Episode 75 - Just Listening to Your Talky Thing-a-ma-gig
- Length: 35:09
- Size: 30.0 MB
- File: episode75.mp3
- Enhanced: episode75.m4a
- Transcript: Coming soon
- Torrent: episode75.torrent
The second week in a row in which we feature a guest, and this time there’s some insight into turning old technologies into the future.
Intro
There’s this new idea about gathering together news stories and separating them into those that have been good and those that have been bad. Where have we heard that before?
Good Week / Bad Week
Good week for Ferrari and Takuma Sato as they’re both sorting out their drives for next year, but a bad week for Nurburgring and Valencia as the organisers have some work to do.
News and Views
A quick catchup of testing this week at Monza, which Renault’s determination to go slowly whatever the costs, and Force India possibly evaluating their drivers. We talk to Scott Woodwiss about his thoughts on this season compared to others, the regulation changes, and how F1 can get back to America.
Prost Questionnaire
Thanks to Alex Andronov, our guest from last week, we have a new feature for guests in which they are subjected to ten quick-fire questions.
Feedback
A voicemail from Shaun, some more You Know You’re an F1 Fan… entries, and TV coverage in Mexico.
Housekeeping
With a brand new Sunday show on the way, this one becomes F1 Debrief, and look forward to The Parade Lap next weekend.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:01 amme said:
scott, please don’t sweat digging out your memorabilia, christine somehow managed to finish the show tonight / this morning. we also nicked your piccy from bebo, hope that’s ok?
my job once these things are complete, is to listen back to the show and make sure it sounds as it should. frankly i’m too damn tired, so have uploaded and am now going to sleep.
pls yell if you spot and issues and we’ll fix in the morning!
September 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pmScott Woodwiss said:
yeah no problem
Gonna have a listen to the finished product now 
September 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pmlou said:
Wow Ollie is really good at guessing the podcast length!
and ‘me’ I hate to say it but I’ve read through last week’s comments and…
… it was your idea
everything seems fine
A great podcast
integrating the live comments seems to work really well. I liked the interview too, it would be cool if you made them a semi regular thing (as in not every week). Would be a nice addition to the off season shows too.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:39 pmme said:
no it wasn’t, someone planted the seed first
i just can’t find the comment that’ll prove my innocence. oh, all right it was me.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pmlou said:
awww I wouldn’t worry it’s a good idea you should be happy you thought of it
September 1st, 2008 at 12:42 pmme said:
it gives the girl more ammunition… she doesn’t need any more ammunition.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pmme said:
just listened back, all seems to be in the correct order. hope you likes.
if we can find enough
victimsvolunteers, then sure thing.September 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pmMattw said:
It’s only 35 minutes long!
What am I going to do with the other 25 minutes?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pmme said:
grr
there’s a two hour extended video, if you’re interested?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pmlou said:
aww, but come next week it will be a huge success just as live commenting and going live was
September 1st, 2008 at 1:00 pmSteven Roy said:
I knew it wasn’t my idea. I had nothing to do with it Christine it was all ‘me’.
Besides Christine can’t complain. Last week she didn’t want more live shows yet yesterday she wanted all the shows to be live so whats another hour?
Thank you to Lou for proving it was not my fault.:) Since we are dealing with F1 I am sure that more than meets Max’s level of require proof.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pmScott Woodwiss said:
yep very good editing. again thanks very much
September 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pmChristine said:
Exactly. I have no complaints. I’m looking forward to it.
Although, if he gets to be proud of the idea, I would like it known both new names were mine
September 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pmAlex Andronov said:
There’s been a terrible error! The bit where Shaun said something nice about my interview (that wasn’t an interview) last week was cut!!!
I am only joking about this… I did get a lot of my mentions in the show already!
September 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pmme said:
damn those people who want shorter shows.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pmFlibster said:
Talking about the engines….
Also remember that back in the 80’s they didn’t have the pneumatic valve systems that they have now. They purely used springs. This limited them to 16000rpm as opposed to the 19000rpm limits we have now. That made the engine sound a lot different back then.
When you consider thats 2000rpm down on the 21000rpm peaks we were having at then end of the V10 era.
Engine sounds from outside will remain similar, but with a turbo whistle and the wastegate chatter *if you can hear it over the engines*
September 1st, 2008 at 6:17 pmJoe said:
I just read the Spa thing, wut. Seriously……….******* **** **** AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! No, please……….**** you FIA >_<
September 1st, 2008 at 7:11 pmConnor said:
Isn’t Mario Andretti an American F1 Champion? It says so on the formula 1 website….
Also, I have to admit that I am a Kimi fan, but I thought that this is an interesting take on the whole kimi motivation thing: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/8/8281.html
September 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pmme said:
yes and no. mario was born in italy, he just acquired US citizenship at an early age.
i should’ve clarified the statement with “native-born”, but i was trying not to swallow a pen lid at the time. soz.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:45 pmSteven Roy said:
In motor racing a drver’s nationality is dictated by the issuer of his license. Mario had an American license so technically he was American even though he was born in Italy.
Schumacher technically was the first German world champion even though Jochen Rindt was born in Germany but he moved to Austria and had an Austrian license so he became the first Austrian champion.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:51 pmme said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you consider nico to be german. i say no, because he went to school in monaco. but he’s registered where he is for marketing and financial reasons.
technically german, but monegasque to us
September 1st, 2008 at 8:34 pmSteven Roy said:
Great editting Christine. I can’t bellieve you made all that happend yesterday sound that good.
I watched the IRL race yesterday on the IRL website and it came to mind while listening to you discuss Mexican F1 coverage. On their website they never cut from the video of the race but they feed in audio adverts with no logs or products on the screen. I have to say I was really surprised about that.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:20 pmAlianora La Canta said:
i should’ve clarified the statement with “native-born”, but i was trying not to swallow a pen lid at the time. soz. {me - 4 comments ago}
I’ve heard of several excuses for not being clear enough for the intended audience before, but that is the best and most amusing one I’ve heard yet
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 amJordan Allen said:
Ali:
Would swallowing a pen lid classify as a “sporting-related” injury roughly on the same level as “Massa on a lift?”
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:40 amMattw said:
I don’t think that Kimi is ‘bored’ - ‘distracted’ may be a better way of putting it, or ‘lacking in focus’ maybe?
I remember when Kimi first went to Ferrari’ people who knew about Kimi’s private life whispered that he may have trouble keeping his mind on the job.
You have to say that while Kimi may have chaffed in the McLaren environment, they did get a lot more out of him as a driver than Ferrari are able to.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:45 amMattw said:
A bit of a mute point really as Niko has not won a WC yet.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amAlianora La Canta said:
Would swallowing a pen lid classify as a “sporting-related” injury roughly on the same level as “Massa on a lift?” {Jordan Allen - 4 comments ago}
Assuming it was a ventilated pen lid, I’d say so. Otherwise it’s probably a sporting-related death. Though hopefully me will have managed not to swallow the pen lid in the end, thus keeping the debate moot.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pmAlex Andronov said:
My guess is that this will work in IE8.
Will my guess be as good as Ollies?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Has anyone had a look at the SuperLeague Formula cars? there’s videos on youtube of it, and it has a V12!
It’s essentially and updated Panoz Champ Car chassis with a V12, and it’s awesome.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:38 pmFlibster said:
Yet to be brave enough to try IE8 on my test machine. I may have to install it though.
I am awaiting the release tomorrow of Google’s Chrome browser. That sounds really cool.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 pmOllie said:
Will what work in IE8? Sidepodcast? Probably. It works in Camino, Safari, Firefox and most importantly for MSIE because it’s very different, IE7*. Besides, who cares about…
…sorry, I can’t say that and mean it. I love you all, I promise. IE8 actually looks to be another serious improvement - Microsoft are finally sorting themselves out.
*Acually just checked on a work’s computer (IE7). It’s left aligned. And I believe there’s a drop.io screenshot detailing a live app problem.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:30 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Yeah, apparantly Spurs did well but didn’t win.
Seems as if we are carrying our form into racing now.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:33 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Its more or less the same in all sports. Footballers nowadays play for countries their mam or grandmother were born in. Speedway riders only have a few places which hand licenses out, that is why a Norwegian is riding under a Polish license
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:22 pmme said:
alex was just testing the live comments for us in IE8. sounds (and looks) like it’s more standards compliant than previous versions, so yay for microsoft.
yeah, IE6 and IE7 both suck. we could’ve tried harder to make the site consistent in those browsers, but secretly i figured it might encourage people to buy a mac.
it does flibster, but it’s windows only to start with
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 pmme said:
appears to be out now:
http://www.google.com/chrome
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:59 pmAlex Andronov said:
Chrome?
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 pmAlex Andronov said:
Sorry… that wasn’t clear… Chrome works too… (interestingly same exact layering problem with the podcast badge over the words “Thing-a-ma-gig” as IE8… They must be in league…
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 pmme said:
shouldn’t it mimic safari? how odd.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
just had to share this with you guys. this is a demo preview video for a 1991 f1 mod for rFactor. Please listen especially to the Ferrari V12 engine in the Minardi and then tell me how real that sounds
I just heard it and I was like “OMFG!” 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PPpR6ziVqo
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 pmSteven Roy said:
I had to visit my local Kwik Fit yesterday and give them a ludicrous amount of money in return for a few feet of metal pipe complete with catalytic converter and 60 quids worth of lamda sensor. That in itself is of no interest to anyone except the guy who fitted it was the double of Kimi Raikkonen. Is kimi looking for a post-F1 career?
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 pmme said:
i really want to appreciate the video, but to me it sounds like an f1 car. do you have a current example you can share so i can be amazed at the improvement too?
you sure it wasn’t another ferrari commercial?
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pmSteven Roy said:
It was an odd Ferrari commercials as the place had two BMWs, a Toyota, a Nissan and a Citroen. Someone did phone to make sure they had an exhaust for a FIAT Punto but no Ferraris.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 pmScott Woodwiss said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YmoQflrfI&feature=related that’s the one i think that’s closest to it
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 amScott Woodwiss said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYF3T2LMZCM that one’s a good one too. listen to both and compare to the v12 in the demo video.
Yup, we’re geeking out about engines again
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:39 amAlex Andronov said:
It does. I have just checked. You get the same thing when using Safari on the PC. I think the PC part is the essential difference. This is only via the live comment live… thing.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 amLe BOL said:
Hmm, Sato in Toro Rosso? During the next Jerez test? Fantastic! The raging Japanese bull!!! Go Taku, yeah!
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 amChristine said:
In the Belgium preview quotes, Raikkonen says:
“When I was a little boy I like to send postcards and I never imagined that one day I might be able to apply a stamp with my face on it. That will be really something I can tell my grandchildren.”
Made me chuckle, but I guess there’s not much you can say about getting a stamp made for you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:49 amLe BOL said:
Yeah, I was also wondering (last night talking to myself in a monologue after “testing” a new brand of local wine) why on earth Renault factory team and Red Bull “mothership” team are wasting time on their own? Wouldn’t it be easier to merge these two operations, with superbudget, massive brain power and good drivers (I think 2009 RBR driver line-up looks more promising than yet-to-materialize-flavio-managed-cheap-driver-pulp Renault thing; man, they gotta get rid of expensive and useless Alonso circa 2008 and do it ASAP) they could imitate williams-renault 1990s partnership, I bet Carlos Ghosn would love that? I mean, let’s face it - or let RF1 bosses face it - they’re basically back to 1998-2001 Benetton situation, odd podium here and there but nothing else.
Besides, Dacia brand is probably outselling Renault and Nissan right now, I’m thinking of buying Dacia myself, cheap and angry car. Who needs this “Formula 1 for car manufacturers” thing if none of those currently involved in F1 sell cheap cars? If only they aim at middle-class fat family men who like to crash fast German cars on public roads while on their way to the nearest restaurant? Come on, private teams is all I want, less PR and more action.
And on a final note - the Mole column is back with some decent analysis. Finally.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 amFlibster said:
…and as such, the primary basis of it’s appeal at the moment. :p it is really cool as well. For a beta it’s extremely polished and stable.
I was forced to use a Mac Pro for a few weeks. I was so glad to get back to a real PC afterwards.
Anyway, back to F1.
Anyone mentioned the rumours of Coulthard leaving after Monza? Bringing Vettel up a few races early and giving them the opportunity to try out some new boys in the Toro Rosso. Sato, Senna etc….
Imagine Sato and Senna in the same team together - how many broken cars can they cope with there?
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 amSteven Roy said:
Normally I like the Mole but the latest column is just ridiculous. The idea that a turbocharger is green because it recovers energy from the exhaust is ridiculously misleading. That is a bigger lie than KERS being good for road cars. A turbo recovers exhaust enrgy to power an air pump so that more fuel can be pumped in and burnt. That is not green. The idea that F1 should have small turbos. Yeeeuchhh! How small 600-800cc? Are we really going to have smaller engines in F1 cars than on Moto GP bikes?
Active aero with auto- turbulence-sensors. This is the F1 drivers championship not the Eurofighter Typhoon championship.
It is almost like the Mole has been replaced and someone else has written the column. Maybe Max has infiltrated the department and replaced the Mole with his place man. Alan Donnelly or someone.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 amme said:
hehe
if i recall, the last column wasn’t that great either.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 amme said:
newey at renault. an interesting concept le bol, i like where you’re coming from there.
is there any chance they’ll decorate the garage this week in his honour? a million or so tiny little kimi’s adorning the wall.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 amAlex Andronov said:
I wonder if Stuart C knows who it is?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmStuart C said:
Afternoon all,
You rang?
It used to be Eric Silbermann, I think. He’s now head of PR at RBR. Not sure who does it now – probably Joe himself.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pmAlex Andronov said:
Now that’s good
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmme said:
impressive!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 pmScott Woodwiss said:
back in the 80s, the engines were no smaller than 1.5L. Yet they could still put out over 1000hp.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:12 pmme said:
can’t tell if ollie’s site isn’t sending trackbacks, or ours isn’t receiving them, so instead i’ll point y’all in his direction manually:
http://blogf1.co.uk/2008/09/03/anti-social-formula-one-media-part-ii/
…i think he’s angling for a pint too.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:14 pmSteven Roy said:
That is precisely my point. BMW had around 1500bhp in qualifying trim and were racing with around 1200bhp. I say around because their dynamometer only went to around 1200 so they had to extrapolate. Add in 20 years of new materials, electronics, software and all the new engine knowledge and 2000bhp is not far away and development will start from there. So to get around similar levels of performance as now you need less than half. Half would give 1000bhp ish but you now have a massively lighter engine. Bear in mind we have more power now from a rev restricted, materials restricted 2.4 V8 than we had from unlimited 3 litres when the turbos were around.
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:12 pmOllie said:
Well, I’m always angling for a pint from anyone who’s willing to to be angled.
But reading between the lines, all I’m doing is voicing opinion and hopefully generating thoughts.
Thanks for manually adding trackback, I appreciate it. My own post trackbacked to my own (other) post, so it should have worked cross-sites, especially as we use the same CMS. I’ll look into it at the weekend and see if there’s any weird issues happening at my end.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 pmSteven Roy said:
This should really be in the mangled pronoun thread but if drivers can mangle their pronouns I should be able to mangle the location of my comments.
I have just started the latest issue of Motor Sport and I have to say it is a cracker and I found a very interesting pronoun related comment from Eddie Cheever. In the original thread I said that Nigel Mansell was the ultimate user of ‘we’ instead of I. Now according to Cheever it turns out the whole thing is a complete affectation.
Cheever is talking about the short lived GP Masters series. “When I was talking to Mansell on his own, it was just Nigel and me, but as soon as anyone else came into the room the ‘we’ (Cheever’s quote marks) thing came out again - you know , ‘We are not happy with the car…’ What the hell’s that all about? Does anybody know?”
I have to say I am amazed by this. Not that Mansell was capable of an affectation because they were his stock in trade but that such a thing maintained over more than two decades could be an affectation.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:48 amStuart C said:
Must go and look!
By the way, it struck me last night (as I was drying the dishes) that Eric used to write ‘Eff One’ rather than the Mole. So it’s back to the drawing board.
I think the problem with affectations is that they develop their own momentum and the ‘affectator’ can’t help but do them once he/she has an audience…
September 4th, 2008 at 10:02 amme said:
it occurs to me, i’m not sure i’ve ever written / said anything worthy of an alcoholic beverage.
i must consult our product placement manager and see if he has any suggestions that may offer me some redemption.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pmAlianora La Canta said:
You have a product placement manager? News to me.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:09 pmme said:
it’s what the no#1 driver does when he’s not driving
September 4th, 2008 at 2:22 pmSteven Roy said:
Do I have to do everything round here?
If when you are sober you can write anything worthy an alcoholic beverage try getting drunk first and writing afterwards. If you produce something worthy of the drink you have an ongoing model to work to if not who cares you will be happy anyway. The other option is change the name on something Christine wrote and take credit for it.
This advice is brought to you by Philips shavers proving it is as CLOSE to good advice as possible.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmAlianora La Canta said:
But I don’t even like the taste of alcoholic drinks…
September 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pmme said:
not even peach schnapps? it just tastes of peach.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:13 pmJordan Allen said:
Do not worry. “Me” and I will gladly drink your share of whatever winnings we get.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pmAlianora La Canta said:
not even peach schnapps? it just tastes of peach. {me - 2 comments ago}
I tried that once when I was 18. I’m pretty sure peach schnapps don’t burn the back of your throat (or feel like they are) or taste quite that oily (as in, it tasted like there was more oil than fruit).
“Me” and I will gladly drink your share of whatever winnings we get. {Jordan Allen - previous comment}
That’s fine by me
September 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pmme said:
double
September 4th, 2008 at 9:21 pmJordan Allen said:
“hicc!” triple
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