Live Commenting: Germany - Free Practice 2
Formula One, free practice two. The second of two ninety minutes sessions gets going at exactly 2pm in Germany (or 1pm if you’re in the UK).
After a pretty damp start to this morning’s early session, we weren’t expecting a lot of track action, but the teams certainly delivered. With most drivers putting in more than 20 laps, it was non stop action all the way, especially when Kubica threw it into the barriers unprompted.
The McLaren’s looked strong, while Vettel appears to be in his element at his home track. BMW have work to do this afternoon though. Before his off, Robert had managed just 8 laps of running so they’re well and truly on the back foot at the moment. Ferrari managed to look convincing in the wet too, which is no mean feat given the results of their last outing in such conditions.
In terms of the weather, the rain looks like it might hold off for the remainder of this afternoon’s running. It should be dry tyres all round, and hopefully will give us a better indication of who made improvements during the last test and who fell behind.
It’ll be live timing plus a little bit of ITV video streaming for us this afternoon.
Please say “Hi” if you’re following the action, and let us know what you can see / hear during FP2.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pmme said:
drop.io link for y’all:
July 18th, 2008 at 12:42 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I may get called downstairs later on - usually I’d make sandwiches and eat them before the session starts, but there’s no bread suitable for sandwich-making available and I can’t cook anything else, so I’ll have to wait for Mum…
By the way, when did Sidepodcast’s drop.io get upgraded to 15GB? It was 5GB last I saw.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:45 pmme said:
me neither, am waiting for christine to arrive home from work and make crumpets
July 18th, 2008 at 12:48 pmScott in Italy said:
Was this just so you could guarantee yourself the first post?
Apart from Kubica, is anyone really that far out of position in the first practice session? Nakajima is in 9th, which is good for Williams/Toyota (Rosberg is 6th, but we kind of expect that from him. Webber in 14th is a little down on where I’d expect to see the Red Bulls - usually 8th-12th. What I saw of today was an interesting session, but I didn’t see any surprises? Thoughts?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:48 pmme said:
oh yeah, was gonna mention that…
drop.io offered us another space upgrade, but it didn’t work correctly, so they gave us yet another one which did work and also happened to be huge
we might love drop.io a bit too much right now!
July 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pmScott in Italy said:
Am I the only one that makes my own lunch?
my mum would be so proud of me…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pmme said:
no, but now that you mention it i have a solution to all of the guardian’s problems
July 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pmlou said:
I have settled down in front of the laptop with a glass of coke and some sushi
July 18th, 2008 at 12:52 pmlou said:
we have video
July 18th, 2008 at 12:52 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I’ve been trying to learn how to cook for the last five years, and I’m still no good…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:53 pmSteven Roy said:
Someone has told the Hockenheim crowd that Schumacher has retired haven’t they?
July 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Given some of the people I saw, they don’t know Christijan Albers doesn’t race in F1 any more either…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:56 pmme said:
yeah, apparently 5 german drivers aren’t enough for some people.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pmScott said:
I’ve never been convinced that cooking is particularly efficient use of my time. I decided to make myself a proper meal the other day (chicken, potatoes, vegetables, etc.). Must have taken well over an hour, yet it was eaten in under 10 minutes.
July 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pmScott in Italy said:
If you’re ever in Northern Italy, drop by and I’ll teach you how to roast a rabbit. More “local” people would teach you how to catch it first, but I really don’t want to make too much of an effort
July 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Hooray! ITV works properly!
July 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The webcam’s showing some disgusting-looking clouds…
July 18th, 2008 at 12:59 pmme said:
nice one. let’s hope it’s as busy as before.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmScott in Italy said:
Is anyone reading this not in the “lunch” time window because i suspect we’ll be making them hungry.
Eat slower
July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I even had a friend try to teach me how to cook at university, and the only thing that stuck long-term was how to cut vegetables safely. But I’m not allowed to do that at home unless someone’s supervising
July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Toro Rossos first out
July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmme said:
x2 str’s out on track.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pmme said:
i think nick’s helmet design is a secret kind of camouflage.
“that car’s driving itself!”
July 18th, 2008 at 1:03 pmlou said:
hehe
July 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pmme said:
is it me, or does piquet look a little more comfortable in the car this weekend. smoother than alonso on that lap in fact.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pmme said:
oh. schumi is there.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pmSteven Roy said:
I read on a couple of sites this week that Piquet was looking forward to the next few tracks because he knew them.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Alonso had a little wobble, as Hamilton warms up his tyres.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:07 pmJoe in Florida said:
Who is getting the STR seat next year?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:07 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Vettel’s going really quickly, but Hamilton’s about to spoil his party…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:07 pmme said:
he’s not particularly quick. but at least he’s not making driving look like a miserable experience this week.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:08 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Who is getting the STR seat next year? {Joe in Canada - 2 comments ago}
I reckon Sebastien Buemi, a lot of other people think Bruno Senna, but in reality nobody (except perhaps STR senior management) knows.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:09 pmSteven Roy said:
My money is on Senna.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:09 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Kovalainen tops the timesheets for a moment, before Hamilton goes nearly a second quicker.
Meanwhile, there’s a replay of Hamilton taking a slingshotty approach to passing Vettel.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:10 pmAlianora La Canta said:
What happened to Fisi in sector 2?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:10 pmlou said:
Kimi not made an appearance yet. perhaps he is still having lunch.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmSteven Roy said:
Hamilton lost over 2 seconds because Vettel was parked on an apex. Lewis was purple S1 and S2 and ended that lap in P13.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Rubens does a nice elegant spin there.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmlou said:
argh my feed is jumpy again…. it always does this at the start of a session
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmme said:
whoops rubens spinning around. didn’t catch the corner though.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmAnthony said:
Ye Gods!
just got back in from lunch, switched on live timing and see lewis is a full second faster than Kovi!!!
July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pmme said:
problems for kaz? he’s been out twice and both times headed back into the pits.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pmSteven Roy said:
Kimi out
July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pmRocket said:
That was a very quick stop from Webber. Did anyone see?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pmJoe in Florida said:
Christine, will you have a link to ITV for this race, I got to see BGP live would love to see GGP live
July 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pmLe BOL said:
…if you want to read the extraordinary story of Bernard Cahier’s life in racing, sumptuously illustrated with pictures that capture the essence of our sport as it was in the Old Testament days, look no further than his magnificent autobiography, ‘F-Stops, Pit Stops, Laughter & Tears.’
Just found this, I didn’t know about it.
It looks like every car grew a couple of extra wings or horns and Nick went for a different helmet design.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pmme said:
the car seems twitchy at the front, but he’s going fast.
fastest fp2 time in ‘06 was 1:16.2.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pmme said:
any of these help you joe:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/links/formula-1-on-the-internet/
?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pmrolf123 said:
Hi, does anyone know where I can get a full archive of laptimes posted in the practice sessions?
Fastest laps don’t really tell you much of a story.
cheers
July 18th, 2008 at 1:16 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Formula1.com has an archive for all races, qualifyings and practices since the start of 1998.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:16 pmme said:
will check it out thanks.
renault haven’t blown an engine either.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pmScott said:
Interesting discussion about Bourdais between David Hobbs (who spent some time with Sebastien at Goodwood) and Bob Varsha on Speed. Apparently he (Bourdais) likes a lot of understeer in a car, but just can’t get the new STR machine set up anywhere near his liking.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Vettel’s complaining of “quite big vibration”.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pmScott in Italy said:
You can also watch a live stream here that Alianora (I think) found this morning
http://bilmosk.org/simulcastPlayer.swf
July 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Raikkonen has a bit of oversteer into the second part of the chicane, leading to quite a moment.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pmJoe in Florida said:
Peter Windsor is commenting on SPEED in the US, that Bordais should get the RBR seat, not Vettel.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pmme said:
sorry, yes, have added it to the list.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmAlianora La Canta said:
You can also watch a live stream here that Alianora (I think) found this morning {Scott in Italy - 3 comments ago}
I found it with the help of F1 Fanatic - but I’m not using it this afternoon, because the official ITV feed is behaving itself again.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmSteven Roy said:
Kimi is really pushing and can’t get near Massa. Very odd.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmme said:
kaz is back out again. and then back in again.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmJoe in Florida said:
Got it Christine, thanks. Happy me, will be seeing the race live.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Oops. Kimi is pushing a little too hard on that final turn…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmLe BOL said:
Yeah, I suspect they introduced those updates similar to Ferrari and BMW to gain some extra “donkey” power. Not sure how it works but Renault seems to be testing its and RBRs engines on Fridays.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmSteven Roy said:
I think Vettel should keep his big vibration. Now P3
July 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Rosberg’s losing most time in Sector 3, apparently.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:23 pmme said:
hehe. webber & coulthard not making and impression, neither is bourdais in 18th!
July 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmLe BOL said:
Honda team principal Ross Brawn has said their driver line-up of Britain’s Jenson Button and Brazilian Rubens Barrichello will remain unchanged for the 2009 Formula One season.
When asked if the same two men will be in the car next year, Brawn simply replied: “yes”.
It’s from Mr E’s website, must be reliable.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmme said:
i didn’t catch the radio, was a reason given?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Hamilton’s in P1.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmlou said:
Rubens and Jenson to remain at honda in 2009!
Link - http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/7/8105.html
le bol beat me to it
July 18th, 2008 at 1:25 pmme said:
seriously? wow. alonso’s options are narrowing then.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:25 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Nick, it helps if you stick to the dark grey stuff, not the light grey stuff. Nice sparks, though.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:25 pmme said:
nick plays pinball with his head, bouncing off the track and then on again.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pmSteven Roy said:
I think Ferrari got Vettel’s engine mixed up with Kimi’s. The vibration is just how a proper Ferrari engine feels.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pmScott said:
He made an interesting point about Vettel enjoying the advantage of having done a substantial amount of testing. Windsor also stated that Vettel is very harsh on the throttle, whereas Bourdais has a much smoother style.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pmRocket said:
Fisi. More than a second behind Sutil. Home track advantage indeed. ooh, here comes Fisicho.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:27 pmChristine said:
I do feel a little bit out of touch with this track. First time I’ve seen it and been paying attention, plus I didn’t get to do the lap for the video, so even though I think Parabolika is my favourite corner name, I don’t actually know which one it is.
Must study track guide.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
My lunch is ready - baguettes filled with ham and lettuce. Nice
July 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pmme said:
it’s working though.
vettel: 3rd
bourdais: 18th
although le seb has done fewer laps. vettel saying it’s hard to attack at the moment!
July 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pmRocket said:
I do love that phrase.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:29 pmme said:
long sweeping left hander before the hairpin.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:29 pmSteven Roy said:
Parabolica has been used as a corner name on a few tracks. Estoril has one where JV drove round the outside of Schumacher but the proper Parabolica is the last corner at Monza.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Parabolica. Isn’t that the last corner of Monza?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pmme said:
kaz now spotted sitting on the pitwall, 59mins to go, is it a terminal problem?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:31 pmme said:
yeah, this one is spelt with a ‘K’.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Massa looks like a serious threat to Hamilton right now.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmSteven Roy said:
Peter Windsor should have figured out by now that these cars don’t necessarily respond to smooth driving. Button is smooth, DC is smooth but the guys who have been really fast in recent years are not. We keep hearing how Lewis is hard on his tyres but he is fast.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmme said:
massa currently fastest through the speed trap (located just before the hairpin).
hamilton fastest in all three sectors.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Maybe Nakajima’s playing it cool…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmLe BOL said:
You bet! There’s this new rumour… about Hamilton going to Ferrari because his management is not happy with Ron’s way of life. The biggest internet F1 tabloid F1-Live says HAM Sr. was seen talking to Stefano D. at Hockenheim. Apparently, the source is The Times. Was HAM the father asking SD to make sure that Ferrari drivers didn’t block the track in the wet?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pmSteven Roy said:
Webber has clutch problems
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Sounds like Webber’s having gearbox issues of some sort.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Barrichello’s having grip issues of some sort. Not surprising given that he was on a rumble strip at the time…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pmme said:
rubens does a 180 at the exit of turn 1, before a reverse 180 points him in the right direction.
no damage done.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:35 pmSteven Roy said:
Kovi back up to P3
July 18th, 2008 at 1:35 pmSteven Roy said:
Now Kimi is P3
July 18th, 2008 at 1:36 pmChristine said:
Brilliant Honda spin, that one. Very elegant and nicely handled. 9 out of 10.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pmAnthony said:
Thats great work from massa. Closed in to Hamilton at about 0.2 secs a lap and he’s a real threat now.
Is it a drying track?, I’ve no video feed.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pmme said:
it is true, but eddie g. had the exclusive pics (and a rational take) here:
http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one/2008/07/is-this-the-fut.html
July 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pmme said:
wow, rubens even kicks massa backside when it comes to pointing the wrong direction. that guy can’t catch a break.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Hamilton’s really clocking up the miles.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pmScott said:
Peter Windsor has offered some more interesting insight - this time relating to Hamilton’s visor problem at Silverstone. Apparently Arai introduced a double visor solution in 2006, which Hamilton used in Japan last year. He wasn’t happy with it, though, saying that water got between the two visors.
In response, Arai told him that he should bare in mind that the conditions were just about as bad as you can get, and that a single visor solution would be much worse. However, Hamilton decided to ignore their advice, and handed visor preparation over to his physical trainer, who gave him a single visor at Silverstone, which is why he suffered the misting.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pmSteven Roy said:
Trulli looks like he is getting really aggresive with his car. Slapping the gear change switch and sawing at the wheel on corner entry.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pmChristine said:
Hamilton making use of every inch of track… and more.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pmme said:
completely dry track anthony. as more rubber goes down, it’ll get quicker. track temp is up and stable.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The track is bone-dry.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:40 pmme said:
it’s working a treat isn’t it.
6th while his teammate languishes in 15th.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:41 pmme said:
sutil still outclassing fissi at this stage. home advantage?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pmSteven Roy said:
Does Bourdais have problems. He has only done 5 laps.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pmLe BOL said:
Hmm… and I find it kinda funny! Very interesting.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pmme said:
ouch. glock goes wide, jumps in the air and slams hard into the ground.
he always finds those grassy bumps doesn’t he?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Glock!
July 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pmlou said:
flying lesson for Glock, Ouch I bet that hurt.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:44 pmme said:
was last seen going slowly when hamilton had to sweep around him.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:44 pmlou said:
Still having problems from this morning?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:45 pmme said:
the super slo-mo cam pointing at glock was so perfectly positioned, it’s almost as if they were expecting someone to fly up in the air there.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:45 pmlou said:
What’s wrong with Kaz? He has only done 3 laps…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmCorey said:
Glock has a rally future I think. Perfect landing
July 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmLe BOL said:
Hmm… This was the scene of JV’s last F1 race. Memorable crash it was.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:48 pmme said:
webber is out of his car too. two rb4’s with technical problems.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:49 pmSteven Roy said:
I guess Webber’s clutch didn’t work. They said if it didn’t work after one more try they would have to open it up and have a look
July 18th, 2008 at 1:49 pmScott said:
His engine’s misfiring.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:49 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Massa in P1.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:49 pmSteven Roy said:
Massa P1
July 18th, 2008 at 1:50 pmme said:
is massa keen to impress with schumi in attendance?
he’s doing well in these conditions. has anyone tried the soft tyre yet?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:50 pmLe BOL said:
Where have all the spectators gone? The grandstands are REALLY empty. No Schumi - no Germans?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:50 pmlou said:
Thank you.
My laptop ran out of battery so i missed a good ten mins running around trying to find the charger. 
July 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmChristine said:
The pit lane seems very narrow compared to others.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The daft thing is there is a Schumi - I saw a clear view of his head on the Ferrari pitwall a few minutes ago.
Massa does a practise start from the pit exit.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmSteven Roy said:
Massa just did a drive through.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmme said:
pessimist massa practising a drive-through penalty?
just a pitlane start then
July 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pmLe BOL said:
Maybe on Sunday we’ll see bigger crowds?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pmme said:
kubica saying first two laps out cause understeer and kill his tyres. anyone catch what they were going to change?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Heidfeld is saying that he’s experiencing so much understeer that it’s stopping him from going flat-out through Turns 10 and 11 and killing the tyres off. Not a happy chappie…
July 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pmme said:
you can see why the two circuits need to alternate. that’s bahrains crowd out there.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pmme said:
kovi out on softs.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pmChristine said:
Funny how we’re seeing more offs on the dry track than we did on the wet one!
July 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSteven Roy said:
Kubica’s tyre pressures were low early in the run bu OK at the end. He doesn’t seem convinced it is just the pressure that is the problem and wants it sorted for the race because his first two laps are killing the tyres
July 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pmme said:
at the moment, force india are looking good for q2. honda… not so much.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pmme said:
is anyone going faster on the softs?
is it just too cold for them at the moment?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pmChristine said:
Both FI or just one?
July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pmScott said:
I need to have the charger handy because I only get two hours’ battery life out of my laptop at the very most.
July 18th, 2008 at 1:59 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I’d love to see Force India in Q2. 14th and 15th makes me somewhat uneasy about that… …especially since Nakajima’s just rejoined the fray.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pmme said:
kaz down from the jacks. and his out at last.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pmlou said:
July 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pmSteven Roy said:
Kubica was just short of his best time on his first flying lap. I guess they have sorted the understeer.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmScott said:
Nakajima leaves the pits for - hopefully - some serious running.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmme said:
mmm, just sutil. although a 1:17.0 is pushing it.
it’ll need someone to make a mistake, but it’s doable.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmlou said:
Thats about the same for me. I was charging it in the other room earlier and had forgotten…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Those clouds look darker than they did 10 minutes ago.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmSteven Roy said:
And that is with Kaz and Le Seb doing almost no running.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Raikkonen looks good in sector 2, but doesn’t improve his time because his sector 3 is a bit slow.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pmlou said:
Nakajima on softs.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pmSteven Roy said:
The track temp graph has just gone vertical. It looks like it has instantly gone up by 3 degrees. The clouds look ominous
July 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pmme said:
button up to 12th
kimi’s making the soft tyres work for him. no wonder he wants for a hot sunny day.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pmlou said:
Jenson up into P12 - that’s just cause he is on softs though isen’t it?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Thunderstorm?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pmSteven Roy said:
Button P12?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmLe BOL said:
Webber’s new helmet is not bringing him luck.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmChristine said:
Trulli seems to be doing a bit better this session.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmSteven Roy said:
Rubens P12
July 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmRocket said:
Pressure’s heading south too.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pmlou said:
Rubens finally jumps up to 12th… i think he is on the softs too…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pmme said:
rubens drops button down the order by one place.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pmRocket said:
Coulthard and Glock looking faster. Warm track before the rain.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pmSteven Roy said:
Pressure has only moved 0.4 millibars which is nothing.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pmLe BOL said:
He-he! Ross is doing his best elf impersonation in those green pants.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pmlou said:
Those Honda fleeces look warm… i could do with one of those now. I’m cold!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pmme said:
ooh, forgot to look for that.
i haven’t seen him spin yet. it’s only a matter of time though, right?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:09 pmSteven Roy said:
Kaz has rattled of a few laps but isn’t going anywhere.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:09 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Adrian’s gone really wide. Oops!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pmSteven Roy said:
I didn’t know Webber had a new helmet. It looks like the old one.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Alonso brings some dust onto the circuit.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:11 pmChristine said:
So far, it looks like this weekend will be disappointing in terms of Ferrari/McLaren domination.
I’d quite like to see the run of bizarre podium lineups continue.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:11 pmRocket said:
How are those clouds looking?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:12 pmlou said:
If it rains in qualli anything could happen
July 18th, 2008 at 2:12 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Much brighter - some rays of sunshine are hitting the main straight!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:12 pmSteven Roy said:
In one direction the clouds look black but in another it looks like a Simpsons sky
July 18th, 2008 at 2:13 pmLe BOL said:
I wonder why Ross needed to confuse people earlier this season by saying that there would be no updates whatsoever on the 2008 car, now it turns out they’re planning new suspension for Budapest and special Monza package (for obvious reasons).
July 18th, 2008 at 2:13 pmme said:
he changed to shuberth after the british gp. first story on this weeks podcast!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pmRocket said:
Nicely evocative thankyou.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pmSteven Roy said:
I wonder if Lewis is sandbagging. All the others have improved their times by more than half a second since he set his best time. The track must be getting faster.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:15 pmme said:
maybe he wanted to get as many people thinking about 2009 as possible. or they might be ahead with their plans for next year.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:16 pmLe BOL said:
Also, a nice touch when he (Ross B.) was all moody while talking about the drivers for 2009, like “oh, I dunno” and stuff like that, I bet Rubens and Jenson were sweating, thinking about proving their skills.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:16 pmSteven Roy said:
I remember. I thought when I read the comment he had a new paint job. I wonder if he didn’t have a helmet contract or e is just doing a Schumi and ignoring it
July 18th, 2008 at 2:18 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Coulthard and Webber both have off-track excursions. Maybe those Red Bulls think they are real bulls after their trip to Pamplona…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:18 pmme said:
even though webber’s returned to the track, he hasn’t set the world alight. dc in 9th while he remains in 17th.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pmLe BOL said:
That big insane Schuberth helmet is not working with Newey’s idea of small cars, it creates too much drag. Webber must go back to Arai.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pmme said:
haha, umm, if he followed the schumi route, he’d still be wearing the old one here
July 18th, 2008 at 2:20 pmlou said:
I think the new updates for this year are mainly done and just need to be put on the car now…. I think that’s what he said just before the silverstone test anyway…. i could be wrong though
July 18th, 2008 at 2:20 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Whatever DC’s wearing, Mark needs it…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pmme said:
that is a turn-up for the books isn’t it?
vettel shouldn’t have the run on dc though!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:21 pmSteven Roy said:
Schumi switched from Bell to Schuberth but had to pay Bell something like $100k per race for the balance of his contract but I guess he could afford it.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pmChristine said:
Apologies that I don’t remember who it was, but in a previous Live Commenting session, I think someone said Red Bull can only manage to produce one decent car at a time.
This must be Coulthard’s turn, last week was Webber’s. Weird.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pmSteven Roy said:
Bourdais on track
July 18th, 2008 at 2:23 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Finally. Someone (Massa) is setting a purple sector.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:23 pmme said:
eventually, but wasn’t he forced to wear the old one for a few races too?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pmme said:
6 minutes to go and the temperature is still climbing.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pmSteven Roy said:
I think Schumi switched helmets immediately but you could be right. i don’t remember him backing down though.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pmLe BOL said:
Who’s that guy in Ferrari garage? Alesi Jr.?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:26 pmLe BOL said:
My idol Piquet is on track! He’s gonna kick some mighty… dust.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:26 pmSteven Roy said:
Temperature climbing and humidity dropping. That should stress the Renault engine.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:26 pmme said:
so kaz and bourdais are going round in circles. no improvement from either of them.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Everyone except Massa is on track.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmme said:
every driver bar massa on track
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmSteven Roy said:
Trulli looked like he was trying to find the Nurburgring
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmLe BOL said:
Is it me or the anvil wing is not working in windy Hockenheim?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I thought Jarno was going to crash into a wall for a moment there. Meanwhile, Hamilton looks very quick.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pmChristine said:
So close to having everyone out on track.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pmSteven Roy said:
Here comes Lewis
July 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pmme said:
July 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pmSteven Roy said:
I knew he was sandbaggging
July 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pmme said:
webber p5!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Le BOL, I think you’re right. Though it’s not supposed to be all that windy today, so the anvil wing brigade will have it even worse tomorrow.
Good thing McLaren elected not to attach it to their cars…
July 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSteven Roy said:
Ferrari have just spent an hour getting down to his time and he does 1 quick lap and is 0.7 away again. Massa will be most upset.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmme said:
you was correct. and what a margin!
July 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmLe BOL said:
Has Webber changed his helmet?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmStuart Codling said:
Lucky pants?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmSteven Roy said:
Bourdais about to move up a place or teo
July 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pmme said:
how did fif1 end up last?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pmScott said:
More Windsor insight (this time of a self congratulatory nature): Since the French Grand Prix, Nakajima - alongside his race engineer Xevi Pujolar - has been training with Windsor’s own driver development company. Peter went on to highlight the remarkable improvement in form Nakajima has shown since.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pmLe BOL said:
Hamilton smells good - like a good HAM should.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pmme said:
i don’t know if it’s been confirmed. and i wasn’t looking at first. so not a clue.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I don’t know. Le BOL reckons anvil wings don’t work, so that might be part of the explanation.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pmlou said:
Gosh those Ferrari machanics look happy.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:33 pmme said:
wha??
July 18th, 2008 at 2:33 pmSteven Roy said:
The Ferrari mechanics don’t look very happy. Shame.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pmLe BOL said:
I guess I was wrong - cast-iron anvil guys are in top ten, except Le Séb and Force India.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pmChristine said:
Is it the safety car test now?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pmSteven Roy said:
I could easily find seven tenths out there - MS
July 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Hamilton smells good - like a good HAM should. {Le BOL - 3 comments ago}
July 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pmme said:
ummm, well the cars looked be going slowly, i didn’t see a board though?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pmRocket said:
You love this don’t you Christine?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:36 pmSteven Roy said:
I don’t understand how Kovi can be a second slower than Lewis at Hockenheim. It’s not like it is the most difficult circuit in the world.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pmSteven Roy said:
Everyone is back in the pits so I guess no SC test. Maybe the FIA have realised how utterly stupid it is but I doubt it.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:38 pmLe BOL said:
I forgot to mention my idol - le Piquet.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pmlou said:
Why is there a little GP2 symbol at the bottom of the video feed?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pmLe BOL said:
Windsor is God.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pmSteven Roy said:
How did Webber get to P5? When did that happen?
July 18th, 2008 at 2:40 pmme said:
while hamilton was on his lap.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:43 pmScott in Italy said:
Nice work from Hamilton. Sadly I didn’t get to watch much of the session.
By the way, I just logged onto fantasyracers.com for the first time since setting it up pre season. I’m coming 1380th and haven’T changed drivers once. I’d love to hear from anyone else that hasn’t touched their line up since the start (or those that have and are going worse!)
July 18th, 2008 at 2:43 pmme said:
thank you all you lovely people. muchly enjoyed fp2 today. personally i think ferrari are sitting ducks come rain or shine, but we’ll get to see more tomorrow morning. 10am at your place then?
oh, and christine will be back with much podcasting goodness later on today.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pmme said:
final fp2 times:
July 18th, 2008 at 2:55 pmme said:
missed this comment earlier, but we know that feeling very well.
it’s my belief that a macbook air will solve such problems. affording one (and then not breaking it) will be an issue though.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pmlou said:
lol I suppose it would be lighter to carry too.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pmme said:
i would say “perfect for attending the british gp”.
however, the likelihood of sitting on it in a tent is also quite high.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Why is there a little GP2 symbol at the bottom of the video feed? {lou - 8 comments ago}
One of Bernie’s little marketing gimmicks.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:04 pmScott said:
I’d love to switch back to OS X away from Vista. I used to get up to six hours battery life out of my iBook, although that was probably due to it having a 12.1″ screen.
Owning a Macbook Air would be great, wouldn’t it? I’ve got my eye on the solid state option, although have no hope of affording it at the moment.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:11 pmme said:
me neither.
we carried a very heavy laptop around with for the past three weeks, so suddenly weight is at the forefront of our minds. i wasn’t bothered about it in the past, but right now “air” sounds appealing.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:14 pmScott said:
Have ITV left the stream running for qualifying?
Bernie will not be happy.
Speaking of GP2 quali, Pantano is currently fastest on a 1:21.650. Then it’s Grosjean, Buemi, Zuber and Senna.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:15 pmlou said:
no it’s gone now…
July 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pmLe BOL said:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/glockistickingflying
dropped this.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:26 pmme said:
hehe, nice one
axis has some videos from the sessions today, and if you watch a couple of seconds into this one:
http://www.vimeo.com/1362985?pg=embed&sec=1362985
you’ll see webber does indeed have a schuberth helmet.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:29 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I have now submitted my provisional practise-qualifying-race comparitor for Friday. It’s got both a qualifying and a race predictor in it now, but the former was only 20% accurate last race and the latter is very much in prototype form at the moment. Note that the race comparitor assumes everyone finishes; if someone drops out, then in theory you should only need to renumber the list minus the retiree, but races are very complex beasts.
Conclusions
Qualifying
- Bourdais and Sutil are almost certainly out in first qualifying
- Trulli and Kubica are supposedly out in first qualifying, but I think that’s just a glitch in the spreadsheet
- Assuming the above, the Hondas and Fisichella are in serious danger of not getting past Q1
- Piquet Jr, Glock, Coulthard and Heidfeld are likely to get to Q2 but no further. However one of them may get through to Q3.
Predicted 1-6:
Hamilton-Massa
Kovalainen-Alonso
Raikkonen-Vettel/Rosberg (the comparitor put them in joint 6th, which is impossible…)
Race
Predicted 1-10:
Massa-Hamilton
Raikkonen-Kovalainen
Alonso-Vettel
Rosberg-Webber
Piquet Jr-Coulthard
July 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pmScott said:
The GP2 qualifying session has just finished, and - despite a mid-session spin - the former Jordan F1 driver Giorgio Pantano takes pole. Here’s the full run down:
1. Pantano
2. Grosjean
3. Zuber
4. Buemi
5. Di Grassi
6. Senna
7. Parente
8. Kobayashi
9. Villa
10. Petrov
11. Chankdock
12. Yamamoto
13. Filippi
14. d’Ambrosio
15. Maldonado
16. Soucek
17. Tung
18. Valsecchi
19. Valerio
20. Conway
21. Nunes
22. Rodriguez
23. Iaconelli
24. Asmer
25. Valles
26. Herck
July 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pmme said:
wow, okay this is good stuff. thank you.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:38 pmStuart Codling said:
Good work!
July 18th, 2008 at 3:39 pmStuart Codling said:
By the way, anyone else quite excited at the prospect of the Mansells – “pere et fils” as N Roebuck would say – racing at the Petit Le Mans?
July 18th, 2008 at 3:41 pmJordan Allen said:
I know that when Europeans are learning how to cook, whenever they make a mess it is called British food or British style cooking, but what do you British call mistakes in cooking?
Or can’t you tell?
Currently using chopsticks to pick up my Udon,
Jordan (Allen) F1.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pmJordan Allen said:
Do not come to Canada then. We have something here called “Finger Food”…..
July 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pmAlianora La Canta said:
me, Stuart, thanks for the compliments.
By the way, anyone else quite excited at the prospect of the Mansells – “pere et fils” as N Roebuck would say – racing at the Petit Le Mans? {Stuart Codling - 2 comments ago}
I didn’t even know the Petit Le Mans was on this weekend - it’s tricky to keep track of everything in the racing world. Good luck to the Mansells though
what do you British call mistakes in cooking? {Jordan Allen - previous comment}
Generally speaking, we just call them mistakes. Unless it’s Mum who’s done it, when she throws the mess in a pan of pasta and calls them “leftovers”. Strangely enough, she usually gets away with it then.
I can’t do that myself yet, though, since I can’t even figure out how the hob works yet…
Currently using chopsticks to pick up my Udon, {Jordan Allen - previous comment}
Hope you’re enjoying it.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pmJordan Allen said:
It is the 2nd corner Christine. The “wide” or first hairpin that takes teh drivers away from the forest, onto the so-called “backstraight”.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:54 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Do not come to Canada then. We have something here called “Finger Food” {Jordan Allen - 2 comments ago}
Good one
But it’s more overreacting on their part than anything else - the only time I’ve ever cut myself in the kitchen was on a cheese grater…
July 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmStuart Codling said:
It’s not for a couple of months yet, but they’ve been testing at Estoril.
July 18th, 2008 at 3:59 pmAlianora La Canta said:
OK, fair enough, Stuart.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pmSteven Roy said:
I don’t care if he races or not so long as no-one sticks a microphone in his face so that we have to listen to him whine again. At least this time he can’t moan about his team mates. Although from what I have seen of his sons’ careers they are pretty useless so at least the prospect of them winning is not something I need to contemplate. They seem to be the worst second generation drivers ever. Every other successful F1 driver’s kids seem to be reasonably competitive in the junior categories.
Raikkonen behind Alonso in qualifying and Massa ahead of Hamilton in the race. Those are not my predictions but given your spreadsheet’s success at Silverstone I am reluctant to argue. I guess it is difficult for the comparitor to factor in BMW’s Friday sandbagging but maybe after FP3 it will. It managed at Silverstone so it may do it again. Interesting info nonetheless.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pmSteven Roy said:
There is an ALMS race at Mid-Ohio this weekend but the Petit Le Mans race is on 4th October so penty time to practise.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pmme said:
not a mansell fan then?
being honest, i have never heard of petit le mans so i shall have to investigate.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pmSteven Roy said:
I started out as a Mansell fan but I got very fed up listening to him whine. He was one of the bravest drivers ever. Broke his neck in F3. Had a load of petrol poured down his back on the grid for his F1 debut and still did 44 laps of the Oesterreichring and then spent the rest of his career being a drama queen.
Try http://www.americanlemans.com/Schedule/SeasonSchedule.aspx for info on the whole schedule. Petit Le Mans is a ten hour race on a great circuit and like most of the schedule can be seen live on Wheels/Speed on TVU.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:52 pmSteven Roy said:
Stuart’s mention of Wittgenstein earlier set me thinking. Well he was a philospher after all. I like to think that I can add something to a discussion on any subject so the link is my contribution on the subject of Wittgenstein and philosophers in general.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5fGSBsfq8&feature=related
July 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pmStuart Codling said:
Comic genius.
July 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pmLe BOL said:
Hmm, who’s been testing? Mansell? When? I live not far from Estoril but their website sucks, no mention of testing activities and when I call there it’s all confidential.
Mansell le père was OK, I was a kid when he was racing in the 1980s but I remember 1992 vividly. Never saw him “live”, I’m curious.
July 18th, 2008 at 6:55 pmme said:
i think it’s already done and dusted (at least the first test). no idea if there will be more though.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:14 pmLe BOL said:
Yeah, I know. Bad luck.
Diz iz interesting: http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20601.html
“Yesterday Windshear Inc held “a grand opening” for the world’s first commercially available full-scale, single-belt, rolling road wind tunnel. This is located in Concord, North Carolina, in the heart of NASCAR country. The facilty, which can simulate conditions of cars running at 180mph, is owned by California-based Haas Automation, one of the world’s biggest machine tool companies.
The word on the grapevine is that McLaren and Renault have already booked time in the facility and we have even heard that Renault has had a car in the tunnel.”
Even more interesting is diz: “The word in Italy is that Ferrari has plans for a new facility along similar lines.”
July 18th, 2008 at 7:22 pmLe BOL said:
Talking about Renault: English side of the self-styled “fan site” has generated a fantastic number of comments today, in the region of 50 with 3 new blog entries. That’s what you call “tragic death”.
Since Bradley left they opted for refined, comic book style and here’s the result. Instead of raw, rough & attractive image we get ersatz pop culture. Not sure who’s the new person in charge but he or she is too pr-friendly. Not to mention the general low quality of the comments, no wonder my dog quit right after me.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:44 pmme said:
thing is, i would comment if i could only get on there. the site appears to work better if i’m not logged in, but then i can’t comment.
when i spoke to rf1pp at the recent test i said:
“i can’t get on the fan site 50% of the time”
and he responded:
“i bet you’re using internet explorer”
now you and i both know i have a mac running safari or firefox. so if the guy thinks there are issues on a pc using the world’s most dominant web browser, and i know it doesn’t work on mac using any web browser… what the heck does it work on?
we’ve written blog posts, commented here and on renault’s site. sent emails and spoken to the man in charge. short of going to france and fixing the damn code ourselves, i cannot for the life of me think what else we can do?
July 18th, 2008 at 7:58 pmLe BOL said:
Terrible! It works for me I must admit, I bought my laptop, which was the cheapest on the market in 2006, fitted with stupid Windows XP of some kind and then I bought Norton Antivirus, the rest - I dunno, I don’t understand a thing about software of hardware. I can connect my camera and use a couple of programs but that’s it.
Now we know it’s not a lady.
Anyway, I’ve been bombing you with quotes and I’ll continue because this one is funny.
Q. (Kevin Garside – The Daily Telegraph) Stefano, let me take you back to the English newspaper, if I may. It was The Times and they were presenting a trivial football news kind of story. They suggested you were swooping at the McLaren Mercedes event last night, tempting Lewis’s father with an offer to bring young Lewis to Ferrari. If that wasn’t what you were talking about, perhaps you could tell us what you were speaking to Lewis’s father about?
Domenicalli: That’s fantastic anyway. It’s good news! I was walking away from Norbert’s party because I had other things to do with our sponsor. Anthony just came up behind me and just said hallo and that’s it, very easy. It’s nice to see how these things can grow. Everyone has seen it, I think. Easy.
Haug: I think that’s a great place to start negotiations with our driver: behind the Mercedes grandstand. Of course Stefano would do that! Why would he not meet in a hotel room or wherever? And he’s a gentleman, by the way. He’s not coming to our function and then talking to our driver. But I think it’s great that there is some communication going on next to the race track, and I think that was it.
My comment is in moderation. Wicked.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:59 pmLe BOL said:
My comment sank. Help! I need somebody!
July 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pmme said:
ahh, most likely, there’s multiple rf1pp’s. because let’s face it… three blog posts a day is a lot for one person who’s out and about with a camera too.
not just anybody
July 18th, 2008 at 8:16 pmme said:
out of interest. you can edit a comment that goes into moderation?
July 18th, 2008 at 8:20 pmLe BOL said:
It certainly appears so.
They confessed that not all photos were taken by them, they sometimes use other people’s pictures.
And Hamilton is not going to Ferrari, but Stefano refused to confirm anything about his drivers’ contract length. So maybe a ray of hope for Alonso? I think he’ll stay with Renault, 50/50 I’d say.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:25 pmBecken said:
Who is worst to spread rumors? Willie Webber or Ed Gorman?
July 18th, 2008 at 8:27 pmSteven Roy said:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69202
Mansell and one of his sons tested at Estoril on Tuesday and Wednesday. The other son was there but did not drive.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:27 pmme said:
cool. dumb question then…
is not possible to pull a comment out of the moderation queue by editing it until it appears again?
oh what? you’re kidding
if i were renault i’d have more than one, just because they can afford to. christine was sick last week (not sure if we mentioned it) and it completely floored us. i know it’s only a blog, but if the person’s anonymous then anyone could write it.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:28 pmSteven Roy said:
I am coming to the conclusion that Massa is faster than Kimi so often because Kimi has decided to retire and Alonso is going to Ferrari.
July 18th, 2008 at 8:49 pmLe BOL said:
Yeah, you can confirm that, go to Monaco Thursday RF1 blog entry and you’ll find a confirmation.
It certainly doesn’t appear so. Why do you think I cried for help?
Becken, onde é que tu ‘tás? Portugal ou Brasil?
July 18th, 2008 at 8:51 pmme said:
fair point
July 18th, 2008 at 8:52 pmLe BOL said:
OK, folks, see you all tomorrow. I’m sure it’ll be fun.
July 18th, 2008 at 9:01 pmDan Brunell said:
Why is it that the more I am around Formula One, the more it sounds like professional wrestling? I can imagine Ron Dennis and Domenicalli are “fighting” in the ring when Lewis Hamilton sneaks behind Dennis with a folding chair, hits him over the back, and knocks him out. Then Lewis rips off his McLaren hooded sweater to reveal a Ferrari jersey underneath it.
Some might say this is ridiculous and that a F1 driver would never take part in such a low brow thing such as professional wrestling… however it wouldn’t be the first time…
July 18th, 2008 at 9:04 pmBecken said:
Estou no Brasil, Le BOL, mais precisamente na cidade de Senna, São Paulo (Senna´s city!)…
Uummm… perfect phrase in Portuguese!! [I´m not so good in english as you are in Portuguese ;(…]
“…I think he’ll stay with Renault, 50/50 I’d say…”
Livio Oricchio, Brazilian insider, who has some friends inside Renault and Honda, said that Alonso wants another ONE YEAR deal with Honda but they only want a THREE YEAR deal. Barrichello confirmed to Orrichio, that Ross is about to confirm his line-up after Alonso´s refusal the three year deal.
Another interesting thing reported by Oricchio is that Ferrari has inside their boxes this weekend a Meteo France´s employee, to interpret the data from the satellite.
Could be that guy “the window” that Stefano were talking about?
July 18th, 2008 at 9:07 pmme said:
wow. good insight, thanks becken.