Inside Track - Singapore
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Although it hasn’t been widely reported, and while certain factions of the racing community are keen to keep it hush hush, Formula One may be about to happen upon its very first night race.
It’s difficult to escape the fact that the upcoming Grand Prix is an evening affair, and Inside Track is no exception. In this edition we hear from current drivers, ex-drivers, and the men behind the men, about what might lie in store this coming weekend.
Don’t forget the obligatory lap of the circuit too. This one’s a proper street circuit, so there’s plenty to take in and who better to guide you around the twists and turns than Sidepodcast’s one and only commentator, Christine. You wouldn’t have it any other way, right?
Special thanks go out to Allianz SE, Toyota Motorsports GmbH, AT&T Williams, Royal Bank of Scotland and RTV GmbH for the use of their video footage.
September 25th, 2008 at 11:12 amStuart C said:
In other news, word reaches us that Ernie has commanded that searchlights be trained on the skyscrapers of Singapore to dazzle the residents so they can’t watch the race for free…
September 25th, 2008 at 11:56 amAlex Andronov said:
He’s such a card.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmSteven Roy said:
What next machine gunners sweeping the Monaco balconies
September 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pmSteven Roy said:
I think that is the best Inside Track you have done so far. I don’t know why but it just all seemed to work together somehow.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pmme said:
thank you steven.
as ever, the quality of the output relies heavily on the quality of the input, and teams appear keen to pull out all the stops for this one.
having excess material to work with helps us immensely.
plus, y’know, christine’s circuit guide’s just get better with each race
September 25th, 2008 at 12:34 pmAlianora La Canta said:
In other news, word reaches us that Ernie has commanded that searchlights be trained on the skyscrapers of Singapore to dazzle the residents so they can’t watch the race for free… {Stuart C - first comment}
Please tell me that’s a joke, Stuart. Not only is that not nice for the non-ticket-holding skyscraper spectators, but I’ve got an F1-agnostic friend in a skyscraper nearby who would like to be able to sleep to the rhythms of the F1 cars…
September 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pmScott Woodwiss said:
On the subject of Jackie Stewart saying single-seaters have never raced on a road circuit in the dark, well he’s wrong. A couple of years ago in 2006, I think, the Champ Car World Series raced on the streets of Houston at night as a support race to the American Le Mans Series. And a certain Mr. Bourdais was driving in that race too.
So for him, this kind of racing experience might not be so strange. 
Also, after a search on YouTube, the CCWS also ran at night at the Cleveland airport circuit in 2003.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Cleveland 2003
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2JLups6WQU
Houston 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwgJQ5ISAA
September 25th, 2008 at 1:35 pmme said:
good find scott
bad jys
although the video you linked to doesn’t look much like a street circuit?
September 25th, 2008 at 1:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:
the majority of Champ Car’s street circuits, with the exception of Surfer’s Paradise, never were proper street circuits like Monaco or Macau. They are wider than what is recognised as a proper street circuit, I’ll give you that, but then their locations are mainly around parks and at the edge of big city centres.
They’re kind of like what Melbourne is, but tighter and much bumpier.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pmme said:
fair enough. i see some buildings in the background too.
September 25th, 2008 at 2:00 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Examples of typical North American street circuits:
Long Beach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byYr06PN2f4
Las Vegas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdRprorNMeU
Toronto (Canada)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sWa0JdUvj0
Detroit (Belle Isle Park)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDzHuLlcxfQ
In some cases, they’re more like Valencia, only not as boring
September 25th, 2008 at 2:02 pmStuart C said:
Who’s going to be first to crack their tub on those curious protrusions at Turn 10?
September 25th, 2008 at 2:02 pmScott Woodwiss said:
last comment’s in moderation
September 25th, 2008 at 2:38 pmScott said:
Friend of Sidepodcast Bob Constanduros has his own blog* for the Singapore weekend over at Pitpass.
*With no separate feed, nor an opportunity for readers to post comments, I don’t think it’s overly pedantic to point out that Pitpass’ use of the term ‘blog’ is somewhat misleading.
September 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pmAlex Andronov said:
James Allen in a bit of a lack of self awareness here talking about Vettel:
from: http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Ask_The_Team&id=44054&PO=44054
September 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pmme said:
agreed!
ed straw was similarly confused the other week, but figured it out in the end.
good to see bob writing, regardless of what they label it. i had no idea that’s what he looked like though.
September 25th, 2008 at 2:44 pmme said:
gah! he cannot be serious can he? it’s cause vettel’s helmet isn’t yellow right?
methinks it’s gonna hurt allen deep inside if it’s vettel who becomes f1’s new super star. real.pain.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pmScott said:
Pitpass divide opinion amongst F1 fans, but I like their site. However, using words like ‘blog’ inappropriately gives the impression that they don’t have a clue about new media, which is a little unfortunate for a website. What’s wrong with a more traditional term, like ‘column’?
I’m also pleased to see Bob writing for them, though. The views of those with access to Formula One’s inner sanctum are nearly always interesting.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pmStuart C said:
He also knows where they keep the champaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagne…
September 25th, 2008 at 3:33 pmme said:
to be honest, it gives the impression that they consider blogs / blogging a threat to their business model and thus feel the need to react.
patently that’s an absurd notion, but possibly highlights a lack of understanding on their part, again making them look a little silly.
also, they run the risk of annoying a small but vocal bunch of people, who in this particular instance have a greater understanding of the medium in which pitpass / it’s editors are attempting to venture.
hopefully by sunday, it’ll be renamed bob’s column
September 25th, 2008 at 3:33 pmSteven Roy said:
I haven’t seen anything Bob has written in years. He used to have a regular column in one of the comics but that was a very long time ago. Does he write regularly anywhere now?
September 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Posted another “claim to fame” on the facebook page. Did you guys know you’ve got over 350 members now?
September 25th, 2008 at 3:41 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Do you think whenever he celebrates something, he says that every time?
“Happy Birthday Mum. And now, the CHAMPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGNE!”
“Erm, Bob….there isn’t any.”
“Oh…….crap.”
September 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pmme said:
i didn’t, but the two of us are sulking about facebook this week, after they pulled a youtube style “your video has been pulled due to copyright theft” stunt on us.
again, it means we have to go out of our way to prove their software is rubbish, that it’s managed to misidentify legitimate material and could they please re-instate said content, thank you.
just like youtube, the video comes back once they appreciate the error, but the same thing will happen next week and the week after. and never will an apology be forthcoming.
we simply don’t have time to keep up that kind of legal admin. plus, it’s disheartening and depressing after spending many, many hours on a show.
i will check out your claim to fame though
September 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pmJordan Allen (Sorry, long rant) said:
Scott
You really need to be a comdian. Either that or do a little bit of research.
First of all, a little bit of terminology. Any circuit that has more than 4 turns in America is considered to be a Road course. If a circuit has 4 turns it is called an oval. If a circuit has 3 turns it is called a tri-oval. Do not ask me how they came up with tri-oval.
So in its last season of running, Champ car had nothing but Road courses. The purpose built racing circuits are called Permanent Road courses. Temporary Road Courses are conversions of other things into racing circuits. in this sub-catagory your will find your street circuits.
First of all I am going to be really nice and say I am just looking at circuits for the 2008 Champ Car season.
Laguna Sega, Zolder, Jerez, Mont-Tremblant, Portland, Road America, Assen (Holland) and Mexico City are all Purpose-built racing cirucits.
As a matter of fact, Zolder, Jerez, Mont-Tremblant and Mexico City all held Grand Prixes in there present form.
Now for the other six temporary road circuits.
Both Cleveland and Deadmanton (Sorry Canuck speak for Edmonton) are held on the local airport. As in the taxiways and the runways and the apron of the aiport itself. Therefore, since airplanes are not to be found on streets (crashes expected) Cleveland and Edmonton can not be considered a street circuit.
The track at Houston is held at Reliant Park. It is a square mile parking lot. No really. A parking lot that is a square mile in area. The entire Indy 500 circuit does not even cover a square mile so you can see how they can fit a race track into a parking lot a square mile in area. It is home to the Houston baseball, football teams, the convention centre and Texas being texas, the Livestock Show. (Beef on the Hoof).
Is a parking lot what you would call a street circuit? God forbid, no.
Which leaves Long Beach, Toronto, and Surfer’s Paradise.
Long Beach. They use the old F1 circuit. You need to drive on East/West Shoreline Drive (the pit straight) Make the left onto Aquarium Way (Where you past the Aquarium of the Pacific by the way) Make the left onto Queensway Bay the (circuit actually goes right here onto South Chestnut Place, and back in the opposite direction of Shoreline….
On Queensway Bay you go over the International Shipping Channel to Queens Highway. Home of Long Beach’s most famous Hotel, the Ocean Liner RMS Queen Mary. By California standards these are quite narrow streets. You can only fit six cars abreast….. The streets should be wider but it right in the heart of Long Beach. You can not find a better example of a street circuit anywhere on the planet.
The City of Houston is supposed to cover something like 200 square miles. All I know is that on a clear highway at 2 am in the morning on a highway at 75 mph, it tracks me 2 hours to travel from one end of the city to the other….. Imgaine. travelling a distance of 150 miles, and you are in the same damn city…..
Toronto is a street circuit. The main straight is on side of a 6 lane main communter road known as Lakeshore Blvd. If you look closely at either end of Lakeshore Blvd, you will see the streetlights used to control road traffic.
I do not want to tell you how many times driving down either Manitoba Drive or Princess Blvd have saved me from being late to work When either Lakeshore Blvd or the Gardiner Expressway (The elvated Highway you see to the left as the cars are on Manitoba) are jammed solid. The trick is to get on what I call “Lower Duffin Street” and making the right to the road that takes you to the “Food” building of the Exhibition.
Surfer’s Paradise, well, you already know about. So 50% of the temporary road courses are in fact, street circuits by any possible definition of the word street cirtcuit.
September 25th, 2008 at 4:27 pmR.G (Aiming to become the president of the FIA, UEFA, ICC and Sidepodcast) said:
I want to go! Why is their school?
This looks mint, really looking forward to it. Not just the fact its a street circuit in the dark, but the scenery looks unbelievable. The skyscrapers and the ferris wheel are stunning. It would still be as great during the day.
If it rains, I can see FIF1 getting their first points, specially after Sutil’s performance in Monaco.
For BMW, would be happy with a podium
September 25th, 2008 at 4:55 pmJordan Allen said:
Yes please tell me you’re in a comical mood Stuart, as I am quite in the dark myself as to Erine’s lastest plans….
September 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pmJordan Allen said:
Why are my comments disappearing into the moderation queue?
September 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pmme said:
great insight from gorman here:
http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one/2008/09/hiding-from-the.html
“This evening the safety car and the medical car were whizzing round getting to know the circuit which was dustier and dirtier than anywhere I’ve seen. Suddenly the lights went out on a section after Turn 3 and we all thought ‘Oh my God - what the hell has happened.’”
“It turned out of course that this had been done on purpose just to see how the drivers coped with the dark patch and then they cranked it all back up again. The two cars did not slow but the on-board footage through the dark bits looked terrifying.(None of us are expecting this to actually happen for real).”
September 25th, 2008 at 6:33 pmKris said:
That was a wonderful inside track. I’m not sure what you tweaked this time round, or whether it was (as you stated) just an excess of quality material to use. Whatever the cause, this episode really does showcase what sidepodcast adds to each weekend. The track run-through video was exceptional this time round also… Maybe they figured that the rest of the tracks this year dont need much tweaking from last time, and blew the budget on it.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:44 pmme said:
i wish we knew!
it might be, and this is only an assumption on my part, that the 3d animations from other circuits are getting on a bit now. by creating a brand new track model, it means they get to leverage any graphic innovations that have occurred in the past few years.
of note i spotted that the car now sports bridgestone branded tyres, which wasn’t the case with other animations this season (aside from the one for valencia).
September 25th, 2008 at 6:48 pmme said:
no idea, sorry just checked the queue. gimmie 5 mins.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:57 pmme said:
that is a very educational post, thank you jordan.
and by the gist of what you’re saying, we can conclude that sir jackie was in fact correct?
September 25th, 2008 at 7:30 pmScott Woodwiss said:
well excuse me for not being a genius…
September 25th, 2008 at 7:32 pmScott Woodwiss said:
off the subject of knowing all about street circuits, Franck’s been busy testing an Indycar with Andretti Green
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70835
This bit caught my eye especially:
Interesting.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pmme said:
did you mean to quote the whole thing, or is that a live commenting bug?
September 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pmScott Woodwiss said:
no I meant it
September 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pmme said:
well that’s good.
although i’m not sure it was worth reading twice
*ducks from incoming jordan abuse*
September 25th, 2008 at 7:54 pmSteven Roy said:
Nice to see Franck getting a chance in an IRL car. I wonder what opportunities he has in Europe.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:55 pmChristine said:
Really? I kinda assumed that a street circuit was any in an urban area not specifically designed for the purpose, as opposed to tracks/runways, etc.
Is there an official definition or is it just a matter of opinion?
September 25th, 2008 at 8:08 pmR.G (Aiming to become the president of the FIA, UEFA, ICC and Sidepodcast) said:
I thought it was a track that was run on used streets. Not permanent tracks? Not permanent is probs the definition
September 25th, 2008 at 8:24 pmAlex Andronov said:
I am going to take a stab at a definition of a street course (only my own opinion).
A street track is one on which you can drive part of (or the whole of) the track in your road car without permission from anyone to do so.
The car park one is an interesting half way house because of the temporary nature of it. But I guess certain F1 tracks only get raced on basically once or twice a year so I imagine they have many of the same characteristics despite being “permanent”.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:32 pmSteveintheUK said:
Is it just me or does any body else feel sorry for the last people to park in this lot? going around the cars, they would have to walk over a mile from the car to get to the stadium. That’s one place I would really want to arrive early at.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:34 pmJordan Allen said:
Yeah well, the section of Lakeshore Blvd that’s part of the Indycar track, on a good day will take 15 minutes to cover in the rush hour, one way. Given that we have four weeks total vacation time here I am spending 3 full days per year (365-114 = 141 * 2 * .25) = 70.5 hours / 24 = 2.????) in traffic just trying to get from one end of the backstraight to the other. That’s murder, and I got smart and switched over to the night shift. And then some kid from England says its not a street circuit it just rubs you off the wrong way.
It sure is not a private closed road course like Elkhart Lake…. I use that stretch of road every day on my communte to work.
After a few months of getting stuck in traffic on your way to and from work you see how annoying it is.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pmJordan Allen said:
I think as a Houston sport fan you are pretty well looking up the garbage chute. NASA holds all their meetings at the convention centreand the Beef show probaility runs 24/7, as steak does not get a vacation.
But you can not think of two safer locations to hold a night race. A parking lot and an airport. Like what is there to hit?
September 25th, 2008 at 8:48 pmme said:
see, i was hoping to get some kind of sensationalist blogger headline out of this, along the lines of:
f1 legend sir jackie stewart gets his facts very, very wrong (shock horror, max told us this all along)
now all i’ve got to work with is the semantics of what does or does not constitute a street track.
my career is finished
September 25th, 2008 at 8:50 pmChristine said:
Couple of things you would have struggled with, firstly, it’s not catchy enough for a sensational blogger, and secondly, headlines use CAPITAL LETTERS.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:54 pmAlex Andronov said:
hahaha
September 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pmJourneyer said:
Brilliant vid, guys! Well done!
Off to the airport then.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pmJordan Allen said:
I love that defintion of a street circuit, Alex. it excludes the parking lots as there might be parked cars on what was once the temp racing circuit.
And obviosuly you are going to need permssion to take your car out on a spin of the main runway of your local airport….
It also seems to fit some circuits, like Montreal at are not really in a urban setting (no or very few buildings)but the public is allowed (in some cases encourage) to go to the track and wander about. The re-numbered the bus routes in Montreal, the track is now part of No. 167 bus line.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pmAlex Andronov said:
I guessed it was Me who did the “michael who” shirts on cafe press as it wasn’t “Michael who”!
September 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pmme said:
cheers journeyer, you have a fab time
September 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pmSteven Roy said:
Have fun in Singapore Journeyer
September 25th, 2008 at 9:01 pmSteven Roy said:
While you are working out your street track definitions remember the public can drive the Nordschleife
September 25th, 2008 at 9:05 pmJordan Allen said:
Sorry, me. I can not see how we can call Runways, taxiways and aprons at airports “streets”.
And I am pretty sure you get arrestted by the property owners security guards and not the police in a parking lot. If a parking lot where to fall under the heading of a “street” I think the police would be able to arrest you under your country’s Highway and Transportation Acts.
Anyone wants to volunteer to get arrested on a parking lot?
So i think JYS was correct in this instance, although being a former-Stewart fan, I might be biased.
September 25th, 2008 at 9:06 pmme said:
at night?
September 25th, 2008 at 9:06 pmChristine said:
And because I’m the nice one
September 25th, 2008 at 9:14 pmSteven Roy said:
There is a 24 hour race for saloon cars where they start something like 160 cars. I am not sure if it is open to the public at night. Could make it difficult to hose the bodies off the track.
September 25th, 2008 at 9:21 pmme said:
yeah, but jys said “single seaters”. he did his research didn’t he?
September 25th, 2008 at 9:25 pmSteven Roy said:
http://www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=361
It closes to the public at 19:15 just now. I guess that varies depending on the time of year
September 25th, 2008 at 9:28 pmR.G (Aiming to become the president of the FIA, UEFA, ICC and Sidepodcast) said:
Did someone mention the Nurburgring?
September 25th, 2008 at 9:57 pmJordan Allen said:
No. Just we just mentioned “Nordschliefe”….Nurburgring is just so….sedate in comparsion, it is only a 3.41 mile extension so that the drivers can get a chance to relax zzzz…..
September 25th, 2008 at 10:17 pmSteve T. said:
I know it’s late in the season but I’ve joined Fantasy Racers to get used to it before next season. I wanted to join the Sidepodcast league but it wants a league number and password.
Can anyone help me out please? I’ve been trawling around the site for the details promised in podcast #55.
September 25th, 2008 at 10:24 pmme said:
it’s never too late steve, we’re perennial underachievers around here. the info you need can be found here:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/02/25/its-only-make-believe/
September 25th, 2008 at 10:27 pmme said:
btw… podcast #55? seems like forever ago.
September 25th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAlex Andronov said:
So I have a theory about the Inside track. My feeling is that under the pressure of the live broadcasts you have got more polished every time. It might have seemed like a backwards step before but you seem to have it in hand now.
I wonder if with that pressure removed while recording inside track might have meant that it seems easier which might make you feel more experienced which might make you feel more confident and might be the X Factor (the real version not the TV show).
Or something?
September 25th, 2008 at 10:32 pmme said:
hmmm… interesting.
might be one for christine to answer, i will say that since starting live shows, we’re even more pushed for time, so production quality should technically deteriorate. which in fact it did for the monza preview to the point the girl was unavailable for recording.
September 25th, 2008 at 10:36 pmSteve T. said:
Thank you kindly.
Incidently, on the earlier topic of street courses, doesn’t Spa include public roads?
September 25th, 2008 at 10:41 pmChristine said:
Sounds like it could be right. I definitely think doing that first Inside Track live helped. It was almost revelatory to me, that there were people out there watching. Obviously, there are the comments, and I’ve seen the download stats, but when we filmed, it was always just to a camera and “me”. After we’d done the live thing, I felt like I was talking to you lovely people, and I think it’s made it more enjoyable, and hopefully I’ve improved slightly because of it.
However, Alex could be on to something. Recording Inside Track is probably the easiest thing we do, once it’s all set up.
September 25th, 2008 at 10:41 pmSteven Roy said:
Spa certainly used to be part public roads. I think it was made a permanent circuit a couple of years ago. No doubt someone will now prove I am talking complete rubbish
September 25th, 2008 at 10:44 pmAlex Andronov said:
They might even call you young if the form is anything to go by
September 25th, 2008 at 10:46 pmAlenyaa said:
Too bad I won’t make it for any of the FP sessions, but I should make the quali session.
Race I’ll be watching at my dad’s in the Stone Age, so won’t make it for that one either I’m afraid…
And I feel very disrespectful saying this, but I almost fell asleep listening to Sir Jacky…
September 26th, 2008 at 12:19 amScott said:
Mateschitz is looking to get himself involved in the battle to take control of Real Mallorca.
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080923/noticia_53544860751.html
There are five potential bidders:
1. English businessman Paul Davidson - whose €36m bid is the only offer on the table - has been favourite to complete the takeover for some time now.
2. Mateschitz is looking to hijack the deal, with an offer as high as €50m.
3. Miradil Djalalov - a Uzbeki businessman who apparently has been making it known that he’s prepared to better a Mateschitz bid.
4. Freddy Sheperd. *shudders*
5. An unnamed Argentine consortium, who possess valuable media rights in their own country.
I know this story has been reported in the British press, who claim that Mateschitz is the leading contender, but Man City’s new owners are looking to gazump him. This appears to be fabricated nonsense, and Davidson remains favourite to takeover the club, but Mateschitz is serious about putting together a rival offer.
Grupo Drac, the parent company of Mallorca’s owners, filed for insolvency back in June. Ultimately a Spanish judge will decide who gains control of the club.
What does this all mean for Toro Rosso, and even Red Bull, if Mateschitz is successful? Although he already owns two football clubs, la Primera Division is a whole different kettle of fish, and significantly more costly.
September 26th, 2008 at 12:26 amSteven Roy said:
Red Bull spends so much money on sport that this is really a drop in the ocean. It won’t affect any other part of his empire
September 26th, 2008 at 1:23 amScott Woodwiss said:
Yeah, and I have a chance of beating Christine in these last few races
September 26th, 2008 at 6:41 amJordan Allen said:
“back in my day not only was spa on public roads but “chicane” was flemish for “avoid the cow on the road!” it used to be that some farmer did not properly mend his fence the day before the race and a cow would break through the rotten wood fencing and wander out on to the the track. such a fate happen to me at the approach to the Bus Stop. I was able to avoid the cow but went wide and crashed my Honda into the queue here sign instead. ”
Transcript from “me”’s autobibliography, Chapter 6: How JYS beat me to 2nd place at the ‘65 Belgium Grand Prix…
So the two questions I have to ask “me” were you or Richie Ginther Team Lead at Honda and was your surname at the time “Button?”
.
Seriously folks:
From what I recall I think it was the 2nd to last time that Spa was taken off the calendar that the circuit was closed to the driving public. I wonder what happened to those poor peopel who actually used the bus stop for its proper purpose?
September 26th, 2008 at 8:50 amAlianora La Canta said:
My body clock is obviously a bit skewed from all this late-night argumentation. I logged in thinking I was going to see some practise at 9am. Instead I discover it’s at midday! What’s going on?
September 26th, 2008 at 9:01 amAlex Andronov said:
The teams lobbied to have more testing in the dark.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:04 amme said:
i think christine has a post pending soon. basically we’ll just have to start the discussion earlier
September 26th, 2008 at 9:12 amStuart C said:
And, if you want to be really accurate, in Impact or Compacta typeface…
Apologies, Christine, but I must share: this morning the radio alarm activated and I Think We’re Alone Now by Tiffany was on. Have you got a song and a dance in your head now?
September 26th, 2008 at 9:20 amFlibster said:
Oh god….I have the 7″ vinyl of that.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:24 amme said:
oh children behave.
there was dance?
September 26th, 2008 at 9:29 amChristine said:
Quick, change the subject!!
FP1 thread is now up: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/26/live-commenting-singapore-free-practice-1/
September 26th, 2008 at 11:06 amSteven Roy said:
I don’t think the Bus Stop was a functioning bus stop. It was a late addition to the track to stop cars arriving at La Source at full speed.
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