Live Commenting: Hungary - Free Practice 3
There were worrying noises coming from the paddock after yesterday’s practice sessions. One of those was a confident sounding Lewis Hamilton and the other was a relatively negative Kimi Räikkönen. It could of course be little more than gamesmanship on the part of this weekend’s two lead actors, or we could be looking at a McLaren front row lock-out this afternoon. Before we get there though, one final sixty minute practice session beckons.
Coulthard is now running his engine for a third race, while Force India have been forced to go back to their non-seamless-shift gearbox, in order that they don’t incur unnecessary penalties. Sebastian Vettel must be wondering what in the world he has to do to get through a whole practice session, and he’ll have his work cut out today playing catch up to his teammate. No doubt Germany feels like a lifetime ago.
Marginally ahead of Vettel we have a struggling Honda team, who’ve yet to get the best from their revised aero package and suspension. Their times yesterday were never comparable to the mid-field runners, and although they can bank on Force India losing two-tenths along with the gearbox, they must be concerned about missing the Q2 cut-off later today.
FP3 always sees us scouting for decent video coverage, and yesterday there appeared to be less around than usual. If you spot anything worth watching please let us know, otherwise it’s live timing or bust this morning.
The live commenting system is open to all and after yesterday success, we’re recommending it. Yell if you’re following the action this morning, won’t you?
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 amme said:
improvements to live commenting are thus:
- follow comments enabled by default
- fixed the window “jumping” problem (when no new comments found)
still working on the IE7 “initial post” issue. if you sport any issues as a result of these changes, or anything else, please yell.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 amAlex Andronov said:
Changed to Safari on the Mac today… And a smaller resolution.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 amChristine said:
Hello, I’m here
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:35 amme said:
ahh, a good choice.
howdy
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:35 amAlex Andronov said:
Hello, and good morning to everyone!
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 amChristine said:
Have any plans for watching video of this session?
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 amAlex Andronov said:
Having just watched the Live Comments on the recording of the inside track I can see now Christine why you prefer talking to Me on IM during the race! He does do that multi-tasking pause thing that most men (myself included) do when trying to talk and read at the same time. Where… words… come… out… so… slowly… that… you… have to give up.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 amChristine said:
Haha, yes, it gets painful sometimes
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 amAlex Andronov said:
I wondered about justin.tv
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 amAlex Andronov said:
See the thing is that if you type “f1 free practice hungary” into google all you get is some site about sidepodcasts
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 amChristine said:
Yea, it’s annoying, isn’t it?
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 amme said:
someone gotta teach those kids a lesson.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 amme said:
erm, guilty. mind you, you should see my typing sometimes.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 amAnthony said:
Morning All,
How’s everyone today ?
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 amme said:
he ya anthony, all is well except we’re sans-video at present.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 amme said:
radio 5 live don’t appear to be covering this session either.
not sure they’ve turned up to the track this weekend
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 amChristine said:
All I can find at the moment is TV Lizer, but I’m only getting the French commentary, and not the pictures.
We established yesterday that my language skills aren’t up to scratch, so… I guess I’ll keep searching.
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 amme said:
http://www.justin.tv/widgets/jtv_live.r8448.swf?channel=koncerto
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 amRocket said:
Hi guys. Anyone know of video feeds that are working outside the UK today? I was just explaining to Mrs Rocket that in Europe you get to watch all the practices and whatnot on television. She was amazed. Here in Australia F1 is just another car race.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 amme said:
3 cars join the action as nico does a radio check.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 amRocket said:
Oh…thanks. Should be a little more patient.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 amme said:
before 2 mins of the session are over, 14 cars are out there.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 amLadySnowcat said:
5Live Extra are at the cricket this weekend…
Can’t think why…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 amAlex Andronov said:
That justin.tv one is working well for me. Thanks me.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 amRocket said:
McLaren with a prob?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:03 amme said:
turkish, i think?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 amlou said:
Hey everyone
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 amme said:
morning lou.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 amAlex Andronov said:
Well the flag looks Turkish. My friendly linguist says that it doesn’t sound like Turkish though.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 amme said:
4 cars remained in their garages. x2 ferrari’s and x2 honda’s.
everyone else returns after their sighter laps.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amme said:
we’ll have to listen and see which driver they favour
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amChristine said:
I’ve heard them mention Kubica a couple of times.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amRocket said:
Maybe Russian or Polish perhaps?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amAlex Andronov said:
They’ve mentioned Robert a few times.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amLadySnowcat said:
I see we’ve got the Ferrari and “previously Ferrari” thing going on again…
No installation laps for Ross….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 amRocket said:
Hmmm, I heard Bardzo…this means very in Polish. I stand to be corrected.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 amAlex Andronov said:
“More like polish” she says. Not Russian.
Otherwise we might have managed a simultaneous translation.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 amme said:
in their current position, can ross afford to be playing ferrari at their own game?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 amRocket said:
Bardzo dobrze = Very good.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 amAlianora La Canta said:
Hello. Does this mean I haven’t missed the session yet?!?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 amAlex Andronov said:
It’s only just started
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 amme said:
fissi and sutil appear to be running identical programs.
both putting in similar sectors times and following each other around the track.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 amlou said:
I typed in ‘koncerto’ into google translate, and i got this message-
We are not yet able to translate from Slovak into English.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 amme said:
hi ya. not much happening thus far.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 amChristine said:
Do all the cars have the Hai-Flosse now?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 amAlex Andronov said:
When Sutil is the fastest man on the track you know you haven’t missed much.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 amLadySnowcat said:
Honda are surely “concentrating on next year”…..
Again…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 amme said:
umm, not:
- mclaren
- bmw
- williams
although all have tested in one form or another. anyone else?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 amAlex Andronov said:
Hai-Flosse?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amlou said:
it’s the german for shark fin.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amme said:
maybe. but why bring a new suspension here if they are?
unless they’ve brought next years rear end?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amAlianora La Canta said:
True, Alex. Though Nelson is 29 seconds slower than Adrian, apparently - what went wrong for him?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amAlex Andronov said:
Ah! Thanks Lou. I must have missed that somewhere along the line.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 amAlex Andronov said:
Kimi fastest.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 amme said:
bourdais making the most of yesterday’s experience, keeping him ahead of vettel by 2 tenths.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 amLadySnowcat said:
Kimi’s first time was, I think, the same as one of his quick laps yesterday….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 amme said:
last year’s fastest fp3 time was 1:20.1
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 amRocket said:
Le Seb just hangs on!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 amAlianora La Canta said:
Alonso’s just put in a 1:47 (Piquet’s still on a 1:52, with everyone else in 1:22 or 1:23). What’s up with Renualt?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 amlou said:
From what I read yesterday, this is their final upgrade. Apparently the car is feeling better, but they are still getting used to the new parts and finding the best set up for the car. I think i read they were struggleing a bit with the handling…. basically they have a lot of work to do!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 amLadySnowcat said:
Vettel still on track I see….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 amme said:
one of them touring slowly on the tv pics.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 amme said:
sitting in the garage isn’t going to get that done. rubens on track now.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 amAlex Andronov said:
Are they talking about Bruno Senna going to Torro Rosso? Presumably just speculation.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 amlou said:
Christine did the translations yesterday during free practise
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 amme said:
alonso pits again.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 amSteveintheUK said:
Hi All
Sorry for being late…again, I really need to work out these European times.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 amme said:
mmm. well berger is close friends with little senna. so it’s not out of the question. they have at least one free seat, maybe two.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 amAlianora La Canta said:
Vettel goes fastest! Where did that come from?!?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 amme said:
oops. we gotta make the times more clear. i’ll add it to our list(s).
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 amlou said:
Hey SteveintheUK
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 amAlex Andronov said:
He is a quick lad. But considering his lack of track time yesterday that IS impressive.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 amAlianora La Canta said:
It’s OK, Steve - I thought with the shopping expedition I went on, that I’d missed practise altogether and therefore sauntered onto here instead of rushing…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 amme said:
making up for lost time.
button also on track. no installation lap for him.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:22 amChristine said:
Did the track get dusty again overnight, or what? Only half the field seem to want to brave the tarmac.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:22 amlou said:
er… i think i may be missing something, the reanults are very slow. 1:49?! and 8 laps… I’m a little confused.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:22 amChristine said:
Are both the Ferrari boys running the Hai-Flosse today? Raikkonen must have decided that it’s okay after all.
It’s much higher than the other team’s though, seems like more of an eyesore.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 amAlex Andronov said:
Jenson has twice this season had the chance to run his sub optimal tyre for one lap only. I wonder if he needs to save more tyres than normal to make it work?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 amAlianora La Canta said:
Why is Massa 10 seconds off the pace?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 amAlex Andronov said:
Le Seb losing the rear in turn 4
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 amSteveintheUK said:
I may have to strat resorting to getting Lou to dm me a Tweet half hour before the sessions starts. I can never remember if I have looked up the UK time or the local race time so keep missing things.
Hi Lou, are you busy about half hour before the start of the next session?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 amAlex Andronov said:
he says the track is improving.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 amme said:
bourdais saying “in t4 lost the rear twice”, also “traction isn’t great but the track is improving”.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 amAlianora La Canta said:
The Renaults keep coming out, having an extremely slow lap and go back in. Presumably they both have a major problem that is proving difficult to fix. I worry that it’s either engine or gearbox trouble.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amSteveintheUK said:
I have my whole weekend planned around working outside on my old Landrover and watching F1 and I still keep missing it.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amAlianora La Canta said:
Hamilton goes fastest, and Kovalainen goes second. Super times. And Hamilton’s still turning purple…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amLadySnowcat said:
As expected the dark force looks to have the race in the bag….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amlou said:
lol
not a problem.
nope, just gonna be putting photos onto flickr.
shall i dm you 1/2 hour before quali?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amme said:
speed trap at the half way mark:
- kov: 292kph
- ham: 291kph
- bou: 290kph
the str’s have great top speed don’t they?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 amAlex Andronov said:
Lewis goes fastest. Kovi behind him
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 amChristine said:
You would have thought Vettel would be out there pounding the laps in regardless of the track conditions.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 amLadySnowcat said:
A 1:2 for Macca looks pretty inevitable unless they explode….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 amSteveintheUK said:
Join the club Lou, even on wets with a full fuel load they shouldn’t be THAT slow.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 amAlianora La Canta said:
Autosport theorises that the Renaults are doing some very careful scrubbing-in of tyres to combat graining.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 amAlex Andronov said:
I think i just had a lag problem with the live commenting? I could be wrong.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 amme said:
two cars pass a renault on the main straight as sutil goes wide.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 amLadySnowcat said:
The Renaults were on low fuel yesterday… Pat has admitted as much….
I think they are doing race simulations today…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 amAlianora La Canta said:
Why are McLaren the dark force?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amRocket said:
RBR seem to be a little quicker (or on parity) in the first sector today.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amme said:
oooh, wow. that’s clever…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amSteveintheUK said:
I think he just uses them enough to rub the releasing agent from the mould off and check the tyres are balance and matched so when he needs them he knows they are ready.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amme said:
pls yell if it happens again.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amLadySnowcat said:
Autosport reckon that Renault are curing the tyres….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 amAlianora La Canta said:
Sutil’s gone wide.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 amChristine said:
Finally, just over halfway through the session, everyone has set a time.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 amLadySnowcat said:
The radio has Lewis making good gains in the last sector in comparison to yesterday….
That was something I noticed yesterday and didn’t know if they were sandbagging or actually slower in the last sector….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 amAlianora La Canta said:
Lots of people are doing personal bests in the first two sectors, but third sector still seems slow.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 amSteveintheUK said:
Yes please Lou, I’m outside and have no power out there, Thanks
Have we worked out whats going on with Renault yet?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 amlou said:
I wonder whats up with Kimi. 7th fastest. He should be faster than that.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amme said:
if autosport are correct and they are curing their tyres, doesn’t that constitute dangerous driving? they’re the worst kind of mobile chicane.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amRocket said:
Or it’s the worst case of sandbagging ever!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amLadySnowcat said:
Gosh a lot of my friends call them that… as in the dark side or force for evil….
I thought it was a general term….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amSteveintheUK said:
Sorry Lou, is that more Goodwood FOS photos that you are putting up? I’m still waiting for ‘me‘ to post the 100 photos of VBH online for me to see.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amlou said:
ok
do you want a dm 1/2 before the itv coverage, or 1/2 before quali actually starts?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amAlex Andronov said:
I’m having a different problem…
I’m now getting told that I need to add a comment. When I have. I have put the error message into drop.io
I have added this comment the old way.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amlou said:
nope, pics from the british motor show.
i went on thursday 
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amSteveintheUK said:
Are they running new engines this weekend or are they on there 2nd race?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amChristine said:
Ah, see the problem is, I was the one doing the uploading to Flickr, so there are only a few.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/sets/72157606393839460/
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amme said:
i did have an issue yesterday where it was confused by funny quote marks. i’ll check you’re upload, soz.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amLadySnowcat said:
Kimi doing shortish runs and diving back in… he’s not a happy bunny….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amRocket said:
Hmmm, I have just noticed the ripple strips at this track. It may be the aspect ratio of the web feed but they look like cliffs!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amAlianora La Canta said:
Renault’s about to return to normal running!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amLadySnowcat said:
They are on the same as Kimi so new engines I think….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amAlex Andronov said:
See Christine… He’s under pressure with this new system.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amlou said:
If autosport are wrong and Renault are really this slow, this will play into Hondas hands
they may get out of Q1 (yes, i’m clutching at straws 
)
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amSteveintheUK said:
Renault are finally doing some fast laps
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 amRocket said:
At the risk of being lewd….Does anyone else reckon that the Hungaroring looks like a ……?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 amRocket said:
Sorry….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 amme said:
webber looks to be struggling at the moment. in the pits and 15th, his teammate currently 8th.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 amRich said:
I guess with Alonso getting into the 1:21’s just Renault were trying some sort of strategy with their tyres.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 amAlianora La Canta said:
Both McLarens have new engines. Hamilton is on the fourth race of his gearbox, while Kovalainen is on race three of his.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 amlou said:
damn. i ahve webber in my fantasy racers… :/
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 amSteven Roy said:
Morning all I made it at last.
Nice to see Vettel has managed to get into double figures in this session but Bourdais in P4?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amme said:
and nico in 2nd
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amlou said:
wow Piquet 5th. thats some jump.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amAlex Andronov said:
Morning Stephen Roy
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amSteven Roy said:
Hey ‘me’ you have sorted my first comment problem
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amlou said:
piquet 2nd?!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amSteveintheUK said:
I can sort of understand them going that slow for two or three laps, but 12. What’s benefit could that possible be? unless they have a really dodgy set of tyres this weekend?
Guess we will have to wait till the end of the race to see if Renault end up miles ahead of everybody else after the other drivers tyres go off.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amRocket said:
Piquet goes 2nd!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amAlex Andronov said:
ps. looks like it was just that comment.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amlou said:
morning Steven
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amAlianora La Canta said:
Piquet’s in second? I knew the Renaults had been slow, but not to that extent!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amSteven Roy said:
I guess Renault have the same problem Bourdais was complaining about and they are scrubbing all their tyres for tomorrow
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amLadySnowcat said:
Massa getting a bit of speed from the softer tyres….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amme said:
think it was the ampersand alex. will sort for qually.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amSteveintheUK said:
before quali actually starts, Please it’s to early in the weekend to deal with to much ITV, Thanks Lou
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amme said:
nope, everything but at the moment. haven’t forgotten ya though.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amlou said:
I just got a message saying
you posted your comment too quickly, slow down.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amLadySnowcat said:
Interestingly Massa hasn’t been out on the prime tyre yet….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 amAlex Andronov said:
and I thought I was being stupid
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 amLadySnowcat said:
The Maccas have only been on the hard…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 amlou said:
lol ok
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 amAlex Andronov said:
the ampersand is the problem. I just tested it.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 amme said:
blimey. we can adjust that threshold, so just yell if it happens too often.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 amSteven Roy said:
I didn’t get the problem this morning so something has changed
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 amSteveintheUK said:
Cool, I’ll have a look at those once it gets dark outside. My old girl has her MOT in a couple of weeks and I just drove over a log and put a big hole in the chassis, so have to get rid of all the rust and make a new piece to weld on later in the week.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 amlou said:
i did
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 amme said:
fixed a few other things. wonder if it sorted that too?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 amLadySnowcat said:
I have difficulty thinking that Nico’s time is representative…
But you never know….
Or perhaps and unfortunately we do….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amRocket said:
Webber moves up to 7th!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amAlex Andronov said:
Unfortunately. I must be off. See you all in time for Quali.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amSteven Roy said:
Nico wants to stiffen his front anti-roll bar one step
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amlou said:
oh dear Quick Nick not so quick
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amme said:
here’s hoping they’ve found some pace, bout time they had a decent weekend.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amRocket said:
Bourdais seems to have his balance problems sorted…flying!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amSteven Roy said:
Bye Alex
I just got the same message Lou got about posting too quickly
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amLadySnowcat said:
The Toro Rossos look handy but I think that is low fuel flattery…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amme said:
cheers alex.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amlou said:
wow fastest S1 for Bourdais.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amme said:
okay. will be fixed in 15 mins
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amSteveintheUK said:
I’ve seem that only important one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/2705843585/in/set-72157606393839460/
You could always put them up on Drop.io, but you have a Flickr Pro account so should easily be able to post 100 photos on they, even of VBH.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amChristine said:
Presumably, BMW are just trying something and aren’t really slow enough to be mixing it with the Hondas.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amSteven Roy said:
Bourdais purple S1
Amazing the change in that car since Gerhard took it out for a run
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amme said:
i’ll sneak some in later.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amLadySnowcat said:
Kimi still on hard tyres…
He’s done three runs on the prime and Massa 2 on the option….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amme said:
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amChristine said:
Hmm, if you’re super nice to me I might put some more into drop.io.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amLadySnowcat said:
Kimi in again….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 amScott Woodwiss said:
Good morning peeps! Just got back from my holiday in Southwold. I trust everyone is well. So nice to be back on the internet
And in time for qualifying too! 
So, anything major happen while I’ve been away that I should know?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 amSteveintheUK said:
That’s Funny
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 amlou said:
Morning Scott.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 amSteven Roy said:
Christine,
BMW seemed to cruise round for most of yesterday as well. Nick’s fastest lap at the end of the session was 6 tenths faste than any other lap in the whole session
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 amlou said:
I love that camera angle.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 amRich said:
I hope the STRs can keep this relative pace to the others in qualification and in the race itself.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 amChristine said:
The only major thing you have missed is that we’ve christened the McLaren front winglets Panda-Ohr.
Welcome back
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 amlou said:
woo button 12th
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 amSteven Roy said:
Glock purple S3 in a toyota?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 amme said:
glock puts in a purple s3. the times are going to tumble in the last few minutes.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amSteveintheUK said:
I think Bourdais is trying extra hard today just to prove that Christine was right to pick him for her team again. I hope he doesn’t throw it off the road and end up in Christine’s bad books
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amChristine said:
Just Kovalainen has yet to make his lap count into double figures.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amAlianora La Canta said:
I wish the Force Indias would go a little quicker, but I think I may have to wait for that.
Meanwhile, Hamilton has a purple sector 1.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amlou said:
I’m finding it hard to believe these time sheets. Piqeut and Glock faster than the Mclarens. nah!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amLadySnowcat said:
Just waiting to see Lewis’s tyres….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amRocket said:
TIMO!!!!
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amSteven Roy said:
Here comes Lewis
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amSteveintheUK said:
Thanks ‘me’
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amLadySnowcat said:
Aha… softs…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amRich said:
With PK putting a respectable time we know the Renaults should be reasonable
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amAlianora La Canta said:
Glock must be happy with his P1 - but I think Lewis will spoil the party…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amlou said:
Lewis goes fastest
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amSteven Roy said:
Lewis P1 by 4 tenths
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amRocket said:
I love how in the commentary they call him Louise Hamillton.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amRocket said:
I can see some times falling big time now.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 amme said:
massa having trouble passing heidfeld on track.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 amlou said:
lol my german exchange partner used to call me Lewis…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 amSteveintheUK said:
Ooops, I guess I should have read that before I posted the comment about Bourdias, but I was trying to be nice to you both. I’m just wondered that his car is not going to be used to going that fast and he will end up breaking it, or getting hit by DC.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:56 amSteven Roy said:
Heidfeld on a fast lap
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:56 amLadySnowcat said:
As I mentioned before….
Macca will win…. unless they mess up…
Interestingly now Massa on hard tyres….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:56 amChristine said:
That’s okay, you already talked ‘me’ round, so there’ll be more Vicki at some point.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amlou said:
Kaz looks to be struggling, he is slower than the Hondas. Actually.. so is Kubica…
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amme said:
kovi on softs has no answer to hamilton at the minute.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amSteven Roy said:
Kaz P10
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 amlou said:
All but Alonso out on track now
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 amSteveintheUK said:
Thanks You
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 amme said:
no purple sectors though and piquet pits.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amLadySnowcat said:
Kimi not particularly fast….
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amRich said:
Surprising to see Glock near the top of the times and Trulli at the the other end.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amScott Woodwiss said:
Thanks christine
Lol, Panda-Ohr 
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amAlianora La Canta said:
The super-soft tyres look like they were designed for Monaco, not Hungary.
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amRocket said:
MW may be on a hot lap…who woulda thought?
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 amme said:
extreme isn’t it?
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amJoe said:
The current order is pretty normal, unusual for FP 3 isn’t it? And hey guys, I’m quite late.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amRocket said:
Final sector not good for Webber…
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amlou said:
Trullis jumps up to 13th but thats still a way off of Glock
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amlou said:
Hey Joe
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 amSteven Roy said:
Looks like a lot of drivers will be complaining about traffic as usual in Hungary
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 amSteveintheUK said:
WOW, finally court up with all these comments, and it is great not having to keep refreshing every couple of minutes, so Thanks for all your hard work with this new Live Commenting page ‘me’
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 amme said:
just a little
glock’s out of position, and bourdais ahead of vettel.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 amme said:
not a problem. wish we found time earlier in the year.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 amLadySnowcat said:
Glock probably practising getting into Q3 from Q2 whilst Trulli is practising for Q3….
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 amAlianora La Canta said:
Right, I’m going to compile the comparitor again. See if it comes up with anything sensible for the pole and win.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 amRich said:
Not sure you can read much in the times with Glock third fastest and Kubica third slowest
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 amSteven Roy said:
Alonso looked like he was really trying at the end of the session with the tale out in a couple of corners and all for P11
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 amme said:
looking forward to it
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 amSteveintheUK said:
but Vettel has one of the quickest S1 time so if he can just get S2 and S3 sorted he should be in for a fairly quick Qualiy time.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 amJoe said:
Hey Lou : P
oohh, Toro Rosso had a pretty handy session. I wonder is that ra1kkonen site pretty much gone then?
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 amme said:
looks that way doesn’t it? the justin.tv link seems to be the next most reliable one. we used it for germany too.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 amSteven Roy said:
I can’t get the justin.tv link to work at all. I watched the session in French on tvlizer. I have just tried a few options on justin.tv and get an abssolutely blank screen
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 amme said:
try this one:
http://www.justin.tv/koncerto
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 amRich said:
Steven I also cannot never get the Justin.tv to work - it just says not broadcasting. TVlizer only gives me audio (in French).
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 amLadySnowcat said:
Just an hour to go before the Lewis show starts up again on ITV…
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 amSteven Roy said:
http://www.justin.tv/koncerto looks promising. It is now showing a big F1 logo with not broadcasting at the top. Thanks
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 amAlex Andronov said:
ps. I had that slow down comment during the British grand prix… I thought it was something to do with me’s mum being in charge
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 amJoe said:
It’s annoying that ITV only show live streaming in the UK. I guess I can see why they’ve done it, but I’ll have to download qualifying later tonight if I want Brundle (which I do of course).
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’m currently uploading the comparitor. It’s now projecting the following top sixes:
Qualifying
Massa-Hamilton
Kovalainen-Raikkonen
Glock-Piquet Jr
Race
Massa-Raikkonen
Hamilton-Kovalainen
Piquet Jr-Glock
Once again Hungary looks like living up to its low-overtaking reputation.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’ve had the “slow down” comment a couple of times - generally when I’ve forgotten that I’ve already submitted an identical comment.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 amme said:
final fp3 times:
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 amRich said:
That is all I get as well!
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 amSteven Roy said:
Ali,
Can you explain on what basis your spreadsheet is predicting a Ferrari 1-2 because I just can’t see any reason why it would predict that
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 amme said:
massa ahead of hamilton is an interesting one. and if piquet out qualifies alonso that would be incredible.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 amRich said:
Hi Joe where can you download this from?
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 amSteven Roy said:
Download any ITV prog from http://www.itv.com/CatchUp/default.html
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:26 amSteven Roy said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/2705869477/in/set-72157606393839460/
I love that photo. If only they had parked the cars a little differently you could have got Prost in as well
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 amJoe said:
Bah, I knew it, that’s UK-only too, thanks anyway Steven.
I’ll get, I’ll just have to wait until 8pm or so for it to be uploaded.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 amlou said:
Joe, Brundle is on holiday/ absent
. Ant is taking his place for quali 
and then Damon Hill for the race.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 amJoe said:
Oh yeah, oops. Now I’m even more annoyed because I’ll miss Anthony v_v
Stupid ITV and their contract, lol.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 amRich said:
Thanks Steven, unfortunately it is UK only.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 amRich said:
I would love to see PK out-qualify and out-race Alonso - would feel a bit sorry though for the doors of the Renault Motorhome and Alonso’s helmet!
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 amAlianora La Canta said:
Can you explain on what basis your spreadsheet is predicting a Ferrari 1-2 {Steven Roy - 4 comments ago}
The session that most closely correlates to the race pace is used. It then adjusts the position earned in that session for this race according to the average difference between that session and the race, and then multiplies by the finishing rate to make the results of drivers who go out of lots of races more accurate. Then everyone is ranked according to the “raw” position calculated.
Since some (though not all) drivers’ qualifying positions more closely correlate to their race positions, the comparitor at this point in the weekend is provision. Albeit less provisional than the Friday one.
With the above in mind, this is how the Ferrari 1-2 was arrived at:
Massa’s most closely correlating session to use for race results is Saturday practise (the one we’ve just had). He came 2nd. His practise position is, on average, 0.08 places below his race position. After taking that and his finishing rate (0.80) into account, his “raw” finishing position should be 1.66.
Normally, 1.66 shouldn’t be a winning “raw” score, but the next lowest “raw” finishing position is Raikkonen.
Raikkonen’s most closely correlating session is Friday practise 1. He was 2nd in that session. His practise position is, on average, 0.2 places below his race position. His finishing rate is 0.9, though, so he ends up with a slightly higher score. So his “raw” performance score is 2.2.
Third in the predictor is Hamilton. On the most closely correlated session for him - Free Practise 1 - he was only 4th. His Free Practise 1 position is, on average, 0.1 places higher than his eventual race position. With a 0.9 finishing rate, his “raw” performance score is a mere 3.9.
Bear in mind that the comparitor doesn’t calculate if someone’s going to retire or not. Without the finishing rate adjustment, drivers who missed lots of races would end up with an unrealistically high score. For example, Adrian Sutil’s “raw” performance score would be P28.13 without the adjustment, but is a more realistic P16.88 with it.
Still, the spreadsheet is quite clear - it’ll be a Ferrari walkover, aided by the prediction that Massa will also get pole.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 amme said:
just testing live commenting and ampersands.
here is an ampersand: &
and here is and encoded ampersand: &
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:47 amChristine said:
And what, pray tell, does that add to the F1 conversation?
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:47 amLadySnowcat said:
That is amazing Alianora…
Great stuff… and I can hardly believe that will happen….
Have you run it on last years figures or is it based on this season’s data?….
Over time you could build in a track variable too….
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 amLadySnowcat said:
Given Kimi’s Saturday practice I am not sure I have enough chocolate for this weekend…. certainly not enough for qualy….
And I haven’t had time to get doughnuts…
I’ll have to rely on something stronger…
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pmSteven Roy said:
I am sorry can you explain the concept of enough chocolate? Is it possible ever to have enough chocolate?
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pmAlianora La Canta said:
And what, pray tell, does that add to the F1 conversation? {lou - 4 comments ago}
Presumably it means we can put as many &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&s in as we like!
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pmLadySnowcat said:
True Steven… too true…
But actually I didn’t need chocolate at Sepang or Barce…
Or watching Interlagos last year….
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Have you run it on last years figures or is it based on this season’s data?…. {LadySnowcat - 4 comments ago}
LadySnowcat, it’s based entirely on 2008 data. I don’t know how to get the differing factors involved from year to year to relate accurately.
Is it possible ever to have enough chocolate? {Steven Roy - 2 comments ago}
Of course it’s possible to have too much chocolate - thousands of overweight people will testify to that!
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmSteven Roy said:
Ali,
Thanks for the explanation. I still can’t see that the outcome will be the one it predicts but it has proved me wrong before. I am amazed at the amount of work and thought that you have put into it. It would be interesting to analyse the end of season data to see if it gets one driver right more often than the others or it is better at one track.
I see the race as something of a McLaren walkover and I would expect the BMWs to give Ferrari a very hard time.
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I don’t need chocolate to watch a Grand Prix, just a good book for the quieter bits. This weekend, I’m tackling “Thinking The Unthinkable”.
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:09 pmLadySnowcat said:
A BOOK!!!!!!!…
Only when the Kimster breaks down and I can no longer watch every sector time on Live Timing…
I hope his transponder doesn’t give up today….
It did yesterday and in Hockenheim….
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pmAlianora La Canta said:
There are quite often lulls in the racing where nobody seems to do much of anything. In which case I can use my ears to track the commentary and car noises and my eyes to read. Over the 12 years I’ve been doing it, I’ve found the technique works very well. There’s only been one race in that time (Brazil 2003) when I ended up not reading the book at some point in the race (excluding advert time).