Episode 69 - What a Difference a Brawn Makes
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This past weekend we went to the British GP for all three days and had an amazing time. It was action packed both on and off the track and this bumper show is packed full of our experiences there.
Intro
The show is late because the British GP was brilliant and exhausting.
Good Week / Bad Week
Good week for Teams and Coulthard (although McLaren may not see it that way), and a bad week for Dutch courts and the independents.
News and Views
We talk about David Coulthard’s decision to quit, who will replace him and what he will do now. Discussions take place regarding the Silverstone vs. Donington debate, and that’s not the last you’ll hear of it this show.
British GP
All about our weekend away, including not wanting the programme, a beautiful moment at Copse, the Batman livery, and the Pub Quiz. We also discuss the merits of Murray Walker and Anthony Davidson, name drop as much as we can, and discuss life in a tent. Oh yea, and we talk about the race as well.
Feedback
Just one email from Keith telling us that he’s looked at Go Motorsport and will be marshalling very soon.
July 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pmme said:
in case anyone has issues downloading, here’s the alternate link:
http://cdn.sidepodcast.com/weekly/episode69.mp3
also, going up to drop.io as i type
July 12th, 2008 at 1:40 pmLe BOL said:
So far - and I’m in the middle - it’s working fine.
I hear the Stig was there on Sunday - did you guys bump into him? Is it really Damon?
http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/3025/
July 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pmLe BOL said:
A-ha! Got to the Stig bit…
July 12th, 2008 at 2:30 pmLe BOL said:
Massive, massive podcast. Are you thinking of breaking into the 2-hour territory?
I hope my frequent commenting doesn’t come as a cultural shock, decided to leave RF1 blog for a while (until they change their drivers and respective fans), it was turning into Alonso fansite. Nasty.
July 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pmRich said:
Do you not think it is several drivers? Button stated his style was not that of an F1 driver, while at Silverstone Alonso stated he was an ex F1 driver.
Logically it has to be several drivers you do not just get into an F1 type car like the Santander two-seater and lap in the rain as quickly as this. So for last weekend it was probably either a Macca test driver or Damon Hill who is at least sometimes the Stig.
July 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pmDom said:
Mammoth Podcast!
RE Life behind Lewis lap footage: I saw the repeat of the program a few weeks ago and i’m sure Ant’s lap was still in there.
RE Jenson Button: You made some good points with regards to Button’s recent performance, but in his defence, his teammate worked with Ross for five years and i’m not at all surprised he is being out-performed at the moment. He’s the fourth highest payed driver by Honda after Kimi, Fernando and Lewis. He won’t be going anywhere against his own choice.
RE Anthony Davidson: He was great during 5live’s coverage last weekend. Real shame that he probably won’t make it back to F1. I would still be surprised if he gave up his racing ambitions and joined the BBC full time though.
MUST make it to Silverstone next year, no matter what. Hope you have a good and less tiresome time at goodwood. Weather is holding up, at least.
July 12th, 2008 at 4:43 pmChristine said:
We’re at goodwood now, taking it easy in the sunshine. Just seen a Ferrari go up the hill, and it’s about to come back down again.
July 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pmChristine said:
Having just released a show including talk of Henry Hope-Frost, how surreal to hear him doing a fab job on Goodwood Radio!
July 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pmChristine said:
Found Lou near the Honda garage. We’re having a Diet coke and talking her into an interview.
July 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pmLynch said:
Yeah, you made it to Goodwood!
July 12th, 2008 at 5:48 pmTom said:
I think its harsh to call hamilton the best wet weather driver of the race. He did go off when it started to rain properly, which alonso and heidfeld didn’t when they were on the same tyres. I think it came down to hamilton being in a mclaren and the strategy also, we should give more credit to mclaren than hamilton.
July 12th, 2008 at 6:42 pmChristine said:
It seems like Renault left the tyre choice to Alonso, whereas McLaren made the decision for their driver. The results are there for all to see, but it’s up to the driver to make it work, which Hamilton did.
July 12th, 2008 at 6:51 pmMichael said:
Awesome! A shout out for Holy Slicks Batman!
Don’t quite now I how managed to top score without Lewis in the team.
July 12th, 2008 at 7:18 pmme said:
yeah, just about. bit of a crazy day all round in fact
July 12th, 2008 at 7:19 pmme said:
i might need some advice, i couldn’t be doing any worse right now.
July 12th, 2008 at 7:41 pmMichael said:
Also, picked up a iPhone 3G on Friday and Sidepodcast.com looks awesome in Safari.
Any chance you guys will release an App for the iPhone / iPod Touch Store?
July 12th, 2008 at 7:57 pmScott said:
Just a quick Lime Rock update:
1. Emanuele Pirro, Audi #1
2. Patrick Long, Porsche #6
3. Lucas Luhr, Audi #2
[...]
9. Marco Andretti, Acura #26
July 12th, 2008 at 8:05 pmChristine said:
Looked into the app development, didn’t want to sign the NDA. Waiting for the official release.
July 12th, 2008 at 8:15 pmScott said:
A big crash has taken the #1 Audi - former leader - out of the race. Marco Andretti has bought the #26 Acura in under caution, handing over to Franck who’s re-emerged in 7th.
July 12th, 2008 at 8:43 pmshaun said:
Cheers, guys.Enjoyed the Silverstone talk and you did a good job with the interview; i could hardly hear the deafening raw of the classic car race in the background!.
Nice souvenir of the weekend,
Shaun
July 12th, 2008 at 8:52 pmSteven Roy said:
When they got the Stig a drive in the F1 Renault for his birthday it was actually Heikki Kovalainen in the Stig suit.
July 12th, 2008 at 8:59 pmSteven Roy said:
There was another driver in a McLaren who Hamilton lapped so it is unfair to say he only got the result he did because of the car.
July 12th, 2008 at 9:06 pmDank said:
Wonder how long it’s going to take you guys to type up the transcript of this marathon podcast?!!
(I cringed listening to my own voice btw!)
July 12th, 2008 at 9:34 pmRich said:
Rain is an equaliser, sure Mclaren may have been the best car for Silverstone and the team had a good strategy - but Lewis was spectacular and in my humble opinion his drive at the British GP has put into my top category of current drivers. He was a lot faster than his team mate, he won my a large margin and these aspects count for a lot.
July 12th, 2008 at 9:36 pmme said:
we try, glad you liked it
hehe, it was a bit mammoth.
really? damn, sorry. christine was saying earlier that she thought it was the best interview she’s done thus far. what did elaine think?
July 12th, 2008 at 9:40 pmlou said:
lol where else would I be
Just got home and I’m shattered. It was so great to meet you both and have a chat 
It really made my day 
Thanks for the interview too, I’m trusting you to make me sound ok 
Thank you so much for helping us find the way out too… if you hadn’t I have a feeling we would still be there.
We didn’t chat about me helping you with some transcripts. I totally forgot. I’m still up for helping out if you want
I’m now gonna go listen to the podcast while editting my photos
July 12th, 2008 at 10:01 pmDank said:
No need to be sorry! I just never realised I sounded so, er, posh!
Elaine is currently listening to the podcast as I type this. No doubt she’ll be along with her thoughts soon enough!
July 12th, 2008 at 10:22 pmRich said:
@ME - I was interested in your comments about Jenson. I think his reputation of being good in the wet was based on his sole GP victory which was a wet race. I am fearful about his future though. Since I only have video material to go on I may be wrong - but as a driver he seems rather smooth (like Nick). Obviously because of traction control being lifted the tyres are rather different - it seems to have effected some drivers more. It is just an idea that his woes maybe somewhat similar to Nick’s. The more aggressive drivers and those heavier on tyres appear to have the upper hand this season.
I feel sorry for Felipe - really not sure what his problems were but barrages of criticism have been launched. Also poor DC, but somehow he seems to make a lot of errors of judgement - trying too hard? While I also like Nico it is surprising that Kaz has caught him up in the points and am pleased you gave him a bit of a plug. Personally I do not think he is doing a bad job - the Williams car is not the greatest. Again a rather dismal race for Bourdais - he seemed almost better in last year’s car!
July 12th, 2008 at 10:38 pmRich said:
I think guys this is your best podcast yet - thoroughly enjoyed it - it was as if I actually went to the Brit GP as you describe/re-constructed the atmosphere so well. Well Done! Hope Goodwood was good - do you guys live close by?
July 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pmRich said:
I like ME’s idea of a running race for the GP drivers (very even competition) - if it was say over a 400m who do you think would win - my choice of winner would be Mark Webber.
July 12th, 2008 at 10:49 pmme said:
here’s an odd thing. we’re just listening to holly samos on virgin radio. how the heck can she have a saturday evening show in the middle of the f1 season?
July 12th, 2008 at 10:52 pmme said:
hehe. three women, one map
damn, forgot. we’ll mail you in the week.
July 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pmlou said:
lol I know you have always said it was massive, but it really is! lol I’m still smiling, one of the greatest days out!
ok
July 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pmme said:
maybe, but again, there was talk before tc was banned that the lack of it would suit the man’s style.
he might turn it around next race and put any fears to rest (as nick did with his qualifying last weekend), but the interview on 5live was quite telling.
i think le bol deserves credit for spotting that. at least i think it was him who brought it to our attention earlier this week.
on track kaz looks ragged by comparison, but results are results.
i’m sure he preferred the old one actually. for whatever reason, he hasn’t unlocked the secret of the new equipment. i guess it’s too far removed from his champ car machinery.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:04 pmme said:
ha, i do hope not. i prefer shorter, but more frequent shows.
feel free to comment away too. rf1pp needs more moderation!
thank you sir, very kind. we finished record at something like 2am this morning, so it was hard to get any perspective on whether or not it was good or not.
nope, not really, but we took our entire f1 / 3g / laptop setup with us. it’s all good practice
back home now.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:06 pmRich said:
I would have thought similarly - but somehow this seems not to have been the case. Even I can see that Kaz looks ragged, bit like Sato in his early days. To be honest Kubica does not look the smoothest either.
I wonder if this year’s cars are really different - so I wonder what next year’s cars will be like and who will benefit the most! The younger drivers seem to have adapted rather faster to driving the TC free cars.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:10 pmLady Laney said:
Just finished listening to my first ever podcast. Before I started listening to it I noted that it was an hour and twenty minutes long and thought I’d never get through it. Quite to the contrary, it was very entertaining - well done for holding my attention for so long!
I must also say that my first F1 experiences couldn’t have been better. Dan won tickets to testing and the Grand Prix. We got to hang out in the Renault garage during testing. We sat in a “covered” grandstand just before Copse during the race weekend - although because we were in the front row we still got drenched! The race was one of the most exciting I’ve ever seen. And we got interviewed by Christine and the mysterious “me”!
Why’d you go and say that? He’s going to be unbearable now!!
July 12th, 2008 at 11:27 pmRich said:
Does she do this show each weekend?
She keeps busy though … see
http://www.virginradio.co.uk/djs_shows/djs/samos.html
July 12th, 2008 at 11:40 pmme said:
welcome to our world ms. laney
that’s good to hear. it was our longest show ever, we’re not planning on beating that for at least another 12 months!
we do have to say a huge thank you to everyone who took time out for a chat. it was so nice to get alternate perspectives on the weekend. f1 fans are the best
July 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pmme said:
honestly have no idea when she started. she couldn’t have done it last saturday could she? she was sat in a chilly marquee until 9pm.
seems like a daft time to host a radio show, considering her day job, but no doubt she’s got it figured out.
July 13th, 2008 at 12:38 amme said:
quick bit of ted news i missed from earlier this week, this time on the future of donington:
“When we do the British Touring Car Championship at Donington Park, the radar from East Midlands Airport plays havoc with our radio cameras and radio microphone frequencies. And we’re the only broadcasters at the track.”
“Then there’s telemetry. The touring car teams don’t use telemetry and microwave links like the F1 teams do.”
“Some of Ferrari and McLaren’s encrypted radio channels are very close to air traffic control frequencies.”
“And last but not least, I don’t think half the teams would be allowed to erect their radio masts or their triple storey motorhomes in the paddock because they would reach to within 300 feet of the aircraft landing on runway 09.”
ted goes on (and on), but trust me the whole article is worth a read:
http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Ted_Kravitz&id=43306
July 13th, 2008 at 3:26 amJordan Allen said:
It seems odd that you would chose to update the Fanstany Racers scores from after the French grand prix although. That’s really late….
July 13th, 2008 at 4:28 amJulian said:
There’s a 3 minute blank bit in the podcast between 5 and 2 minutes to go
July 13th, 2008 at 10:28 amme said:
wha?? no way?
i’m not in charge of that bit, so i’ll delegate responsibility to the one who is, and let her explain.
the good news is we have a podcast coming out later this week about goodwood, so we’ll save it… just about! thanks for the heads-up.
July 13th, 2008 at 10:32 amme said:
i don’t hear that julian. anyone else have the same problem? seems okay to me.
July 13th, 2008 at 11:19 amlou said:
yeah i have the same problem
. It’s on the itunes download. It misses the last interview and a little bit after that. Sorry i didn’t tell you guys last night when i finished listening to it. I was just way to tired. 
July 13th, 2008 at 11:31 amlou said:
oh hang on….. It didn’t play on my ipod but plays on itunes now… maybe it was just my dying ipod. sorry.
July 13th, 2008 at 11:37 amChristine said:
I’ve just downloaded the file in iTunes and I can’t replicate the problem. If anyone else is having issues, please let us know.
July 13th, 2008 at 12:02 pmMattw said:
It played OK for me two
July 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pmlou said:
ok thoughts on the podcast
You didn’t get any photos of Jenson
perhaps you could get some today to make up for it 
The Honda earthdreams experience bubble thing sounds pretty good
Lol you were a little harsh on Jenson about the ‘question of motorsport’ thing. It’s only a quiz after all 
On the subject of Jenson driving in the wet. I know there is only so much you can put down to bad luck. But the little time he has had in the recent wet races have shown that he is good in the wet. In Germany he went from far back in the field to 4th in 2 or 3 laps before aquaplaning off at the first corner at about the same time as 4 others. Also to be fair, in Monaco he hit Heidfeld but after that he recovered and was doing well until Heikki hit him. Not exactly his fault…. I’m just standing up for the guy now
Personally I think he is OK in the wet, I’m not sure he is amazing in the wet, he still needs to prove that.
I’m not sure why they had all of the drivers on the back of a truck again, at other races this year they have been in separate cars….
Sounds like you had a really good time
Brilliant podcast, one of the best yet! 
You did a great job describing your experiences 
Well worth the wait 
July 13th, 2008 at 12:15 pmMichael said:
Yeh I had the same issue, but I only had one headphone in at the time, put the other one in and it was fine. So its probably just coming out of one channel?
July 13th, 2008 at 4:04 pmChristine said:
I dispatched the man to Goodwood today, because I’m still feeling under the weather.
Yesterday, the Honda went up the hill, and came down on the back of a tow-truck. I’ve just had word from our roving reporter, that the Honda went up the hill today and came down on the back of a tow-truck.
Oh. Dear.
July 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pmChristine said:
Ah-ha. I think quite possibly the last interview came out in stereo. Should be able to fix this when the man gets back.
July 13th, 2008 at 5:01 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Yesterday, the Honda went up the hill, and came down on the back of a tow-truck. I’ve just had word from our roving reporter, that the Honda went up the hill today and came down on the back of a tow-truck. {Christine - 2 comments ago}
Does the Honda have a thing about not liking heights, then?
July 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pmSteven Roy said:
I have just departed the FOS and am in the car park and found out why I didn’t spot Christine. Hope you feel better soon.
Button did a spectacular wheelspin start and broke first gear, then second, then third. He crawled up the hill in fourth and they put the car on a truck. He said they would fix it for the afternoon but they didn’t bother taking it back down the hill until well after lunch.
Why is it Ferrari only employs poseurs as mechanics. First thing this morning they had a huge crowd as did McLaren but fortunately Honda between them had no-one. The poseurs were playing up to the crowd when Red Bull started warming up their engine and the Ferrari fans in unison turned and walked away. The poseurs were crestfallen.
July 13th, 2008 at 7:07 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I’ve just started listening to this podcast. It’s nice to see it’s not in .m4a format, because for some reason, none of my media players like that format (m4as from other people don’t work either, so it must be my idiosyncratic computer).
July 13th, 2008 at 7:14 pmlou said:
That explains my problem - my ipod only plays sound out of one ear :/
July 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pmlou said:
Again?! They towed it away yesterday, just attached a rope and towed it down the hill
I couldn’t believe it! 
I found out when i got home yesterday evening that Alex broke the gear box yesterday, i think Alex did the same because, although i didn’t see it, the commentator on Goodwood radio said that he was entertaining the crowds at the bottom of the hill…
please don’t be too mean about Honda in the podcast this week
It was the RA107 after all 
July 13th, 2008 at 7:26 pmScott Woodwiss said:
hi
just an update, my mum’s taking my profile off her laptop, so i’m gonna be away for a maximum of 2 weeks now, with no internet access.
Plus there’s a whole load of other things going on right now for me, which means my life pretty much sucks big time. :/ But I won’t bore you with it.
So, I guess i’ll have to say so long for now, and I’ll try to be back ASAP, but I don’t know exactly how long the repair is going to take. Trust me, with no internet, I’m gonna miss you guys somewhat. I’ll pop in on Thursdays when I’m at my dads, since he has a laptop that works lol just to say hi and catch up. But it’s gonna be hard not being around. :/
Have fun with the Live Commenting for Hockenheim, and I’ll send a text on 5 Live to say hi to you all, that’s a promise
Byeee, see you soon, and take care everyone
July 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pmlou said:
I’m sorry you wont have the internet for abit, i know how horrible that can be
I hope your laptop gets fixed really soon, enjoy the GP!! 
speak to you soon.
July 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pmme said:
hehehe. jenson was better in the quiz today, still a cheating bugger, but vb-h was encouraging him.
July 13th, 2008 at 7:39 pmlou said:
lol are you sure he wasn’t just hvaing a laugh at silverstone
aww so vb-h was there 
lol i bet you got lots of pics of her 
where was the quiz? I had no idea it was even going on…
July 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pmme said:
umm, a only a hundred or so.
there was a honda tent near the start line. alex was there yesterday, but we missed him.
honda racing tv were also filming, so i’m sure it’ll be on their site soon.
July 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pmme said:
all i can hear is the level during the last interview is a bit weak on the left-side.
we can fix that, but are there any other problems i should be looking for?
July 13th, 2008 at 7:48 pmlou said:
there was? I don’t think i even saw it. But i think we showed the our sence of direction was pretty poor yesterday. I’m not sure we even went near the start line….
ahaha
so you remeber your battery for really important things then 
ah good
Now all i need to do is work out why Honda racing TV has stopped playing on my laptop….
July 13th, 2008 at 9:44 pmLe BOL said:
I first realized it while reading the race report on grandprix.com.
“In the end Jarno managed to scramble to seventh on the last lap, leaving Nakajima with just one point. This may not seem much but this was a significant event for it was the first time that Kazuki completely dominated Nico Rosberg.”
“Dominated” may be a strong word but I’d agree with FW - Nakajima is F1 material. He seems to be a Japanese version of Wurz.
July 14th, 2008 at 12:32 amSteveintheUK said:
As your happily married ‘me’ could you please post ALL those photo’s of VB-H on to either your Flickr account of Drop.io so us single people can see her cute little face, Thanks
Oh, and great podcast by the way.
and ‘me’ sorry you had Tinnitus, luckily I have never had that, but that may be due to the fact that I was partial deaf until I was about 6 years old, it took 2 operations and 4 years of treatment to get my hearing working, so I can fully understand how annoyed you where if Scott’s comments about real F1 fans not wearing ear plugs. I saw his comments at the time they where posted but had to ignore them so as to not take away from my enjoyment of the race.
I’m really glad that you did the post ‘Can You Hear What I Hear?‘ as people don’t seem to know just know much damage can do to your hearing when going to motor sport events, or what a pain in the head it can be to correct once your hear get damaged.
July 14th, 2008 at 12:40 amJordan Allen said:
Well, I sure hope nobody’s “loses their heads” over this one, but if your in France, Happy Bastille Day everyone…
July 14th, 2008 at 9:11 amAlianora La Canta said:
On a completely unrelated note, I’ve decided I’m keeping my Fantasy Sports line-up from last race, despite the fact that only two of the four even finished:
Raikkonen
Kubica
Trulli
Fisichella
July 14th, 2008 at 9:26 amChristine said:
Don’t worry, there will be plenty of pics going up as soon as I get a second to go through them. I was slightly taken aback by the patience he must have shown to get that many photos, but then it is V-BH so I can’t argue with that.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:30 amIan Lockwood said:
Great show once again!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:46 amIan Lockwood said:
Have to take issue on the Silverstone facilities though. Tickets are clearly advertised on all official sites as to whether you have a number seat and whether they are covered or not - so don’t think people can complain when they get there - although I take the point that the main pit straight grand stand should be covered. In comparison to many circuits I’ve been to though, Silverstone has a lot more covered seating (e.g Becketts, Woodcote, Luffield).
Silverstone General Admittance has far more viewing areas (which are generally level-ish than many circuits, where fans are often limited to set areas (sometimes tie-ing themselves to stakes to prevent slipping doen a steep bank) and not permitted to walk the entire circuit.
Silverstone in the rain is also much more pleasurable than say Spa or Hungry (Only other wet races I’ve been to). Silverstone has concrete paths running the entire perimeter of the circuit, and a lot of the banking has gravel to stand on - whilst on other circuits, once you are out of the pit straight you are on mud tracks - even to get in and out of the stands.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:56 amme said:
i’ll have to defer to your more experienced judgement here, because silverstone is the only gp venue i’ve been too.
i just felt very sorry for anyone standing up to their ankles in mud, being blown all over the place and getting soaked at the same time.
it doesn’t seem good value for money when you’re paying £140 for the privilege.
on a slightly related point. a miffed caller spoke to murray walker during his 606 show on saturday, complaining that facilities and entertainment for kids were non-existent. that’s unforgivable when the organisers heavily promote “Family Tickets” the way that they do.
i know the root of all the problems is bernie and his extortionate fees, but my overall impression of the place is that just feels unloved.
July 14th, 2008 at 12:54 pmJourneyer said:
Great podcast, guys!
Oh, “me”, you brought up Alonso staying on the inters. Many said that he kinda went that way after being faced with a similar situation in China 2006 and went for new tyres because he thought the drizzle would keep up. But the weather forecast was wrong, the track dried, and he couldn’t keep Schumi behind him (who went to take that last win of his).
This year, though, the forecasts WERE right, so Alonso was kinda… double-crossed? Heh.
July 14th, 2008 at 2:10 pmIan Lockwood said:
Not sure what that caller was expecting / where on the circuit he went??
There are baby changing facilities (not sure why you’d take a baby to a GP though). There was that big wheel by Copse, down at Stowe there was an inflatable Laser Quest thingy and a giant scalextric, the e-zones had regular competitions on stage in between races - a number of which were specifically for kids. The Parachute, helicopter, & Red Arrows displays would presumuably appeal to kids too.
July 14th, 2008 at 2:29 pmme said:
he was talking about the e-zone. apparently bungie-jumps aren’t great for kids and aside from a big wheel, he said there wasn’t much for them to do.
can’t say i was paying much attention to the attractions, nor am i in anyway qualified to comment, but i would say if you specifically sell a family ticket that says “for 2-3 children”, it seems only reasonable to try and cater for them.
of the things you’ve mentioned i guess most of them are fair weather entertainment. the arrows did their best but were constrained by the cloud and the grass surrounding the stage was sodden from sunday morning until about 6pm.
someone did respond on the show though, and suggested the guy try alton towers instead
July 14th, 2008 at 2:33 pmIan Lockwood said:
Lol - I guess the point to remember is that the main point of going is to see cars on a racetrack.
The BMW pitlane park would have been good for kids too - shame that decided to go to Manchester instead this year.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:11 pmSteven Roy said:
Just as well it did or I would have missed it too. It was however full of very happy kids. I don’t remember school trips to anything half as exciting. It is very weird though watching teams of eight year old girls having tyre changing races.
I can only hope that the other F1 teams mercilessly rip off this concept and do the same thing. I guess the only difficulty would be if Honda did one. It would be ugly to look at and nothing would work for more than 30 seconds.
One of the first things I saw when I walked into Goodwood yesterday was someone walking around in an earthdreams tracksuit. White top and those trousers. I was stunned that anyone would pay money for it. Then I saw that the Honda mechanics were wearing tracksuits so no doubt the person I saw was a mechanic on his way in.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pmme said:
pretty sure that toyota did this first, many years ago. and since then both bmw and mclaren have blatantly ripped it off.
toyota were still doing it at their fos stand at the weekend in fact.
i agree though, i wish all teams would do similar things (and more). honda had the sit-in race simulator at the weekend too.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pmSteven Roy said:
Believe me what Toyota were doing at FoS does not come anywhere near what BMW do.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pmme said:
really? i haven’t seen it, but we’re talking about the wheel-gun comp here right?
we first saw toyota do it at autosport international (in 05 maybe?). since then we’ve seen bmw do it and also mclaren were showing off an identical concept at silverstone.
i wasn’t talking about the pit-lane park in general, that’s unique and if anyone ripped that idea off, i’d be pretty annoyed personally.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pmlou said:
:O thanks mean…
they did?! I missed that too… damn my sence of direction! next year i’m gonna have to try harder to find all this stuff.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:35 pmme said:
lou, we pointed out the huge honda logo and said “that’s where jenson will be tomorrow”!
they had the ride-on lawnmower, podiums for the motorsport comp, a couple of honda road cars and the f1 simulator.
you could also hide out from the rain and
sleepsit on the comfy honda beanbags.July 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pmlou said:
you did? oh yeah… to be fair I was ever so slightly overcome and excited with the whole day… and meeting you two was very cool.
I really need to explore more next year - i must go for the 3 days… i don’t think it helped us going up the wrong side of the hill first… we should have headed straight to the f1 paddock.
now I feel very stupid that i didn’t go see it…. I’m not normally that stupid, but i was very excited
July 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pmChristine said:
Thing is, no matter how many times you run up and down that hill, you’re always going to miss something, especially if you’ve only got one day.
There’s too much to see and too much to do, and it’s all good stuff.
Like the man said on Saturday, we’ve been for three years and still have yet to take a look at the rally stage closely.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pmme said:
one day we will. honest.
July 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pmJordan Allen said:
The Team Manager admits to having no sence of direction and the head of R&D are wondering why most of of our projects are behind schedule….
I wonder if I can speed things up by say that the guns on Steven’s car need to be bore-sighted….
July 14th, 2008 at 4:16 pmSteven Roy said:
BMW let you do re-fueling. They have 20 odd computers set up to try your hand at aero-design. They have plasma screens showing CFD data. I was facinated by one that was showing air flow in the engine inlet. They call it the airhorn but basically everything from the hole above the drivers head to the inlets. They had it showing different colours for different speeds and every time a valve opens the air speeds up and then you get this weird effect where an area of high air speed ascends all the way up to the hole above the drivers head.
They also had three simulators set up so you could race your mates. They had a hole load of weird driver exercise stuff. They had two driver seats you could strap yourself into and experience the forces Heidfeld had going round the proper Nurburgring and a video screen in front of you showing the lap. They also had a steering whell but that was really just something to hang on to.
They had so much stuff it was unbelievable and nothing apart from the cars that were running was off limits. They had an exploded car like you normally see exploded diagrams except it was the full car.
I saw a little of the rally stage and those guys were not hanging around. Even the old guys were going for it. A few years ago they started with a small stage then Hannu Mikkola designed the current one which is a mile and a half but there was some talk on Sunday that they will extend it again so soon you will not be able to miss it.
I saw the Honda lawnmower painted in full earthdreams livery. Who is going to buy that?
July 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pmlou said:
Well I could hardly deny it after Saturday.
Well I think it could just be my ability to read maps… or rather not reading maps…
July 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pmSteven Roy said:
Oh and one other thing BMW had was this odd cut out thing that let you experience the seating position in an F1 car without having to climb into a cockpit. It felt very odd having your feet high than you backside. I am sure part of that was due to the thing being suitable for all sizes so it was probably a bit more laid back than reality but high noses make for very uncomfortable seating positions even for a few seconds.
July 14th, 2008 at 4:40 pmIan (Growler) said:
I think this is a genuine driving position. In the RB4 your feet are pretty much level with your chest.
July 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pmRich said:
You get the impression that BMW Sauber really do want to make an educationally interactive display with their pitlane dispay. I think designing education stuff that integrates F1 design with Green principles would suit me perfectly in terms of careers! Somehow if I sent my CV to Honda I am sure it would be ignored. I would like to comment on Earth Dream tents anyone who has done any tenting would know those bread-tin tents would not work either in a “British” or “South African” summer . I have spent a lot of time in tents with summer temps above +45 C and winter temps below -10 C —- you need two layers whether it is hot or cold and a double entrance at one end only! No wonder poor Christine got sick!
July 14th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSteven Roy said:
It is certainly very close. The biggest problem I had was when I lent against the backrest I was facing the sky but if you pull yourself up and hold an imaginary steering wheel at the right position it is clearly very odd and very uncomfortable. I thought having driven FFord in the past that I had an idea what it was like but it is nowhere close. There you feet are level with your backside but in this they are 4 or 5 inches above it.
July 14th, 2008 at 5:00 pmSteven Roy said:
And the clincher. They had VB-H all day.
July 14th, 2008 at 6:21 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The Team Manager admits to having no sence of direction and the head of R&D are wondering why most of of our projects are behind schedule…. {Jordan Allen - 8 posts ago}
Don’t worry Jordan, we’ll get there eventually. I’ve got a geography qualification if anyone wants map-reading assistance…
July 14th, 2008 at 6:26 pmLe BOL said:
DC having fun.
“I’ve been asked several times who I think should take over my seat next year.
That’s a decision for the Red Bull management, but the commonsense answer is that it should go to the quickest guy with a proven track record who is available.
That might be Fernando Alonso for instance; if the team could get him that would make sense because he has great credentials as a double world champion.”
???
How lovely, the rumours will certainly get crazier.
July 14th, 2008 at 7:23 pmSteven Roy said:
Just listened to the show. I thought it would be hard work to listen to almost an hour and a half but it flew in.
There are two companies which are licensed by the FIA to design F1 circuits. Unfortunately Silverstone are using the other one. If they had chosen Tilke they would probably still have a race.
Room service to your tent and you think you are roughing it?
It sounds like you are suggesting Jenson is thick
Would it really be a good idea to have a touch screen on a TV when you are watching it outdoors in lousy weather? Surely it would end up with fingerprints all over it.
July 14th, 2008 at 7:32 pmme said:
very glad to hear that. i think i picked the wrong episode to bitch about the length of the autosport podcast, mind you.
nope, i was suggesting jenson thinks it’s okay to cheat
actually, i was probably having a bit of a sense of humour failure that evening, do to the aforementioned battery incident. the quiz wasn’t to be taken seriously and it looks as though the plan is to make every event as close to a draw as possible. so apologies to jb for that.
a good point. in that case they shouldn’t design a UI that mimics the iPhone. possibly the may have designed their’s first, but still i had the desire to touch the screen too often and to my immense frustration it did bugger all.
additionally the quality of the screen is still poor, and like i said, the “facts” were wrong. so i’m not as enamoured by the product as most people, but i appear to be in the minority on this one.
July 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pmme said:
nice link (via IHT). a collection of photos in honour of bernard cahier:
http://www.f1-photo.com/index.cgi?Inp…&TotalSize=30
July 14th, 2008 at 8:23 pmScott said:
This is the best show you’ve done so far, in my opinion. The longer format worked very well, as it allowed for wide ranging analysis and greater depth.
With regards to the more general debate about duration, I think it partly comes down to the quality of the podcast in the first place. If a show is full of quality material throughout (as is the case with Sidepodcast), then a longer format can go down very well indeed.
Am now looking forward to a 2-hour Goodwood special.
July 14th, 2008 at 8:29 pmLadySnowcat said:
Loved this quote…
For this read….
“My replacement should be someone with my talent… a double WDC will just about fill the gap….”
July 14th, 2008 at 9:11 pmChristine said:
Hopefully, I’ve fixed the show now and uploaded the results. If you were having troubles with a gap in the last few minutes, please try again as it should be fine now.
Let us know if you have any troubles.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:22 pmSteven Roy said:
I decided to take our campaign for ear protection a bit beyond our discussions and have sent an e-mail to goodwood asking them to supply ear protection on entry to the Festival of Speed. I have posted a Word doc with my message on dropio. It may read a bit funny bu they limit you to 2000 characters including spaces so I had to chop it a bit. I pointed them to our discussion here so they may contact sidepodcast.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pmLynch said:
^
I am sure it won’t be that difficult to persuade them, they can just throw in a “free” pair when you buy the programme…
July 15th, 2008 at 12:15 amme said:
steven that’s a wonderful letter, you are a star.
is there anything else we can do to promote this? is it worth asking everyone to spend 5mins sending something similar in, or would you rather wait and see if they respond first?
July 15th, 2008 at 12:23 amSteven Roy said:
I wish I knew what would have the most effect. Hopefully they will treat it seriously. I wish we had discussed this before you two went hob-nobbing with the celebs at Silverstone. It would have good to get some of them on board or better still a team.
I figured there was more chance of Goodwood doing something like this than Silverstone. If it works hopefully we can get some kind of snowball effect.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:38 amme said:
i wonder if someone like http://www.gomotorsport.net might also be interested in this? it affects grassroots racing as much as f1.
i do think we need to be part of a campaign, rather than the ones to lead it though, just because the serious nature of this requires voices with serious clout. beyond the reach of bloggers / podcasters.
between us all we could create a campaign, a logo and some catching marketing blurb, but as you pointed out in your email, the audience we’d reach are pretty savvy already.
on the other hand, i guess it can’t hurt to try?
July 15th, 2008 at 12:47 amSteven Roy said:
In general it is not a big issue at club raing because the engines are not tuned to anything like the same level and don’t come close to making as much noise. In the 80s there used to be all sorts of cars racing at very low profile meetings at places like Ingliston which were fitted with Cosworth DFVs because there were just so many of them around. Now GP engines don’t have any life beyond F1 and grid sizes are dropping and so costs have to be reduced. One of the results of that is that engines are smaller and less powerful. The one exception to this is the various classes which run high revving motorbike engines.
It is certainly worth raising the issue with go motorsport or anyone else for that matter. We don’t have the clout to make anything happen so the more people stirring things up the more chance we have of sense prevailing.
It certainly has to be worth contacting the BRDC and the MSA. It may even be worth sending something to the FIA.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:56 amme said:
can do. we’ll write a bunch letters along similar lines to yours and send them off to as many places as we can think of.
July 15th, 2008 at 11:35 amme said:
cheers scott. am thinking two hours about the lovely vbh might be a little bit much for anybody, but we’ll see what we can do
July 15th, 2008 at 3:28 pmScott Woodwiss said:
hi everyone
turns out my mum didn’t actually take my profile off the laptop, so i’m still here.
so, what’s the hot topic atm? some people been annoying me on msn and i need a good chat with you guys to feel a bit better
July 15th, 2008 at 3:49 pmScott Woodwiss said:
…haha! i come back and the whole place is silent. nice….
just kidding
July 15th, 2008 at 4:03 pmAlianora La Canta said:
There doesn’t seem to be a lot going on at the moment…
July 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pmme said:
nope.
we’re busy, as always, because there’s a gp coming up. that means video / audio podcasts, plus a show about last weekend, plus pic uploads etc…
f1 teams are presumably making their way to germany via land, sea and air, so there’s not a lot of news either.
maybe tuesday should be declared a day of rest?
July 15th, 2008 at 4:15 pmSteven Roy said:
Hi Scott,
I thought you were still lost on the Nurburgring/Sheffield one way system. Good to see you made it back.
July 15th, 2008 at 4:21 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i told you, i never get lost on the nurburgring!
Sheffield on the other hand….
But thanks, it’s nice to be around again for a little bit.
July 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pmScott Woodwiss said:
hmm, i dunno. don’t they set off on wednesday to make it there for thursday ready to set up?
July 15th, 2008 at 4:29 pmme said:
depends. when we went to the silverstone test, trucks containing the red bull motorhome, the red bulletin offices and bernie’s gaff were all ready parked at the circuit.
i guess some things go direct from track one track to another, while others return to the factories. presumably the test teams have returned home already?
there’s always “max news”, but i’m trying to avoid that at all possible costs!
July 15th, 2008 at 4:38 pmScott Woodwiss said:
well, after having a peek on autosport.com, I found a few things:
Abu Dhabi getting it’s layout revamped and it’s not even finished?!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69166
Red Bull and Williams in Moscow:
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/69148
Lewis Hamilton vs Lear Jet:
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/69150
July 15th, 2008 at 5:58 pmSteven Roy said:
For anyone who has never visited the Festival of Speed I thought a quick rundown of my first ten minutes there would give you a quick flavour of the place and prove that it is something not to be missed.
You walk in past the Cartier Style et Luxe which contains some of the most unique cars in the world. In the distance you can hear the occasional F1 engine firing up. You walk past what looks like a normal outdoor cafe but a quick scan of the price list shows Veuve Cliquot champagne at £180 a bottle and then the public address system announces that at 11:00 am they will be firing up two dozen alcohol fueled dragsters on the cricket pitch.
That is only the first ten minutes. You really shouldn’t miss it if you ever get the chance to go.
July 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pmme said:
you don’t fancy ringing our voicemail and repeating that do you?
July 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pmSteven Roy said:
Are you going to use it in evidence against me?
July 15th, 2008 at 6:30 pmSteven Roy said:
I phoned in and left the message as requested. I just know it sounds like I am reading it but use it how you wish.
July 15th, 2008 at 6:43 pmme said:
yay, very much appreciated, thank you
July 15th, 2008 at 6:45 pmSteven Roy said:
Maybe I should contact their advertising department and see if I can get some commission.
July 15th, 2008 at 6:52 pmlou said:
A small piece of news. Sakon Yamamoto is joining the ART Grand Prix GP2 team.
link - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=35399
It really is a slow day for news as this is pretty much all I can find
July 15th, 2008 at 6:54 pmme said:
here’s one for ya… driver adjustable bodywork!
http://blogs.iht.com/tribtalk/sports/f1/?p=469
July 15th, 2008 at 6:58 pmme said:
i lied earlier, today is anything but a slow news day… where’s scott?
apparently heated helmets are all the rage too:
http://www.f1technical.net/news/9823
“Every fourth Formula 1 driver will start with the Schuberth visor in the next race at the Grand Prix of Germany”
July 15th, 2008 at 7:21 pmlou said:
lol i have never heard of these websites
thanks for the links.
I thought the FIA were against all moveable aerodynamic devices? and how are they gonna limit it to 2 movements per lap?
That makes sence. At least they will be able to see in wet races now.
July 15th, 2008 at 7:28 pmScott said:
That really is extraordinary news. I know Luca Filippi’s been struggling a little bit this season, but not nearly enough to justify replacing him with a man whose average GP2 qualifying position is 19th!
If I was a GP2 team owner, I’d rather send out a blindfolded Luca Filippi than let Yamamoto lose in one of my cars.
July 15th, 2008 at 7:31 pmme said:
god.only.knows.
hehe
July 15th, 2008 at 7:42 pmScott said:
F1technical.net is actually my favourite Formula One website. It has an excellent news feed, together with some interesting original content.
If you’re just after a quick update on the latest news, then F1complete.com is worth a visit. It’s nothing special in that it’s just another site carrying mainly GMM material, but it has a nice layout and is easy to use.
July 15th, 2008 at 7:53 pmlou said:
I have just subscribed to their feed
ah cool, i will go and check it out
Thank you.
July 15th, 2008 at 9:46 pmLe BOL said:
Flav is letting his young Japanese eagle fly. Sato on his way to becone World Series by Renault F1 demo driver?
Come to think of it: nobody can beat Tora Takagi, he was the Japanese driver that shook F1 and my world; and 1999 Arrows looked seriously surreal.
http://www.f1-photo.com/index.cgi?ImageName=Takagi_1999_Belgium_01_PHC.jpg&Input=takagi&RowSize=5&Offset=0&TotalSize=25&Lang=en&NamePage=picture&
July 15th, 2008 at 9:48 pmSteven Roy said:
The driver adjustable (by 6 degree) wing flap was proposed by the Overtaking Working Group months ago. Like most of their ideas it is idiotically stupid and will not help overtaking.
July 15th, 2008 at 10:18 pmLe BOL said:
“becoNe”? that has to be “become”. I’m inventing new verbs, it’s too damn hot where I live, I’m totally brain-dead in the summer.
You guys must one day prepare F1 Japanese drivers special episode, it’s such a rich material, not in quantity but in quality. So many memorable scenes: like Sato being unable to notice in Monaco 2004 that his engine was dying and then the track turned into Dark Side of the Moon set. Sort of. Careful with that engine, Taku.
July 15th, 2008 at 10:46 pmSteven Roy said:
I wonder if F1 Racing would be interested in our ear protection campaign. OK campaign is overstating it a little. Where is Stuart when you need him?
July 15th, 2008 at 11:05 pmlou said:
lol
July 15th, 2008 at 11:06 pmme said:
pls remind us during the off season bol. it’s a fine idea, but we have poor memories.
July 15th, 2008 at 11:11 pmSteven Roy said:
Deep breaths Lou. I found this on grandprix.com Jenson Button has signed up to compete in the Race of Champions event at Wembley stadium on December 14. Last year Button and touring car driver Andy Priaulx were knocked out by Germany’s Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel, who went on to win. The two Germans have been signed up again but there is no word yet on who else will be taking part.
July 15th, 2008 at 11:32 pmlou said:
hehe
lol
I already know, but thanks
I think it was on autosport the other day… Am already planning to go 
, it looked great last year. Wembley is pretty close to where i live, it’s about 40 mins away by train. 
and the ticket prices are good too. 
July 15th, 2008 at 11:35 pmLe BOL said:
Indeed, we haven’t heard from him for a while, no behind the scenes funny stories.
I would like to volunteer myself to distribute those plugs in motorsport events around the world… dressed as a giant rabbit. Not the scary one from the Donnie Darko movie, but a friendly rabbit.
We could start a charity on the internet, ask for donations and make it a joint sidepodcast/f1 racing campaign. Just an idea.
Great idea, Steven.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:38 amSteveintheUK said:
When it comes to VBH you have to be really, really patience to get any photo’s of her , yet alone to actually meet her. I have been a fan of hers since she first started with MaxPower magazine. Which means I have been waiting 15 years to get a photo of her, and have yet to succeed. So many congrats to ‘Mr Christine’ for having enough patience’s to get her on camera, oh and for actually going to an event on the day that she is actually there, as I always seem to go to events on the only day she is either not there of is off filming a segment somewhere else.
Anyway Christine, hope your feeling better now, and if you ever get a spare ticket to an event that VBH will be at Please send it my way.
I’m also really sorry that I’m not going to be around for the practise sessions this Friday as I’m going to the big Land Rover show at Billing AquaDrome near where I live in Northampton, but I should be online Sat and Sun.
and Yes Lou, if your reading this, I would really appreciate it if your could dm me some updates via Twitter Please, Thanks
OK, I’m off to check if the VHB photos are up on Drop.io yet
July 16th, 2008 at 3:39 amJordan Allen said:
Well, to keep this subject going,who is everyone’s favourite Japanese driver. / Kamikaze pilot… With all that were out there, and the outstanding circuit of Suzuka, a decent one in Fuji and less-than-stellar Ti circuit you would think Japan would come up with better drivers than the likes of Takoe Inoue, Shinji Nakano, and Ukyo Katayama. I know I am being mean here……But there were other Japanese Drivers worse than this lot. That least this group completed a race….
July 16th, 2008 at 9:56 amlou said:
hehe
Consider it done! 
July 16th, 2008 at 10:48 amSteven Roy said:
I think Toyota’s young Japanese test driver will pick up fans for enthusiasm and exuberance even if he turns out to be an average driver. Young Kobayahi-san gave that Toyota a lot of abuse at Goodwood. He kept the wheels spinning for ridiculous distances and probably got the best reaction other than Lewis.
Just as well he is not a Honda driver or no-one would have noticed him. I think he spun his wheels for longer than the Honda ran at all.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:01 amStuart Codling said:
Hello!
Sorry, I’ve been doing boring DIY jobs this week, and the last two days have been a race against time to get some sanding done. I ended up wearing earplugs, actually – after a morning with the orbital sander my ears were starting to ring.
Having some sort of ear protection awareness campaign would be a good idea and I’ll throw it into the pot. Too many people think that you’re somehow wimping out if you use them – including people who ought to know better (as ‘Me’ pointed out, some photographers at the pre-Silverstone test weren’t wearing them).
July 16th, 2008 at 11:04 amme said:
on that subject. i tried to catch the marshals at goodwood out, and grab some pics of them minus their plugs, but to everyone’s credit they were all wearing them.
admittedly some were sticking so far out of their ears they couldn’t have been doing the blindest bit of good, but at least that’s one better than the silverstone photographers.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:45 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’ve been doing boring DIY jobs this week, and the last two days have been a race against time to get some sanding done. {Stuart Codling - 2 comments ago}
Hope you won that race
Also, thanks for the positive words on the ear protection thing.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:02 pmSteven Roy said:
That’s good news since you can hit a far bigger audience than sidepodcast.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:02 pmLe BOL said:
My quote of the day: Liuzzi on his current position.
“Force India are giving me the opportunity to run plenty of miles and they’ve given me a lot of credibility. We’ve developed several aerodynamic and mechanical solutions, especially Giancarlo and I, who are more experienced than Adrian.”
“Based on the agreement we have, anything can happen and I have a good chance of becoming a regular race driver.”
July 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pmSteven Roy said:
I am sure Sutil will be thrilled with that comment.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pmme said:
good find le bol, although i originally misread the quote as:
“we’ve developed several aerodynamic and mechanical solutions, especially giancarlo…”
a mechanical giancarlo would make the team proper championship contenders.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pmLe BOL said:
On the subject of ear protection: it inspired me to create a poster.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/plugstx
I also put some stuff on my blog, although it’s more arty than F1 these days; still, it might help raise the awareness.
July 16th, 2008 at 3:01 pmLe BOL said:
A clockwork orange? I bet he’s still angry with Flav because last year Fisi was saying he’d like to drive for the rest of his career for Renault, they have total chaos in driver department; the Piquet mystery combined with Alonso’s desire to crash out rather than score a couple of points will cost them dearly in the constructors’ champ this year. I can see them having a new line-up in 2009.
July 16th, 2008 at 3:23 pmIan Lockwood said:
I liked this quote from Renaults Steve Nielsen last week…
“We don’t aim for fourth but at the moment with our level of competitiveness that’s our target”
Surely you can’t have a target without aiming for it??
July 16th, 2008 at 3:37 pmStuart Codling said:
Nothing wrong with your eyes – it’s a dangling modifier (see also: “Getting off the bus at Epping Forest, the trees looked lovely”).
Indeed. Prime doublespeak.
Speaking of priming, the paintbrush beckons…
July 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I am sure Sutil will be thrilled with that comment. {Steven Roy - 5 comments ago}
Either Tonio thinks he’s replacing Adrian at the end of the year or that was a PR blunder. Probably the latter.
Surely you can’t have a target without aiming for it?? {Ian Lockwood - previous comment}
You can - as long as you don’t mind missing it 100% of the time…
July 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pmLe BOL said:
I’m a bit of a Liuzzi fan so I think he’s replacing Adrian at the end of 2008.
And yet another quote from the quote that was translated this way.
Willi Weber told Sport Bild: “Rosberg will replace Heikki Kovalainen, who will change back to Renault.” (source: F1-Live, who else could publish it?)
Mein Gott! Ist das absolut schade?
Last year I jokingly wrote “kovalainen to mclaren” and it came true, earlier this year I wrote “kovalainen back to renault” so it must come true.
And Alonso rumours are cool. Santander/Ferrari link or Repsol/Honda (supposedly, Repsol would drop MotoGP sponsorship). My bet is on Ferrari.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:24 pmSteveintheUK said:
Thanks Lou, Hope it’s as good a race weekend as the British GP.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pmme said:
after last weekends performance?
July 16th, 2008 at 7:39 pmGaulty said:
I look like a right muppet betting heavily on Webber.
Just a quickie of a question, finally got round to joining Fantasy Racers, so how do I join Sidepodcast league thingy?
July 16th, 2008 at 7:41 pmme said:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/02/25/its-only-make-believe/
July 16th, 2008 at 7:50 pmLe BOL said:
Ferrari will win in Hockenheim, it’s guaranteed. It’s just that this year the luck changes from race to race, 1st Lewis was sinking now he’s on top of the world; Ferrari were winning everything in France and now they are being massively criticized. BMW were going to beat Ferrari and McLaren after Canada and now they have rather modest ambitions for the rest of the season.
Montezemolo smells that Alonso is interested in emulating Schu and Alonso smells that Ferrari is the place to be if you want to enjoy Nº1 status and have special treatment from the FIA. I know it sounds dull (the FIA remark) but that seems to be the case. Besides, Saint Luca can afford to pay Alonso’s salary and will gladly do so, while other teams will not be happy about it. Not sure about Toyota or Honda.
July 16th, 2008 at 8:00 pmme said:
weekend weather is said to be some light rain and maybe showers. sounds like macca territory to me.
with max insisting on drastic financial cutbacks, teams may find themselves with more spare change than they had previous accounted for.
July 16th, 2008 at 8:00 pmGaulty said:
Cheers me
July 16th, 2008 at 8:03 pmme said:
remember, your target is christine in 116th
July 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pmLe BOL said:
Could be. But still I’m betting on Ferrari. Making the same mistake twice - that’s unlikely.
It’s possible too, we won’t know for sure until Monza. I’m talking hypothetically. I’d be pleased to see Alonso move to Ferrari. That would create more interest, maybe direct fight with Hamilton on track? Why not?
Anyway, the championship this year is quite amusing, reminds me of 2003.
July 16th, 2008 at 8:50 pmme said:
couldn’t agree more. but brawn wouldn’t have made those mistakes and todt wouldn’t have tolerated them. will they even be competitive next year?
July 16th, 2008 at 9:19 pmLe BOL said:
How much are they paying Schumi to develop their cars? I think they’ll put him in 2009 car ASAP to test it and get his feedback. I think after more than 50 years of racing in F1 Ferrari have enormous potential and knowledge/know-how to succeed in 2009. Although a repeat of 2005 is possible.
Nurburgring 1999 - lost wheel and lost championship, those two were in charge. I think Salo had some kind of technical issue (brakes?) but Edmund finished 7th on that occasion (and just out of the points because in those days 6th was the last points-scoring position but you all know that and it’s a bit silly to mention it). Total Ferrari defeat. But I mostly remember that race for Badoer’s Minardi breaking down while running in 4th and him crying worse than Hakkinen in Monza that same year.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:42 pmBecken said:
Alonso going to Ferrari brings to my mind Prost going to Maranello in the late of 1990. We have the same novel under the F1 news, and the same expectation. I hope he achieve a better results than Alain.
Coincidently, his Nemesis is in Mclaren too…
“..Making the same mistake twice - that’s unlikely…”
IMHO, Monaco and Silverstone was the same kind of mistakes! An incapability to deal with the unpredictability of the weather conditions…
Something that I´m aware about Mclaren is their top speeds on straight line, something that could be very worth at Hockenheim. The silver guys has bit the Ferraris in Canada in this area and in Hockenheim, even in the dry, McLaren could be very competitive.
But If it rains there… ciao!
July 16th, 2008 at 10:05 pmRich said:
That summarizes my view completely about Renault and Kovi. Mercedes have been bleating about having a german driver so we have Nico (fast but poor at scoring points), Nick (was previously passed over), DeSeb (also fast but poor at finishing a race), Timo (not done enough to impress Macca) and Adrian Sutil (Hamilton’s mate). Although I would choose Nick from that bunch my guess would be Macca would again go for Nico. Personally I think Mercedes should look to employing the services of a neighbouring Pole that might just be the fastest guy on the racetrack. Nick and Nico at BMW would make a good pair.
I think Kovy could well end up back at Renault, especially if Alonso ditches the team.
Alonso at Ferrari would certainly challenge Lewis. Massa after a run of impressive results really damaged his credibility at wet Silverstone!
July 16th, 2008 at 10:20 pmRich said:
Hockenheim is going to be a show down between Macca and Ferrari - My guess for the grid is Kimi, Lewis and then Felipe - sadly Kovy will be lurking around sixth place. Robert will be fourth and Alonso fifth. The driver most likely to gate crash this order will be Mark !
July 16th, 2008 at 11:07 pmLe BOL said:
I remember Aussie driver Mark Webber (seen looking visibly grumpy today) was labelled as archetype Williams driver and compared to Alan Jones before moving to Frank’s team in 2005, but the result was pretty sad. Mark in the end said something like “I’ll trust my manager from now on, he advised me against moving to Williams and he was right” (Mark also mentioned something about the freedom to express his thoughts he was denied while driving for Frank) so Mark was unable to leave his mark on Williams history or mark as many points as he would’ve liked. But his exit from Monaco 2006 GP was very stylish, the way he threw that steering wheel. A classic. And his engineer was screaming on the team radio: “Fisichella! Get him out of the way!” and Mark also screamed something and then his Cosworth engine (I think so) decided to call it a day.
Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is - you never know how things will turn out.
Yeah, if I were in charge of grandprix.com I’d dub the race report “Lewis’ wet dream” or “Rider on the Storm”. And for Massa’s day I’d choose Kylie’s “Spinning around” title.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:19 pmLe BOL said:
Norbert “the Viking” Haug surely wants a German driver so Nico would fit. But then again the question of being Nº2 to LH with Rosberg’s ambitions? I would promote Bruno Spengler from DTM, since Paffet (two British drivers? no way! marketing disaster!) is likely to emulate Davidson’s path. Spengler races under Canadian colours but speaks German.
Check this out: I have this game on my mobile called “vodafone mclaren racing” from 2007, it features LH and ALO as team drivers and 3 tracks - Spain, Germany and UK. How politically correct! Spain for ALO fans, Germany for Mercedes and UK for LH and McLaren. I seem to notice that when I choose Hamilton option I always win the game easily while with Alonso option I have to try harder, coincidence? Only joking. Must be my imagination.
Gute nacht.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:46 pmBecken said:
“…I seem to notice that when I choose Hamilton option I always win the game easily while with Alonso option I have to try harder…”
Very funny…
Perhaps the little guy inside your phone who win easily could be using another guy´s data. Why he doesn´t win with his own data could remain a big mystery…
Anyway you can choose another mobile operator to relief of the guy who lose, maybe TIM…
July 16th, 2008 at 11:48 pmRich said:
I am sure it is coincidence but it makes for a very funny story. The PC was on the unsubtle side!
Rosberg’s old man was not keen on the last Macca offer! Second fiddle to Lewis would be hard to swallow and this is the only aspect that gives Kovy some hope of retaining his seat. I am really not sure it is the right place for likable Finn though.
July 17th, 2008 at 7:57 amStuart Codling said:
That was one of the ones I was playing with for our Silverstone report before settling for a more family-friendly option…
July 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pmAlianora La Canta said:
That was one of the ones I was playing with for our Silverstone report before settling for a more family-friendly option… {Stuart Codling - previous comment}
Thank goodness you picked something else…
July 17th, 2008 at 4:36 pmLe BOL said:
Reminded me of that Beatles song from “let it be” - “i’ve got a feeling”. if somebody did go for that title a big scandal would be on the