Live Commenting: Hungary – Free Practice 1
As Formula One teams prepare to run some laps in Hungary we’ve found ourselves at a bit of a loose end. Unusually, the weather seems almost predictable this weekend, leaving us little to do but look to the track for some excitement.
This morning is expected to be hot and dry, although Brad pointed out that the city of Budapest experienced torrential rainfall yesterday evening, so there’s a very slim chance that some of Saturday or Sunday’s action could be rain affected.
On paper, warm temperatures appear to favour Ferrari, but we’ve speculated in the past that the red cars work better on a rubbered-in track, and seeing as this place is renowned for being something of a dust bowl, things still may not go their way. McLaren by comparison should be looking forward to a peaceful weekend after re-signing Heikki for a further year (his capitulation in Germany bearing fruit already).
Further down the field, Red Bull’s decision to run their Renault engine for a third race in a row doesn’t come into play until tomorrow. Glock recovered well from his shunt in the last race to test in Jerez so he’ll be on duty this morning and finally, keep an eye on Piquet, who’s probably still on cloud nine after his first F1 podium two weeks ago.
The on track action begins at 9am in the UK (or 10am local time). We’re testing the new live commenting system in anger for the first time today, so do let us know if it’s working for you.
We’ll be watching ITV’s live stream as per usual, as well as following live timing. Details of other means to keep up with the action are listed on our Formula 1 on the Internet page.
A circuit map and other useful resources can be found in the Drop.io box. Shout us if you’re around and feel free to add screenshots or anything else that grabs your attention this morning.
You shouldn’t let him...
Both, and add happy to the mix as well.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:38 #1 - me said:
re: the live commenting system. have dropped the refresh rate to once every 20 seconds and have manipulated the page layout so that it takes up less screen space.
the arrangement isn’t ideal, and we’ll work on improving it during the weekend. any thoughts, complaints etc, please do say so.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:48 #2 - Christine said:
Oooh, so this is the first proper test.
By the way the pink thing is good, but it goes underneath my Post Comment button.
Most likely IE’s fault.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:49 #3 - Alex Andronov said:
Yeah IE is doing some things a bit weird with the pink thing. I suppose that’s the peril of pink.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:50 #4 - Alex Andronov said:
It also seems that not everything fits on one page… Which is a shame I think.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:51 #5 - Christine said:
Which bit doesn’t fit for you?
August 1st, 2008 at 08:52 #6 - me said:
soz, don’t have IE to hand. have taken a guess, can you refresh and see if that helps?
you mean height wise? i can probably fix, if you can describe
August 1st, 2008 at 08:53 #7 - Alex Andronov said:
The post box is off the bottom of the page in both IE7 and Firefox. I mean it might be on purpose but it… I know… drop.io…
August 1st, 2008 at 08:54 #8 - Alex Andronov said:
The pink thing is fixed.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:55 #9 - Christine said:
Ah, that’s much better, I can see all the pink now!
It’s probably worth nothing at some point, in the about bit maybe, that the Name URL’s don’t show up in this screen, but do on the regular commenting page.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:55 #10 - me said:
you mean in the 3 boxes? as in your name, your email and your url?
if so that’s on me list
August 1st, 2008 at 08:56 #11 - Christine said:
Marvellous.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:57 #12 - Christine said:
Live timing has appeared
August 1st, 2008 at 08:58 #13 - Christine said:
Did I miss the fact that Drop.io does Twitter alerts? I know we don’t like Twitter right now, but that’s pretty cool.
August 1st, 2008 at 08:59 #14 - me said:
it was released a few days ago. if twitter worked we’d use it
August 1st, 2008 at 09:00 #15 - Alianora La Canta said:
I can’t find the Live Commenting bit, which is less worrying than the fact the ITV stream hasn’t started yet.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:00 #16 - me said:
have put a screenshot of my desktop in drop.io:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/mes-desktop
the second tab i have in the browser is for grabbing comments out of moderation. all seems to fit nicely on screen.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:00 #17 - Alianora La Canta said:
Fisi’s first out!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:00 #18 - Alex Andronov said:
or comparison info I’m running two monitors on 1600 x 1200
August 1st, 2008 at 09:00 #19 - Alianora La Canta said:
What’s up with Twitter?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:01 #20 - Dank said:
No feed on ITV yet, 5Live not covering again…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:01 #21 - me said:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/ria/ajax/
i have no ITV either
August 1st, 2008 at 09:01 #22 - Alianora La Canta said:
Seven people are checking conditions.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:01 #23 - me said:
it’s flaky, falls over every day, fails to update when expected, loses conversations i could go on…
ask me later
August 1st, 2008 at 09:02 #24 - me said:
finally itv wakes up. it’s far behind though.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:02 #25 - Christine said:
ITV started.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:02 #26 - Alex Andronov said:
I would ask you on twitter but…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:04 #27 - me said:
blimey. will work on making comments fit onto that kinda setup between sessions. you would have been fine with the old layout!!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:04 #28 - Alianora La Canta said:
OK, me and Alex, I’ll make sure I don’t start using it, then.
Timo Glock gives the camera a wave as he ambles to his pit garages.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:04 #29 - Christine said:
Crikey, ITV is so far behind, it’s barely worth watching!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:04 #30 - doctorvee said:
Uhhhh so how many minutes behind is the ITV feed this week? It must be at least 5 minutes!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:05 #31 - Christine said:
What you need is like the BBC homepage, where you can move the blocks around how you like
August 1st, 2008 at 09:05 #32 - Alianora La Canta said:
I thought I saw Kimi Raikkonen for a moment, but then noticed he was actually a fan in the crowd with the same hair, sunglasses, angular facial features and Ferrari kit.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:05 #33 - Alex Andronov said:
Well… Yes. I realise I am a… um… unusal case!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:05 #34 - me said:
they’ve dropped the ball today haven’t they?
feel free to try it. it’s just not good enough for us at the moment, and likely never will be. it’s fun to use, but no use as a serious platform.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:06 #35 - Alex Andronov said:
As a fellow developer, I can hear me crying at this suggestion!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:07 #36 - doctorvee said:
By my reckoning it is a staggering TWELVE minutes behind!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:07 #37 - me said:
sheesh, embarrassing for them, and a pain for us.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:07 #38 - Alianora La Canta said:
The ITV stream started a minute ago, and is still doing crowd shots. They’d better have a closer correlation with real time later in the weekend, or there’ll be serious complaints!
I can now confirm that ITV are in fact 7 minutes and 14 seconds behind, because they’ve just put up the 5-minute graphic.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:07 #39 - me said:
yeah, i’ll just whip that up before the action really gets going
August 1st, 2008 at 09:08 #40 - Christine said:
I don’t want you getting bored
August 1st, 2008 at 09:08 #41 - Alianora La Canta said:
I might have tried Twitter, me, but I’m not the sort of person who enjoys drop-outs in conversation and extreme slowness at the best of times.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:09 #42 - Alex Andronov said:
Well it is the Hungarian Grand Prix…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:09 #43 - Christine said:
I don’t think I can watch ITV this session. If it’s a minute behind, it’s not too hard to work out what you’re looking at, but seven minutes is too much.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:09 #44 - Alianora La Canta said:
Button’s doing a second lap!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:10 #45 - pmtate said:
first test of live commenting including itv coverage on shiny new hp laptop and hdmi on 32″ tv is brilliant
Paul
August 1st, 2008 at 09:10 #46 - me said:
as a concept it’s pure genius. in practice it’s painful.
inclined to agree. although i am looking out for a ferrari shark fin.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:11 #47 - lou said:
Hey everyone
I’m a little late but no matter 
have i missed much?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:11 #48 - Alianora La Canta said:
The ITV stream temporarily dropped out before going back to looking at strange-angled Ferrari shots and images of people leaving the very-tempting watersports centre near the track.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:11 #49 - me said:
wow. that must be huge! cheers paul.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:11 #50 - Christine said:
Was it the Honda’s that did two installation laps last time round? Wonder why they feel the need to double the work.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:12 #51 - Alianora La Canta said:
No, you’ve missed absolutely nothing, except that the Hondas appear to have decided to do a pit start during their installation laps. You’ll see it on ITV in a minute, probably.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:13 #52 - F1Wolf said:
good morning
August 1st, 2008 at 09:13 #53 - Christine said:
Is the super-soft and soft tyre compound choice the same as last year?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:14 #54 - Christine said:
Morning Wolf
August 1st, 2008 at 09:14 #55 - lou said:
Thanks alianora
August 1st, 2008 at 09:15 #56 - me said:
the choice is the same, but bridgestone changed the supersoft spec this year didn’t they?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:15 #57 - F1Wolf said:
afternoon here already
looks like Ferrari are seriosu about the “fin”
August 1st, 2008 at 09:15 #58 - Alianora La Canta said:
Good morning, F1Wolf, and you’re welcome, lou.
Vettel’s car looked a bit smoky there. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:16 #59 - lou said:
ooo the avril wing doesn’t look so bad. well not as bad as i thought it would anyway
August 1st, 2008 at 09:16 #60 - me said:
it’s attractive isn’t it? oh i bet they wish they had one of those pre-tobacco ban.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:16 #61 - Alianora La Canta said:
The supersoft spec is different, me, but don’t expect it to make the races massively more exciting.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:17 #62 - pmtate said:
is bernie’s timing screen working? the session time is counting down but have no new laptimes, although itv being so far behind is a bit disconcerting
Paul
August 1st, 2008 at 09:18 #63 - lou said:
ok i know you said itv was behind. but mine is about 12 mins behind!!!!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:18 #64 - Christine said:
No one is on track at the moment.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:19 #65 - me said:
really confusing isn’t it?
no cars on track at the moment. only ferrari not done installation laps so far.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:19 #66 - Alianora La Canta said:
The timing screen is working. There really isn’t anyone on track right now, and hasn’t been for about 10 minutes.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:19 #67 - Christine said:
Autosport Live says:
“Meanwhile to the west of the circuit, the rainfall radar is now showing the thunderstorm band is dissipating as it reaches the north-west suburbs of Budapest, some 20 to 30 miles away from the circuit.”
August 1st, 2008 at 09:20 #68 - Alianora La Canta said:
Kubica’s getting ready to get in his car again!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:21 #69 - Christine said:
It also says that Raikkonen didn’t even arrive at the Ferrari garage until 13 minutes in. He obviously wasn’t expecting much action!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:22 #70 - Alianora La Canta said:
So it’s not just press conferences that Kimi is late to…
…meanwhile, Robert Kubica is going to entertain us by doing some running in his BMW
August 1st, 2008 at 09:22 #71 - me said:
par for the course this weekend isn’t it? at least today it won’t cost him anything
August 1st, 2008 at 09:22 #72 - lou said:
kimi doesn’t seem to be the most punctual of drivers
August 1st, 2008 at 09:23 #73 - me said:
phew. so at the moment:
- track temp stable at: 19deg
- air temp stable at 26deg
- it’s dry
August 1st, 2008 at 09:23 #74 - me said:
did the kub come back in again?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:24 #75 - Stuart C said:
Morning all.
Massive thunderstorm on the way back to Budapest last night – a real humdinger. Flooded roads and everything.
No corpulent Irish-American politicians spotted yet this morning…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:24 #76 - Junior said:
In Hungary it’s normal this time that in the morning you get some rain, but by noon, things go warm and dry. So I’d expect a dry qualification and race.
And as Hungary was nice to Piquet sr. in the 80’s lets see if it’s as good for Piquet jr.
Same goes for Germany…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:25 #77 - F1Wolf said:
this session is so exciting
I better go back to work 
August 1st, 2008 at 09:25 #78 - Christine said:
So, place your bets on when Ferrari will hit the track?
I reckon with 46 minutes to go.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:26 #79 - lou said:
seeing as there is nothing going on, im off to have a quick shower. back soon.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:26 #80 - me said:
that’ll sort out the dusty track. might make it a bit green though.
cheers junior, be good if he can keep up the momentum, if only to see how long until alonso explodes.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:26 #81 - Christine said:
Ah, apparently Massa has only just arrived, so he steals Kimi’s trophy for being latest today
August 1st, 2008 at 09:26 #82 - Alianora La Canta said:
Wow, sounds like the light drizzle my favoured weather prediction source used was somewhat heavier than anticipated. Hope you weren’t too inconvenienced by the floods, Stuart.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:27 #83 - Alianora La Canta said:
We may get another spate of runners soon.
That swimming pool looks wonderful – when the ITV streaming isn’t dropping out.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:27 #84 - me said:
i say with in 4 mins. so 58 to go.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:28 #85 - Junior said:
How do you people see who’s coming late?
Is that ITV’s ‘only for britain’-live stream?
Or are you there?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:28 #86 - me said:
that would explain the empty grandstands
August 1st, 2008 at 09:29 #87 - Christine said:
I’m checking in with Autosport Live every now and again.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:29 #88 - F1Wolf said:
http://bilmosk.org/simulcastPlayer.swf – in case you can’t see ITV, but it also delayed
August 1st, 2008 at 09:30 #89 - LadySnowcat said:
Looks pretty hot out in Hungary….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:30 #90 - Christine said:
Okay, more bets, then, who will set the first time?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:30 #91 - Junior said:
@F1Wolf: Thx for the tip/link!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:31 #92 - Alianora La Canta said:
I’m definitely not there, Junior. We do have the live stream (limited as its utility is right now) but I also have live timing and Autosport Live running. I imagine that several other people on the blog are in the same position.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:31 #93 - me said:
cheers wolf. i wonder if it’s the world feed that’s delayed then?
the flags are waving, it looks quite breezy. perfect weather for some racing…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:31 #94 - me said:
rubens… cause he’s just gone out
August 1st, 2008 at 09:31 #95 - Alianora La Canta said:
Barrichello is out – lou will be delighted
August 1st, 2008 at 09:32 #96 - me said:
i might’ve been wrong with me ferrari prediction.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:32 #97 - Alianora La Canta said:
Note: Rubens is on super-soft tyres. The cars will need all the grip they can get out on that dusty surface.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:33 #98 - Christine said:
Yea, I don’t think you’d get good odds on that.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:33 #99 - doctorvee said:
I think most of these dodgy online feeds are actually the ITV feed hacked so that non-UK people can use them. So if ITV’s delayed, they’ll all be delayed.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:34 #100 - Alianora La Canta said:
Amusing. Barrichello’s doing a quick lap on live timing while we watch Kubica doing an installation lap on ITV…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:34 #101 - LadySnowcat said:
The delay on itv is worse than I have seen before… I wonder why?….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:34 #102 - me said:
ahh, figures. cheers.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:35 #103 - LadySnowcat said:
It’s not often you see Rubens in purple is it?….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:36 #104 - me said:
fastest lap friday in ‘07 was:
1:22.3
rubens puts in a:
1:34.2
August 1st, 2008 at 09:36 #105 - Alianora La Canta said:
Button’s running.
Maybe Hungary’s TV facilities are no longer up to par? Boy, that could attract some whinging from Bernie!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:36 #106 - lou said:
August 1st, 2008 at 09:36 #107 - Christine said:
Maybe it’s not just Brundle who is on holiday for Hungary? Maybe no one at ITV can be bothered this weekend!!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:37 #108 - LadySnowcat said:
It would almost be worth having a few testers out to clean the track and to get the action going….
Ant anyone?….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:38 #109 - Junior said:
Maybe simple thinking, but: if Ferrari are expected to struggle (last two races were a disaster, green track doesn’t suit the car,…) then why don’t they go out early, do a lot of laps, get ahead, learn something, etc, …?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:38 #110 - me said:
yeah, i liked the idea of running testers on friday.
they’d get heaps more exposure this year too.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:38 #111 - lou said:
jenson is fastest of the to hondas atm
August 1st, 2008 at 09:39 #112 - Alianora La Canta said:
The track grip is very low due to it being Hungary and there being lots of rain last night.
There are a bunch of Ferrari supporters either arriving or leaving en masse. I’m guessing at arriving because the Ferraris still haven’t gone out yet. Maybe they were at the pool earlier…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:39 #113 - Christine said:
And experience.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:39 #114 - me said:
that’s a good question. bravado or pride maybe? they want to appear as though it’s all under control really.
or maybe, they just don’t think there’s much to learn on a dirty track.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:40 #115 - Alianora La Canta said:
Junior, that would seem sensible, but there’s a strict tyre limit and the teams are careful in how they manage it.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:41 #116 - me said:
also a good point.
on the plus side, i’m assuming there will be plenty of action this afternoon?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:41 #117 - Junior said:
I see daddy Hamilton is there. Like always!
Which other driver brings a sidekick with him?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:41 #118 - me said:
le seb puts in a purple s1.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:42 #119 - lou said:
lets hope so
August 1st, 2008 at 09:42 #120 - Alianora La Canta said:
Oh dear. Toro Rossos are not supposed to be 0.7 seconds faster than Hondas…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:42 #121 - lou said:
Well Jenson’s dad often comes but he stays pretty much out of the way.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:42 #122 - me said:
kimi takes to the track
August 1st, 2008 at 09:43 #123 - Alianora La Canta said:
Junior, every driver brings a sidekick with him. That’s what managers are there for.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:44 #124 - Christine said:
With 46 mintues to go? I was sooo right
August 1st, 2008 at 09:44 #125 - me said:
exactly half way through the session and things finally get going. assuming kimi gets on with it as usual,
August 1st, 2008 at 09:44 #126 - lou said:
trulli goes fastest
August 1st, 2008 at 09:44 #127 - me said:
pah! grumble
August 1st, 2008 at 09:45 #128 - me said:
with a 1:23? button’s 1:29 is looking positively shambolic
August 1st, 2008 at 09:45 #129 - Christine said:
Re Trulli:
The Italian then spins at turn one commencing the following lap, losing the rear end of the Toyota mid-corner. He rejoins without problem and continues.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:46 #130 - me said:
kimi puts himself into the lofty heights of 8th place.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:46 #131 - Christine said:
Apparently they’re not running the shark fin?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:46 #132 - Alianora La Canta said:
Jarno must have been overexcited by his brilliant P1.
Raikkonen’s first time, being six seconds slower than Jarno’s is nothing to write home about. His second time, in purples, may well be.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:47 #133 - lou said:
August 1st, 2008 at 09:47 #134 - Alianora La Canta said:
And Raikkonen’s second time is something to write home about
August 1st, 2008 at 09:47 #135 - me said:
a 1:22.0 already an improvement on last year’s best.
good stuff.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:48 #136 - LadySnowcat said:
Kimi already quicker than the fastest Friday lap 2007….
Interesting….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:48 #137 - lou said:
even sutil is faster than the hondas
August 1st, 2008 at 09:48 #138 - Alianora La Canta said:
The ITV connection has dropped properly – grr!
August 1st, 2008 at 09:49 #139 - me said:
tv pics showing a honda mechanic who’s clearly a fan of “flock of seagulls”
http://www.montykins.com/mkins/images/oldmikescore.jpg
August 1st, 2008 at 09:49 #140 - lou said:
erm…. has anyone elses itv feed turned itself off?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:49 #141 - lou said:
ooo we back
August 1st, 2008 at 09:49 #142 - Flibster said:
Looks like the monkeys have plugged it back in now.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:49 #143 - lou said:
i meant it’s back. sorry doing 2 things at once
August 1st, 2008 at 09:50 #144 - me said:
haven’t seen it yet. there was one in the garage, maybe then need a benchmark first?
hehehe
August 1st, 2008 at 09:50 #145 - Flibster said:
That echo is so annoying…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:50 #146 - Alianora La Canta said:
Hurrah – it’s come back on. But you don’t expect to lose 8 seconds or so in the middle of the exciting bit.
Nakajima is commenting on the wind quite calmly, but is adjusting his car to take it into account. Not the calm conditions I’d anticipated.
Vettel is in some sort of trouble.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:50 #147 - me said:
echo?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:51 #148 - LadySnowcat said:
I guess that the comparison of Kimi and Massa will determine whether they use the fin or not….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:51 #149 - me said:
the wind speed is all over the place at the moment.
at least the direction is consistent.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:51 #150 - lou said:
what happened to Vettel?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:51 #151 - LadySnowcat said:
Vettel stopped…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:52 #152 - me said:
ahh, massa has the fin?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:52 #153 - Christine said:
“Vettel seemed to run into problems at the bottom of the hill approaching turn four. He immediately pulled off the track to the inside and parked on the grass.”
August 1st, 2008 at 09:52 #154 - LadySnowcat said:
Kimi in….
August 1st, 2008 at 09:53 #155 - lou said:
thanks christine
August 1st, 2008 at 09:53 #156 - me said:
his teammate has the better of him thus far.
actually bourdais is doing okay this morning.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:53 #157 - Flibster said:
I’ve got a real annoying repeat of the sound about 1/2 second after the initial output. Driving me mental!
Yup – his team-mate :p
August 1st, 2008 at 09:54 #158 - me said:
ahh, right, i don’t seem to have that.
aside from the two honda’s, sutil is struggling out there. fissi is over a second quicker than him.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:54 #159 - Alianora La Canta said:
Rosberg reporting extremely low grip.
Ferrari shouldn’t have one car with and one without the fin. I thought that was against the rules…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:55 #160 - me said:
both mclaren’s join the fun. lewis pops into 5th.
tv pics showing trulli’s spin.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:56 #161 - Christine said:
Really? Do the cars have to be the same?
August 1st, 2008 at 09:56 #162 - Alianora La Canta said:
Trulli does some nice spins on the run-off area for the crowd, though I doubt that was his intention…
August 1st, 2008 at 09:56 #163 - me said:
no that’s fine. they ran different rear wing configurations earlier in the year too (bahrain maybe?).
August 1st, 2008 at 09:57 #164 - me said:
alonso leaves his garage, leaving dc as the last man to complete a full lap.
August 1st, 2008 at 09:58 #165 - Alianora La Canta said:
If there were big differences inside, that wouldn’t be a problem, but surely having one with and one without a fin would be breaking the livery rules, if nothing else?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:00 #166 - z-baumgartner said:
Barcelona!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:00 #167 - me said:
not sure. i remember we looked into it before, because they had totally different rear wing configurations in the race. one was curved and the other flat.
i think the conclusion was it’s fine to do that. the liveries the same isn’t it, just a different surface area to cover?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:00 #168 - me said:
kudos to mr. baumgartner!
thank you
August 1st, 2008 at 10:01 #169 - Alianora La Canta said:
Hamilton does a purple sector 2, while we get to see Vettel parking his car.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:01 #170 - LadySnowcat said:
Don’t forget that Ferrari may well both have the fin for the race, or indeed both may leave it off…
This may decide it….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:01 #171 - me said:
heikki the first man into the 1:21’s.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:02 #172 - Rocket said:
Late greetings one and all from a very cold and windy SE Australia. Tim O’Glock seems to have recovered well.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:02 #173 - z-baumgartner said:
No problem. I remember getting a shout out in the podcast for that one!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:02 #174 - me said:
hey ya.
the boys doing good isn’t he? worried about dc now (although he’s just joined the action).
August 1st, 2008 at 10:04 #175 - Alianora La Canta said:
That said, there isn’t a rule specifically banning Ferrari’s behaviour today (though the livery rule might be broken). The problem comes if they decide to change either car. The car that is scrutineered is supposed to substantially be the car that races. You can change some winglets around just fine, but something as big as a fin wouldn’t be easy to get within the parc fermé rule.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:04 #176 - LadySnowcat said:
Lewis consistently matched in the first sector, went faster in the second but slower in the third…
Sandbagging?…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:04 #177 - me said:
fastest times through the speed trap (main straight):
kov: 294
ham: 293
rai: 293
August 1st, 2008 at 10:05 #178 - me said:
he currently has holds the fastest time in s3 though? messing around with something maybe.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:05 #179 - LadySnowcat said:
Kimi didn’t use the fin in Jerez… perhaps he doesn’t want to….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:06 #180 - Alianora La Canta said:
Trulli is complaining that his car doesn’t feel good because there’s no grip and it keeps bottoming out.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:06 #181 - me said:
needs to have a chat with glock asap.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:06 #182 - LadySnowcat said:
No he wasn’t fastest in sector 3…
Lewis that is…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:07 #183 - lou said:
yay button up to tenth.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:07 #184 - me said:
sutil now the only man not able to break into the 1:24’s. both williams are behind fissi and none of those have caught to the stopped vettel.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:08 #185 - z-baumgartner said:
I just updated by fantasy racers team. It’s now Sutil, Massa ,Kovalainen and Trulli.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:08 #186 - me said:
no no. i understand ya, he just is the fastest man in that sector thus far today (according to live timing anyhow).
August 1st, 2008 at 10:08 #187 - z-baumgartner said:
Whoops!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:09 #188 - me said:
ooooooooh. i forgot
must do in 20mins. thanx.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:09 #189 - Junior said:
Williams cars are not doing very well. 18 and 19th
August 1st, 2008 at 10:10 #190 - Christine said:
I haven’t done my reminder yet. Planned to do in between sessions.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:10 #191 - me said:
ahh, in that case you’re forgiven.
never doubted you for a second, honest.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:11 #192 - lou said:
yep so did i. thanks for the reminder z-baumgartner
August 1st, 2008 at 10:11 #193 - LadySnowcat said:
Heikki was certainly faster but we’ll only be able to tell later….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:11 #194 - Christine said:
I guess there’s not much point now though!!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:11 #195 - Alex Andronov said:
echo?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #196 - Alex Andronov said:
sorry.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #197 - Alianora La Canta said:
We haven’t got to update until 5pm GMT, which is in 7 hours’ time…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #198 - me said:
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #199 - LadySnowcat said:
Lewis has consistently been very quick in that middle sector…
No it’s Massa… but Kimi set his fastest mid sector then dived in…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #200 - Rocket said:
What was with DC? He seems to have put in a good one but took ages to get out there. Have they decided to run him on an even older engine?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 #201 - me said:
no please do. i like to know who you’ve gone with first.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:15 #202 - z-baumgartner said:
Is dc bouncing more than usual?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:15 #203 - Alianora La Canta said:
Kubica’s happy with the balance on his car, and is simply a bit concerned about how the graining will affect balance. That’s good.
I’m reading “Race To Win” by Derek Daly at the moment, and he comments that Robert, despite being a rookie at the time of writing, already had a reputation for excellent technical feedback.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:16 #204 - z-baumgartner said:
A collage of shark fins!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:17 #205 - Alex Andronov said:
I have to say, this live comments thingamagigger works really well.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:17 #206 - Flibster said:
And none of them look good…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:17 #207 - Christine said:
You know the Live Timing fastest sector speed thing. It has the three sectors and then trap – where is that?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:17 #208 - LadySnowcat said:
Either Lewis is sandbagging in the final sector or his really quick mid sector is compromising his final sector….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:18 #209 - Rocket said:
Can anyone comment on my deduction that the senior Red Bull team will like this track as they have been talking about how they are no good in a straight line (not enough le power) nor on slow corners. But are good on medium speed corners. Isn’t that what the Hungaroring is all about? I try to see the world simply.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:18 #210 - Alex Andronov said:
Now I’m worried I have the wrong number of “g”s in thingamagigger.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:18 #211 - Christine said:
No, I think that’s right.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:19 #212 - me said:
fyi: renault have named the staff member involved in wednesday’s incident as “william millar, who worked in the outfit’s r&d dept”:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69549
August 1st, 2008 at 10:20 #213 - LadySnowcat said:
Hmmm…
Shark fins all round?….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:20 #214 - me said:
yay. any probs just yell and i’ll get to it before fp2 (or try at least).
August 1st, 2008 at 10:21 #215 - Alianora La Canta said:
Sutil’s not last any more
August 1st, 2008 at 10:21 #216 - LadySnowcat said:
I know that the D part of Renault’s R&D has been poor but this is a bit extreme…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:21 #217 - Christine said:
I’m always impressed how quickly they can bolt on the extra bits and pieces to the car.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:21 #218 - Alex Andronov said:
Well everything seems good except that you can’t drag everything around like you can on the BBC homepage
August 1st, 2008 at 10:22 #219 - me said:
hehe, that’s the best way rocket.
on paper it should suit but they’re not doing especially well at the moment. bourdais is impressing still though.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:23 #220 - me said:
jeez what’s up with williams? no offence to sutil obviously.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:23 #221 - me said:
August 1st, 2008 at 10:24 #222 - Alianora La Canta said:
The correct spelling is thingamajigger.
Poor William Millar
August 1st, 2008 at 10:25 #223 - me said:
you know the plus side to the itv delay is practice will go on for an extra 10 mins.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:25 #224 - z-baumgartner said:
Had to go to BBC to see!
Great picture of Heikki here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7534925.stm
August 1st, 2008 at 10:25 #225 - Rocket said:
I have made a small wager on Monsieur Bourdais finishing in the top 8. Are we aloud to talk about gambling here?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:25 #226 - Christine said:
Button and Fisichella are in a battle to be the hardest working man this morning. Fisichella just edging ahead 24 laps to 23.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:26 #227 - Alianora La Canta said:
That is strange. I’m just not used to seeing Williams as the new Minardi – I thought Force India was meant to have that role most of the time this year (no offence to them either, just economic reality).
August 1st, 2008 at 10:26 #228 - Le BOL said:
Hey, guys, I’m like in a public library, using their ancient internet and I can’t figure out what was that website where you can see pics from FP – raikkonen.tv.uk bla-bla-bla or something, help!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:26 #229 - me said:
i think so. i don’t know anything about gambling though, how much is a small wager?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:26 #230 - Alianora La Canta said:
Just as I typed that, Rosberg and Nakajima posted faster times than Sutil and also passed Vettel.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:27 #231 - z-baumgartner said:
Some poor creature must have been impaled on the toyota shark fin. It’s all blood
August 1st, 2008 at 10:27 #232 - me said:
well, sutil is now last again. but you’re right, they’re much farther back than expected, and toyota surprisingly are walking all over them.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:27 #233 - Alianora La Canta said:
Bourdais’ car is rolling around on the beads of graining, while Rosberg’s Williams is being prepped ready for the run where he manages to get 16th between Webber and Fisichella.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 #234 - SteveintheUK said:
and thats good for me then as it’s going to be the onlt part of FP1 that Im back in time to see.
OH, Hi everybody
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 #235 - Le BOL said:
Although it looks like FP1 is over…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 #236 - Christine said:
Is Heidfeld struggling or is it just his traditional slowness that will see him end up fourth in the race?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 #237 - me said:
it was:
http://stream.ra1kkonen.com/
but appears to have gone awol
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 #238 - Rocket said:
Umm, 5 of my colonial dollars (which equals about 2 quid)
August 1st, 2008 at 10:29 #239 - LadySnowcat said:
It’s going to take Kimi a while to dial in the new fin….
This won’t be good for his chances….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:29 #240 - lou said:
hey steveintheUK
August 1st, 2008 at 10:29 #241 - Alianora La Canta said:
How come Vettel’s recorded as having made it back to the pits?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:30 #242 - me said:
very good question? if he pulled to the side of the track and found a truck, and if there’s a tunnel under the circuit, they can get him back.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:30 #243 - SteveintheUK said:
So what have I missed??? apart from a redesign of the new Live Commenting page
August 1st, 2008 at 10:30 #244 - Le BOL said:
oops, sleepy this morning, it’s not over.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:31 #245 - me said:
purple s3
ahh, well that’s not a lot to loose then
August 1st, 2008 at 10:31 #246 - lou said:
Vettel pulled off the track… massa is running the avril wing but kimi isn’t…. williams seem to be struggling
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #247 - Alianora La Canta said:
Hello, SteveintheUK.
Looks like the Force Indias will be slowest after all.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #248 - LadySnowcat said:
Definitely fins all round….
If Kimi can get that much improvement the first time he tries out the thing it’s got to be a go with it….
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #249 - Christine said:
Fisichella won the battle and recorded 28 laps, whilst Coulthard posted the least (aside from Vettel) doing just 16.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #250 - SteveintheUK said:
OK, so I know I’m being lazy, but what time does FP2 start? UK time please. Thanks
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #251 - Christine said:
1pm.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #252 - LadySnowcat said:
I still think Lewis is sandbagging…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:32 #253 - Le BOL said:
Fantastic, public library computer now says: “You have tried to access a web page which is in violation of your internet usage policy. URL: stream.ra1kkonen.com/ Category: Pornography.”
I beg your pardon? Gotta talk to the manager of this place, maybe he links F1 to Mosley adventures?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:33 #254 - me said:
a ferrari one two then, followed by a macca three four.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:34 #255 - Alianora La Canta said:
Le BOL, that is droll!
You can’t access that sort of stream in my local library service, but that’s because we have a somewhat sluggish connection – nothing to do with Mr Mosley.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:35 #256 - SteveintheUK said:
Thanks… but isn’t that the only thing that we don’t need your fantastic spreadsheet to work out for us.
Who does it have in the top 3 quail places so far then? or is it a little early for that?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:35 #257 - Rocket said:
Hmmm, MW as usual seemed to leave it very late.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:37 #258 - me said:
righto then, the first 45mins were poor, but the last 45mins more than made up for it.
we’ll be back at 12:30pm we a brand new thread. please let us know if there’s anything we can change with live commenting.
it feels okay to me, and the server’s actually under less strain than usual. i only wish we did it sooner!
cheers everyone
August 1st, 2008 at 10:39 #259 - SteveintheUK said:
Thanks Christine, I should be around for FP2 then, no plans to go out until around 4pm, but then I hadn’t planned on going out this morning either.
So is Kimi going to be using the fin wing in FP2 as it’s only an engine cover swap?
August 1st, 2008 at 10:40 #260 - lou said:
if you’re not around dm me and i will keep you up to date
August 1st, 2008 at 10:40 #261 - Alianora La Canta said:
SteveintheUK, for most of the session the Force Indias were beating the Williamses. Hence why I thought they wouldn’t be the slowest this time around.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:41 #262 - Le BOL said:
I guess so, I was joking anyway; don’t forget that I’m in Portugal right now so I think public libraries are supposed to operate differently in different EU countries.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:41 #263 - SteveintheUK said:
Cheers Lou
August 1st, 2008 at 10:41 #264 - lou said:
no problem
August 1st, 2008 at 10:42 #265 - SteveintheUK said:
WOW, I saw Wiliam’s where having problems but that has got to be some major issue for Force India to be beating them.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:43 #266 - lou said:
well i hope itv sort out their feed for FP2. it’s no fun watching what happened ten mins ago
August 1st, 2008 at 10:43 #267 - Le BOL said:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/f1pornoinferno
August 1st, 2008 at 10:44 #268 - SteveintheUK said:
It is if it’s the ONLY ten mins you got to see. Although not much really happened in that last ten mins.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:44 #269 - Le BOL said:
OK, I’ll see if I can join in from my home laptop for FP2, cheers, have a nice day…
August 1st, 2008 at 10:45 #270 - Alianora La Canta said:
Public libraries do operate differently in different countries, Le BOL. In the UK, they all have what’s known as the “People’s Network” giving them internet access. Jaw-droppingly quick when introduced in 1999, but no money for upgrades – they didn’t even budget for mouse replacements!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:45 #271 - lou said:
right i’m off to put the flowers i have been sent into some water.
speak to you all later.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:46 #272 - SteveintheUK said:
WOW the slowest William’s was only 0.08th of a second faster than the Forca India cars, and both where over 2.3secs of the pace. The William teams and it’s drivers have a lot pf work to do this weekend.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:47 #273 - me said:
trust me, a lot more happened in the last ten than the first ten
August 1st, 2008 at 10:51 #274 - Alianora La Canta said:
Nice one lou
SteveintheUK and me, both of you are absolutely right.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:53 #275 - Christine said:
Fantasy Racers reminder is done:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/08/01/take-a-look-at-yourself-and-then-make-a-change/
August 1st, 2008 at 11:22 #276 - me said:
final times for fp1:
August 1st, 2008 at 11:49 #277 - Christine said:
Apparently Glock has a new helmet livery – did anyone notice?
August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 #278 - pmtate said:
Auto refresh on live commenting was great, but by the end of the 90 minute session my laptop (Vista 2ghz 2gb) was running like a snail and only speeded up again when I closed ie7.
Will keep an eye on it in FP2
Anyone else have similar problems?
Paul
August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 #279 - lou said:
i noticed his helmet, it’s kinda flames on it i think. But i didn’t realise it was his new helmet… i can’t even remember what his old helmet livery was. was it just white and red?
there is a pic of his helmet in the f1.com gallery.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:03 #280 - Stuart C said:
Yes, I noticed Timo’s helmet was different but it’s mainly detail changes around the sides and rear. It’s the same colour on top.
I’ll try to get a photo later. I went into the pits for half an hour or so in FP1, but I was mainly hanging out at the pit exit experimenting with slow shutter speeds.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:05 #281 - Steven Roy said:
http://www.toyota-f1.com/public/en/team/driver/glock_helmet.html
I can’t remember the old one but this looks new.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:07 #282 - Stuart C said:
In other news, looks like Santander is going to be on the Ferrari as well as the McLaren…
August 1st, 2008 at 12:08 #283 - lou said:
ah so it wasn’t flames i saw, it was the german flag. Wouldn’t it have made more sence to use it first in germany?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:12 #284 - Steven Roy said:
Looks like Santander want to take over the world. McLaren, Ferrari, several GPs, on track advertising, Senna in GP2. I wonder if this means Alonso is at Ferrari next season. I guess if Repsol announce they will be at Ferrari as well the cat will be out of the bag.
I put a pic of Glock’s helmet in drop.io. It was ncked from the Toyota site.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:13 #285 - Christine said:
Ooh, I quite like that. Makes Trulli’s look really dull.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:14 #286 - me said:
wow, they must seriously rate f1 as a marketing tool. i guess max hasn’t done that much damage after all?
it conveniently solves the hamilton / alonso dilemma too.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:14 #287 - Jeremy said:
Time to get a Mac !! :-p
August 1st, 2008 at 12:17 #288 - me said:
cheers paul. i didn’t have any issues on my machine though…
quite
i’m not sure sure that owning a mac should be necessary just to take part in live commenting mind you?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:23 #289 - Lynch said:
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Lydden_Hill
There’s the link to the track info “me” I was correct in thinking that (McLaren / Ron) (does / did) own the track… but not sure whether it had anything to do with Schumi or not who knows?!
Yes, it should be for quality control! Don’t want any Riff Raff!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:30 #290 - me said:
August 1st, 2008 at 12:35 #291 - Steven Roy said:
Track history and ownership from the track’s own website. When I see Lydden Hill I still think rallycross.