Coulthard 1.32.119
OK, we know why DC was slow, but what was wrong with Kubica?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:09 amSteveintheUK said:
It’s the first leg of the Tour de France today which is just setting off so I don’t think EuroSport (Fra) will be covering the Qualifing of F1 today.
Hope the ITV Live online feed works today, did anybody have any problems with it yesterday?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:13 amSteven Roy said:
Wheels on TVU is showing qualifying.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:15 amScott in Italy said:
Qualifying (with English commentary) should be here as well:
http://stream.ra1kkonen.com/
July 5th, 2008 at 11:17 amScott in Italy said:
Can someone tell me if this feed works from outside Italy
http://www.direttaraitre.rai.it/mplive/0,,LiveTv%5E3,00.html
it might be a good streaming site, but only for Qualy and race - they never show practice. of course, it has italian commentary…
July 5th, 2008 at 11:42 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’ve just jammed the numbers for the first three practice sessions into the comparitor and its conclusions are the following:
- The Force Indias, Bourdais, Button and Piquet Jr are the most likely to be knocked out of Q1, with Nelson being the most likely of the five to escape
- Heidfeld and Nakajima will get through to Q2, but be knocked out in it
- Trulli, Kubica and Barrichello may get to Q3, but are more likely to be knocked out in Q2
- Glock’s position in Q3 is somewhat marginal, but he is more likely to be in than out
- The first three rows come out as:
Kovalainen - Webber
Hamilton - Coulthard
Raikkonen - Vettel
July 5th, 2008 at 11:42 amSteven Roy said:
I can’t imagine it will work outside of Italy. They are going to run into the same problems everyone else has. Radio 5 live said during their commentary of FP3 that they could not put snippets of their commentary into their podcasts because Bernie won’t let any of their commentary be heard outside of the UK. Utterly insane. What possible harm can 20 seconds of commentary recorded hours earlier do?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:43 amSteveintheUK said:
Sorry Scott, it pops up but then shows a comment saying the the content is for Italian’s only, question, what’s Tg2?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:45 amSteven Roy said:
It is already telling me that the content is not available outside of Italy.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:50 amScott in Italy said:
okay thanks for letting me the content doesn’t work outside Italy. I figured it would be the case but just wanted to be sure.
It’s the news. I think it stands for telegiornale - tele journal.
as an english speaker living in a non-english speaking land, i find it annoying. surely if bernie wants to keep people like me interested, he should let in an english feed. Of course, I could just learn italian, but… well… I’m too busy watching F1 to do much of that at the moment
July 5th, 2008 at 11:50 amSteveintheUK said:
I like that Webber may end up on the front row, but how did Coulthard end up on the 2nd row if he finished last in FP3? I know he was 4th in FP2 but he was only 9th in FP1. How does this number crunching thing of yours work again? or does it have some in side info on DC that we don’t? and if so Please make it share that info with us, Thanks
July 5th, 2008 at 11:55 amSteveintheUK said:
Was hoping that it was one of the F1 support races, Thanks anyway, was going to try a proxy service to see if I could watch it, but at the moment even the http://stream.ra1kkonen.com/ stream won’t let me watch in as in thinks Northampton is outside of the UK, it’s annoying as we are about as close to the middle of the UK, ie furthest from any coastline, that you can get.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:00 pmScott in Italy said:
yet I can watch this in Italy!
last race I had some issues with being able to get on though - i tried different browsers (internet explorer / firefox) and one of them got me on, but the other gave me an outside UK message, and i also tried reloading it a few times. can’t remember exactly what happened but i was having issues last time, but it resolved itself just at the start of qualy/race.
note: FP3 was not on that stream today.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:08 pmSteven Roy said:
For reasons that no-one has ever explained ITV do not stream FP3
July 8th, 2008 at 2:58 amme said:
jaysus alianora, that prediction was frighteningly accurate wasn’t it? a kovi / webber front row? wow.