Forgotten F1 Teams – Arrows
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Welcome to Forgotten F1 Teams – a mini series from Sidepodcast chronicling the rise and fall of teams that couldn’t stay the distance. This is the fourth show, we’ve already looked at Simtek, Pacific and Forti, but today we’re talking about Arrows.
Arrows Grand Prix came to life in 1977, founded by previous Shadow employees, Franco Ambrosio, Alan Rees, Jackie Oliver, Dave Wass and Tony Southgate – the surnames of whom spell out Arrows… sort of. Based in Milton Keynes, their Formula 1 entry was a bit of a rush job, with their first ever car being produced in just 53 days. Riccardo Patrese was brought on board to steer the car and the early signs were promising. They finished tenth in their first race in ‘78, almost won their second, and picked up some points in their third Grand Prix.
Unfortunately, the team didn’t have an easy start to life with some early controversies. Founder Franco Ambrosio had to leave the team after being found guilty of financial misconduct in Italy, and sent to prison. The team were then sued by Shadow for copyright on their chassis, which was upheld by the court. However, this didn’t stop them, as while the decision was being made over the the copied chassis, Arrows had built a brand new car, which then took to the track without them having to miss a race.
Patrese was involved in a serious multi-car pile up at the Italian Grand Prix that year. Fellow driver Ronnie Peterson died after the accident, and James Hunt, who was also involved, led a successful campaign to get Patrese banned from racing at the next Grand Prix.
In 1984, Arrows partnered with BMW, who brought their turbo engines on board, and the team received sponsorship from Barclay – a cigarette company. Their championship efforts improved, from 9th up to 8th the following year. In 1987, when BMW split from the team, things got even better. 6th in the championship that year, and 4th the next.
At the beginning of the next decade, the Japanese Footwork corporation became a prominent sponsor, and in 1991, this became the new name of the team. They kept it until 1996, when the sponsor withdrew support, and they became Arrows again. To replace Footwork, a new investor, Tom Walkinshaw was brought on board, and he successfully signed up defending champion Damon Hill. At the 1997 Hungarian GP, the team so very nearly got their first win, albeit mostly due to luck, but that ran out when a throttle problem meant Hill had to crawl to the finish handing the lead to Villeneuve on the final lap.
Walkinshaw gradually bought out ownership of the entire team, but under his reign, engine partnerships changed at the drop of a hat, and drivers were also coming and going. By 2002, Jos Verstappen was suing the team for breach of contract, Arrows was unsuccessfully trying to sue Pedro Diniz for leaving them, and Heinz-Harald Frentzen was suing them for not having been paid yet. By the middle of the season, Arrows had no money left, and suspicions were beginning to mount about their ability to continue in the championship. At the French Grand Prix, both drivers failed to qualify, but it appeared that they could have had they tried just that little bit harder. The data showed that both drivers had been competitive in the first two sectors but not in the last. They were threatened with bringing the sport into disrepute, trying not to qualify because they couldn’t afford to race. Before anything could be made of the situation though, the team had gone into liquidation.
A friend of Walkinshaw’s bought up some of the team’s assets to partner them with previous purchased Prost team assets, and enter Formula 1. The FIA disagreed. The rights for the chassis were picked up by Paul Stoddart of Minardi, and then by Super Aguri who ran a modified version in 2006.
Although compared to some of our Forgotten teams, lasting 15 years in the sport is a successful campaign, the team’s greatest “achievement” is having participated in 382 races without a win.
That’s it for this edition of Forgotten F1 Teams. Please let me know what you remember of the Arrows team on Sidepodcast.com or via the Voicemail – 0121 28 87225. I will be back tomorrow with our next Forgotten team.
Theme music: Bloc Party, I Still Remember.
August 10th, 2008 at 21:05 #1 - me said:
if you thought massa breaking down in hungary was heartbreaking, check out damon in his arrows at the same track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWseKBlWHxY&feature=related
August 10th, 2008 at 21:53 #2 - Alianora La Canta said:
That was a sad end to a really nice Grand Prix – especially enjoyable for Damon Hill fans like me, but I think most people enjoyed having an underdog stick two fingers up at Williams and Ferrari for nearly an entire race.
August 10th, 2008 at 22:59 #3 - lou said:
August 10th, 2008 at 23:23 #4 - me said:
sorry lou.
what is it with that racetrack though?
August 11th, 2008 at 00:04 #5 - lou said:
tis ok. I watched a vid on youtube of Jenson’s win to cheer me up
it certainly seems to produce some interesting news doesn’t it? If it’s not surpise winners, or heartbreaking storys, it’s fights between team mates. And people say hungary is boring
August 11th, 2008 at 00:17 #6 - me said:
so what we’re saying is “more hungary”? that’s a formula 1 first, isn’t it?
August 11th, 2008 at 00:27 #7 - lou said:
er most probably
It can produce some great races so yeah i think i am. It’s not as boring as barcelona so i think i can handle it on the calender a little longer 
August 11th, 2008 at 01:30 #8 - Joe said:
On the subject of boring tracks, how on earth does Catalunya have the highest number of wet races?
I find that amusing for such a crap track, I mean I’d rather hear James Allen talk about a Senna-esque walk that Lewis had to the shops when he was 10 instead of having to watch the Spanish GP from start to finish without turning over.
On topic, I liked Arrows.It was a shame for them not even trying to qualify sometimes in 2002, makes you wonder why they even turned up.
August 11th, 2008 at 01:32 #9 - lou said:
ahaha
August 11th, 2008 at 01:34 #10 - me said:
christine asked the very same thing, and the only thought i had was maybe they were trying to extract more money from bernie?
prost had already gone bankrupt earlier in the year, and there was a feeling more could follow.
i don’t remember enough about it to be honest, but someone else may have a better recollection of the events than me.
August 11th, 2008 at 01:52 #11 - Joe said:
On the subject of minnows, who remembers this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlwuMxtl4AU
For 24 hours, Minardi really did rule the world. Ah, memories of watching Qualifying 1 in 2003 at midnight : D
August 11th, 2008 at 02:15 #12 - Scott said:
As Christine may already know, Franck was involved in an accident with a backmarker whilst battling for the lead in the closing laps, at Road America. Unfortunately, this caused something of an… err… ‘incident’ in the commentary box:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/alms-commentators-fight-over-franck
August 11th, 2008 at 02:19 #13 - me said:
oh.my.lord.
who’s the commentary team? that’s hilarious
August 11th, 2008 at 02:24 #14 - me said:
i remember it well. not sure i was fond of qually stretched across two days though.
August 11th, 2008 at 02:28 #15 - Scott Woodwiss said:
The northern guy is John Hindhaugh, the same guy who shared the commentary on Radio Le Mans.
August 11th, 2008 at 02:30 #16 - Scott said:
Yeah, it’s absolutely superb.
The commentators are John Hindhaugh (with the Mackem accent), Jeremy Shaw (former Eurosport Champ Car commentator, who’s also covered F1 for Channel 10 in Australia) and Katherine Legge.
I have to give full marks to Katherine – if she hadn’t stepped in the world could well have had another war on its hands!
August 11th, 2008 at 02:34 #17 - Scott Woodwiss said:
we should declare war on john hindhaugh, how dare he bad mouth franck!
August 11th, 2008 at 02:46 #18 - me said:
that was katherine legge? aww, she’s cute.
give it, ooh, about 7 hours and that might just happen
August 11th, 2008 at 03:13 #19 - Jordan Allen said:
Hey, the stupid cable company changed stations on me! I expecting “Christine’s House of F1 Horrors”….
Actually, this is what I was expecting from this series, the teams that did well, should have won races and championships, but where just lacking that one piece of the puzzle to get them to immortality. Greeting rid of Damon Hill earilier would have been a start…
Best thing that could have happend. This Villeneuve fan was overjoyed calling “almost” payback for Australia 1996….
I hope tomorrow’s team will be equally informative.
August 11th, 2008 at 03:43 #20 - Jordan Allen said:
Hey Scott, is there anywhere I can find the video of this clip as I would love to see it. I think the commentators make fun of of an old CART villian of mine, Paul Tracey…. Loved it how thew one guy says he can only see out of one eye, I think he even wore glasses at all times, including while racing…..
August 11th, 2008 at 07:59 #21 - Journeyer said:
I think it was because they were tied to a contract stating they had to show up at every race weekend, lest they get sued? The only way you need not show up is if you’re… well, out of business.
Nice series, guys! I’ll listen to this – or maybe to the omnibus – when I have the time. FYI, I’m a HUGE fan of F1 Rejects, so it should be interesting to see how this stacks up.
August 11th, 2008 at 08:25 #22 - Christine said:
I’ve been watching a few of your comments, Jordan, and I’m sorry if you haven’t enjoyed the previous shows in this series.
What you will find is that the word forgotten is there for a reason. At least 80% of teams that have been forgotten have been because they, well, weren’t very good. Therefore, you’re going to have to expect 80% of the shows to cover those teams as well.
I wasn’t sure about looking at Arrows, to be honest, because I don’t really think they’re forgotten. Even I’d heard about them, knew of them, etc.
However, we are always open to suggestions, so if there are more successful teams you’d like to see covered, please share them.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:14 #23 - Steven Roy said:
I didn’t even realise there was an ALMS race this weekend. The next one is in two weeks time and it is live on Speed.
August 11th, 2008 at 14:57 #24 - Joe said:
I’m watching the Monaco 96 race on youtube atm and, Murray said that they couldn’t time pitstops because they weren’t allowed to drill holes for the sensors. Makes sense due to it being such a public area but, they time them now don’t they?
August 11th, 2008 at 15:12 #25 - me said:
that makes heaps more sense, thanks journeyer.
August 11th, 2008 at 15:14 #26 - Steven Roy said:
They built new pits and other facilities in the last few years so that is probably why. It is a bit rich that Monaco refused to let them drill a few holes when they get theor race for nothing while everyone else is paying $10-15 million.
August 11th, 2008 at 16:40 #27 - Stuart C said:
Afternoon all…
Yes indeed – although it’s not so much a matter of being sued, more a case of forfeiting the entry bond (which was scrapped a couple of years ago) and their share of the TV money.
August 11th, 2008 at 18:23 #28 - Jordan Allen said:
Nor I, to be honest. You can blame Your other virtual F1 team race engineer Gaulty for picking Arrows. I was hoping you would pick either Wolf F1, Hesketh or Zakspeed, depending where you want to go with this series.
Well, I just did not know what to expect for this series. I thought that you would be picking F1 horror stories, but when me stated he did not wish to make this podcast look like a rip-off of R1 rejects, I thought you guys would shy away from the the worst of the worst. And maybe pick good teams that, well, where extremely proper when our great-grnadparents where alive…. like Vanwall, for instance, or Maserati.
Or how really well known are, for example Penske F1, Graham Hill F1? John Surtess F1? And yet they were teams good enough to avoid the attentions of F1rejects, which is really, what you want right?
But anyways, keep up the good work, and Steven and Scott, it is up to you to keep Relentless Sidepodcast Panda-Cosworth Racing off Christine’s list of forgotten F1 teams…
August 11th, 2008 at 18:31 #29 - Christine said:
You say this as if you think I have a plan
August 11th, 2008 at 18:52 #30 - Lynch said:
Yes, I agree.. Graham Hill’s F1 team would be worth a podcast….
August 11th, 2008 at 20:38 #31 - Jordan Allen said:
I try to be fair. I will admit to assuming you have a plan, until proven otherwise…..
If you are getting desparate, I think the inclusion of Farce, I mean Force India into the ranks of “Forgotten F1 Teams” would be a safe bet…the worst that can happen is that people will be banging on your doors seeking more phophecies….
Charge a shilling a head and you should be able to pay off the bandwidth rates and buy Toro Rosso with the spare change…
August 11th, 2008 at 20:43 #32 - Lynch said:
FYI: yeah! VBH is on 5th Gear!! I thought she was given the heave hoe, as she didnt feature in the adverts for the new series…. It would be cool if she went to the Beeb for the F1 coverage!
August 11th, 2008 at 21:21 #33 - R.G (Experiencing Technical Difficulties) said:
Please don’t write them sort of comments mate, I don’t want to be singled out, especially on a place like this.
I thought you set out all eps in advance?
August 11th, 2008 at 22:19 #34 - me said:
damn, i missed it
August 11th, 2008 at 22:26 #35 - R.G (Experiencing Technical Difficulties) said:
There is five demand, if you have time in your already busy schedule
August 11th, 2008 at 22:27 #36 - me said:
no kidding, i just found about 8 comments of yours in the spam bin… what happened?
soz, r.g. am looking into it.
agreed. jordan, i know you’re only messing, but you might be taking this whole mini-series a little seriously my friend.
arrows was fine suggestion, and a fine team (in the most part). we always take suggestions on board, i’ve no idea if they were on christine’s list in the first place or a late addition though.
mini-series are as much fun for me as everybody else.
August 11th, 2008 at 22:30 #37 - R.G (Experiencing Technical Difficulties) said:
Thanks ‘me’, I was getting a bit scared when nothing was coming up.
August 11th, 2008 at 22:31 #38 - me said:
cheers. i went to the site and five told me:
“Unfortunately you can’t watch Demand Five programmes on a Macintosh because the Mac version of the Windows Media Player does not support the security features we use to protect our content from unauthorised use. You can, however, browse the website and view the programme trailers if you have Flash installed.”
i’ll be content with a trailer of vicki then!
August 11th, 2008 at 22:37 #39 - Jordan Allen said:
Yay! Gaulty’s been found, how we can figure out the engine arrangement Cosworth is supposed to build for Sidepocast-Panda racing!
Well, whatever you where afraid R. G., I was not going to get hit with. If people want to blast me for my F1 choices of Wolf, Hesketh, Penske, Hill, Surtess, or Zakspeed, they are welcome to do so. But I am not going to take a bullit that was meant for you, but headed my way because of Chrsitine’s misdirection.
Who knows, Gaulty, who knows?
August 11th, 2008 at 22:44 #40 - R.G (Posting Comments to Quickly) said:
I’m not blasting you, in fact it would be nice to see some of them teams.
August 11th, 2008 at 22:49 #41 - me said:
given the amount of debate this series has already generated, i think a 2nd series is inevitable at this point.
i’m wondering if we might need to run back-to-back episodes during the entire winter break actually. thank the lord the ‘09 campaign gets underway later in the year, or we’ll never fit everything in.
August 11th, 2008 at 22:51 #42 - R.G (Posting Comments to Quickly and having tech problems) said:
Haha, say that and Bernie will bring it forward to January and do what the WRC do.
August 11th, 2008 at 22:58 #43 - me said:
what’s that then? i mean i know what the wrc is, but what do they do in jan?
August 11th, 2008 at 23:00 #44 - Jordan Allen said:
Hey, Arrows was your pick so you get the the credit. Nothing wrong with tthat is there? So what is wrong with pointing out that the credit was misplaced?
August 11th, 2008 at 23:19 #45 - Steven Roy said:
The WRC do the Monte Carlo rally in January
August 11th, 2008 at 23:20 #46 - me said:
ahh, ok. yeah, that would play havoc with our schedules
August 11th, 2008 at 23:55 #47 - Joe said:
This mini-series is certainly bringing some real life to the comments. Not that there wasn’t any life before of course, it’s always been a pretty lively place, full of life and such.
See, I can get my mentions in too : P
August 12th, 2008 at 09:48 #48 - R.G (Posting Comments to Quickly and having tech problems) said:
The WRC go from January to December.
August 13th, 2008 at 00:45 #49 - Jordan Allen said:
By any chance is the Circuit de Catalunya on a plain?
August 13th, 2008 at 13:05 #50 - Scott Woodwiss said:
On the subject of franck, i’m downloading a torrent of the ALMS race at Road America and I’m gonna have a look at the incident. Then we shall know the truth!
August 13th, 2008 at 14:05 #51 - me said:
scott, i am shocked that you doubt franck.
shame on you.
August 13th, 2008 at 14:13 #52 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I never said i was doubting him, just wanted to see the incident and why they thought franck was at fault
August 13th, 2008 at 14:19 #53 - me said:
you said:
we already know the truth, the other guy(s) was / were at fault. for you not to have realised that way back in the summer of ‘07, clearly shows you doubt franck, even if only at a subconscious level.
August 13th, 2008 at 14:27 #54 - Steven Roy said:
Just wait until Christine finds out that Scott blamed Franck without even watching the incident. There may be trouble ahead …
August 13th, 2008 at 14:30 #55 - me said:
the man he hath sinned.
August 13th, 2008 at 14:47 #56 - Le BOL said:
Hmm, dropped into the nearest public library to find out that death toll at Renault F1 rises: Dino Toso is no longer on this planet. Must be weird for them?
Anyway, to me Arrows was more important than Williams, F1 will never be the same without them, shame Tom “took care” of the team, they had the potential.
This cheap state-own internet cafe where I’m posting sucks.
August 13th, 2008 at 14:50 #57 - Scott Woodwiss said:
yeah, but how can you say it wasn’t his fault either when you haven’t watched it either?
that’s why i’m going to watch it, so i can see what happened. i still support franck and still defend him, but i want to watch the incident so i can give my view on it. Yes it may well have been franck’s fault, but hopefully it wasn’t. I support Lewis but even I can criticise him for being an idiot sometimes a la Canada. Doesn’t mean I hate him. Same goes for Franck
August 13th, 2008 at 15:40 #58 - Jordan Allen said:
The turth is out there, Special Agent Scott Woodchuck, somewhere in among all these other X-Files….
August 13th, 2008 at 16:04 #59 - Jordan Allen said:
Scott I think you need to think tactically here. Christine, as Team Owner, can fire you and this season’s line-ups are already settled. You could pay for a drive but do you want to drive for Zakspeed? Token?, Coloni? I guess the best bet would be Trojan but not for anything related to racing.
And why would she want to do that? Well, the rumour in the garage is that Chrisitne’s decided to become serious as a Team Owner, and has took to reading the book “The Prince” by Niccolò Machiavelli, to figure out how to run this operation. I heard she’s looking for “Examples” and you blaming her favourite driver that she is trying to line up as Test Driver, just placed yourself on the bulls-eye.
August 13th, 2008 at 16:45 #60 - me said:
August 13th, 2008 at 16:48 #61 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I HAVEN’T SAID AT ALL THAT IT WAS FRANCK’S FAULT FULL STOP! If anything it could just be a racing incident. We don’t know because we’ve not seen the footage. That’s why I’m currently downloading the race as I write this to watch the said incident between franck and the gt2 aston to see what the fuss the commentators were making was all about. Just because I said “we shall find out the truth” doesn’t mean I was actually blaming franck. it meant that we can actually see what happened in the accident.
August 13th, 2008 at 16:52 #62 - me said:
that’s pretty heavy le bol, cheers for the heads-up.
August 13th, 2008 at 17:10 #63 - Steven Roy said:
I have read everything you have written about Franck causing the crash and the last post is the first to mention racing incident. Have the PR people had a word in your ear?
August 13th, 2008 at 17:16 #64 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Have I said in any of the above posts “Yes, Franck caused the crash”? Have I actually written those exact words? No.
Is there anything I can now say for you guys to stop blaming me for saying Franck caused the crash? :/
August 13th, 2008 at 17:16 #65 - lou said:
hey, Sorry i haven’t been around much lately…
Is this the accident you are all going on about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8D2vlV6018
May save you downloading the race Scott. (and no i didn’t need proof it wasn’t Franck’s fault, i just wanted to know what you guys were going on about
)
August 13th, 2008 at 17:21 #66 - me said:
yeah, that’s it lou.
just seeing if we could push ya to using uppercase and BOLD.
August 13th, 2008 at 17:23 #67 - Scott Woodwiss said:
why is it everyone always tries to push me to breaking point. What the hell have I done to deserve that? Tell me, please.
August 13th, 2008 at 17:23 #68 - lou said:
ah right
thanks. now to catch up on the mini series and the comments i have missed 
August 13th, 2008 at 17:24 #69 - lou said:
aww don’t worry Scott. My mates are always doing the same to me
August 13th, 2008 at 17:30 #70 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Alright, I’m just gonna say it – that incident WAS Franck’s fault. Look at the replay, he’s miles back from the Aston so how he thinks he can get past from there is beyond me. Because of this, the Aston was oblivious that he was alongside, turned in on him and damaged the Acura in the process. That then lead to him getting stuck in the gravel further up the course. Like it or not, that’s my opinion.
If I may borrow the Top Gear slogan, Franck’s move was ambitious but rubbish, and somewhat audacious.
August 13th, 2008 at 17:37 #71 - Jordan Allen said:
Scott, everyone here is from the old school “Frank Williams style of Driver Management.” You should see what happens to you when you think you deserve a pay raise just for being a meager world champion….
You can talk about a pay raise when you win multiple champiosnhips, like Steven……
August 13th, 2008 at 17:49 #72 - Jordan Allen said:
I saw the race footage and I am not going say anything as I know where my paycheque comes from…..
August 13th, 2008 at 17:49 #73 - me said:
hehe. it’s just a title really.
August 13th, 2008 at 19:16 #74 - Scott Woodwiss said:
What could you recommend as the best torrent downloader?
Oh and i have found this site which has hundreds of thousands of racing torrents to download. Yes it’s a bit shady, but there’s all the stuff from this year’s season and much from past ones.
[redacted]
August 13th, 2008 at 19:27 #75 - me said:
vuze, but that’s cause it works on a mac.
yeah, kathy pointed that out to us a while back:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/06/08/live…t-75693
haven’t tried it meself, but good that you’re getting into torrents (even if they are the wrong kind of torrent!).
August 13th, 2008 at 19:38 #76 - Scott Woodwiss said:
i used to download torrents before, and only just rediscovered the site.
August 13th, 2008 at 21:45 #77 - Steven Roy said:
Franck is innocent.
August 13th, 2008 at 22:08 #78 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I really don’t see how with a move like that.
August 13th, 2008 at 22:29 #79 - Jordan Allen said:
…..And that’s why Steven is currently Lead Driver and next year Steven is going to be Senior Driver whereas you are going to be wondering where is the next paycheque is coming from, Scott!
Have not you figured out that the big thing is to keep the boss happy, yet?
August 13th, 2008 at 22:44 #80 - Scott Woodwiss said:
to be honest i couldn’t care less. My opinion still stands regardless.
August 13th, 2008 at 22:49 #81 - Steven Roy said:
Frank was a nose ahead when the contact was made. It was a good move and Brabham should have seen him.
August 13th, 2008 at 22:59 #82 - Christine said:
Everyone’s entitled to an opinion – those commentators couldn’t decide who was right or wrong either.
Regardless, I still love FKM. Thanks to those who feel the need to defend his honour, but if you think I care about his driving, you’re all missing the point.
August 13th, 2008 at 23:15 #83 - Alenyaa said:
Hey Sidey!
I know it’s been a while but I’ve been busy doing all sorts of stuff which kept me from posting here. I did check your entries regularly though, so I haven’t been completely neglecting you
I still remember that race and the local newspapers the after vividly. I felt so sad for Damon missing out on an opportunity to beat the odds that were so enormously stacked against him that year.
Unfortunately it wasn’t to be. But I did become a fan of Damon that day.
August 13th, 2008 at 23:19 #84 - me said:
hey alenyaa
i’m sure at any other point that year, 2nd place would’ve been gratefully received too
August 13th, 2008 at 23:24 #85 - Alenyaa said:
Wow, you remember me? :p
You’re right, it would have been. And during the next weekend he was way back in the field again, as if Hungary had never happened.
Ah well, he did win the championship in ‘96, so one may assume he’ll be at least moderately satisfied with his career
I’m off again now. Will check in again soon. Especially for the podcast next sunday!
August 13th, 2008 at 23:40 #86 - me said:
of course!
i even remember your first comment, you asked us for a quote button, we made one, and it still exists above the comments box to this very day.
see ya sunday
August 13th, 2008 at 23:52 #87 - Steven Roy said:
I have pandas on my desktop. I have never paid any attention to gadgets before but I decided to have a look and see what was available. There are thousands of them including a couple of webcams of the pandas at San Diego zoo.
August 14th, 2008 at 00:20 #88 - me said:
i believe this may require screenshot in drop.io.
August 14th, 2008 at 00:40 #89 - Steven Roy said:
Done
August 14th, 2008 at 00:45 #90 - me said:
ahh lordy, as i feared. that’s this weekends productivity right outta the window now.
do they do anything interesting?
August 14th, 2008 at 00:51 #91 - Steven Roy said:
If they do anything interesting I will try and catch it. Or you could download it for Christine.
August 14th, 2008 at 01:29 #92 - me said:
that would require both booting up vista and enabling gadgets. you ask a lot of this mac fanboy.
August 14th, 2008 at 01:54 #93 - Jordan Allen said:
“me”
Send this Chrisitne’s way if you dare…
http://www.sandiegozoo.com/zoo/ex_panda_station.html
Christine’s productivity should hit the negative numbers if you click this link.
August 14th, 2008 at 09:45 #94 - Steven Roy said:
That link should be http://www.sandiegozoo.org/zoo/ex_panda_station.html
It’s a .org not a .com. I saw the same thing last night and it is exactly the same feed I have as a gadget.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:36 #95 - me said:
am i the only one finding it a bit weird that the url reads:
ex_panda_station.html
i was half expecting the presenter to say:
August 14th, 2008 at 13:09 #96 - Steven Roy said:
You have to be very careful with Python quotes. All it takes is one or two to appear and you will be inundated with them. GP Wizard ended up with a Python week not long ago because one quote begat another, then another then they were like tribbles. OOPS Ihave just crossed Monty Python with Star Trek. Who knows what might result?
August 14th, 2008 at 13:42 #97 - Jordan Allen said:
Either link does work. I guess teh zoo has multiple domains for people who can not tell the difference between organizations that are supposed to make a profit (commerical and those that would like to make a profit (organization.
Well, I kinda figured that ex_ stood for exhibit, And one of those Panda does not like being the butt of jokes, as a matter of fact, hes got a vicious streak a mile wide, with long claws and big, sharp, nasty, pointy teeth, in short, it would do you a treat mate.
August 14th, 2008 at 13:53 #98 - me said:
in that case, i’m not sure he’ll be distracting christine for very long.
are there any tiny little cute ones?
August 14th, 2008 at 14:06 #99 - Steven Roy said:
There were a couple that spent half an hour wrestling yesterday so I am sure Christine will be entertained.
However if she insists on only baby pandas Atlanta Zoo has a pandacam and they have cubs too. The camera only broadcasts from 10am to 5pm EST so I guess that is 3pm to 10pm in the UK.
http://www.zooatlanta.org/animals_panda_cam.php4
August 14th, 2008 at 14:08 #100 - Jordan Allen said:
Well, there are at least three of them that I spotted on the camera. And at the site their are 7 pictures with 7 different names, so anywhere from 3 to 7 pandas. Think there’s one around 1, one around 3 and their mother.
August 14th, 2008 at 15:00 #101 - Jordan Allen said:
Meanwhile, a Panda is still eating away some bamboo in a cave at the San Diego Zoo, being recored live with a thermal camera in the process……..
August 14th, 2008 at 15:02 #102 - me said:
thermo cam??
August 14th, 2008 at 15:06 #103 - Jordan Allen said:
Well, at least a camera that allows you to see in the dark. Could be infra-red, I suppose…
August 14th, 2008 at 15:15 #104 - Christine said:
Wow, they really do just sit and eat, don’t they? That’s the life.
August 14th, 2008 at 15:18 #105 - Jordan Allen said:
…..and Eat, and Eat, and Eat maybe that’s not quite the life it is cracked out to be…
August 14th, 2008 at 15:35 #106 - lou said:
awww!! those pandas are so cute!
August 14th, 2008 at 16:10 #107 - Steven Roy said:
They won’t know what’s hit them when we strap them to an F1 car.
August 14th, 2008 at 16:16 #108 - Steven Roy said:
The San Diego pandas are a lot more entertaining than the Atlanta ones. The one in Atlanta that I can see is sleeping on a branch. Unless it is planning on falling off that is not very entertaining.
August 14th, 2008 at 16:19 #109 - Christine said:
To be fair, I checked in an hour ago and the San Diego one was sitting, chewing.
I check it now, it hasn’t moved an inch. Still sitting, still chewing.
Something tells me that these Panda’s aren’t the most exciting animals in the world. Baby Panda’s, however, that’s a different story.
August 14th, 2008 at 16:44 #110 - Steven Roy said:
It looks like the pandas are sneakier than we thought. It looks like it is still there chewing but it got up and went for a walk when no-one was looking. I put a screen shot in drop.io of my screen set up including a pandaless cave in San Diego. I don’t know if the same one cam back or another one took its place.
August 14th, 2008 at 16:47 #111 - me said:
ahh, cunning.
August 14th, 2008 at 17:12 #112 - Jordan Allen said:
Perhaps the Pandas had a shift change?
August 14th, 2008 at 17:17 #113 - Jordan Allen said:
Hey the Panda is moving!
August 14th, 2008 at 17:20 #114 - Jordan Allen said:
And back to eating. You guys do not want to know where it move to……
August 14th, 2008 at 17:26 #115 - Steven Roy said:
I just noticed that ITV are giving us half an hour of the Festival of Speed tonight at 11:40pm.
August 14th, 2008 at 19:34 #116 - me said:
is that a repeat? missed the show they broadcast a while back, must remember this one.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:16 #117 - Alianora La Canta said:
Wow, they really do just sit and eat, don’t they? That’s the life. {Christine – 13 comments ago}
You know, that could cause a real problem for the RSPCRF1 project. Now we need a panda exercise motivation programme…
is that a repeat? missed the show they broadcast a while back, must remember this one. {me – previous comment}
It was a repeat – the second half should be broadcast at another time. The original may even still be on ITV Catch up if you’re quick.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:21 #118 - me said:
ooops!