Live Commenting: Italy - Free Practice 1
Whoever sorts out the calendar really needs to have a good, long, hard think. I know you can’t predict things like this latest Hamilton-gate, but to have such a gap after the snooze-fest of Valencia, and then be thrust into another race weekend before we’ve digested Spa is just, plain wrong. Also, back to back races, can we stop doing those? I don’t think there’s enough unnamed energy drink in the world.
Anyway, Free Practice 1 is upon us, whether I like it or not, and so we must look forward. It looks like there’s less chance of rain today than was earlier predicted, although there could be thunderstorms at some point before qualifying tomorrow. As ever, the weather keeps us guessing, but it’s not as likely to be raining as it was at Spa.
The teams tested at Monza very recently, just before the Belgium GP, so Friday could be a quiet day for us. The morning, in particular, will probably be lacking in action, as everyone keeps their cards close to their chest, and doesn’t feel the need to get any extra running in.
We’ve got a few drivers that need to have a good weekend. Heidfeld finally appears to have pulled his socks up and improved his performance, but it looks like the BMW bosses still haven’t made up their minds (waiting on Alonso, perhaps), so he still needs to work hard. Likewise, team mate Kubica has said that he might just still be thinking about the championship, despite the massive point deficit he holds to the leader at the moment. I guess if Raikkonen won’t give up until the end, and Kubica above him on points at the moment, it’s only fair for the BMW to keep up the challenge.
It will be interesting to see who appears to have the upper hand at this track. Previous form would suggest that Ferrari will be stronger, but McLaren have been super fast recently, and Hamilton is apparently very hyped to do well after the penalty in Spa.
For our viewing delight today, we have the ITV live stream, and F1.com’s Live Timing, if it’s in a good mood and feels like working. There are other links on our Formula 1 on the Internet page, and you will probably find some scattered in the comments. Talking of which, you can visit the Live Commenting Live… Thing by clicking the top right hand triangle, or going here.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:20 amme said:
webcam near to monza:
http://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Milano/webcams/654
a bit misty, with some blue sky creeping through the clouds.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:22 amme said:
btw: that 20 race calendar isn’t looking like so much fun after all, is it?
September 12th, 2008 at 8:30 amme said:
fastest lap during fp1 in ‘07 was 1:22.4, from kimi. more times from that session:
http://www.pitpass.com/src/seasons/2007/gp/italy/times/fri_prac1.php
September 12th, 2008 at 8:37 amme said:
circuit map:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/monza-map
September 12th, 2008 at 8:39 amlou said:
Hey everyone,
i’m only here for a short time before i have to go to a lesson. Just thought i would stop by for a few mins and say hi and sorry for being absent the last few days. I have been trying to follow the comments, and will reply later in my double free this afternoon.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:44 amlou said:
I kinda like the back to back race weekends every so often. They are fun. I’m not looking forward to the back to back races of Japan and China though… with that and school, by the end of the 2 weeks i will want to sleep for a week
September 12th, 2008 at 8:45 amme said:
the endless debate in between has just been exhausting though.
still, no better way to put it to rest than more racing
September 12th, 2008 at 8:47 amlou said:
yeah in this instance it has been (although i haven’t had the chance to participate until today).
September 12th, 2008 at 8:49 amScott Woodwiss said:
morning folks.
here’s hoping we at least get some rain at some point. there’s a 70% chance so fingers crossed!
By the way, I’ll only be able to make FP1 i think, I’ve got a final interview for a job at 2pm
September 12th, 2008 at 8:49 amDank said:
Guten tag chums!
Good luck for the interview Scott. Hello Lou. Hello Me.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:50 amScott Woodwiss said:
to add to it, I raised some points in the podcast thread which some people might not have spotted. if anyone hasn’t checked it, then go ahead if you’re not exhausted enough on the issue already
September 12th, 2008 at 8:51 amlou said:
I have to go now… silly tutorial thing…. have fun everyone!
September 12th, 2008 at 8:51 amScott Woodwiss said:
danke schun
September 12th, 2008 at 8:52 amme said:
good luck.
morning dank.
looks like bernie’s site is still have timing issues. if you’re not logged in already, you may not get in
September 12th, 2008 at 8:54 amScott Woodwiss said:
thanks
September 12th, 2008 at 8:54 amme said:
also, live timing is currently saying that FP1 in spa will be the next session?
September 12th, 2008 at 8:55 amScott Woodwiss said:
bernie’s live timing really is ronnied.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:55 amme said:
itv video feed is up and running and appears to be in the correct aspect ratio.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:56 amScott Woodwiss said:
got any alternate feeds? i fear the itv f1 site will still class me as outside the uk
September 12th, 2008 at 8:56 amme said:
5live live sports extra saying FP1 commentary coming shortly.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:57 amScott Woodwiss said:
Oh wait! the itv feed works now
September 12th, 2008 at 8:58 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow, look at the old circuit
the actual track’s looking a little….damp maybe? or something, because it really does look muggy over there.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:59 amGraham said:
Good evening, I am just about to pack up and go home, its 6pm Friday here in Sydney.
I’ll try and catch up with the results later.
Good morning and enjoy.
September 12th, 2008 at 8:59 amScott Woodwiss said:
2 minutes until the weekend’s action begins
September 12th, 2008 at 9:00 amScott Woodwiss said:
ooh, nice helmet for kubica.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:00 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’m in Live Timing… …but Autosport Live won’t work on my computer.
That’s a jazzy helmet scheme from Robert.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:00 amChristine said:
Morning all.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:00 amme said:
kubica’s temp helmet colour scheme is odd. no symmetry at all.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:00 amDank said:
Damn live timing again! Work you blimmin’ thing!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:01 amChristine said:
Looks a bit foggy.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:01 amAlianora La Canta said:
As everyone pours onto the track simultaneously…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:01 amScott Woodwiss said:
ah, morning. Was wondering where you’d got to
We have a force india on circuit. it’s Fisi
September 12th, 2008 at 9:02 amRocket said:
Hello all from the antipodes.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:02 amScott Woodwiss said:
even at cruising speed, fisi gets the back end out? hmm, is there actually some moisture on the track
judging by the rooster tail there, i’d say yes
September 12th, 2008 at 9:03 amChristine said:
My live timing seems to be working. God knows how long for though.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:03 amRocket said:
I can’t believe how lost I was without it last week.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:04 amAlianora La Canta said:
There’s spray at Ascari corner.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:04 amChristine said:
Do they have to wave green flags ALL the time? I think I’d find that confusing. You have to see the flag and check the colour all the time. Surely if the track’s green there’s no need for any flagging at all?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:04 amRocket said:
Any telly links?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amScott Woodwiss said:
we’re not even 2 minutes in and someone’s been off already.
ooh, new rear wing plane for ferrari. the front of the endplates look rounded off.
then again everyone’s going to have the same kind of aero package. will be interesting to see what McLaren have brought.
Massa looking relaxed
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amScott Woodwiss said:
AND why do it with only 1 car out?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amAlianora La Canta said:
I think Button has gone onto another lap
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amScott Woodwiss said:
jenson on inters.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amChristine said:
They’re not in a hurry to do installation laps today either then.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 amZoe said:
Jeremy wanted me to come on here and say that he’ll be home (and on here) soon. So… there we go
September 12th, 2008 at 9:06 amRocket said:
Oooh, Jenson is purple, will that be the last time this weekend?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:06 amScott Woodwiss said:
is anyone’s itv feed quiet? why is always never at a decent volume?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:06 amme said:
aww, thanks zoe.
and hi again
September 12th, 2008 at 9:07 amChristine said:
Did I say live timing was working? Silly me.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:07 amScott Woodwiss said:
might be because he’s on the inters which seem to be a bit faster due to the wet section on the back of the circuit.
alonso looking relaxed too. we have lewis on track on inters too.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:08 amAlianora La Canta said:
Standard FIA regulations - any time a session (re)starts to permit overtaking freely, there must be green flags for the duration of the first lap. This applies to every series.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:08 amme said:
hehe.
currently i have:
track temp: 20deg
air temp: 22deg
dry: yes
wind speed: 4.3 mps
humidity: 74%
no idea if that’s correct though?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:08 amRocket said:
Sorry to bother you me, but do you have the latest non-uk webtv feed link?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:09 amFlibster said:
Morning.
As I’m in the office this morning, breakfast purely comprises of a triple espresso and a Krispy Kreme Vanilla doughnut.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:09 amDank said:
LT works! It works!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:09 amScott Woodwiss said:
seems like everyone’s choosing inters for their outlap bacause of the wet section on the back of the circuit. my guess is that will clear up once everyone starts getting some laps in
did you notice bmw had the live timing up on a widescreen?
Force Indias in team formation there.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:10 amScott Woodwiss said:
Fisi cut the chicane, that’s a penalty!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:10 amme said:
http://www.justin.tv/kubicatv
not sure, but it might be polish
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 amScott Woodwiss said:
ah just put 5 live over the top
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 amme said:
if that doesn’t make f1 digest today, i’ll eat my hat
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 amme said:
rain in 9 mins… allegedly.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 amAlianora La Canta said:
Oh dear. No air conditioning and a tiny commentary box for Five Live?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 ampmtate said:
8( renault f1 website live killed my ie7 so now have to restart my f1 desktop
PAul
September 12th, 2008 at 9:11 amScott Woodwiss said:
rain expected in 9 minutes!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amScott Woodwiss said:
so i’m guess that means…. now?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amme said:
can’t even fit it on me screen
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amRocket said:
Bardzo dobrze.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow, it looks very slippery out there.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:12 amme said:
that’ll be lovely come the end of fp2.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:13 amScott Woodwiss said:
fisi continuing on for another lap
September 12th, 2008 at 9:13 amFlibster said:
Anyone read sniffpetrol?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:13 amScott Woodwiss said:
sutil says the tyres are too hot.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:14 amFlibster said:
It’s dry for most of the track - that would kill them very quickly.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:14 amScott Woodwiss said:
jebus, how thin and flat are those rear wing planes?!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:14 amme said:
not for a while. bet they had fun this week.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:14 ampmtate said:
Picture of the back quarter of the Honda, brought back memories of green Jag f1!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:14 amChristine said:
Why would I put it in now, if I get to see you eat a hat?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:15 amScott Woodwiss said:
September 12th, 2008 at 9:15 amme said:
damnit.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:16 amAlianora La Canta said:
Fisi could end up P1
September 12th, 2008 at 9:16 amScott Woodwiss said:
If they carry on like this on the inters with them overheating and there comes a situation where they need them, then they’re screwed.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:16 amme said:
rubens putting in a time. already faster than both fif1’s.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:16 amFlibster said:
Just a little.
They used to be described as tea tray rear wings. It’s pretty accurate.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:17 amme said:
they only get one set of inters and one set of wets today don’t they?
to last both sessions?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:17 amAlianora La Canta said:
Rubens Barrichello could end up P1 now - not good news for me but fantastic news for lou!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:18 amDank said:
Hope Five Live don’t go on about the whole Lewis incident all weekend
September 12th, 2008 at 9:19 amme said:
we need to think of some other questions and text ‘em in.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:19 amme said:
i don’t have a mobile though…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:20 amScott Woodwiss said:
damnit, i can’t log into the f1 website for live timing
September 12th, 2008 at 9:20 amDank said:
Someone think of something and I’ll send it in!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:21 amme said:
i’d like to know mark’s thought’s of the safety car test:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70488
trying it again this afternoon. what’s the news from the paddock and what are they actually testing.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:22 amScott Woodwiss said:
could we just be seeing an hour long battle between force india and honda? i bleeding well hope not!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:22 amScott Woodwiss said:
ooh, a toro rosso!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:22 amChristine said:
Let’s have some guesses on Ferrari’s first appearance then.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:22 amme said:
c’mon, they deserve so air time.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:24 amme said:
assuming the rain is short-lived. let’s say after 60mins.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:24 amScott Woodwiss said:
yeah i understand that but it would be nice to see maybe some other cars out? they should all count themselves lucky. if it’s supposed to be raining in the next 5-10 minutes, then why are they not making the most of a fairly dry track?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:24 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’m finding the duel very exciting, but Nakajima’s joined in… …and gone on the gravel!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:24 amme said:
kazuki off. rain spots on the camera.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:25 amChristine said:
Nakajima so far into the run-off, I couldn’t even see the track!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:25 amScott Woodwiss said:
oops, nakajima off in the kitty litter, but he’s able to get out.
you know i said about the fairly dry track….
September 12th, 2008 at 9:25 amme said:
vettel’s a copycat.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:25 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow, that could so have been like kimi’s fp3 crash last year. except not as fast.
vettel off too!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:26 amAlianora La Canta said:
F5L still joking about the broken air conditioning - at least someone’s trying to fix it!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:27 amChristine said:
Nice pit stop work by the STR crew
September 12th, 2008 at 9:27 amScott Woodwiss said:
ah, got 5LSE working now
just not the live timing
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amScott Woodwiss said:
5L saying the singapore race will be the 800th f1 race ever. so it’ll make history twice!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amKathi said:
*waves*
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amAlianora La Canta said:
Sutil P1! Go Force India!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amFlibster said:
So as they have pretty much all gone off the track defined as the white line, do they all get 25 second penalties or 10 place grid drops now?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amme said:
morning
September 12th, 2008 at 9:28 amChristine said:
Hi Kathi!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:29 amScott Woodwiss said:
seeing how farcical the FIA have been acting, that wouldn’t surprise me.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:30 amme said:
anyone think this’ll be fissi’s last home gp? or another season for him?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:30 amKathi said:
another season
September 12th, 2008 at 9:30 amAlianora La Canta said:
Sutil really is struggling on those dry tyres…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:31 amScott Woodwiss said:
according to autosport they’re well into talks for him to race for them next season.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:31 amChristine said:
He says he’s close to agreeing another deal.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:31 amDank said:
Think I read yesterday that he thinks he’ll be in F1 again next season. Sutil on the other hand… Hello Liuzzi!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:31 amBluray said:
Another season for sure….. btw hello all
September 12th, 2008 at 9:31 amScott Woodwiss said:
LOL!
nah seriously, I like sutil. just needs a good car under him
September 12th, 2008 at 9:32 amme said:
hey blueray. along with his teammate, or is sutil counting down the races now?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:32 amAlianora La Canta said:
me, Giancarlo is almost certain to have a contract extension with Force India.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:32 amScott Woodwiss said:
Lewis’ engineer just said to him: “Now watch those chicanes…”
September 12th, 2008 at 9:33 amScott Woodwiss said:
looks like a steady rain fall.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:33 amBluray said:
He has done well in Monaco and he seems to coming outta the shadows of his senior (citizen) teammate. It would be harsh to axe him now. But I am not Vijay, and he might well have other plans…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:34 amFlibster said:
Although, as technically the pit garages are not part of the track…..
September 12th, 2008 at 9:34 amScott Woodwiss said:
EVERYONE’S BEING ILLEGAL! PUNISHMENT!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:35 amChristine said:
Did they put something down on that pit box to keep it dry?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:35 amBluray said:
Would love to hear your thoughts ‘me’
September 12th, 2008 at 9:36 amFlibster said:
Yup. However, you know that some teams will get the 10 place penalty and some will get the drive though - even though it’s all the same regulation they’ve broken.
Oooh, thats nice and wet.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:36 amAlianora La Canta said:
lou, wake up - Button’s on track!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:36 amScott Woodwiss said:
methinks this will be the most boring and uneventful practice session of the season.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:36 amme said:
back in silverstone, alonso said he’d be making announcements about his future plans during this weekend.
anyone heard anything about that, or have his plans changed?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:37 amme said:
practice start for button.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:37 amFlibster said:
Apparently press release monday from what I’ve heard.
Kubica and Alonso at BMW
September 12th, 2008 at 9:37 amChristine said:
Damn that education, getting in the way of all this F1 stuff
September 12th, 2008 at 9:37 amFlibster said:
3 year deal rumoured too.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:37 amme said:
so no ferrari announcement then?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:38 amme said:
i can’t imagine mario going for alonso, but i guess he knows what he’s up to.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:38 amScott Woodwiss said:
he apparently chatted about kubica being a good guy for a teammate and that they used to go karting together. big hints, no?
she can’t hear you - she’s in a lesson
September 12th, 2008 at 9:39 amAlianora La Canta said:
Christine, that was in case lou’s managed to sneak an internet connection into class. Several of my classmates did so in certain classes at sixth form…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:39 amme said:
button loving these wet conditions.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:39 amBluray said:
If that’s the case with Alonso….what happens to the hill-billy then?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:40 amScott Woodwiss said:
he would - he’s won in them once.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:40 amme said:
just le seb on track at the moment.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:40 amRocket said:
Wow, just copped a look at the rear spoiler of the Honda. It really is “just” there isn’t it for this track. (Actually that was 20 minutes ago but had to tend to my baby).
September 12th, 2008 at 9:40 amAlianora La Canta said:
Bourdais’ is on track. Pedro de la Rosa chatting in the pits instead.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:40 amme said:
assuming live time isn’t broken?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:41 amDank said:
Heidfeld is going to Renault apparently. Though I did read he might be off to Toro Rosso as well.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:41 amFlibster said:
Neither can I to be honest. Kubica and Heidfeld are both so… well, dull. They fit with the BMW image perfectly.
Alonso is a hot-headed driver, again, fits the BMW road car driver image.
But I don’t see him fitting in with the team image.
But a 3 year deal with an 2 time world champion could bring the necessary experience to bring them forward by the mythical 6 tenths.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:41 amme said:
and you still find time to watch fp1, i like it
September 12th, 2008 at 9:41 amme said:
alongside piquet? strange combination no?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:41 amScott Woodwiss said:
could you imagine Heidfeld at renault? no, me neither.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:42 amme said:
haha.
not really, nope.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:42 amAlianora La Canta said:
Live Timing is functional, and my viewing of it concurs with me’s view.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:42 amScott Woodwiss said:
i’m gonna text 5l with my knowledge that kimi and lewis did actually touch
September 12th, 2008 at 9:42 amDank said:
Who said anything about Piquet being in F1 next season?!!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:43 amme said:
ahh, don’t encourage them!
is le seb out there on softs??
September 12th, 2008 at 9:44 amBluray said:
Renault seems to be running short of options…..
September 12th, 2008 at 9:44 amme said:
a good point. any takers for the second renault seat though?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:44 amAlianora La Canta said:
The Trulliometer is about to be measured.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:45 amme said:
no, phew. he still has zero grip though.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:45 amFlibster said:
That really is quite a wet track now. Lovely rooster tails coming up.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:45 amRocket said:
Would not miss it (apart from said crying bub). What with all the work you put in, I almost feel obligated. Plus it’s part of my F1 experience these days.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:45 amFlibster said:
One of the Flavio stable of drivers most likely.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:45 amDank said:
Well Grosjean is so-so, hasn’t lived up to his GP2 Asia Series form. He’s almost there. What about di Grassi though? Done quite well in GP2 even though he hasn’t participated in all the races.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:46 amAlianora La Canta said:
Remainder of the session wet. Sutil (almost confirmed) takes P1 - YAY!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:46 amRocket said:
Was interested to hear “all” the drivers’ comments about the penalty handed to Lewis. Almost all in agreement.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:47 amme said:
ha! that’s crazy, but thanks you.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:47 amBluray said:
You said it!! This outta keep Vijay happy thru the weekend atleast.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amBG said:
i haven’t seen this in the comments, so itv-feed outside of the UK:
http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php
same as it was last week, maybe you should replace the bilmosk link with this one in the “F1 on the Internet” section.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amChristine said:
I vote for di Grassis.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amRocket said:
How about a straight swap Piquet for Webber? I know contracts have been signed but it’s only paper.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amme said:
been doing a bit of testing too.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amFlibster said:
Frank Williams is looking more frail every time I see him.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:49 amDank said:
What a fantastic deal for Red Bull!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:49 amme said:
hehehe.
force india are texting 5live now. love it!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amScott Woodwiss said:
i just texted 5L
September 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amAlianora La Canta said:
Houston, we’ve lost R5L!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amme said:
jean alesi hanging out at ferrari.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amScott Woodwiss said:
cool, alesi visiting ferrari.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:51 amme said:
nico off for a run on extreme wets.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:52 amRocket said:
I’m scared. I don’t know what that means, I can’t sense the sarcasm if there is any.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:52 amScott Woodwiss said:
to quote my dad last night “monza in the wet is awesome!”
September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 amAlianora La Canta said:
R5L has returned
September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 amScott Woodwiss said:
rubens locking up in the wet, and trulli goes over the grass at the first chicane
September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 amDank said:
Plenty of sarcasm!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 amAlianora La Canta said:
Nice timing - R5L said “you’re going to avoid the white lines more” just as Jarno Trulli hit one and bounced across a kerb…
September 12th, 2008 at 9:53 amme said:
anyone know anything about f3 driver dani clos? williams testing him next week. is that just to get around the testing restrictions or is he any good? and should kaz be worried?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:54 amScott Woodwiss said:
i read that they’re testing him to fill their young driver testing slot.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:54 amDank said:
16th in his series. So nothing amazing. Think he’s only doing some straight line testing.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:55 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow, flame from the back of nico’s exhaust. i haven’t seen that since the turbo era cars!
September 12th, 2008 at 9:55 amRocket said:
That is so cool Scott. The last time my dad said anything about F1 was a joke about Da Matta. As in “What’s a Da Matta with him?”
September 12th, 2008 at 9:55 amme said:
oh dear. strange choice then
September 12th, 2008 at 9:55 amChristine said:
Groan.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:56 amme said:
piquet loses it. no damage done though.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:56 amScott Woodwiss said:
me and my dad talk about f1 a lot when i’m with him every thursday. makes for good conversation and our views are pretty much exactly the same.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:57 amAlianora La Canta said:
Never heard of Clos, but since there are a vast numbers of drivers that would get round the restrictions (including most GP2 drivers), I think Williams must believe either he is good or that his wallet is good.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:58 amScott Woodwiss said:
i’m guessing the latter
September 12th, 2008 at 9:58 amRocket said:
At the time I didn’t even acknowledge the comment. Goes down as one of the worst dad jokes ever.
I don’t have anyone I can talk to about F1 but all you guys.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:58 amme said:
you great big cynic
kimi… what time did i say?
September 12th, 2008 at 9:59 amAlianora La Canta said:
I can talk about F1 with my parents, but at the moment the only others I can discuss it with are the people on the internet.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:00 amScott Woodwiss said:
jebus, you were almost spot on!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:00 amAlianora La Canta said:
Thunderstorm!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:01 amme said:
ferrari looking heaps better on the extreme wets.
will heavy rain help them more than mclaren, or are macca just fast in every wet condition?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:01 amScott Woodwiss said:
yup, this will now turn into, in batracer terms, storm conditions. better put my wet/dry setup convertor to +50
September 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amAlianora La Canta said:
It’s stopped raining. With 29 minutes to go.
“Health and safety mssage: Stand on a tyre…” Nice R5L message…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amme said:
more drivers now venturing on track.
croftie suggesting holly stands on a tyre to avoid the lightening
September 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amScott Woodwiss said:
and if sutil had batracer traits, one would definately be wet weather warrior
September 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amJon Waldock said:
I’m at college and they’ve blocked ITV feed!!!! My day is ruined
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amme said:
or rather, to save herself from the lightening. going indoors would be avoiding it.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amScott Woodwiss said:
actually wow, it really is dark out there!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amme said:
can ya access justin.tv?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’m at college and they’ve blocked ITV feed!!!! My day is ruined {Joe Waldcock}
Oh no!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amme said:
eerie amongst the trees.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amScott Woodwiss said:
alonso over the chicane, as does vettel.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amme said:
massa braving it out on the wet track. misses almost every apex on route
September 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amAlianora La Canta said:
Can anyone stay on the track right now?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amScott Woodwiss said:
i’m expecting some ghostly old ferrari f1 cars to start lapping the circuit in a minute with the ghost of alberto ascari driving in one of them.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amJon Waldock said:
URL please?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:05 amme said:
http://www.justin.tv/kubicatv
September 12th, 2008 at 10:05 amJon Waldock said:
thankyou
September 12th, 2008 at 10:06 amBG said:
seems that this went unnoticed the first time - itv feed outside of the UK:
http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php
September 12th, 2008 at 10:06 amScott Woodwiss said:
fisi facing the wrong way.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:07 amAlianora La Canta said:
Sutil spins quite stylishly.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:07 amFlibster said:
So up to his normal driving level then?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:07 amAlianora La Canta said:
F1 Racing just got a shout-out - hope it makes Stuart C smile
September 12th, 2008 at 10:08 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow that’s surreal seeing a car’s lights on as an f1 car goes past.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:08 amme said:
hehe. i hope bbc tv do text shout outs next year too.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:08 amme said:
massa driving the old circuit right now… what chicanes?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:08 amChristine said:
Like seeing Massa chicane through the advertising boards.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:08 amScott Woodwiss said:
HAHAHA!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amme said:
gonna be some wonderful photographs this weekend.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amAlianora La Canta said:
Has Fisi spun? He’s just recorded a time Sector 1 time 6 seconds slower than previously…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amme said:
f1 slalom.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amChristine said:
Any darker and it’ll be practice for Singapore!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amFlibster said:
It’s seriously dark out there now.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:10 amScott Woodwiss said:
i’m thinking they’ll have to break out the photo-reactive stickers like they did for the BTCC night races.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:10 amFlibster said:
Someone unplugged the stream?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:10 amScott Woodwiss said:
is anyone’s live feed messed up?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:10 amAlianora La Canta said:
The storm appears to have messed up the feed from ITV. Luckily Radio 5 Live works.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amJeremy said:
Hello all!
I’m late. I have no live timing. I’m guessing it’s playing up for everyone.
Thanks to Zoe for making a comment here earlier.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amScott Woodwiss said:
so f1 is going to become cricket now - stopped play for bad light?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amFlibster said:
Half pitlane and half red bull?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amme said:
has an f1 event ever been cancelled coz of darkness?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amAlianora La Canta said:
Nobody’s feed works.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amScott Woodwiss said:
not that i can remember.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:12 amme said:
live timing says, vettel and rubens out on track.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:12 amDank said:
This been the wettest F1 season for a while?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:12 amAlianora La Canta said:
“You can shut that door now!” Radio 5 Live not impressed with the background guy’s idea of opening the commentary door at the back…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:13 amJon Waldock said:
NOOOO!!!
None of the feeds work and i can’t get on live timing and i don’t even have headphones to listen to 5 Live!!
You guys are going to have to be my eyes and ears….
September 12th, 2008 at 10:13 amChristine said:
And now no one?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:13 amme said:
gotta be. just under 20mins remaining, might be all over already.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:13 amAlianora La Canta said:
At Fuji 1976, they started in monsoon conditions to avoid racing in the dark or postponing the race, but that’s the closest they’ve got.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:13 amme said:
all cars in the pits. nothing to see here
September 12th, 2008 at 10:14 amme said:
thank you alia
September 12th, 2008 at 10:14 amme said:
bourdais saying the rear lights are too bright and making him blind!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:14 amChristine said:
Never seen so many cars without a lap time set.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:14 amJeremy said:
Fuji 76 - was that where Lauda pulled out and Hunt won the Championship?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:14 amScott Woodwiss said:
talk about the red mist decending
September 12th, 2008 at 10:15 amScott Woodwiss said:
force india building an ark! LMFAO!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:15 amDank said:
Someone say waffles?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:15 amScott Woodwiss said:
5L just said waffles!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:15 amme said:
force india are building an ark! rottweilers going in 2×2.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:15 amme said:
awwww.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:16 amScott Woodwiss said:
might actually get them into Q2 instead of their car!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:16 amFlibster said:
Don’t have waffles. Vanilla Krispy Kreme doughnuts.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:16 amChristine said:
That’s soooo last week
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amRocket said:
Wet wet wet.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amFlibster said:
Thunder and lightning? WOOHOO!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amJon Waldock said:
Any other feeds except Justin.tv and the ones listed on the “Formula 1 on the internet” page????
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amJeremy said:
Pancake parlour FTW
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amDank said:
Webber getting a penalty?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amme said:
for what it’s worth, speed trap times:
sut: 327kph
bar: 326kph
fis: 324kph
vet: 317kph
piq 316kph
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amScott Woodwiss said:
ah, so it was the gearbox that caused heikki to stop. just proves my point that that mercedes power pack is bulletproof.
webber gets a penalty?!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:17 amDank said:
Oh maybe not!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:18 amAlianora La Canta said:
Webber’s received a joker for changing his engine.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:18 amme said:
5live saying no. webber’s a joker.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:18 amFlibster said:
Kimi hasn’t said a huge amount?
No change there then.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amScott Woodwiss said:
how can people say he had a slipstream? he was never in a position to get one!
LIVE FEED BACK AND IT’S TIPPING IT DOWN!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amFlibster said:
Now thats moist!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amme said:
any idea what’s happened to the pressure on the live timing page?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amAlianora La Canta said:
Prat perch race!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amChristine said:
That’s beautiful!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amScott Woodwiss said:
wow, even we don’t get weather that bad here in britain. oh wait….
Do you think this weather is from those Gustav and Hannah storms?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amDank said:
It’s absolutely tipping it down!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amAlianora La Canta said:
Under Pressure to FOM!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amFlibster said:
Fatboy olympics!
Genius!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:20 amChristine said:
Poor spectators.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:21 amAlianora La Canta said:
Flood alert! And pressure’s risen like a rocket…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:21 amme said:
holly hiding in the tunnel and still getting wet.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:21 amDank said:
Quick McLaren! Run!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:21 amAlianora La Canta said:
Note: Using a broom as a bailing device will not suffice…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amFlibster said:
I can see why Force India are making an Ark now.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amme said:
i think we can call this session over!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amDank said:
I hear thunder. I hear thunder. Hark can’t you?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amme said:
the others may have laughed. they’re not laughing now.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:22 amAlianora La Canta said:
Pressure dropping again. What happened to the rain stopping 15 minutes before the end (that was 7 minutes ago!)
September 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amBluray said:
And hand the session to Sutil!!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amScott Woodwiss said:
i don’t think we’ve seen weather this bad since suzuka 2004 or 2005 qualifying. they had to cancel it because of the weather. i remember that because they showed a program about murray walker instead.
LMAO at McLaren. Although massa and smedley don’t seem too bothered.
if we get weather like this on sunday, then i’m already proclaming it to be the race of the season
I reckon we’d see a surprise winner too! FORCE INDIA AND SUTIL FTW! 
September 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amme said:
thunder only happens when its raining.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amScott Woodwiss said:
which its clear to see that it’s doing now.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amme said:
night time in monza.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amAlianora La Canta said:
Looks dry in the Force India garage - their Ark obviously works!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amScott in Italy said:
I just turned on to the F1 world for the day, and sutil is #1. hilarious.
sadly i am not at Monza. but hey, as long as I’ve got the internet and maybe the tv i should be just fine.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amScott Woodwiss said:
at about 11am-12pm in the afternoon
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amme said:
hahaha.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amFlibster said:
Taking the bodywork out into the pitlane? Needs a wash?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amDank said:
Crofty and Hamilton getting wet!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:25 amme said:
morning scott.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:25 amChristine said:
Should have saved our In the Rain song for this weekend!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:25 amme said:
hello?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:25 amAlianora La Canta said:
Now that’s how you fix the flooding problem - remove a drain cover! Like it…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:25 amScott Woodwiss said:
i’m gonna play that song for the hell of it
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amBluray said:
If they had a graph for Intensity of rain(Instead of a binary 0/1)….I’m sure it wud be off limits now.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amme said:
good lord, all of the garages are flooding.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amScott in Italy said:
http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php
this is working now, but it did not last race. nice shot of garage cleaning….
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amAlianora La Canta said:
The session is over, so the Five Live crew are abandoning ship…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amme said:
5live are about to be washed off of air!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amScott Woodwiss said:
5L bailing out? that means sutil’s P1! WOOP!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amme said:
session cancelled and 5live are going.
blimey.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:26 amScott Woodwiss said:
yup, session has been red flagged.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:27 amScott in Italy said:
looks like a perfect day to break out some board games…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:27 amScott Woodwiss said:
now playing “in the rain”
September 12th, 2008 at 10:27 amScott Woodwiss said:
at the same time the highlights come on
perfect song!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:27 amme said:
highlights are replaying already.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amDank said:
Well that was the possibly the most peculiar FP session for a while!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amChristine said:
It’s gonna be a short F1 Digest!!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amFlibster said:
My playlist has randomised and played this:
Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down
September 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amScott Woodwiss said:
lol, this in the rain song seems perfect for these highlights.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:29 amFlibster said:
I want the race in these conditions!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:29 amFlibster said:
Five Live are just playing the same advert over and over..
September 12th, 2008 at 10:30 amChristine said:
If it turns out anything like the last lap at Spa, I really don’t!!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:30 amJeremy said:
I don’t - Lewis will try too hard to make up for last week and crash
September 12th, 2008 at 10:30 amJon Waldock said:
they do that, its very annoying
September 12th, 2008 at 10:30 amAlex Andronov said:
Hello everyone
September 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amDank said:
Finished their coverage now until FP2
September 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amKathi said:
any wishes?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amJon Waldock said:
tad late, but hi
September 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amAlianora La Canta said:
Rhianna’s “Umbrella” sounds useful at this time.
I’ve got an awesome couple of shots of Italian atmospheric rain through the screen capture.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:31 amme said:
comedy timing!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amJeremy said:
the whole session! kidding…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amAlex Andronov said:
Try my best
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amFlibster said:
If the weather is like this, they’ll start behind the safety car and just pootle around
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amChristine said:
Doesn’t sound much fun.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amScott Woodwiss said:
6 cars didn’t set a time
got “Teardrop” by massive attack playing now
September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amJon Waldock said:
BOOOOO *hisss*
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amme said:
kathi you’re ace.
anything different would be cool. so, some of the dark shots, rain, or cars with flashing red lights.
can we have a pick n’ mix?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amScott in Italy said:
even I got here, 5 minutes ago
2 and a half hours until the next one.
I’m in a different part of italy and the weather is great. i might check out some italian weather sites and figure out what is going on.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amBluray said:
Any predictions for fp2?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amScott in Italy said:
rain
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amScott Woodwiss said:
if it ever goes ahead? if this weather continues they might just cancel it.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:33 amAlex Andronov said:
Perhaps Jordan would want: “We all live in a Yellow Submarine”.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:34 amDank said:
Damn, I’m going to have to do my FR predictions now. FP1 was no help to me! Damn you rain! DAMN YOU!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:34 amJon Waldock said:
they have to have a certain amount of practice though.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:34 amme said:
just saw someone in the pitlane with an iphone weather app. might need to find that.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:34 amJeremy said:
I think with the recent test session, it wont make too much difference if they do cancel it
September 12th, 2008 at 10:34 amAlianora La Canta said:
I’d like the last 15 minutes please, to watch the amusement of the knock-out match of FP1:
The Teams V. The Water
September 12th, 2008 at 10:35 amFlibster said:
FP2 prediction - wet.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amChristine said:
With Sutil on top, the comparitor will be interesting!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amme said:
are the gp2 cars going to go out in this?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 amJon Waldock said:
my FP2 prediction……cars……crashes…..
September 12th, 2008 at 10:37 amScott in Italy said:
one weather forecast has storms forecast for this afternoon and all day Saturday. Sunday morning some showers and overcast in the race afternoon. should be interesting.
it’s in italian, but there are pictures
http://www.ilmeteo.it/meteo/Monza
September 12th, 2008 at 10:37 amFlibster said:
Hope so.
They’re chaotic in the dry.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:37 amJon Waldock said:
from a saftey point id hope not….from an entertainment point YES YES YES
September 12th, 2008 at 10:37 amScott Woodwiss said:
well to be honest christine, i get what you mean about it not being a proper race, but what else do you expect them to do? they can’t control the weather, so they have to make do with what they have and do what they think is right. If they let them race at normal speeds, there’d be no-one left on circuit and the race would be stopped anyway. best to at least get the cars out at some speed behind the safety car to try and sweep the water away.
they’ve had situations like this in fuji last year, belgium 97, and adelaide in 1990 and 1991. they had to actually cancel the race after 15 laps or so because the conditions were just as they are now - virtually undriveable. that race is on record as the shortest f1 race in the history of the championship.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:38 amDank said:
Me to. Might play into Bruno’s hands as well!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:38 amScott Woodwiss said:
might take on a few tricks his uncle learned
September 12th, 2008 at 10:38 amScott Woodwiss said:
looks like they can’t switch off the live feed. it’s come back on twice
September 12th, 2008 at 10:39 amme said:
just watching the startline lights. i’m telling you, every third blink is slower.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:39 amJon Waldock said:
Donnington 1993 allll over again
September 12th, 2008 at 10:39 amAlianora La Canta said:
So qualifying will be in the rain and the race in the dry? Interesting…
September 12th, 2008 at 10:39 amScott Woodwiss said:
you stole that from the cars film
September 12th, 2008 at 10:40 amJon Waldock said:
i wish they had single lap qualifying now, that would make a Japan 2005 race again!!!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:40 amFlibster said:
Awww. They’ve switched it off again.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:40 amScott Woodwiss said:
September 12th, 2008 at 10:41 amAlianora La Canta said:
Adelaide 1991 - 14 laps and it still took nearly half an hour to do them!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:41 amme said:
did they walk?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:41 amScott Woodwiss said:
my point exactly.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:42 ampmtate said:
Having got streaming to work on tv am just watching the videos on the Williams F1 website, testing at Kemble etc
Paul
September 12th, 2008 at 10:44 amScott Woodwiss said:
should have been playing “singing in the rain” by gene kelly.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:45 amJon Waldock said:
has anyone watched the video highlights on the f1 site for the last race??? i love the ending!!! its awesome
September 12th, 2008 at 10:46 amScott Woodwiss said:
seems like the appropriate song i’ve got on at the moment is from the ridge race type 4 game soundtrack - a song called Garage Talk. That’s all it seems to be at the moment and likely to be for FP2.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:47 amme said:
“Otmar Szafnauer, Honda Racing’s director of strategy and business planning, has left the outfit in the wake of a management reshuffle brought about by the arrival of team principal Ross Brawn.”
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70492
September 12th, 2008 at 10:53 amAlianora La Canta said:
That’s interesting. Does this mean Ross has decided Honda need sponsors rather than the status quo?
September 12th, 2008 at 10:54 amme said:
final times:
September 12th, 2008 at 10:54 amJon Waldock said:
I shall have to bid you farewell, but hopefully i’m around for FP2 or atleast part of it!!!
Ciao
September 12th, 2008 at 10:55 amChristine said:
Fantasy Racers reminder is done.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:58 amChristine said:
Personally, I would rather a race was delayed or cancelled than watch the cars trundle round behind a safety car. That situation isn’t a race, and it’s a waste of my time. I take on board all your points, and I know they can’t control the weather. I’m still bitter about the last lap at Spa, so probably best not to listen to me.
September 12th, 2008 at 10:58 amme said:
cheers jon.
September 12th, 2008 at 11:03 amScott Woodwiss said:
while we’re on the subject of torrential rain, let’s try and make a list for the hell of it of all the races which at some point during the weekend was affected by storms and the like. so far, i think of:
Fuji 1976 - whole race
Monaco 1984 - whole race, was red flagged.
Adelaide 1989 - whole race, prost gave up after 1 lap in the conditions
Adelaide 1991 - whole race, was cancelled after 14 laps
Kyalami 1993 - right at the end of the race
Interlagos 1993 - during the race, caused prost to go off. weather cleared up
Donington 1993 - whole