Episode 79 - A Certain Team Fluffed a Certain Pitstop
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The anticipation for Formula 1’s first ever night race has been building since Singapore was announced. Now we rake over all that happened, take a couple of calls, and get feedback from the circuit.
Intro
Doing a show on a full stomach may just calm the hyperactivity.
Good Week / Bad Week
A good week for David Croft and Richard Cregan who have both secured jobs, but a bad week for, well, everyone.
Qualifying
So many incidents, which highlighted issues with the marshals and intrigue about the safety barriers. Also, we discuss Trulli driving the wrong way round the track, and why Ferrari’s can’t turn circles.
The Race
It was a brilliant race, there’s no disguising the fact. We look at who did well, who was anonymous, and who throws like a girl. Plus, we hear from a couple of callers, and get two voicemails from trackside.
Feedback
Two emails, one with some fantastic Singapore stats, the other about F1 on the internet, leading to some discussion of embedding video.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:12 amJourneyer said:
First! Yay! Wow! Thanks guys, great show!
Now, GET SOME SLEEP!
September 30th, 2008 at 1:18 amSteven Roy said:
Fabulous editting Christine.
The Toyota flashing pitboard is pretty standard for night time in sportscar racing. I am surprised only Toyota used it. It’s not so long ago McLaren raced at and won Le Mans and Ferrari (Maserati - Mika Salo) is involved in sportscars now.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:19 amAlianora La Canta said:
Seeing a show with a title I derived (can’t claim credit for saying the words though
) makes me smile.
Maybe I should get some sleep too before I fall asleep on my keybgfuijrgbuquireqobgq…
[Wakes up]
Oh dear!
September 30th, 2008 at 1:26 amOllie said:
You so should’ve left in Me’s laughing when he first looked at the comments answering the Rosberg-tyre question. That was a classic Sidepodcast Live Comment moment*. Having said that, great ‘cast, nice length and entertaining and informative as usual.
*Although it’s in the video, so I understand.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:31 amScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
Just thinking back to this weekend gone’s action - wasn’t it great to see the one thing F1’s been lacking for years come back - SPARKS!
If it was me, I’d push the plank up a bit into the car and make the titanium skid blocks bigger, so that we can see them more often
September 30th, 2008 at 5:07 amJordan Allen said:
Greetings evryone.
Of the top people in terms of points of Fantasy Racers, The Sidepodcast League has four teams in the top five…
1st Girardi F1 (695 points) 154th Place in the Sidepodcast League and started from Belgium.
2nd Jordan F1. (613 points)
tied Kamloops F1 (613 points)
5th Sandbagging (603 points - tied for 3rd place)
So Christine start plugging the prize section to G. R. in the hopes that you might get another shirt….
September 30th, 2008 at 5:52 amJourneyer said:
So much for me attending BOTH the 1st AND the 2nd ever F1 night races:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/169626-0/malaysia_says_no_to_f1_night_race_idea.html
Malaysia says ‘no’ to F1 night race idea.
So that would mean that the start now takes place at 5 PM local time, although the boss of Sepang may have gotten his timezones mixed up.
Oh well, I guess I need to see live F1 in the daytime too. Hehehe. But seriously, at least it seems to me that Bernie is OK with limiting his night races in a given year, as he understands that there is a novelty to it, as least right now.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:19 amme said:
am just gonna jump in before anyone reads the same story and suggests the same thing… she’s not having one!
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/bear
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7638172.stm
September 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pmradix said:
Best team calculations:
Rosberg 6.7 161
Glock 5.8 131
Vettel 5.2 111
Alonso 9.9 211
Coulthard 6.4 101
34 715 21.03
September 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pmSteven Roy said:
Well since you are not using your bath for an otter why not a baby polar bear?
September 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pmSteven Roy said:
I just realised that I made a very slight, minor error in the start time for Franck’s ALMS race on Saturday. So minor that it is hardly worth mentioning but I said the start time was 11:15am and it is but it is 11:15am EDT which means it is 16:45 UK. As I said just a very minor error but I didn’t want anyone turning up a few minutes early and thinking the race wasn’t on.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pmScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
so we’ll be with Franck until nearly 2am?
We did 24 hours for him at Le Mans, so 10 should be do-able no problem 
September 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pmme said:
so what i’m hearing here, is that it’s perfectly acceptable to start 4.5hrs late?
i’ll keep that in mind for the next show
any idea who’s commentating?
September 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pmSteven Roy said:
I think the later start time is better. It means I will only miss the first couple of hours and then can sit up to 2am with sidepodcast. It’s not like we are not here till 2am on a regular basis. I feel sorry for Christine having to stay up until 4:30 recording the post race show though.
Still good practise for Japan.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pmSteven Roy said:
Maybe we should be like the F1 drivers and run our days on Japan/China time for two weeks
September 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pmChristine said:
I have had to give in and book actual real-life days off for Japan and China. What a light weight.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pmr.g (mini me) said:
since i’ve been ill for the last few days, i dunno if anyone has seen this
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/169670-0/bbc_2009_f1_commentary_team_revealed.html
September 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pmJordan Allen said:
Steven:
NDT (Newfoundland Daylight Time) is not calculated when you are doing world-wide timezone calculations so an event that happens 11:15 am EDT happens at 16:15 BST, or 15:15 Zulu/GMT.
NDT is one separate silly time zone as the Island is split
into two time zones, Atlantic and GMT-3 and as they could not figure out which time zone to use they choce to be 30 minutes ahead of Atlantic time, well, that’s the offical reason,
The unoffical reason, and the source of many jokes by “Mainland” Canucks is that the “Newfies” require an extra 30 minuts to get their brains in gear….
September 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pmScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
Martin’s been denying it, though
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/71018
September 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pmJordan Allen said:
There’s a bunch of polar bears running somewhere in my beack yard, “me”. You are welcome to the female baby one, regardless of how much her parents might object…
Payment? Nah do not bother. At the very least you will provide us and the local Inuits years of admusement and if your lucky, you might end up a native folk story and Another “family ghost” story….
That will work until the cub grows, then they might want to consider a stand-up pool. I would suggest a baby Beaver but it could not help damn up all the plumbing in their house, the sinks, toilots, bathtubs,etc.
I know how about a Black or Grizzy Bear cub? Nikki’s got some in her backyard…
September 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pmSteven Roy said:
Jordan
I am sure when Christine does whatever it was she was going to do with time zones she will do a special Newfoundland time zone.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pmJordan Allen said:
I just to not wish you to get into a ton of flak for making people miss the first 30 minutes of the ALMS race on Saturday. EST is always 5 hours behind (minus) GMT (UK time). A 11:15 EDT start time is equal to 16:15 UK time, not 16:45 UK as you have suggested. So either your math is incorrect or you added an additional 30 minutes to compensate for Newfoundland time, which you are not supposed to do.
EST is GMT - 5 hours, so 12:00 GMT is 7:00 GMT.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pmJordan Allen said:
@Me:
I have sent you three mesasage messages about a female baby polar bear that Christine could get by the messages just disappear into cyperspace. I wonder if they went into your spambox or are you blocking all messages with the words baby polar bear.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:50 pmSteven Roy said:
Jordan,
My first post had everyone sitting in front of their computers for 5 hours before anything happened so they now know I am incompetent when it comes to converting times. If they are now dumb enough to believe me without checking for themselves then it is their fault not mine.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:08 pmme said:
that spam filter’s smarting than i credit it.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pmScott said:
I don’t know about you lot, but I always admire anyone man enough to own up to their own mistakes, not to mention those who show impecable sportsmanship.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30092008/23/montezemolo-brands-night-race-humiliating-f1.html
September 30th, 2008 at 6:29 pmScott said:
The spam filter has just gobbled up my last post.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:51 pmme said:
whatever next?
“This is humiliating for the F1 world and, during the next few weeks, I would like discuss this with all the other teams.”
not half as humiliating as messing up the most important race of the year, in the most spectacular way though, eh?
September 30th, 2008 at 6:59 pmScott said:
I guess mentioning humiliation on an F1 site is dodgey ground, these days.
He seems to be attempting to deflect criticism away from his own team’s performance, but doing so in such a way is just ridiculous. I’m amazed he fails to see that by criticising one of the best races in recent years, he comes across as a bit of a pillock.
September 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pmme said:
if i was him i’d be keeping very quiet right now.
September 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pmme said:
for ollie:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/i-do-have-a-question
(although at the time of commenting, dropio is still prepping the file)
September 30th, 2008 at 8:02 pmFlibster said:
Humiliating for F1?
Oh no.
Humiliating for Ferrari?
Ooooooooh yes!
*Churchill voice*
September 30th, 2008 at 8:28 pmlou said:
polar bears aren’t nearly as cute as pandas
I’ll be around
prob for the beginning but have to do some baby sitting in the evening, will prob be back just after 11.
oh i wish i could do that
i may have frees every Friday afternoon but i still have 3 lessons to concentrate in :s but still, will be worth it.
September 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pmJordan Allen said:
The man that admits to his own mistakes is the man who is obviously single as he does not not have a wife to remind about this mistakes some 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60 years after the events in question have pasted…..
September 30th, 2008 at 8:30 pmScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
just to ask - are you gonna do a seperate post about the Tremayning like you did for the Champaaaaaagne calls?
September 30th, 2008 at 8:37 pmDan Brunell said:
Just my luck, I get up at 5:00 AM for each race when it is in European time and now the race is in Japan when I am in England, I have to STILL get up at 6:00 AM for the race. If I would have stayed here in Seattle, I could have a nice 10:00 PM start. There is no god…
Speaking of start times and all that jazz. If Bernie is such a financial genius, then why does he not push all the races back in time. Especaially the fly-away races which he could time right to make into “prime time” (6-9 PM) for European TV audiences. That would certainly boost ratings, exposure to, commerical revenue, and profile F1 as a prime time event. Especially with races in Canada, Mexico, Brazi and possibly America he could do that rather easily. A noon start in California is a 8:00 PM start in England. Not only that, since the races are limited to two hours anyways, why not push them futher back into the day, say like 3-4 PM European time to get a better North American and European audience?
September 30th, 2008 at 8:43 pmJordan Allen said:
Hey Lady Snowcat and/or Vikki.
How many Chocolate Loonies do you think it is going to take to get the people of Newfoundland to appoint Steven Roy as their unofficial “Newfie” consulor in the UK? *
A guy who can not convert time and yet has internet access has to qualify for “unoffical” Newfie status, right?
* Reference here to a standard “Newfie” joke about how the Candian Dollar Coin was recalled in Newfoundland because Newfies where always trying to get at the chocolate in them….
September 30th, 2008 at 9:03 pmJordan Allen said:
May Bernie should consider his major fan base in Europe while he considers Los Vegas/Palm Springs as the home site for the US Grand Prix. A start time of 13:00 BST/12:00 GMT means that you have to get up at horror of horrors, 5:00 AM local time! Noooo!
The gods truely have a sence of humour when it comes to you Dan…..
September 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pmDan Brunell said:
Thanks Jordan.
Seeing how many retirees are in Palm Springs, of course the race would have to be held at 5:00 am in order to draw a crowd. Plus a mid-day race in Palm Springs and Vegas would be impossibly hot mid-summer.
See, I just don’t get why Bernie is fixated with this 12:00 GMT start time for all races. Could the sport be better served starting races at a later time? I think so.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pmOllie said:
Thanks, you made my evening, again!
September 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pmFlibster said:
Williams have apparently reported a loss of $88 Million in the last couple of years.
Thats gotta hurt.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:52 pmFlibster said:
Evening btw.
Slept off my painkillers and an now enjoying some relaxing time before heading to London.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:17 pmDan Brunell said:
How much is Sir Frank Williams and Patrick Head kicking themselves for declining the BMW deal. If they took the deal, Williams might be in the mix for the championship for the next decade instead of struggling, slowly going bankrupt on the back of the grid. I bet BMW would of given Frank and Patrick enough power to appease them.
Finishing 6th,7th, or 8th in the constructors championship this year cannot help their chances in the future.
October 1st, 2008 at 12:26 amJordan Allen said:
But they did have BMW engines which where the best on the grid and apparnetly the only thing that was awful of the Williams-BMW was the Williams end of the program. Williams accepting the BMW offer would have left Williams Ltds and Frank Williams and Patrick Head in the same position that Peter Sauber and his Sauber Comapny are currently in right now. Nowhere to be seen in F1 circles and we would be complaining about how poor the Sauber-??? is currently doing.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:12 pmme said:
just for kicks. the state of f1 web in 2001:
http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=f1&hl=en
favourite link has to be atlasf1, with this quote:
Rookie Kimi Raikkonen believes he will drive for the Ferrari team once he gets more experience in Formula One racing. “A bit more experience and I’ll get there,” he promises.
spot anything else of note?
October 1st, 2008 at 6:20 pmme said:
oh wait, this is too much fun:
Dennis Looks for Anti-Spying Solutions
you couldn’t make it up. no idea what the article was about though cause it was subscription only.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010712033303/www.atlasf1.com/
October 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pmJordan Allen said:
I noticed below the last link that Williams’ morale improvements measure where not working on a certain Jenson Button, perhaps a change for Button to BAR-Honda would improve Williams performances?
October 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pmme said:
figured the idea might make a decent post:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/10/01/its-just-a-jump-to-the-left-and-then-a-step-to-the-right/
October 1st, 2008 at 11:11 pmDank said:
If any of you are bored and want to fill in a survey that the powers-that-be will read (apparently)… pop along to http://www.ingf1racingmagazinefansurvey.com/
October 1st, 2008 at 11:15 pmme said:
cheers dank
October 1st, 2008 at 11:22 pmme said:
oh balls. it broke at 30% and now:
“processing”
is flashing at me. given my luck with the ing renault site, i guess that’s not surprising. screen grab here:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/ingissues
an unfortunate file name, i’ll grant you
October 1st, 2008 at 11:33 pmme said:
fixed it. filled it in. have entered the competition as:
first name: me
last name: sidepodcast
not sure if that’s admissible?
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:24 amBassano Clapper said:
I wonder if this influenced them in confirming Nakajima for next year. Can anyone say “discount toyota engine deal”?
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:27 amme said:
i could… but that would be mean.
personally i think he’s equally as useless as piquet, but i guess frank / patrick’s hands are tied
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:31 amSteven Roy said:
Williams are not tied to Nakajima. Their Toyota contract entitles them to their pick of Toyota young drivers so they could have had Kobayashi for example
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 amme said:
mmm, that choice must’ve kept frank up for many an evening
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 amBassano Clapper said:
Now that’s mean
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 amme said:
i’m gonna get it in the neck after that comment too. i guess at least piquet’s had a podium this year, so maybe kaz is more useless than him?
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 amJordan Allen said:
Perhaps Frank and Williams learnt their lession form the 1988 season when they told Honda to stuff themselves for dumping either 1987 World Champion Driver Nelson Piquet (Sr.) or Nigel Mansell for a unknown Japanese Driver named Shinji Nakajima (Yes, its Nakajima’s dad.) To sweeten the deal, the team that would pick up Nakajima would get Works Honda engines.
While Williams told Honda to shove it, and lost both Piquet and the Honda Engine, Lotus dumped Ayrton Senna like a ton of bricks to secure a Works engine deal with Piquet and Nakajima.
For 1988, Williams was forced to buy customer Judd engines or not defend their constructors title. Judging that Williams fell 6 places and 117 points in 1998, maybe they should not have bothered with 1988 at all.
Lotus went up from 6th place in 1987 to 4th (tied) in 1988 with Arrows with 23 pojnts. Not surprizing that Piquet scored all of Lotus’ points that year.
Then there was Mclaren. They also had Works Honda engines. They had Prost. They had Senna. And this Williams fan honestly wasted 30 hours of his life watching McLaren repeatly lap the field. I gave up on Williams when Berger became my hero of heros this year of being the only other driver outside of a Mclaren to win a race. in Monza to boot.
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 amJordan Allen said:
Not really. Kaz is currently the third most important person in the entire Williams organization as he begins with him a Toyota Engine Deal that allows Rosberg and himself to score some points for the team.
Without a Engine deal, Williams would be a team composed of useless people from Frank Williams and Patrick Head right down to Nico Rosberg and Kaz Nakajima. Without Kaz, Williams would be running some rebadged 20-year old Judd engines that “me” would be hooking a McLaren ECU to while Christine applies “Panda” stickers to them….
Piquet Jr is just simply useless. The faster Renault get rid of him, the faster they will gain 4th place ahead of Toyota.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 amStuart C said:
Morning all,
Obviously it’s very easy to be cynical about these things but ING are very serious about it – and don’t forget that they spend a lot of money and have Bernie’s telephone number…
It takes about five minutes and you don’t have to give your personal details unless you want to be entered into a prize draw.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
Honda interested in Heidfeld now
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080930201910.shtml
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 amChristine said:
Done.
I’d argue that to do it properly takes at least ten minutes, but it’s always worth having your say.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amSteven Roy said:
Jordan,
Kaz’s dad was Satoru Nakajima not Shinji.
Lotus didn’t drop Senna. He did a deal with McLaren and walked out on the final year of his Lotus contract because McLaren were a better team. Nobody at that time would have signed Piquet ahead of Senna even if he was world champion.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 amJourneyer said:
Singapore video is up on Formula1.com. Interesting song choice, to say the least, but it worked out very well indeed. Nice video from them, as always.
Given how much experience they’re getting at putting together post-race highlights this season, my expectations have gone up for their end-of-season FIA Gala video.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 amAlianora La Canta said:
Why does question 8 have to be a radio-button question? Did they not survey people realise that it’s possible to support a team and a driver equally, or is there some statistical reason why they need to only want one answer per person?
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 amStuart C said:
Hmmm – rumour recycled by GMM from a Swiss/German website that’s infamous for printing rumours as fact…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 amAlianora La Canta said:
The subscription renewal question is awkward. I have a subscription to F1 Racing, but I neither renewed nor initiated it in the last 12 months, because I have a nice simple Direct Debit arrangement dating back to when F1 Magazine collapsed. It’s easy enough to describe in a text box, but when you get a tick box to indicate whether you’ve renewed/initiated it in the last 12 months or not, it’s difficult to know whether to tick it (and lie) or not tick it (and falsely imply that I don’t have a subscription to an F1 magazine).
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 amAlianora La Canta said:
Q12b is frustrating. They’ve assumed that only three things could possibly have made F1 more exciting (regulations promoting more competitiveness, teams improving to the point of challenging Ferrari and McLaren and having more drivers of a similar talent). I don’t think the first two have even happened, and the final one is only true to a very limited extent (the loss of all direct pay-drivers has helped things, but otherwise I haven’t seen any particular change in driver ability this year over last).
I think the improved competitiveness is simply the normal consequence of a major balance-of-power shift - the year or two immediately after one always results in cars getting closer to one another. But there is absolutely no way to express this, so I’ve got to click the driver improvement option, even though I don’t believe it, otherwise I can’t submit the survey
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 amAlianora La Canta said:
Something similar has happened with Q15. Admittedly there are four options, but I don’t agree with any of them (for me the best thing was the photos that came out of it, because night racing made virtually no difference to me apart from that). So once again I’ve had to click something I don’t believe in order to finish the survey.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 amAlianora La Canta said:
Another thing I don’t get - why does ING assume that Singapore was more challenging than other tracks? Some drivers struggled a bit, but it was the same four or five, and most of them sorted their problems with the track out before the race. It was only really Ferrari and possibly Piquet Jr that had problems with the track during the race, and Piquet Jr doesn’t need a challenging track to struggle.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 amAlianora La Canta said:
And after all that, I can’t submit the survey anyway because the drop-down boxes don’t work.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 amStuart C said:
There’s always bound to be the odd thing that doesn’t suit in surveys like these – I found a couple that I wasn’t sure about, too.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amAlianora La Canta said:
I think Nakajima is worth having another season in F1 (at least he does sometimes get good results on merit, which is more than I can say for some). Also, he is the best Toyota Development Driver, and Williams have to run one for political reasons.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 amSteven Roy said:
Ali,
You did renew your subscription even if it is done automatically by your direct debit. I had to say I didn’t have a subscription as I buy every issue from a shop because I move around so much with work. So I have bought practically every issue ever but don’t subscribe giving a totally misleading impression in the survey.
I thought quite a few of the questions did not have the options I wanted. I agree about the challenging circuit/Singapore question. I also wanted one that said KERS and movable aero were stupid ideas and should be thrown out forewith if not sooner.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pmme said:
i wonder if it’s possible to get an entirely preposterous rumour picked up and redistributed by gmm?
something like:
from 2009, mclaren will implement a eurofighter inspired ejector seat to their f1 cars, in order to increase driver safety during a grand prix.
a source close to the team said “there are concerns relating to the tunnel at monaco, but generally we think the increased synergy between f1 and the aviation industry is a great thing.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pmChristine said:
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pmme said:
in that case, there’s something very, very wrong with the TDD program.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmSteven Roy said:
Not to mention the motorway over Singapore. Eject to avoid an accident and land on a motorway.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmSteven Roy said:
Then there are TV helicopters
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pmStuart C said:
Funny you should say that. A bunch of Italian journos (the Gazetta mob) have already had a crack at something like that. They’re furious about a web news ‘agency’ that’s been lifting their work wholesale and syndicating it.
At Monza they put it about that on the Friday night there was going to be a secret ‘night test’. Disappointingly, although the agency ‘bit’ at first, someone further up the food chain twigged that they were being spoofed, so they spiked the story.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 pmSteve T. said:
Came across this F1 purity test (not on the 2001 thing):
http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/~mcraven/EC/racing/formula%20one%20purity%20test.htm
I thought it might be of interest. I think questions 26 to 28 need updating by five years, but not question 3.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pmJordan Allen said:
me said:
Hmmm – rumour recycled by GMM from a Swiss/German website that’s infamous for printing rumours as fact…
i wonder if it’s possible to get an entirely preposterous rumour picked up and redistributed by gmm?
something like:
from 2009, mclaren will implement a eurofighter inspired ejector seat to their f1 cars, in order to increase driver safety during a grand prix.
a source close to the team said “there are concerns relating to the tunnel at monaco, but generally we think the increased synergy between f1 and the aviation industry is a great thing.”
Well, on one hand, bar Monaco, you would think that an ejector seat for a F1 car would be a good thing, but with all the spectator access bridges at every track they should bin this idea right now.
Except that one English race circuit that our hosts love so much where the duckboards are held by duck tape, Silverstone, I think?. A driver strapped in an ejector seat would go right thru the flooring of those bridge like a hot knife thru butter. With more damage done to the bridge, it might even collapse on to the track….
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:41 pmJordan Allen said:
Nelson Piquet rules! (Notice that the “Jr.” is missing….)
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:57 pmScott Woodwiss (better tremayner than the man himself? :P) said:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t4P8FknFwvo
Yeah it’s only a game, but it looks so cool!
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:57 pmme said:
am gonna suggest this to martin whitmarsh as potential friday entertainment.
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:45 pmDank said:
The epitome of bad luck: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71054
October 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 pmme said:
was literally just reading the same thing dank.
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:27 pmDank said:
It’s just unbelievable. He’s been dealt some rubbish cards in his motor racing career!
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 pmSteven Roy said:
That is one racing driver excuse I have never heard.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:01 pmme said:
out of interest. is this an ECU problem? or something that RBR should’ve accounted for?
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:03 pmme said:
i fear for red bull’s KERS development. first the factory catches fire and then their car(s) get confused by a little static.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:10 pmSteven Roy said:
Sounds like it is something specific to their gearbox.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:44 pmJordan Allen said:
It is not surprizing that the biggest pile of bull manure comes from the Bulls in red?
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October 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pmr.g (my fuji, its mini me) said:
its like the news today when a bull slammed into a car, it just doesn’t happen. but apparantly, at times, it does.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 pmFlibster said:
It’s not good is it?
Although I can see many teams not running kers next year. McLaren have said that they were developing 2 cars for next year. 1 kers equipped, the other not.
Actually, has anyone heard anything about McLarens/Mercedes kers system?
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 pmme said:
i wouldn’t be surprised if they had more than two. there are a variety of ways of implementing the solution and i bet they have all of them running already.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pmFlibster said:
If I remember correctly… *which in my currently addled state may not be entirely accurate*
They were developing 2 different race cars for the various tracks and whether the kers system may be and advantage or disadvantage.
I’m still not sure what effect it will have on the packaging at the rear of the car. The 08′09 hybrid that Williams recently ran had the 2009 gearbox and suspension and wing, but not kers… hmmmm.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 pmSteven Roy said:
McLaren certainly mentioned the possibility of running two different cars next season. You can see KERS being a significant advantage somewhere like Canada where you have 4 stops from 200mph to about 70ish. I guess Monaco is the opposite case.
I would guess Williams wanted to make sure the basics of the car was right before they added another variable.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pmme said:
off topic, but have we played this game before?
http://tinyurl.com/williamsf1game
seems familiar, but i don’t remember.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 amSteven Roy said:
That is a new game
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 amlou said:
nope, not that I remember. Tis very fun, although as per usual I’m not very good at it.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 amme said:
i’d put a piccy in dropio, but it seems to have gone a bit wonky.
best time = 01:48:112
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 amSteven Roy said:
Put my second attempt on dropio. Lots of time to come yet
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 amlou said:
hehe have put a pic into drop.io of my best time so far.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 amDom said:
New game! Just done a 1:23.966.
Are we gonna stack up on these for the off-season?
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 amme said:
i think we should.
for some reason i can’t access dropio, but i can already tell i have me work cut out.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:27 amlou said:
wow! that’s a great time! very impressive. the best I have so far is a 1:32:424.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 amme said:
i cannot get anywhere near that
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 amDom said:
oooh, did I guess the podcast lenth right again?
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 amlou said:
i really can’t get any where near dom’s time. He is just too good.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 amme said:
just managed a 1:39.054 and that was driving like i was on rails. where’s he finding the time??
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:48 amme said:
yup. no-one’s pulling ahead as yet.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:52 amlou said:
lol i keep going wide, it’s the the same problem i have with all driving games, braking…. which tbh is a pretty major problem
Maybe it’s cause you’re tired? I’ve been getting a little bit slower as i have been getting more and mroe tired… one last go and i will think about going to sleep.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 amme said:
i need to get my engineers to dial out some of that medium speed under steer i get when i miss an apex. also, i’m not comfortable with the ride height over the grassy bits.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 amDom said:
Where was I finding the time, you mean. Since my best lap I’ve been struggling to push past the 1:40s, no matter what I do. Must be tiring or something…
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 amlou said:
hahaha
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 amlou said:
ok, just did a 1:32:424 which is exactly the same time as i did earlier… it seems to be the best i can do atm, am gonna go to bed i think. Speak to you later. night.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 amme said:
cheers lou.
my best is 1:29.054. i’ll drop it in the morning.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 amJeremy said:
moog valve! No cogs there!
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 amlou said:
ah damn, you beat me… will have to have another go when i get back tonight.
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amAlianora La Canta said:
You did renew your subscription even if it is done automatically by your direct debit. {Steven Roy - 48 comments ago}
Thank you Steven; that would explain a lot. I didn’t know that Direct Debit constituted a renewal, instead assuming that DD payments were set up once and then were assumed to apply until further notice (either because the costs of the subscription had increased or the subscription was no longer wanted). I can now see what you mean by the DD constituting a renewal.
in that case, there’s something very, very wrong with the TDD program. {me - 45 comments ago}
I agree. That said, it looked pretty good two years ago - Kamui, Kobayashi and Nakajima looked to be on the same level as each other and all looked like they would one day be F1 material. Unfortunately, Kamui and Kobayashi’s careers stalled, so TDD are left with one hot shot and two drivers who will probably end up helping Toyota in sportscars or similar instead of the single-seater programme. Until the new batch come through, Nakajima will easily be the best TDD driver.
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 amAlianora La Canta said:
It’s just unbelievable. He’s been dealt some rubbish cards in his motor racing career! {33 comments ago}
The only other time I have heard a tram being blamed for a mishap in an F1 race was in the late 1950s in Oporto, when a driver got the tyres of his car caught in tramlines…
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:34 pmJourneyer said:
Err… hang on. I didn’t know Kamui and Kobayashi were 2 different people now. From what I remember, the guy’s name is Kamui Kobayashi.
Perhaps the other guy you meant was Kohei Hirate.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 pmAlianora La Canta said:
From what I remember, the guy’s name is Kamui Kobayashi.
Perhaps the other guy you meant was Kohei Hirate. {Journeyer - previous comment}
Oops! You are right. These Japanese names can be very confusing at times…