Opinions on Hamilton’s Penalty? This is the Place to Be
If you’re not sick of us by now, then this is the place to be. We’re recording the first official episode of F1 Debrief, otherwise known as Sidepodcast Episode 76.
What a day we’ve had! The race at Spa was pretty mega in itself, and then you add in the controversial penalties and the enormous amounts of discussion that follow such decisions, and you’re left with a brilliant Sunday afternoon.
This show will touch on such matters as well as others, but more than anything we want your thoughts. As ever the live commenting will be go, go, go, click the triangle in the corner to get to the groovy auto-refresh page. We also want to hear your voice though, and if you’re willing to talk to us, then Skype is the place to be. More details coming up in the show.
We’ve been a bit pushed today, as you can imagine, so we need your help more than ever. Be prepared to dive in with thoughts, corrections, opinions, anything that can make the show a much better thing to behold. We’ll hopefully be going live at 9:15pm BST (running a bit late already) and would love to see you there.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:49 pmAlex said:
hello ooo i think im first!!! :):)
September 7th, 2008 at 8:51 pmJourneyer said:
And I’m second! Haha!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pmAlex said:
do you think ill get a 25 second penalty for being first??? hmmmmmm…………..
September 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pmAlex Andronov said:
Alex I’m afraid that the FIA have decided to strip you of that first post
September 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pmChristine said:
Hi both. Welcome
September 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pmAlex Andronov said:
Great minds
September 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pmChristine said:
Oh, we’re gonna miss you.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pmAlex Andronov said:
Ah… Me needs to make the box smaller again…
September 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pmJourneyer said:
Hahahahaha! Brilliant, alex a!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pmChristine said:
He’s working on it right now
September 7th, 2008 at 8:54 pmJourneyer said:
Can’t sleep properly for some reason. Must be a need to get things off my chest. Hahahahaha!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:54 pmlou said:
Am just finishing off an essay but i have clicked play so with any luck when you start i should hear you
Just want to say before you guys go live that today has been brilliant and all the better for all this lovely sidepodcast coverage. You guys are amazing specially as you do so much hard work in what should be your free time 
So a massive thank you for everything from me 
September 7th, 2008 at 8:54 pmOllie said:
Hey guys. Busy day…?
September 7th, 2008 at 8:55 pmAlex Andronov said:
I wonder how long Katherine will stay on the phone to her mother? That defines how long I can stay…
September 7th, 2008 at 8:55 pmScott Woodwiss said:
hey
September 7th, 2008 at 8:55 pmJourneyer said:
Yep, Ollie, indeed. From the F1F live blog to the post-race discussions here, it’s been a bumper day (or two, in my case).
September 7th, 2008 at 8:56 pmAlex Andronov said:
It’s been all go…
September 7th, 2008 at 8:56 pmAlex Andronov said:
From somewhere I can here New Kids on the Block Hangin’ Tough… I guess that isn’t Sidepodcast Towers but is instead… gasp… from here!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
I’m sorry I’m late, the FIA made me have a stop/go penalty
Damn that jokes been used already, erm, ah, hi.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pmFlibster said:
New Kids on the block? Who’s taste is that??
September 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pmOllie said:
Haha RG. Just make sure they don’t fine you as well. Might hurt the bank account!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:58 pmChristine said:
I have bad taste in music but that’s pushing it.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:58 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
They fine me 10k, I’m bankrupt. Thank god for parent
September 7th, 2008 at 8:58 pmFlibster said:
Saying that - Pink Floyd - Money has just started here.
Wonder how much the stewards are taking home in unmarked bills today.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:59 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i think this morning’s parade lap show told us otherwise
September 7th, 2008 at 8:59 pmChristine said:
If you refresh, comments box should be optimised for video viewing.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:59 pmOllie said:
I’m in the wrong business. I need to become a race steward. Apparently there’s few qualifications needed.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pmAlex Andronov said:
It would appear to have been MTV Hits the “Best of Boybands” which has been on very quietly for some time… I have destroyed that television now of course.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pmFlibster said:
Just 2.
No common sence
need to be blind
September 7th, 2008 at 9:01 pmAlex Andronov said:
Right… I’m Gonzo… I had a call from my Dad who said… “I had to leave the house with 10 laps to go earlier. Did anything happen?”.
hahahaha
September 7th, 2008 at 9:01 pmFlibster said:
Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:01 pmAlex Andronov said:
See you all later… Good luck!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:01 pmFlibster said:
TTFN
September 7th, 2008 at 9:02 pmJourneyer said:
Hahaha! You guys are nuts! Go-live in 15 minutes!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:02 pmlou said:
bye Alex
September 7th, 2008 at 9:02 pmAlex said:
tata for now…..
September 7th, 2008 at 9:04 pmFlibster said:
I’m not. I have a certificate that says that I’m not mentally unbalanced.
*seriously…I do*
September 7th, 2008 at 9:06 pmChristine said:
word crashed, running a bit late. chat amongst yerselves
September 7th, 2008 at 9:07 pmme said:
that was me btw. on christine’s laptop.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:07 pmAlex said:
*twiddles thumbs*
September 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pmOllie said:
So Ollie. how ya doin’ these days?
Oh, I’m cool.
Anything new?
Watched a blinding race today.
What made it good?
Wait and see, I think it’s gonna be discussed in a moment…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Hey R.G
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So whatcha been up to then today
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Y’know, watching the race, canny exciting
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Aye
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Looking forward to Monza then
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Sure, you
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Yeah, why not
September 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pmAlianora La Canta said:
I think the Hamilton penalty was touch-and-go. I had initially suspected that Lewis might not have given the place back in time for the sensors to have registered it (and obviously by the end of the first corner he was back in the lead), but I read “after viewing the footage” in the steward’s reasoning, which threw the whole thing in doubt again.
That said, having merely doubts over the validity of a steward’s decision makes a nice change these days - usually I end up concluding the decision was unequivocally bad. However, the fact that it penalises a McLaren driver in favour of a Ferrari one means that the stewards will get little sympathy from any British corner other than mine.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pmOllie said:
RG, late to the joke, again!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:09 pmFlibster said:
amongst yourselves - not with yourselves….
I’m obviously the sane one.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:09 pmOllie said:
Oh, I’m perfectly sane, it’s the rest of the world I’m worried about…!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:10 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
So what do you think about the Hamilton penalty
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A bit harsh
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Yeah, but the Timo Glock was shocking
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Someone else whose shocking is Ollie
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Why?
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He’s been going into my brain and nicking my jokes before I post them and he credits them
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Shocking
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Aye
September 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pmOllie said:
lol @ RG. I really am quite mystic!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:12 pmAlianora La Canta said:
CRL: How are you, Alia?
ALC: Fine, thank you.
CRL: Anything new?
ALC: Finally sorted out the Asian and children’s non-fiction sections yesterday, and enjoyed a good race today. Currently getting ready to attend the official re-opening of the main local studies department in Nottingham tomorrow.
CRL: What made it good?
ALC: Wild racing, especially at the beginning and the end, weather that couldn’t make its mind up and drivers surprising (and disappointing).
September 7th, 2008 at 9:13 pmOllie said:
@Ali, oh, it’s Alia. My apologies.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:14 pmJourneyer said:
Ah! Alia! We learn something new. But honestly? You guys are a bit creepy right now. Hahaha!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:15 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Welcome to my world…
…mwah ha ha ha
September 7th, 2008 at 9:15 pmOllie said:
Creepy, how so?
Well, I guess it’s becasue your talking to yourself.
And that’s creepy?
Apparently so.
I’m freaked.
So am I!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pmJourneyer said:
Is that an evil laugh? Did you learn that from Max? Hahaha
Brilliant! No way you could tell it was dialogue until the end.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:18 pmOllie said:
Just doing as I’m told…
Chatting among myselves.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmJourneyer said:
That’s an… interesting interpretation, Ollie. I’m sure the race stewards also make rather… creative interpretations.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmme said:
keep it up guys. nearly there.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmSteven Roy said:
All those of you talking to yourself will have a 10 minute penalty for the next podcast - unless you are wearing Ferrari gear. If I was Ron I would take up COlin CHapman’s suggestion and paint his cars red for Monza
September 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
This Journeyer kid
Aye
He knows to much
How come?
He knows I learnt the evil laugh from Max
No!
Yes, Max.
I bet he’s thinking about Max Mosley
Ohh, the secrets safe still then…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:20 pmlou said:
hahaha lol this convo is very funny
September 7th, 2008 at 9:21 pmJourneyer said:
Steven Roy - Aren’t McLaren cars red already? In a nice shade of Vodafone, too.
R.G - Which Max do you BOTH have in mind?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pmOllie said:
Just realised this is all on the blog as well. Damn the live app, fooling me into a Twitter state of mind, where it disappears after a few days.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pmSteven Roy said:
The replay show starts on ITV in less than an hour. It will be interesting to see their interpretation of events and hopefully see genuine interviews with the people involved rather than reading about them on the news sites
September 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pmbassano clapper said:
Wonder how drunk Kimi is by now?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmAlex said:
oh itv will be on hamilont’s side not that their is any bias their
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmSteven Roy said:
I see. So you can see the future but not the present
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmJourneyer said:
Well, Ollie, it’ll get buried after a while. So people won’t remember it as much.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmFlibster said:
We’ll remind people though.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmOllie said:
Maybe…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pmChristine said:
So when I said 9:15…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pmFlibster said:
Yeeeeeeees?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pmLadySnowcat said:
There is one reason why the Stewards are wrong…
It has left just about everyone unhappy..
I am not sure that even Massa is pleased to get undeserved points… even if a wrong was done… it wasn’t to him…
I don’t think any of the fans are actually happy about it…
But it sure will generate column inches…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pmJourneyer said:
yyyyes? you meant?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:25 pmOllie said:
By the way, if I disappear for a while, it’s cos I’m moderating really long comments on my site. Today has been a day of talking, and passion has been flowing, not all ‘good passion’.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:26 pmbassano clapper said:
Podcast timekeeping is under investigation for ignoring waved flags
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmme said:
live in 2mins
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmlou said:
take as long as you need. it’s been a long day
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmOllie said:
Wait bassano, we can’t make a decision until after the podcast…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmbassano clapper said:
LOL
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmFlibster said:
I’d better turn off the goodies dvd then.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Thats only when their are five minutes left.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pmFlibster said:
Two hours after.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pmbassano clapper said:
Don’t forget, there may be an appeal
September 7th, 2008 at 9:29 pmOllie said:
At which point whatever fine is given will be doubled. And the appeal will be thrown out.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pmbassano clapper said:
So will this affect Ron’s retirement decision?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
We got action
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmAlex said:
ooo its starting
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmSteven Roy said:
I see Christine
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmlou said:
wow! that is a big photo!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmScott Woodwiss said:
new pic!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
We ain’t got action
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmSteven Roy said:
Say something then
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmlou said:
yay i just got sound!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmbassano clapper said:
Spooky echo
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmDan Brunell said:
AND WE ARE LIVE!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmOllie said:
Nice picture on the wall.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
we got action now
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmAlex said:
no movement?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmSteven Roy said:
I can hear you both now
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmLadySnowcat said:
I can hear you…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmlou said:
yeah i can hear you. and i can see you moving… everything seems fine
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmSteven Roy said:
The sound is really good
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmJourneyer said:
Echo? No echo for me.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmOllie said:
Title: Have you got all your buttons switched on?
Audio and video good. for me.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmbassano clapper said:
Very spooky, might be just me or haunted Mac
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmAlenyaa said:
No problems with sound here!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmFlibster said:
No sound here…hang on a mo..
September 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pmLadySnowcat said:
Started off with echo but then got better…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmbassano clapper said:
Fixed, yay!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Hot last week, must be cold this week.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmbassano clapper said:
Don’t have 2 tabs open
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmScott Woodwiss said:
oh please don’t tell me i’m getting buffering and not broadcasting all the time again!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmOllie said:
Ahhh!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pmJourneyer said:
Cheesy alert! Cheesy alert! Hahaha!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Plug numero 1
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmLadySnowcat said:
This isn’t turning to be what I was expecting…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmlou said:
it looks amazing
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmAlex said:
ok i can hear and see now
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmJourneyer said:
The pic looks good from here.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmFlibster said:
Hmmm. Still no audio.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmDan Brunell said:
Photo looks great. I would suggest selling it to a photo stock company.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmOllie said:
It’s a bit washed out because of the pale wall, but it still looks cool.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmFlibster said:
Audio on one machine - not on the other. Strange.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmlou said:
omg 5?! wow!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmOllie said:
You guys are kicking butt.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
You should get a bonus
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmJourneyer said:
As they said lou, mental!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pmLadySnowcat said:
Did you pay the stewards so you could get more material…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pmAlenyaa said:
Funny title: He did everything right untill he passed Raikonnen!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pmDan Brunell said:
What subject? Seriously, what could you possiblly mean?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pmOllie said:
Hyped? It’s been on of those days!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pmJourneyer said:
Yes, Dan, whatever could it be?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pmlou said:
‘me’ you not the only one. i’m found it hard to concentrate on my history essay earlier..
September 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
haha
September 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pmFlibster said:
How much non branded energy drink has been consumed today?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Hmm, aye, I had science
September 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pmOllie said:
Wine for me. And not enough.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pmJourneyer said:
I wonder how that single wet tyre would’ve help up in the conditions we saw earlier today?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pmScott Woodwiss said:
what have i got to do to get a good reception on the feed!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmLadySnowcat said:
A little bit of rain…
Mildly moist…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmlou said:
well considering he is now on beer i think everything they had in the house
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmJourneyer said:
Not sure, Scott. I’m getting very good reception from here. Maybe it depends on how much bandwidth you have?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmOllie said:
Although artificially flooding tracks isn’t that great…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmScott Woodwiss said:
how do i check?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmSteven Roy said:
Shouldn’t they test it at Paul Ricard where they have sprinklers for that specific reason?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmAlenyaa said:
In other words, Christine wants you to shut up, ‘me’
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmFlibster said:
Hurrah!
Fixed sound here.
Restarted Opera
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmJourneyer said:
Scott –> speedtest.net
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmFlibster said:
Could have patterns.
Tartan tyres?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmSteven Roy said:
They should do different coloured tyres
September 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pmAlex said:
burberry tyres?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:41 pmbassano clapper said:
Funny title: He should’ve picked up a different colour marker
September 7th, 2008 at 9:41 pmFlibster said:
It’s better than IE and Fartfox. More stable and more secure.
Could’t they use a large phillips shaver?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pmDan Brunell said:
Pink Tires. I would just love to see the look on the drivers’ faces.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:
my download speed is nearly 2mb according to speedtest. no idea what to do
September 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pmFlibster said:
Ooooh….Views…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pmAlenyaa said:
Been a long day, huh Christine
September 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pmJourneyer said:
christine jigs to the soundclips? hahaha! scott, no idea how to help you out. i’m doing well on a lot less bandwidth. try restarting the browser maybe?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pmOllie said:
Brave driver with pink tyres? Montagny would be happy!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pmMartyn Smith said:
Id like to hear youre opinions on the blatent Ferrari favouritism. Kimi runs into Sutil at Monaco - No ruling from the stewards. Masa nearly runs into Sutil and nearly runs over a camera man - No ruling from the stewards. And then this. Im loosing trust in the FIA or (Ferrari Internationale de l’Automobile).
September 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pmLadySnowcat said:
Actually it would take a real man to use pink tyres and get away with it…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pmFlibster said:
East midlands is a pathetic airport anyway. Only runway in the UK with a cattle grid at each end.
Air traffic control is a bloke with a megaphone.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmbassano clapper said:
Losing trust in FIA?
Hmm, never really had any
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmSteven Roy said:
The big masts were 8 metres high which shouldn’t really be interfering with planes
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmScott Woodwiss said:
trying to watch it on firefox doesn’t help
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmOllie said:
LMFAO.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmlou said:
What about sky blue tyres? would make it Valencia look colourful next year
September 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pmOllie said:
If, if…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Remember you saying that you used the marker tyre thingy as a title before, I don’t think you did thanks to my extensive reasearch
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmOllie said:
It has been a long day…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmSteven Roy said:
Cynicism?? Ferrari red tyres? That’s cynicism
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmDan Brunell said:
I don’t think there enough colors in a rainbow to make Valencia look decent.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmScott Woodwiss said:
damn, i’ve tried to watch the feed on IE, Firefox and now google chrome, and i’m getting the same problem on ALL 3.
HELP!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmLadySnowcat said:
Surely the FIA will only allow red tyres if all are to be believed…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pmFlibster said:
Long caffine fuelled day by the sounds of Me..
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmJourneyer said:
Ah! Christine is right! I remember that title.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
To be fair, the itunes page only goes to November last year.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmFlibster said:
Scott - got anything downloading at all?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmAlenyaa said:
Christine’s right on the felt tip marker, I remember it as well
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmOllie said:
Gah, Alia’s distracting me on my site. BRB.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmScott Woodwiss said:
nope, nothing downloading
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmFlibster said:
Scott - they apologise for you problems.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
I’ve only been on here since May
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i’ve switched off messenger and limewire to reduce any lag, i still have skype going.
still not better
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmOllie said:
Ta guys.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmJourneyer said:
Wow! BlogF1 is noticed! Good on yer, Ollie!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmScott Woodwiss said:
by a miracle, i actually heard it
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmF1Punter said:
Episode 55 - Do You Think They’ve Got a Better System this Year than a Guy with a Felt Tip Marker?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmLadySnowcat said:
Valencia looks great from one angle…
The pit area… where you had the option of a boat ride across the harbour to a special viewing building as well as the usual hanging around the drivers etc….
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmOllie said:
It was the nicest comment on BF1, ever.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pmAlex said:
oo i remember that episode
September 7th, 2008 at 9:50 pmSteven Roy said:
Scott,
Can you get other sites? youtube vids etc. That would show if the problem is your end or Justin’s. Last week when I had problems I could run anything else I wanted. This week everything is fine for me
September 7th, 2008 at 9:50 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i can get youtube no problem
September 7th, 2008 at 9:50 pmFlibster said:
I like Ron. Especially Ronspeak.
RON ON FAMILIAR SAYINGS:
“Optimise all visual parameters before making a transit between a stationary position and vertical motion.
…Look before you leap.
“A forward cranial motion will convey a similar message to the temporary obscuration of a single visual sensor.”
…A nod’s as good as a wink
“There is no advantage to be gained from displaying lachrymose sentiment over accidentally displaced dairy products.”
…Don’t cry over spilt milk
“Sudden unexpected precipitation is destined to arrive in over-abundant and unmanageable quantities.”
…It never rains but it pours
“When there is no transfer of funds involved in the transaction, it’s unwise to make an oral equine examination.”
…Don’t look a gifthorse in the mouth
RON’S CLASSIC MOMENTS FROM THE MOVIES
“With all due respect, I reject outright your point of view on this particular issue.”
Gone With The Wind - ‘Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn’
“If analysed by use of metpahor, the human condition can be compared to a random assembly of confectionary”
Forest Gump - ‘Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re going to get.’
“If you wish, you may continue and produce a satisfying outcome to this 24-hour period.”
Dirty Harry - ‘Go ahead, make my day’
“The minimum requirement was to remove the passenger access device without compromising the structure of the vehicle using excessive amounts of explosive material!”
The Italian Job - ‘I only told you to blow the bloody doors off’
“Considering the large variety and numeracy of licensed premises available, it’s curious that the nature of random choice should bring you to this one.”
Casablanca - ‘Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, you should walk into mine.’
RON DOES BEATLES SONGS
Beatles: Baby You Can Drive My Car
Ron: Baby You Can Drive My Technical Package
Beatles: Eight Days A Week
Ron: The average McLaren working week
September 7th, 2008 at 9:50 pmbassano clapper said:
An F1 driver being fined a few thou is like me losing 50p
September 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pmScott Woodwiss said:
and justin.tv was fine for today with the live feeds
September 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pmFlibster said:
Oooh bugger, that was longer than I thought.
Sorry.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pmLadySnowcat said:
Repeat offenders like… chicane jumpers?…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pmAlenyaa said:
Need a new co-host?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pmlou said:
you beat me to it
September 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i have just tried downloading some outstanding windows updates, dunno if it will help
September 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pmJourneyer said:
Schumacher-esque! THAT word! Gasp!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmAlex said:
good luck scott
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmDan Brunell said:
Wow, after all that action during qualifying, the race should be a bore.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmJon Waldock said:
WOW, this is so cool, i thought the podcasts were done in 1 take!!! I love this
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Bloody typical, the episode list on itunes goes down to Episode 56.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmScott Woodwiss said:
i do have google web accelerator running. would that be causing any problems maybe?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmSteven Roy said:
Love the Ronspeak Flibster. I can see a new sidepodcast competition. The best Ronspeak line from a film or the best Ronspeak song title
September 7th, 2008 at 9:53 pmJourneyer said:
First-timer, Jon, eh?
I’ve heard the stories, but it’s the first time for me too.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmOllie said:
Yep, Q2 for Bourdais.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmSteven Roy said:
It was quali 1. I only saw that session
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmAlenyaa said:
Bourdais quickest in Q2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmJon Waldock said:
Q2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmJourneyer said:
Try turning it off, Scott. Worth a shot.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmlou said:
Q2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmSusan said:
Scott select one of the option and follow prompt, it should take care of the problem.
http://myp2p.eu/software.php?part=software
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Q1 wannit
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmFlibster said:
Could be trying to cache the stream….
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmScott Woodwiss said:
ok anything that’s not really necessary has been switched off.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pmAlex said:
hiekki was quickest in 2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmSteven Roy said:
I am sure I remember it and I didn’t see Q2. Must have seen a highlight thing somewhere
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmScott Woodwiss said:
and i’ve already done a disk cleanup
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmJon Waldock said:
Thats why i thought they were done in 1 take, this mornings was slick….ish
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmLadySnowcat said:
Is Christine there…
Is this the “me” show?…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmMartyn Smith said:
Propaganda?
Does anyone think that there may have been some engineered propagander from the guys who control the audio and video feeds when they mixed Hamiltons ‘Thats what im talking about’ comment over Kimi’s crash?.. or am I just an F1 conspiracy theorist?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmlou said:
Q2 cause i remember James saying the times don’t count for the next session
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmbassano clapper said:
Is everyone’s brain fried today, mine is but that could just be the hangover
September 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pmJourneyer said:
Why, yes, LadySnowcat! Of course!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
IT WAS Q1 FOR GODS SAKE, YOUR MAKING A MISTAKE.
Off the BBC
The two Toro Rossos of Sebastien Bourdais, who shocked the field by leading the first qualifying session,
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmScott Woodwiss said:
waffle
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmDan Brunell said:
Calm down Christine. Nobody is listening. Just take a deep breath and relax.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmAlex Andronov said:
I’m back! that might cheer people up
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmScott Woodwiss said:
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmlou said:
‘me’ you are so hyped up aren’t you
lol
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmOllie said:
No, it was Q2. I’m gonna find a link goddamit…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmlou said:
Hey Alex
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmAlex Andronov said:
Hurray!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmAlenyaa said:
Someone make an effort!
Look it up!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmFlibster said:
CAFFINE….caffinecaffinecaffinecaffinecaffinecaffine
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmJon Waldock said:
IT WAS Q1, i just checked F1.com
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmAlex Andronov said:
What was supposed to have happened in Q1 or Q2?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
1324: Sebastian Bourdais lays down a hot one to surprise us all quite frankly as he jumps to the top of the standings in 1:46.777. He responds with a loud “Woooo-hoooo” over the team radio. No cheers at the opposite end of the timesheets as Fischella (Force India), Nakajima (Williams), Sutil (Force India), Button and Barrichello (Honda) all go out.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmDan Brunell said:
Survey says… (drum roll please)
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Of the BBC, Christine is right.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmAlex said:
boudais q1 wikipdeia says so
September 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmScott Woodwiss said:
hmm, trying on the justin.tv side for the live feed, still buffering a lot
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmSteven Roy said:
I knew it was Q1 because I didn’t see Q2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Can I get a mention for proving me wrong?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmlou said:
Christine you should get ‘me’ to go for a run for a bit… to let him get rid of some of his energy
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmOllie said:
Can I swear? B******s. All I get on searches is BF1 and SPC…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmScott Woodwiss said:
oh man this is ridiculous! i just want it to work
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmbassano clapper said:
There needs to be a stewards investigation into Q1 or Q2
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmAlex Andronov said:
Do we all get meals now?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmR.G (The Nurburgring/Sato/BMW Fan) said:
Gotta go now, cheerio
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmLadySnowcat said:
Bourdais was first in Q1… it’s on the F1 results but also…
Makes sense…
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmSteven Roy said:
Bye RG
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmFlibster said:
Someone give him a sedative
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmJourneyer said:
bye RG!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmOllie said:
I’ll write you a cheque for the jar.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmAlex Andronov said:
Me’s taking us all out to dinner - Yay!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmFlibster said:
TTFN R.G
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmlou said:
See ya R.G
September 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pmJon Waldock said:
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! If it takes this long to do 1 feature, how long does it take do those hour shows!!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmSteven Roy said:
Are you sure it wasn’t Q2?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmScott Woodwiss said:
right, let’s try switching off the wireless and back on again
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmlou said:
This is one of the hour shows
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmLadySnowcat said:
Christine… do tell does “me” always make life so impossible for you?…
Monkey glands just aren’t a good idea…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmbassano clapper said:
Maybe Bourdais has been to specsavers
September 7th, 2008 at 10:00 pmDan Brunell said:
Don’t be suprised if Red Bull swaps paint jobs with Toro Rosso next week.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmJon Waldock said:
i think so, i’ve seen 2 pairs of those glasses
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmSteven Roy said:
A bit late but Q1 times from dropio
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/q1-times-3
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmFlibster said:
How long do you have Jon?
Force India’s Aero isn’t as good - I believe the chassis is the 2007 one as well.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmOllie said:
Do STR even have a wind tunnel at Faenza?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmJourneyer said:
Me and Christine - Force India and STR have the same engine - BUT - the Newey design is better than the Force India design.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pmlou said:
what have you thrown out to the comments….. i’m lost
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmMartyn Smith said:
Lol you sound a bit like James Allen! Youre not gonna talk about G force loadings being comparable to ‘Labradores being cellotapes to your head’ are you?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmAlenyaa said:
ME!! Go lie down for God’s sake
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmAlex said:
surely newey is at red bull
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmJourneyer said:
what we’re discussing, lou.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmSteven Roy said:
I think so
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmbassano clapper said:
STR don’t need a wind tunnel, Red Bull have it
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmScott Woodwiss said:
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmJourneyer said:
yep, alex… but don’t STR get the same chassis this year?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmDan Brunell said:
It might be engine familarity. Who was their supplier last year?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:02 pmAlex Andronov said:
That’s a bit harsh!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmJon Waldock said:
does the f1 minute ad last 1 minute???
September 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmOllie said:
Yep, he designs the sister team car as well.
I was joking.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmFlibster said:
Oooooh… thats nasty.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmbassano clapper said:
Just what happened to Kovy at the start
September 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmLadySnowcat said:
I wish your prediction on rain had been correct…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmDan Brunell said:
Take two.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmAlex Andronov said:
My thinking is that this show is going to be a breeze to edit
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmScott Woodwiss said:
next desperate measure: uninstalling all unecessary programs and applications
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmlou said:
can i come and help with the clapper board? *Clap* take 2
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmOllie said:
Haven’t heard under pressure yet. You guys must be under pressure.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmSteven Roy said:
Then they took the inters off and put hards on.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pmJourneyer said:
It almost was, LadySnowcat… They just came 2 laps short… With humongous consequences.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pmbassano clapper said:
He still went out depite being on wets
September 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pmJon Waldock said:
He’s a giney pig for alonso!!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pmSteven Roy said:
Maybe they could put stabilisers on his car
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmDan Brunell said:
How many chassis is that for Renault this year?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmLadySnowcat said:
I liked the first lap…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmAlex Andronov said:
There was a lot of running off!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmRich said:
Have never been able to get the Justin TV feed to work. It just says “Not Broadcasting” So here are my thoughts on the above question Christine raised …
Chicanes have a purpose to slow down where the track is deemed to be getting too fast and/or to add spectator interest. Lewis came into the chicane very fast - would he have made it if there was no car in the way - not sure, reckon he still might have needed the escape route. Whatever people say Kimi had every right to keep on the racing line and Lewis was never really ahead entering the chicane. However, Lewis did seem to have enough speed to overtake on the straight exiting the chicane and indeed gets level with Kimi while in top gear. This certainly suggests some advantage thsat did not exit in previous laps. Further he did not actually overtake by out-braking but on straight-line speed. The problem is if this goes without a penalty many drivers will try the same/similar tricks and it is going to end in some spills if not some more serious tears. In this respect I think there is validity for a penalty - to prevent drivers taking advantage of a chicane. I think the team needs to know straight away so their driver is given a chance to correct the situation. If this was Lewis’s first time I might have been a little more lenient but it is a similar situation to France. However, I think the punishment was a “bit harsh”. Personally I do not like “meddling” with the results after the event - certainly they need to be confirmed within 90 mins. The alternative mention was a 10 place grid drop - I think this could be even damaging to Lewis’s World Championship chances. So my suggestion would be a five place grid slot drop at the next race - its maintaining the incentive for fair racing but is not so punitive as to wreck the chances of a driver doing well. This would mean if Lewis gets pole he would start from sixth and with some extra effort the situation is salvageable and he could win. I do not respect McLaren for contesting the issue though - most teams would not contest under these circumstances. Conditions were crazy so why does Toyota not contest Glock losing his point? I doubt that Toyota will, which is why I respect that team more than Macca.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmAlex Andronov said:
It was very good for Kimi!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmFlibster said:
Thats the problem with tarmac runoffs instead of gravel
No penalty for going off the track - unless you’re Hamilton
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmAlex Andronov said:
Now that’s a comment Rich!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:06 pmMartyn Smith said:
Trulli whent like a rocket.. v impressive
September 7th, 2008 at 10:07 pmMartyn Smith said:
Yes whent with 2 h’s
September 7th, 2008 at 10:07 pmFlibster said:
Best start of the year
September 7th, 2008 at 10:08 pmJourneyer said:
Almost, flibster… But he didn’t get to keep it very long.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:08 pmLadySnowcat said:
Unfortunately Lewis recovered…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:08 pmAlex Andronov said:
It was almost like Renault from a few years ago
September 7th, 2008 at 10:08 pmMartyn Smith said:
Have you not heard the news. Hamilton penalised.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:08 pmRich said:
I think it would have ended at least two of Lewis’s races - not great though for motocycling - coming off on gravel is really painful!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:09 pmRich said:
Pity it went so wrong so soon.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:09 pmJourneyer said:
Ooh. Tried to load ESPN, it screwed the feed up. So much for that then.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:09 pmAlex Andronov said:
Lewis doesn’t like gravel after last year so much.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmLadySnowcat said:
Honda not going far in any case…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmFlibster said:
Thats fine, go into the gravel and you’re stuffed unless you’re really lucky
Also learn to drive and stop dressing like a power ranger.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmAlex Andronov said:
Good point Christine!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmSteven Roy said:
I caught Scott’s Not Broadcasting problem.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmAlex Andronov said:
Oh it’s RED BULL is it?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmSteven Roy said:
It came back again
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmDan Brunell said:
It hasn’t been their year… actually it hasn’t been their decade.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmFlibster said:
Thats 2 brandnames….
September 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmAlenyaa said:
Oi, now he’s done it
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmOllie said:
There it is.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmMartyn Smith said:
Good point Christine. If you know youre not gonna finish in the points why not retire in th efirst few laps to save the enigne!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmFlibster said:
3….
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmAlex Andronov said:
Poor tired Christine1
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmScott Woodwiss said:
just restarted and it is STILL not working properly
*sigh*
September 7th, 2008 at 10:11 pmAlex Andronov said:
That 1 should have been a !
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmScott Woodwiss said:
don’t blame yourselves guys, you’re not at fault. steven’s having the same problems too, now.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmlou said:
omg i’ve had tooo much caffine today…. i just made myself another cup of tea… what did i miss?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmJourneyer said:
Me - Spain 1994 - 5th gear. And it WAS a sequential box.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmSteven Roy said:
Michael Schumacher did Barcelona one year with only fifth gear
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmAlex Andronov said:
Well Honda didn’t finish before and when it was seen as being naughty cheating they got told off
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmAlex Andronov said:
Yes! That was good that year I liked that
September 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmSteven Roy said:
Scott,
I had a problem for 20 seconds and then it cleared again
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmJon Waldock said:
NOOO I LIKED IT TOO
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmJourneyer said:
Yes, me, exactly!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmFlibster said:
Because they started trying that *honda again* when the rules were brought in - they were told DON’T DO IT AGAIN unless you have a real mechanical problem.
Also, It was 5th gear - Spanish GP 1994
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmAlex Andronov said:
Schumacher was Schumacher-esque
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmSteven Roy said:
Show title: I am waiting for you to shut up
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pmFlibster said:
Give me 12 laps in an hour…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmScott Woodwiss said:
unlike me, where i’ve got it all the time.
hmm, the wireless router is downstairs. could a move down there help?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmJon Waldock said:
It gave the best race ever - Japan 2005
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmAlex Andronov said:
I liked the reverse order thing better than the two single lap things they did
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmSteven Roy said:
I agree totally
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmFlibster said:
Possibly, whats your signal strength?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmlou said:
i never saw single lap quali……. well that i can rememeber
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmbassano clapper said:
Qualy is a bit predictable now
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmLadySnowcat said:
Single lap qualy had mixed up grids…
Suzuka 2005…
But…. cars could overtake…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmJourneyer said:
no, you misinterpreted my comment!
I was referring to ‘me’! 
Ech. Single-lap quali was OK, but knockout is a lot better. 
But Jon makes a good point.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmSteven Roy said:
Only if the problem is at your end.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmAlex Andronov said:
We still don’t know what’s happened in the race… Christine has a point!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmOllie said:
The confusion would be solved with no fuel-lock-in. Just revert to 12 laps, out, fast and in, and they refuel for the race.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmScott Woodwiss said:
4 bars is my signal out of 5
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmAlenyaa said:
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmJourneyer said:
No problem. Cheers.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmAlex Andronov said:
Me is talking faster than Christine on F1 Minute!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmRich said:
Be original Hamilton-esque particularly suitable when navigating chicanes and pitstop entrances.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmLadySnowcat said:
Do please have a rant on live timing…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmJon Waldock said:
LOL
September 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pmFlibster said:
200 words per minute then…..
Is Me prerecorded and he’s being played back at the wrong speed?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pmAlex Andronov said:
Live timing being broken was really really bad.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pmJourneyer said:
pitlane entry? Surely you meant Alonso, rich? Missing pitlane entry 2 races in succession?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pmSteven Roy said:
I agree with that too.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pmOllie said:
And thus, my rant at F1.com stands. Live Timing was hopeless today.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmSteven Roy said:
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmbassano clapper said:
Does Me have a name or it just Mr Christine?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmRich said:
Some of my students cannot understand ME - and my dog goes to sleep when he goes on for to long!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmlou said:
seconded.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmDan Brunell said:
Were talking about Bernie here. He is a man who thinks the internet is something in your swimshorts.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmScott Woodwiss said:
ok i have my laptop literally next to the home hub
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmAlex Andronov said:
The most annoying comment in the *whole* world!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmOllie said:
@bassano: As far as I’m aware, it’s “me”. Or “Stig”
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmJon Waldock said:
just Mr Christine
witness protection i heard
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmJourneyer said:
Indeed, Alex. Goes to show how much I’ve come to rely on it this season. It must’ve been a server downtime issue.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pmlou said:
It’s just Mr Christine
September 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pmFlibster said:
Christine’s bi*ch?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pmAlex Andronov said:
Show title: “What can I say… It sucked”
September 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pmlou said:
i really really missed it
it made me stressed and upset.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pmJon Waldock said:
pretty much
September 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pmbassano clapper said:
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmLadySnowcat said:
The commentators could see it so I am sure it was OK at the track…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmJourneyer said:
the commentators and the teams share the same system, methinks.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmScott Woodwiss said:
right last resort - switching off the home hub and back on. the wireless and internet lights are flashing on and off, mind.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmFlibster said:
Title:
You can’t just take it away!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmRich said:
Good candidate - I think most accidents will have been caused by a coulthard-esque manoeuvre.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmLadySnowcat said:
I MISSED LIVE TIMING….IT DROVE ME MAD…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmFlibster said:
Has a double meaning as well.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmAlex Andronov said:
4 to 6 I’d say
September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmLadySnowcat said:
4 laps from the end…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmOllie said:
Rain: BBC says lap 37, I think..
September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmbassano clapper said:
Rain 3 Laps to go?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 pmJourneyer said:
what’s that thing hanging off the mic?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmOllie said:
But that was drops, via Alonso’s radio.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmbassano clapper said:
Near the end then
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmJourneyer said:
heeeeere we go!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmAlex Andronov said:
LadySnowcat you seem to have lost the space between your names… Is Snowcat slipstreaming Lady?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmJon Waldock said:
her names Christine.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmFlibster said:
Started on Lap 38.
Got worse on lap 42
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmAlenyaa said:
Either the Stig, or Bibendum, the Michelin Man
September 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pmbassano clapper said:
A Michelin Man?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmJourneyer said:
not that, Jon! That figurine-like thing hanging off the mic!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmFlibster said:
Looks like Stig’s American Cousin
He was penalised for cutting the chicane. Nothing about the slipstream.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmDan Brunell said:
Oh god… here we go.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmbassano clapper said:
Don’t think it was a slipstream, was barely in line most of the straight
September 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmlou said:
yep
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmJourneyer said:
Ah, Bibendum! A good bet.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmJon Waldock said:
oh lol, my video wasa scrolled up so i didnt see that
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmAlenyaa said:
He decided to cut the chicane, fine, and gave back the position. Very good.
However he did not concede the advantage his cutting the chicane had given him by immediately making full use of Kimi’s slipstream, to which he wouldn’t have had the opportunity if he had not cut the chicane and therefor making it an advantage.
So looking at it that way, a penalty would be justified.
In normal racing circumstances this would have been penalized with a drive through. HOWEVER, in no circumstance does a drive through penalty mean a loss of 25 seconds, no matter how hard another driver pushes. I’m also taking into account Lewis would have passed Kimi anyway at some point, although I’m not sure that would make a valid argument… But yes, the penalty is out of proportion if you ask me.
I do not know precisely what the gap between Lewis and numbers 2 and 3 was at the finish line. I presume Massa finished within 10 secs, which is the amount of seconds I feel the penalty could/should have constituted, whereas Heidfeld didn’t. So I do not think Lewis was necessarily robbed of his victory, but I do feel he was robbed from second place. And seeing as we don’t yet know whether Nick will be penalized, he still might get just that position.
Simple fact of the matter is that Lewis could have easily avoided this mess by simply having used his head a little.
No doubt he knew passing Kimi so quickly could get him into trouble, and obviously he knew was faster round the track at that time. His impatience made him take a big risk there, and now it’s come back to bite him in he backside.
He did everything right, until he passed Raikkonen at La Source.
And I’m sure you’ll agree that this ironic line above would make a great title for the upcoming F1 Debrief, formerly known as the Sunday show.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmOllie said:
Two moves int her braking zone. Did you see Raikkonen into La Source after the incident…?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmOllie said:
into the…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmSteven Roy said:
He didn’t slip stream. He switched straight from one side to the other
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmMartyn Smith said:
Exactly Alex, Do the rules say that they have to hols back out of the slipstream? If so do you have to calculate the speed and the effective slipstream of a particular aerodynamic setup taking into cosideraion possible damage and tyre wear?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pmAlex Andronov said:
The kimi spinning thingy…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:24 pmJourneyer said:
OK, call-in on the ready here.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:25 pmAlex Andronov said:
The rules don’t specify anything as specific as that…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:25 pmFlibster said:
These are the regs that Hamilton was punished under. No mention of slipstreaming or overtaking at all
30.3
a) During practice and the race, drivers may use only the track and must at all times observe the provisions of the Code relating to driving behaviour on circuits.
b) Other than by driving on the track, Competitors are not permitted to attempt to alter the grip of any part of the track surface.
Appendix L, Chapter 4, Article 2(g) states….
g) The race track alone shall be used by the drivers during the
race
September 7th, 2008 at 10:25 pmMartyn Smith said:
Also Christine, Id like to hear your comments on the Hamilton and Kimi’s track position switches. I was under the impresion that you could only make one switch. But is this one car width? half a car width?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmJourneyer said:
Is it just me, or did it get quiet all of a sudden on the comments?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmAlex Andronov said:
Massa was not impressive
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmJon Waldock said:
GRRRR ANGRY CHRISTINE lol
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmbassano clapper said:
Massa impressed that he didn’t spin 5 times
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmJourneyer said:
It WAS just me. Sorry.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmLadySnowcat said:
Massa didn’t try to get up the grid…
Kimi was trying to win…
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmAlenyaa said:
That would mean giving up advantage, so yes
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmJon Waldock said:
YES
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmScott Woodwiss said:
right, back. let’s see if it works
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmAlex Andronov said:
Christine rant!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:26 pmAlex Andronov said:
Goooo!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmSteven Roy said:
It is two moves of no specified dimension
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmFlibster said:
Ooooooh. Argument starting!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmAlex Andronov said:
Yeeeah!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
ZOMG! IT WORKED!!!!
:D 
:D
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmF1Punter said:
He also - by coming from the side - had the advantage of not having to close the gap by travelling through dirty air.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmAlex Andronov said:
Hurrah!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmRich said:
No because he was going at Granny Speed!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmbassano clapper said:
Yay for Scott
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmJourneyer said:
Great, scott! Massa running like a granny!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmAlex Andronov said:
Great Scott!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:27 pmScott Woodwiss said:
My feed is working PERFECT!
YAY!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAlex Andronov said:
Don’t Murray yourself!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmJourneyer said:
Ooooh… Fuji 2007 reference.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmFlibster said:
HURRAH!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Have they begun the debate on the lewis-kimi incident yet?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAlenyaa said:
Really? You sure about that?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmMartyn Smith said:
Exactly Christine. Hamilton and Kimi were racing, Massa layed off the throttle and tip toed around!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmScott Woodwiss said:
lol
September 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pmRich said:
When I was racing a switch was defined as moving to one side and then back again - I cannot see that Kimi did this!