Live Commenting: Belgium - Free Practice 2
FP1 wasn’t a spectacular start to the racing weekend, but the greenery makes all the difference after the blandness of the last location. It was dry to start with, and mercifully, we didn’t have to wait too long for some proper lap times - amazingly it was a Ferrari putting down the first marker.
It worked out well for them, for although Raikkonen had a slow start, the pair topped the times for the first session.
A little bit of rain spiced up the action towards the end, but it was mostly a few slip ups here and there, and no major incidents.
Things to watch out for in Free Practice 2 include the Toro Rosso boys, who both seem to be showing well again this weekend. Heidfeld hasn’t exactly shone yet, but then he was only just behind Kubica in 11th this morning. Also, Alonso is putting in a fine performance so far, and it will be interesting to see if the Renault can keep it up all day.
At the bottom of the timesheets, both Hondas feature prominently, whilst Nakajima fell behind the Force India boys. He will be looking to improve somewhat, although Rosberg doesn’t seem to be finding it easy either.
We’ll be watching ITV’s live stream and scrutinising Bernie’s live timing service, but feel free to post any other useful streams in the comments. Talking of which, don’t forget the Live Commenting Live… Thing for the auto-refresh feature.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pmme said:
both renault drivers driving incredibly slowly on the racing line, impeding everyone else and generally making a nuisance of themselves. maybe.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pmKathi said:
Spa first practice
September 5th, 2008 at 12:29 pmme said:
cheers kathi, am still downloading the bmw file!
September 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pmme said:
global forecast system says:
probably as accurate as fom.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pmChristine said:
This isn’t to do with Free Practice at all, but check this out. Chaos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7599639.stm
September 5th, 2008 at 12:41 pmChristine said:
Do you know what that means though?
September 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pmme said:
nope.
i think the yellowy green line and above means more chance of rain.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:51 pmme said:
i believe the words that come to mind here are “oh dear”:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70292
September 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pmJeremy said:
I’m here from Sydney. Hello all!
Live timing and Live commenting only.
All action comments appreciated
September 5th, 2008 at 12:55 pmme said:
hey jeremy. can do, will do.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pmKathi said:
what did I do? Why does live timing hate me so?
September 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pmme said:
tis okay here. just refreshed.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmme said:
fom saying rain in 30 mins. bmw saying rain possible in 20-25mins.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmAlex Andronov said:
Yeah… This seems like something that would be classified as bad…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmme said:
that would be the final nail in the BGP coffin?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmKathi said:
I can’t log in
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmAlianora La Canta said:
ITV Video locked up, so I’ve had to restart my entire browser set-up. Not easy, let me tell you!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmme said:
oh bernie, bernie, bernie
September 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmme said:
all good here. cars pouring onto the track.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pmAlianora La Canta said:
FOM says rain in 30, BMW says rain in 25… …I know who’d I trust. I think the next twenty minutes or so will be extremely busy.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pmAlex Andronov said:
Ah strange. I’ve discovered a weird Live commenting live… thing bug.
If you switch back to the post “I’m doing it a different way” and then wait. If somebody makes a new comment on this thread then it shows up there. I don’t know what would happen if somebody made a new post there…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmme said:
vettel starts a flyer.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmJeremy said:
Even Kimi is out!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pmme said:
ooh. okay, ta. will look into that.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pmSteven Roy said:
There may be trouble ahead…..
I read something yesterday where East Midlands airport had reported them for building temporary structures related to Moto GP that interfered with their air space and caused them to divert flights as they had to shorten their runway temporarily. Some of the structures were 8 metres high which shouldn’t really affect planes. But they are in trouble for it anyway.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:05 pmJeremy said:
Lewis starts fast!
Why aren’t you coming out Mr Webber?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pmme said:
kathi, i think there’s a problem with bernie’s site. if you’re not logged in already, you can’t get in.
just trying it on a couple of browsers.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmpmtate said:
after three attempts Live timing started so looks like he has a problem
Paul
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmme said:
ian phillips on 5live, saying fif1 didn’t get through program this morning. working hard to make up for lost time.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmKathi said:
boooooh!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmSteven Roy said:
Is it just me or has the picture been unsquished?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pmme said:
cheers pmtate, glad you’re in now.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:09 pmme said:
piccy is now as it should be
September 5th, 2008 at 1:09 pmme said:
bourdais over cooks it and goes wide. back in the pits now.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pmSteven Roy said:
Good. I don’t need to get my eyes polished just yet then
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The Donington Park situation looks rubbish. The general idea, when running a circuit near an airport, is to communicate with the airport. I imagine they’d have got permission from the airport had they asked for it (as long as the structures were not in a stupid location).
Rain at Les Combes already?!?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pmme said:
kubica told “the rain is coming”, they’re going for options.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pmme said:
more spots on the camera.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pmAlianora La Canta said:
That was a very short 25-30 minutes…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pmme said:
kubs enters the pits.
nick already in there though and it’s a bit chaotic in that garage.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pmme said:
September 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pmRocket said:
Sorry to bother you guys with this again but does anyone have a webtvcast address? the one that was working before doesn’t seem to want to this time.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pmme said:
tamara ecclestone is in the pits wearing rbr clothing? or is that a similar looking una?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pmAlianora La Canta said:
That’s a revolting shade of pink for those pac-a-macs!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:13 pmAlex Andronov said:
I imagine that this dude just found out that Simon Gillett and Bernie have been friends for a long time and that sometimes friends ask friends to pretend to do something but not actually do something for money. Alledgedly.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pmme said:
as yet no. still looking.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pmFlibster said:
Back from lunch and just waiting for my espresso machine to warm up.
How are we all this afternoon then?
Looks like they are all heading for the pits to wait for the rain to fully arrive or fully leave. There’s definitely some wet onMmassa’s camera.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmme said:
still quite a bit of action going on down the field. probably on borrowed time though.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:15 pmSteven Roy said:
Rocket,
Try http://www.tvunetworks.com/ . Click on watch TV tab then choose 53060 Wheels. They are showing this session
September 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmme said:
flav on tv is shaking his head. ahh, if only we could hear the radio.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmSteven Roy said:
Piquet: Mr Flavio, do I turn left or right at the top of the hill?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmFlibster said:
when I typed it there was only 3 cars on track. I need a new internet connection…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmme said:
pat symmonds glued to the weather radar on the pit wall.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I’m not surprised Flavio’s shaking his head - Piquet Jr should not be 17th when his team-mate can manage 4th.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pmBG said:
live stream for non-UK residents:
http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php
September 5th, 2008 at 1:18 pmme said:
cheers bg
September 5th, 2008 at 1:18 pmRocket said:
Thanks me. And that prompts me to ask me, has there been discussion on whether or not you might choose a more, how shall I put this, intriguing nickname?
Not that I dislike me and we all know who me is. Was just a thought. For all I know there may be a very interesting story behind me.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmFlibster said:
According to live timing’s weather - it is now officially a wet track!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pmme said:
maybe we’ll get into that when the rain comes.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmlou said:
hey everyone. How are we all? i found a computer so i can join in for fp2.
have i missed much so far?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmSteven Roy said:
Alonso really hit the rev limiter there. Why would you do that?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmme said:
kaz managing to put in a pb in sector 3. vettel pb in s2. not that wet then?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pmRocket said:
Fair enough.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmme said:
loving the new DC camera angle.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmSteven Roy said:
Button just did three green sectors. Maybe the Honda is a hovercraft
September 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmJeremy said:
Nothing much Lou
September 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pmFlibster said:
There appears to be a puddle in the corner before that straight - wet wheels spinning maybe.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmAlex Andronov said:
The fabled Button in the rain?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmFlibster said:
Someone in the wall!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmme said:
someone off.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Five Live are saying that Webber has crashed. Oh dear.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmSteven Roy said:
Webber in the wall
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmme said:
webber in the wall.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmJeremy said:
Boo!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmRocket said:
Webber bins it nooo!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmFlibster said:
Whoops. Thats it over for Webber unless they can get the car back and it’s minor damage.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Les Combes/Rivage would appear to be where the rain is.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmlou said:
i wish i could see it. my computer is having problems showing the live timings…. and the video…..
September 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmRocket said:
Was he distracted by the Ferrari?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pmSteven Roy said:
A few people have complained about live timing
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pmJeremy said:
@lou - Kathi was having trouble with Live Timing earlier
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pmme said:
20th is where he’s gonna stay. holly on 5live suggesting the team may have made changes before that accident.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pmpmtate said:
News story on Donnington plane safety http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Airplane-safety-risk-Donington-Park-bosses/article-297125-detail/article.html
Paul
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pmlou said:
i’m just trying to logh into it atm….. a proxy timeout… i don’t even know what that means….
September 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmFlibster said:
Looking at the angle, suspension damage and bodywork around the wheel will be damaged - At least they have time to fix it today ready for tomorrow.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pmRocket said:
That left fron susp looked well mangled.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pmJeremy said:
He’ll be back out before the end of session!
I’m ever hopeful!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Jeremy, Webber’s car won’t be sent back to the pits until the end of the session. Even if it could be repaired in ten seconds flat, Webber’s session is over.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmJeremy said:
Bugger! Thanks!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmme said:
replays shoing glock also taking to the grass. slippery out there.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
The track is now properly wet, and Glock (the only person left on track) has crossed the grass chicane.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmlou said:
i don’t have any live timings, visual or radio
so you guys are literally my eyes and ears
September 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmJeremy said:
Can MW go out in the ‘T-Car’ or am I remembering correctly that they don’t exist anymore
September 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pmme said:
kimi just pitted. replays showing lewis, button and alonso all missing the same apex.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pmSteven Roy said:
Everybody in the pits according to live timing
September 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pmme said:
one hour to go and everyone’s in the pits, ‘cept for webber who’s in no hurry to return to the garage.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pmme said:
are teams assuming the weather will pass?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pmSteven Roy said:
Another of Max’s marvellous decisions. Multi-race engines killed T cars
September 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pmFlibster said:
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They exist, but in dismantled form. They have to ask to build up the chassis and then get it scruitineered - tomorrow morning is the next opportunity.
All because of cost cutting. They have exactly the same number of spared as last year, it’s just one set is no longer a spare car. Well done Max….
September 5th, 2008 at 1:31 pmJeremy said:
@lou - there was a link earlier to a video feed. can you access that at school?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:32 pmme said:
lewis is out of the car, while rosberg remains in his seat.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:32 pmSteven Roy said:
Try http://www.tvunetworks.com/ Lou 53060 Wheels
September 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmme said:
holly saying that horner is blaming webber for the off.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAlianora La Canta said:
T-Car not available until after the session is over, since only one car per driver is scrutineered per session.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmFlibster said:
Not true, they could take the engine out of the race car and fit it to the T-car. I think they got it down to 10 or 12 minutes at one point for an engine change. All modular systems.
Looks like they are all just waiting for the rain to stop. Could be they are confident it’s going to be a dry qualifying and race. If there was any doubt, they would have them out there.
And typing that, live timing claims Bourdais is out on track.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Bourdais is on track
September 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmSteven Roy said:
Air pressure 955. I don’t think I have ever seen it that low on live timing
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmme said:
webber looks like he’s claimed that marshalls post as he own.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmlou said:
maybe…. i will just find it and check
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Teams are waiting for either the track to dry (and make dry tyres usable) or to get wetter (to make intermediates worth the bother).
I guess it’s not fit for dry tyres right now…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmlou said:
i just moved computers in the hope that live timing would work…..
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmJeremy said:
So, no more drivers jogging back to the pits after massive fail.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pmme said:
le seb told to “box” on the radio. driving on soft tyres in this weather??
September 5th, 2008 at 1:35 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Bourdais has returned to the pits.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:35 pmlou said:
blocked by my annoying school unfortunatly…. argh, so no video for me then
i will watch the highlights later….
September 5th, 2008 at 1:35 pmJeremy said:
What does ‘box’ mean? *visions of boxing ring referee
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmme said:
they haven’t made the pit entrance any wider this year then. still a possible flashpoint in the race?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmJeremy said:
@lou - there was another one
http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Hamilton and Phillips reminiscing on Spa 1998 while Hamilton and Kovalainen have a happy chat.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmSteven Roy said:
Box is the traditional pit board signal telling a driver to pit
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pmOllie said:
Box means pit. Hi all.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmAlianora La Canta said:
“Box” is Italian for “pit”.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmSteven Roy said:
Hey Mystic Ollie. So when is the rain going to stop?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmme said:
at STR that’s always a possibility
afternoon squire
September 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pmJeremy said:
Hi Dr Nick… I mean Ollie
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmlou said:
it loads…. but it doesn’t actaully play…. it’s just black… i would post a pic into drop.io but….
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmSteven Roy said:
They are giving us a view of Webber’s non-descript energy drink car
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmme said:
and as we still have time to make the bookies…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmOllie said:
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Eddie Jordan is coming to Spa tomorrow at the request of the organisers to entertain us with music. The only reason Damon Hill’s not coming to the race is because he’s got to accompany his son Josh to a Ginetta race on Sunday…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pmme said:
lou, your school sux
September 5th, 2008 at 1:39 pmme said:
yay and yay.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:39 pmJeremy said:
@lou - dont drop ICT - it can help you learn how to SSH out through any proxies etc they have blocking this stuff
September 5th, 2008 at 1:40 pmFlibster said:
Eddie’s V10 band were pretty good. Better than that god awful energy drink he made.
Although it was funny seeing the limits of Johnny Herberts musical talent. The tambourine.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:40 pmme said:
renault are peering inside the back of their car with a camera.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:40 pmOllie said:
Sutil’s engineer saying it is still spitting a little on track.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pmAlianora La Canta said:
That’s interesting. Ralf didn’t get told to hold station at Spa 1998 because he was behind Damon on a treacherously wet circuit - he was told to hold station because he didn’t do enough work on Friday and Saturday…
September 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pmme said:
eddie made an energy drink??
September 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pmSteven Roy said:
FIF1 telling Sutil to stay in the car because a dry spell is coming. It doesn’t sound like a big dry spell because they are worried they will miss it if they have to get him back in the car
September 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pmOllie said:
Called EJ10 or something.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pmme said:
i heart ian phillips. just saying.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pmJeremy said:
Alianora - are you getting that info from the live broadcast?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pmSteven Roy said:
I saw that advertised a lot but I don’t remember seeing it in any shops
September 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmme said:
why would he do that?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmJeremy said:
You like Ian Phillips for saying it or for being the one who held Ralf back?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I’m getting that information from the Five Live broadcast.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmOllie said:
Ditto, it didn’t sell very well.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmlou said:
You would have thought considering it’s a private school it would be better… it’s just cause it’s raining there are only a few computers free…. and the ones in the 6th form centre are old…..
not sure we are gonna be learning about proxys and stuff
i think it’s like projects and stuff……
Can someone tell me the track conditions, and the top 3 fastest…. oh and how well the hondas are doing? please
September 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pmSteven Roy said:
One of Vettel’s mechanics poking at something in his engine with a screwdriver
September 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pmme said:
i like him for being straightforward, open and honest.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pmFlibster said:
Something along those lines.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmSteven Roy said:
Hamilton Massa and Raikkonen 1,2,3
Button P16
Barrichello P19
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmme said:
rubens is last bar webber who crashed. button 16th.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmOllie said:
From http://www.mattonigranddrink.com/news.php?id=72
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmAlianora La Canta said:
About the energy drink. Not only did Jordan come up with the EJ10 energy drink (which I was very miffed about not being able to get in my local shops), but they did a vodka version called V10.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 pmJeremy said:
10 laps is the most anyone has done
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pmme said:
renault may not hav ethe fastest car, but they have the best pitwall-covered-thingy. tis quite lovely.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pmOllie said:
Crazy Eddie. Was that before or after Vodka Red Bull became common?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pmSteven Roy said:
Wind is picking up a bit and someone has just fired up an engine. So…
They just shut the engine down again
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pmlou said:
thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:47 pmme said:
vettel is out.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:47 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Track conditions: damp at Les Combes/Rivage, dry at the pits area.
Top 3: Hamilton (who’s having a brake change), Massa, Raikkonen.
Hondas: 16th (Button) and 19th (Barrichello).
September 5th, 2008 at 1:48 pmSteven Roy said:
The technical term for such a construction as coined by the Lotus mechanics who were the first to have one is the prat perch
September 5th, 2008 at 1:48 pmme said:
well the renault prats look better than the other prats
September 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pmAlianora La Canta said:
When did Red Bull Vodka become common?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pmlou said:
omg i’ve just remembered autosport commentry
and just found some live timings on f1live
http://live.f1-live.com/f1/en/results/live_flash/index.html
yay!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pmSteven Roy said:
Drivers are either out their cars or have their helmets off. Lewis is lounging on top of a bench half asleep
September 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pmme said:
lewis’ car really is in bits right now.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmme said:
vettel’s confident enough to go for a lap.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Vettel’s running
September 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmme said:
he’s not quick though.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pmSteven Roy said:
About 10 minutes after Red Bull became popular. Apparently you get drunkbut you don’t get sleepy
September 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pmme said:
pressure dropped significantly at the track now. wind speed is erratic.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pmJeremy said:
rough lap time?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pmOllie said:
Vettel: 6s down on Hamilton’s time.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pmSteven Roy said:
I just had a comment on Red Bull and vodka disappear
September 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pmJeremy said:
you didn’t use the words Phillips or shaver in there
September 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pmOllie said:
Vettel: 1.55.738 (I think, Live Timing is being a ‘mare for me today)
September 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pmme said:
found.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:53 pmme said:
how come no-one else is out there then.
he’s not uber quick, but the car’s stable.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:53 pmJeremy said:
First sector time is reasonable
September 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pmJeremy said:
32.2 first sector, 49.7 second sector
September 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pmAlianora La Canta said:
That doesn’t help me very much. I don’t know when Red Bull became popular. All I know is that it was already popular when I started to become aware of different soft drinks (other than supermarket-brand fizzy drinks and squashes) in 2001.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pmme said:
fry saying it cold and wet so they’re struggling. i hate to point out the obvious fact that everyone else is coping.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSteven Roy said:
He has to lose a load of time in S2 because that is all the high G bends
September 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pmme said:
fissi joining the fray.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pmlou said:
only problem with these live timings is there is no sector times…. but at least i can see something..
September 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Fisi’s on track!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pmOllie said:
Vettel: Improved to 2.5 down by 2nd sector.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmme said:
williams prepping kaz.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmSteven Roy said:
Piquet getting in the car and quite a few engines running
September 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmme said:
piquet looks ridiculous as he tries to enter the renault cockpit. too many winglets!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pmOllie said:
Piquet climbing into car, Rosberg out.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pmSteven Roy said:
10 cars on track
September 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pmme said:
out? but he sat there the whole time? what in the world.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmOllie said:
Rosberg out on track.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmSteven Roy said:
out of the pits
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmme said:
kimi loses a rear wing.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmSteven Roy said:
Kimi spins
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmFlibster said:
That Raikkonen without a rear wing!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmOllie said:
Raikkonen pointing the wrong way.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmme said:
oh right. soz.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pmSteven Roy said:
& loses his rear wing
September 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmme said:
kimi’s car just snapped from under him. good save all things considered.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmOllie said:
Looks like Kimi caught a white line and the Ferrari spun into the tyre barrier. Gentle nudge, but it was enough.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmSteven Roy said:
He dropped the wingright on the racing line at Pouhon
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Kimi! If you’re going to deposit your rear wing on the track, kindly do it somewhere other than Adrian Sutil’s path. Are Ferrari trying to nobble Adrian or something?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmSteven Roy said:
Alonso in the gravel but back out
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmme said:
what’s the change time on that thing, 5-10mins?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmme said:
fissi in the barriers!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmOllie said:
Alonso also had a moment on a white line. Now that was a good catch until he fell away again.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmJeremy said:
He does that *cough* monaco *cough*
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmFlibster said:
That could be repairable by the end of the session.
And thats Fisi in the wall as well.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pmSteven Roy said:
Fis crashes into a barrier
September 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmOllie said:
Looks like Fisi was just over-zealous on the go pedal.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmSteven Roy said:
Fisi out of the car
September 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmme said:
does he have a rubber rear wing?
kimi’s leaked stuff everywhere.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmme said:
red flag.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmSteven Roy said:
Red flag
September 5th, 2008 at 2:02 pmlou said:
What did fisi do? i looked away for 2 secs and there is a red flag and everything…..
September 5th, 2008 at 2:02 pmOllie said:
Hamilton not even bothering to put helmet on.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:02 pmme said:
so, did kimi spin on his own liquid. or did the accident cause the leak?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmme said:
red digi-flags look good in the overcast conditions.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmOllie said:
Oil at T9. According to Timo’s engineer.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmSteven Roy said:
Fisi spun of hit his rear wing on a barrier did a neat 180 and hit the front wing for good measure
September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmSteven Roy said:
Kimi’s accident caused the leak
September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pmOllie said:
At least he’s thorough.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pmme said:
can’t fathom how that rear wing didn’t splinter? cleaning this oil is going to take a while.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pmme said:
September 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pmSteven Roy said:
SHouldn’t the session timer freeze when there is a red flag? It is still counting down
September 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pmme said:
that is a heck of a lot of spillage down there.
can they clear this in 25mins?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pmJeremy said:
This session really isn’t going to tell us anything, is it?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pmOllie said:
Kubica engineer agrees: Kimi crashed caused the leak.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pmAlianora La Canta said:
First Raikkonen spun at the corner with no name, crashed and lost his rear wing. We’re not sure why Raikkonen spun. However, Sutil nearly hit the wing. Then, at the same corner, Fisichella came along and spun on the liquid. Lots of damage, cue red flag.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pmlou said:
oh right
thanks. I’m looking forward to f1digest this evening… even though i have live timings i’m still pretty clueless…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:06 pmSteven Roy said:
Spa + rain = broken cars
But we knew that already
September 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pmme said:
erm. well, yeah we know that if there’s a fuel leak in during the race, the organisers cannot cope.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pmOllie said:
There’s something chuckle-worthy about seeing a crane carrying an F1 car down a racing circuit.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pmJeremy said:
haha
September 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pmme said:
kubica remains in the car, he’s confident.
marshalls have the brooms out.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmScott in Italy said:
I am here now, and it’s red flagged. wow. Is Kathi preparing the highlights session?
at least I can catchup on all those comments now. you guys look like you’ve been busy
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmOllie said:
But don’t seem to making any impact…?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmSteven Roy said:
They should have some oil absorbing powder or something. You can’t just sweep it away
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmOllie said:
Massa’s also waiting in the car.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmme said:
am still downloading fp1 footage
September 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pmJeremy said:
Live timing says track is green?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:09 pmme said:
at silverstone they had big dust lorries. i imagine they can’t make it up eau rouge here.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:09 pmOllie said:
Re: Kimi crash, the track looked okay but is was far over on the line while on the throttle.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pmSteven Roy said:
Race Control
Session will re-start at 15:10
September 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pmOllie said:
Session will restart at 15:10.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pmScott in Italy said:
Vettel’S team: talking about changing tyres “if you’re happy with those, we save money for Bridgestone”.
did i hear right?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pmJeremy said:
cars on track?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmOllie said:
Green light.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmme said:
what?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Nearly everyone queuing to come out.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmOllie said:
Loads of cars going out on to the track.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmme said:
cept for kimi… oh dear. much damage.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Raikkonen’s car has substantial damage apparently, not just a rear wing.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pmFlibster said:
The endplate was definitely broken - wonder if the crash structure took most of the impact
September 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pmme said:
amazing what a broom can achieve!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:13 pmSteven Roy said:
There is a crash structure near the point where the wing is mounted so probably that is damaged. That is the normal problem
September 5th, 2008 at 2:13 pmlalpedal said:
In the replays the track looked dry as Kimi drove away from his accident. No sign of any liquids leaking. Did the oily-water come out of the tyre barriers?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:13 pmJeremy said:
So is it worth going out for the leaders? What can they learn?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:14 pmme said:
ahhhh, good spot lalpedal. could well have been, and that would explain brooms not dust.
cheers
September 5th, 2008 at 2:14 pmFlibster said:
As thats bolted to the gearbox and floor it will take a while to replace.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:15 pmme said:
sutil put in a green s3. the track is good and they should have stuff to get through.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:16 pmOllie said:
Kazuki ran well in S1 as well, but middle sector is still questionable.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:16 pmSteven Roy said:
S3 is all downhill though
September 5th, 2008 at 2:16 pmOllie said:
lol.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:16 pmAlianora La Canta said:
What kind of sensible barrier design releases water when struck?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:17 pmOllie said:
People with LT: What are the lap times looking like?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:17 pmme said:
loving that dc camera shot.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmlou said:
whats up with glock? I’m on a crappy old computer, in the 6th form common room and i’m having problems keeping up with everything…..
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmOllie said:
Heikki starts a ‘quick’ lap.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmOllie said:
0.27 down on LH.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmFlibster said:
All most of them are is car tyres stacked and tied together. Very effective and also environmentally friendly. Unfortunately they also store water inside the tyre and when hit they blop it all out.
Same design they have all over the world.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmme said:
hmm, not that great actually. s1 and s3 are green. s2, not so much. dc just wen something like 3 seconds a lap slower than earlier.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Rain’s arrived again…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pmJeremy said:
Yellows?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pmSteven Roy said:
Piquet off
September 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pmme said:
piquet spins, same place as kimi.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pmJeremy said:
As i say it, it disappears from the Live Timing screen
September 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Piquet’s put a wheel on the kerb and lost the car. Yellow flags…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pmme said:
carbon copy of the kimi accident. pat looking reall unhappy on the wall.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pmSteven Roy said:
Piquet went of at Rivage. Kimi went off at Pouhon
September 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pmOllie said:
Same place as Kimi’s accident.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Mr Piquet Jr. will not be popular with Renault…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pmJeremy said:
Damage report?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pmme said:
oh, sorry? looks exactly the sameon tv. must pay more attention.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pmSteven Roy said:
Radio
Any damage Nelson?
Yeah there is damage
Very informative
September 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pmJeremy said:
Rosberg goes purple in S3
September 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pmme said:
piquet says “yes, there’s damage”. hehe.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pmme said:
wow, and up to p5. c’mon the williams.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pmOllie said:
To be fair, how Piquet really tell what is and what isn’t damaged on the back of the car.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pmFlibster said:
More broken cars.
Anyone else find it entertaining to read the FIA technical stewards report after every race to see what parts were replaced in the Parc Ferme after qualifying?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmSteven Roy said:
He must know whether he hit the barrier with a wheel or a wing
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmOllie said:
I need to shoot of to work, so I’ll love you and leave you. Catch ya’ll later.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmme said:
oh, how must ross brawn be praying for sunday rain right now.
17th and 18th. doh.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmme said:
cheers ollie.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmJeremy said:
@Flibster - linkage?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmScott in Italy said:
i haven’t had time to read everything so apologies if i repeat earlier comments, but does anyone know why webber is at the bottom of live timing with just 7 laps?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmSteven Roy said:
Nico and Kovy green S1
September 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pmJeremy said:
Mark crashed early
September 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pmme said:
he’s currently sitting in the forest, afriad to go back to the pits.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pmSteven Roy said:
He stuck his car in a wall
September 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pmlou said:
September 5th, 2008 at 2:25 pmSteven Roy said:
Nico and Glock green S2. It must be drying now
September 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pmJeremy said:
Massa purple S1
September 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pmme said:
massa on for a flyer.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pmme said:
alonso purple s2.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pmSteven Roy said:
Alonso P1
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmme said:
alonso jumps kovi for p1.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmme said:
trying to please the ING sponsors there.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmFlibster said:
Thats for Australia this year - it’s the Press information page at the fia’s web site. It’s the Scrutineering Reports that shows what was done - also shows the times in the weighbridge and stuff like that.
I find it interesting, but I have no life.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmJeremy said:
Massa P2!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmAlianora La Canta said:
What’s Alonso doing in P1?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:27 pmme said:
ok, so what have renault done to their friday engine?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:28 pmFlibster said:
Hmmmm…ok, it nuked the link.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressinformation/f1pressinfo/australia/Pages/australia.aspx
September 5th, 2008 at 2:28 pmJeremy said:
And the Marlboro man is trying to get some attention his way…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:29 pmJeremy said:
Thanks Flibster - I will have to find the time to read it and look for similar in the future
September 5th, 2008 at 2:29 pmme said:
raining on the cameras.
alonso timied it to perfection.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:29 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Is Sutil’s P8 real or has he skipped a chicane again?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSteven Roy said:
S2 times have all gone up by 2 secs so I guess it is raining again
September 5th, 2008 at 2:30 pmme said:
rosberg being pushed down the pitlane.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pmScott in Italy said:
i discovered these last race - I love them. anything to help Valencia seem interesting
September 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pmSteven Roy said:
Alonso P1 Piquet P19
September 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pmJeremy said:
They’ve lost their jumper cables and WD40?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pmme said:
any idea what we can conclude from that then?
renault have brought back qualifying engines?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pmScott in Italy said:
thanks for the update on what i missed. hopefully i can catch the replays somewhere….
September 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pmKathi said:
ok let’s see:
Webber, Kimi, Fisi crashing
what else?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:33 pmJeremy said:
It wasn’t that quick compared to FP1 but it was still quicker than Massa
September 5th, 2008 at 2:33 pmFlibster said:
You’re welcome.
it shows interesting stuff, like at the last race between qualifying and the race, McLaren changed nothing on either car.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pmme said:
kubicca went to do a practice start and stalled it.
oops!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Oh dear. Kubica’s car has stalled on the practise start.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pmFlibster said:
D’OH!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pmScott in Italy said:
a driver helping push a car? wow. in 2008!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pmme said:
kubica now pushing his car off the grid as button practices a whole parade lap and start. clever.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:36 pmme said:
that’s the main bits. nothing else springs to mind. thanks kathi.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:36 pmFlibster said:
Piquet crashing too.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I would ask for the bit when Ian Phillips was reminiscing about Spa 1998, but I don’t think it’s even possible to record off Five Live…
September 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pmme said:
gah. i normally record all of fivelive (mostly in case scott texts in), but i forgot until halfway through. may not have that bit, sorry.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:40 pmme said:
oh, kathi. if you happen upon the new DC camera angle i wouldn’t mind seeing that in hight quailty.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:40 pmJeremy said:
How do you listen to 5Live? Any chance I can get it in Oz?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:41 pmSteven Roy said:
Just showed the back of Kimi’s car after the accident and nothing obvious leaking or spraying from it
September 5th, 2008 at 2:41 pmme said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/5livesportsextra/schedule/
it’ll need a proxy hack though.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pmme said:
looking at the tarmac you can see all the water is spilling out from the tyres. twas a good spot by lalpedal.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pmJeremy said:
Thought so… I’ll need to put some effort in. Anyone fancy setting up a machine for me in the UK? (half kidding)
September 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pmSteven Roy said:
Not the F1 progs. They are only available in the UK
September 5th, 2008 at 2:46 pmAlianora La Canta said:
i normally record all of fivelive (mostly in case scott texts in), but i forgot until halfway through. {me}
No worries. If you have it, please could you put it up, otherwise I understand it was a glitch and these thing happen sometimes.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:48 pmme said:
final fp2 times:
September 5th, 2008 at 2:49 pmme said:
just listening back, sorry i don’t.
must remember - record ian phillips at all times.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:53 pmme said:
oooh, who’s put the bmw pics in drop.io?
September 5th, 2008 at 2:55 pmScott in Italy said:
Scott in Italy just added the BMW pics. If you want better resolution and bigger sizes, just let me know
they took a month but i got around to it.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:00 pmme said:
appreciated scott. not only do i not understand why they have a lemon, but why is it in a basket?
September 5th, 2008 at 3:06 pmlou said:
damn school! i’ve just had to go to the computer technicans and plead with them to unblock sidepodcast for me, cause they blocked it while i was on it, so when i pressed f5 i found out it was blocked! at least it’s unblocked now but that was really annoying!
September 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pmme said:
wha? are they just blocking sites that people actually use then?
you should tell them they may as well hit the off button and call it a day.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:10 pmKathi said:
DC’s new camera
September 5th, 2008 at 3:12 pmScott in Italy said:
They had them all around the place - These little baskets with a lemon or two in them. It was meant to symbolise their “spring display”. I asked one of the BMW people because I didn’t understand it either. I think they might be representing a bird’s nest? new growth and all that??? To me a lemon near a car, means “this car is a lemon”. Cultural differences apparently. the BMW-man (like Batman but far less powerful) understood what lemon meant in other cultures, and had a laugh with me - especially when I mentioned the performance of the 2008 F1.08 or whatever this is (I assume it is a rep of the F1.08 or maybe last years? The tyres even have FIA barcodes on them.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:16 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I am currently in the process of uploading the practise-qualifying-race comparitor. It should work better than last time, because I’ve chased up a couple of calculation errors (strange how they creep into a supposedly-automated system) and improved the qualifying element to try to reduce the effect of “glitches” (by reducing the difference between predicted and average qualifying by a fraction based on number of qualifyings done).
September 5th, 2008 at 3:16 pmlou said:
lol they don’t like blogs and social networking sites, so they block those kinda sites till like 5….so we have to do work. But my arguement was that i am the only one in the school that uses the site (well i assume so cause i haven’t come across anyone who is interested in f1) so what harm can it do. :s
September 5th, 2008 at 3:23 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Summary of comparitor predictions:
Qualifying
- I’m still not convinced that the glitches for Webber and Piquet Jr. are resolved by the above attempt, so I’m cautious about their P20 and P19
- Expect Nakajima, Sutil and Barrichello to be knocked out of Q1
- Button and Fisichella may make it through Q1, but more likely won’t
- Heidfeld, Trulli and Rosberg will almost certainly make Q2 without making Q3
The top 6 are predicted to be:
Massa-Kovalainen
Hamilton-Raikkonen
Alonso-Vettel
Race
The top 6 are predicted to be:
Massa-Hamilton
Kovalainen-Sutil (I wish he would get 4th, but I think the comparitor may be slightly confused here!)
Alonso-Raikkonen
September 5th, 2008 at 3:26 pmAlianora La Canta said:
my arguement was that i am the only one in the school that uses the site (well i assume so cause i haven’t come across anyone who is interested in f1) so what harm can it do. {lou - 2 comments ago}
It’s sad when you have to make that kind of argument, lou, because it means nobody shares your enthusiasm. But it’s good that your school technicians can be convinced that the network users want sites to be taken off the blacklist.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:27 pmme said:
interesting, club force india are now on twitter:
http://twitter.com/clubforce
nice to see, shame they picked the wrong microblog though.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:28 pmme said:
how very odd. they do make for a nice picture mind you.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:31 pmme said:
that sounds very possible. cheers alianora, now what to do about fantasy racers?
wow. that’s a race finish i’d like to see.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pmlou said:
yeah most people in my year think i am so strange, thats why i’m so glad i found sidepodcast - it makes me feel like it’s not a totally strange thing to be into
September 5th, 2008 at 3:42 pmScott in Italy said:
I had to move from Australia to find more people that really care about F1 is
And yet, ironically, I still find myself talking online to find other enthusiasts. Guess I could have saved myself the move!
September 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pmFlibster said:
You do get some strange questions when you tell people that you have worked in F1.
Surprisingly, the commonest question for me was, “Whats that then?”
September 5th, 2008 at 3:46 pmAlianora La Canta said:
F1 was considered uncool at my secondary school, largely because it wasn’t shopping or bullying (it wasn’t even cool to support football, never mind any other sport). My IT class in sixth form was more receptive, and I have vivid memories of the class on Monday morning after Brazil 2003 nearly getting derailed because several members of the class (including me) were having a vigourous debate on the merits of Turn 3 and the FIA’s stewarding decision…
September 5th, 2008 at 3:48 pmAlianora La Canta said:
Flibster, that sounds like most of the people I meet. Only about a third of the people I’ve spoken to about F1 since leaving sixth form even knew what F1 was, and if they did, they would have the most spectacular misconceptions about its current state. In 2006, someone asked me with complete seriousness what team Damon Hill was driving for, and as recently as the end of last year, I was told F1 was boring because “Schumacher wins everything”.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:49 pmKathi said:
Webber not much to see really.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:56 pmSteven Roy said:
There was a survey by some advertising mob recently that found that a ridiculous number of people thought JPS was still sponsoring F1 cars.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:57 pmKathi said:
Kimi
September 5th, 2008 at 4:04 pmSteven Roy said:
Nice to see the link to the Colin McRae tribute in dropio. I scanned Autosport yesterday and there was a piece about it .
There was also a comment from David Richards saying that he had agreed a deal with Colin for him to return full time to the WRC this season and that the day before the accident Colin had been having discussions with Dave Lapworth who heads up Prodrive’s rallying operation about what he wanted done to the car.
So not only did we lose a great champions and ambassador for the sport we missed out in seeing him return to it.
It was a real shame he only did the one F1 test I would love to have seen how good he could have been
September 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pmKathi said:
Fisi and Webber again (I think there was sth wrong with the link I gave first)
September 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pmKathi said:
Piquet and Kubica first stalling and then pushing his car (Wer sein Auto liebt, der schiebt
)
September 5th, 2008 at 7:32 pmme said:
hehe, thanks for these kathi, they are as ever awesome.
just about got them all now. showing christine what she missed earlier.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:52 pmnorton said:
Kubica Won in Montreal because Lewis took himself and Kimi out of the race, Kolvelinen won his race because Lewis had a flat and Massa blew an engine, Kolvelinen is not up to par,but Kubica in a Ferrari or Mclaren most likely is. with the exception of Alonso, the rest are F2 drivers at best.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:58 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Alright, who’s bashing BMW here. Oh right, no one…
But if Kubica goes to Ferrari or McLaren, you’ll hear me cry.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Oh and aye, when do you reckond the digest thingy (forgot the name there) will be done, I’m shattered after a monsterous day at school and want to find out what happend in practice.