Live Commenting: Bathurst
There seems to be some demand for live commenting the Bathurst event, and we aim to please. Jeremy has been really kind and supplied an introduction to the event, because we know very little. If you’re watching any of the racing, then feel free to use the Live Commenting Live… Thing to it’s best abilities.
Mt Panorama, Bathurst. New South Wales. A few hours drive west of Sydney, this 6. 2 km track with the almost 2 km long ‘Conrod’ straight, is known worldwide. The cars take roughly 6 hours to cover 161 laps. For touring cars, (’V8 Supercars’ in Australia) this is a long race.
As with all forms of racing, there will always be a difference between the top teams, and the rest. Even though V8 Supercars is a parity formula, with the cars resembling their road going counterparts in body shape only, the factory (GM) Holden and Ford teams usually lead the way. The exciting thing is, there are a lot of teams setting times within a few tenths of pole position.
It’s different from when I was a kid in the 70’s and 80’s. The King of the Mountain, the late Peter Brock, won this race 9 times (10 if you count the short lived 24 hour race). In 1979, driving the 05 Holden Torana A9X, he won by 6 laps, setting a new lap record on the last lap! Now, its 5 sprint races all in a row. With most cars getting between 30 and 35 laps out of a tank of fuel, the talk of a four stop race is fantasy. Next year, the series switches to E85 ethanol blend, but not much will change.
So, it all comes down to when you make your last pit stop. Safety cars are a common sight - will there be one anywhere near when most cars are filling up for the last time? The most common phrase from the commentators these days is “buy yourself a position in the final stint”. Its all about being in the top 10 near the end, with a car that is faster than the rest.
Whether that speed difference is because of better tyre management over the weekend, or lower fuel load due to strategy, the drivers, (who have been up since 4:30 in the morning) as usual, will make the difference. Who will make a mistake under pressure?
My money is on Mark Skaife and Garth Tander from the factory Holden team. Both men have won this race, and the year long championship in the past. Wise heads, plenty of talent, red paint on the car. How can they lose? Easy - this is Bathurst!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:47 pmScott Woodwiss said:
Woo! Mount Panorama!
October 11th, 2008 at 11:57 pmScott Woodwiss said:
we need a live internet feed. Motors TV would be preferred
October 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pmme said:
looking around. not much about though.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pmScott Woodwiss said:
I doubt Speed will be showing any coverage either. Hmmm…
October 11th, 2008 at 11:59 pmlou said:
ok so not sure how long i will be able to stay, sleep is kinda important but wht the hell i will be around for a bit i imagine.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:06 amme said:
i know what you’re saying. christine’s already asleep.
i may stay up. i have cheese and wine.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:06 amSteven Roy said:
http://www.tvlizer.com/content/view/194/326/
I can’t get sound
October 12th, 2008 at 12:08 amme said:
ooh, i have sound.
piccy is squished for me though.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:08 amlou said:
oh dear. lol
i should really be getting some sleep as the race is only in 5 and 1/2 hours time, but i will be up at 4:15. :s
October 12th, 2008 at 12:09 amSteveintheUK said:
Hi All
Does the race start at 12.30 UK time? if so Justin.tv may have some channels up just before the start. I really hope they do as Speed.tv is meant to be only showing a one hour highlight program on Sunday, US time.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:13 amScott Woodwiss said:
12:30am yes i think so.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:14 amF1Punter said:
Good preview, I’m almost tempted…
Staying up for qualifying last night wasn’t the wisest move. Enjoy it those who are staying through.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:17 amlou said:
ok am gonna sleep. night all, speak to you in a few hours!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:19 amSteven Roy said:
Good nigt Lou
October 12th, 2008 at 12:25 amSteveintheUK said:
http://www.justin.tv/sportzone4
seems to be showing MotorsTV Live from Bathhurst 1000
October 12th, 2008 at 12:25 amJourneyer said:
Hey guys! My comments got spammed in the Japan Quali thread.
Please use Steve’s link; I found that too earlier.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:25 amScott said:
http://www.justin.tv/sportzone4
October 12th, 2008 at 12:26 amSteven Roy said:
Journeyer posted a video stream link in the quali thread but it went into spam
October 12th, 2008 at 12:28 amme said:
thanks journeyer and thanks steve. now embedded in the main post if you refresh.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:28 amSteveintheUK said:
Cheers Journeyer, hopefully they will be able to keep tohis link u pfor the whole race as there is no Bernie to get the link taken down.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:28 amJourneyer said:
That’s the same link as Steve and Scott’s actually: just an embeddable SWF version instead of the actual page.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:29 amSteven Roy said:
That is a really good feed Scott posted
October 12th, 2008 at 12:29 amme said:
given that motorstv have previously incorrectly identified us as stealing their content. it’s probably a self fufilling prophecy or something
October 12th, 2008 at 12:30 amme said:
how did three people all find exactly the same link at the same time?
i’ve been looking for ages
October 12th, 2008 at 12:31 amme said:
coulthard? he’s a busy chap.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:31 amJourneyer said:
I use a site to look these kinds of things up. And this was the same link from the Montagny lovefest last weekend.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:32 amSteven Roy said:
His cousin Fabien who is a Kiwi
October 12th, 2008 at 12:32 amJourneyer said:
They’re actually related? I thought they just shared the same last name…
October 12th, 2008 at 12:33 amme said:
for real? who knew?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:33 amScott said:
Hopefully the stream won’t suffer too much traffic. It should be OK, as the race is broadcast free-to-air in Australia.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amSteven Roy said:
me
October 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amScott said:
Live timing:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/live_race_engine/races.aspx
October 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amJourneyer said:
This will keep us nice and busy all morning. Will there be Parade Lap this morning?
Yeah, I think we’ll be fine.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amSteveintheUK said:
It had only just popped up on the main Justin.tv sport channel index. I though it would pop up until just before the start, it wasn’t listed they earlier when I looked so don’t feel bad.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:34 amme said:
aside from you, dc and fabien… who knew?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:35 amme said:
cooool. this just gets better.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:35 amme said:
sorry. not a chance
October 12th, 2008 at 12:36 amSteven Roy said:
Pole man stuck on the grid
October 12th, 2008 at 12:36 amJourneyer said:
Tander stalls! Wow. Shocking.
Don’t worry about it.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:38 amJourneyer said:
Did the broadcast just collapse on us right there? Or is it just me?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:38 amScott said:
I also knew of him, as he spent two years in British Formula Renault, including 2003 when Hamilton won the title.
The circuit commentators at BTCC meetings would often mention his relationship to David.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:38 amJourneyer said:
Oops, it’s back now.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:38 amme said:
yup, refreshed an it came back.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:39 amScott said:
Luckily no-one collected him.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:39 amme said:
very good driving off the line.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:40 amme said:
doeshe crash as much?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:40 amJourneyer said:
Yeah, amazing job for the drivers to do that. He’s running now, but way down the order. They’ll also worry about the clutch for his pitstops.
Did they just say he jumped the start too?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:40 amF1Punter said:
10-sec penalty for jumping the start too. Harsh.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:41 amSteven Roy said:
That is harsh
October 12th, 2008 at 12:42 amJourneyer said:
Maybe that’s why he stalled? In an effort to stop jumping, he stalled, but he already jumped it anyway?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:42 amScott said:
No, although he’s even slower. As harsh as this sounds, if it wasn’t for his name, there’s no way he’d have made it as a professsional racing driver.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:42 amSteven Roy said:
I hope Tilke is watching this
October 12th, 2008 at 12:42 amSteveintheUK said:
If you play it in a popout window and close the main Justin.tv page it seems to play a lot smoother. Guess the Justin.tv chat is slowing it down.
Theres a popout button bottom right just under the video window.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:43 amF1Punter said:
The stewards are a bitter quicker than F1 though!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:43 amF1Punter said:
Through his fingers I hope.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:43 amSteveintheUK said:
Now thats just mean of the organizers to do that, but he does have 1000km to catch up
October 12th, 2008 at 12:44 amJourneyer said:
Isn’t it embedded on our page now? Just refresh.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:44 amme said:
ha! how very true.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:45 amSteven Roy said:
The popout is stretchable. Just grab the bottom right corner and get the screen size you want
October 12th, 2008 at 12:45 amScott said:
Absolutely, given that there is very little space, and the guys near the back were already travelling pretty quickly by the time they’d got to him.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:46 amJourneyer said:
Wasn’t James Courtney doing F1 tests already before? At the start of the decade, I think. Why didn’t he end up getting a race seat?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:47 amSteven Roy said:
He is/was on the Honda young driver prog
October 12th, 2008 at 12:47 amF1Punter said:
Through his fingers I hope.
Looking at him on wiki - injuries from a crash while test driver for Jaguar F1?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:48 amJourneyer said:
Probably ‘was’. I believe this is his 2nd year in V8s already.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:49 amJourneyer said:
Hmmm… interesting. Didn’t hear about that before. I’ll look it up. Thank you!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:49 amSteven Roy said:
I am thinking of James Rossiter
October 12th, 2008 at 12:50 amJourneyer said:
Oops. hehe. F1Punter already said Jaguar though.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:51 amJourneyer said:
‘Geometry drama’ - Whoever thought you could use that as a proper phrase? Hahaha!
October 12th, 2008 at 12:53 amme said:
dumb question from a newbie. didn’t someone say the cars went through the mountain?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:54 amSteven Roy said:
They don’t go through a tunnel but there is a mountain section
October 12th, 2008 at 12:54 amJourneyer said:
through the mountain? You mean right through it? Not sure. But I don’t think so! Hehehe. Then again, this is only my 2nd year to watch this.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:55 amF1Punter said:
I bet that chopper pilot is having some fun too.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:55 amme said:
i see. must’ve misheard / read that.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:55 amSteven Roy said:
If you look a the live car tracker on the live timing the squiggly bit of track on the right is the mountain
October 12th, 2008 at 12:56 amme said:
live timing seems to be having issues for me.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:57 amJourneyer said:
Yup, I can see it. Not a particularly remarkable layout to look at, but it’s the elevation changes that make it that much more interesting.
It works for me.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:58 amSteven Roy said:
I am not getting times. Only the race order. The tracker is out of sync with the video which helsp confuse me
October 12th, 2008 at 12:58 amme said:
seems to be a familiar motorsport problem
when it works, the tracker supurb though. putting f1 to shame on that score.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:00 amF1Punter said:
Right, power nap. I’ll be back for the F1. Enjoy this guys.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:00 amJourneyer said:
That would be the video’s fault then, not the tracker.
Good night F1Punter!
October 12th, 2008 at 1:00 amSteven Roy said:
They do all sorts of things that put F1 to shame. Later in the race the TV commentators will be connected to the drivers while they are driving so they can ask them questions
October 12th, 2008 at 1:01 amSteven Roy said:
See you later F1 Punter
October 12th, 2008 at 1:01 amme said:
cheers
October 12th, 2008 at 1:01 amme said:
cool. am loving the technical explantions too.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:02 amJourneyer said:
I doubt F1 will ever do this - I don’t see a need for it. The drivers are already struggling enough to talk to their engineers, what more the press?
But I agree that they should let us use the tracker - the pitwall boys already have it anyway.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:04 amScott said:
There was some fantastic insight during the race build-up - even right down to the specific chemicals they use in order to make the drivers’ seat inserts!
October 12th, 2008 at 1:04 amme said:
ooh, live timing just woke up.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:05 amSteven Roy said:
Driving an F1 car takes a lot more effort because of the performance. That sort of thing is much easier to do in a national championship rather than international where diffeent languages have to be considered
October 12th, 2008 at 1:05 amSteven Roy said:
Why are the ads in French?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:06 amJourneyer said:
Good points, all.
I’m officially struggling with the feed. How about you guys?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:06 amme said:
assuming it’s motors france?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:06 amJourneyer said:
because Motors TV is a French/British channel? Just a guess. Hehehe.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:07 amme said:
intermittent.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:08 amJourneyer said:
Fair enough. Just the 3 of us left, huh?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:08 amSteven Roy said:
Really good when it runs but cuts out every now and then. Since the ads it has been bad
October 12th, 2008 at 1:08 amSteveintheUK said:
Maybe the guy that is streaming this on to Justin.tv is doing it from France? The feeb does keep going really bad though
October 12th, 2008 at 1:09 amScott said:
Yeah, that’s correct. They’re based in Paris.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:09 amJourneyer said:
Agreed - it’s been awful the last 10 minutes or so.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:10 amSteven Roy said:
That’s an early stop. Must be a problem
October 12th, 2008 at 1:10 amSteven Roy said:
Routine stops are every 30ish laps
October 12th, 2008 at 1:11 amghostlaird said:
Any chance of getting the commentators to shut up for 1 lap inside a car??
Don’t want to know about last year’s tyre’s etc.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:12 amme said:
james allen syndrome
October 12th, 2008 at 1:12 amSteven Roy said:
Driver change on lap 16?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:12 amme said:
how many drivers? 2?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:13 amScott said:
That’s possible. Motors TV is actually available in English, French and German, although neither Sky Digital nor Virgin Media in the UK offer a choice of languages.
It is technically possible for them to do this, though. Both platforms offer Euronews, for example, in a number of different languages.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:17 amme said:
giovanardi is driving?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:17 amScott said:
The TV coverage really is first class. I’m impressed with the effort that Channel 7 have gone to for international broadcasters; even making commentary available whilst they’re on a break. Compare that to Speed in the US - they don’t even bother to lower their faders so you can hear distracting background chatter during their (numerous) advert breaks.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:17 amme said:
and matt neil?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:19 amJourneyer said:
Yup!
Very much agreed, Scott. I believe ITV-F1 also provide commentary while they’re on a break in the UK for international broadcasters.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:20 amSteveintheUK said:
Re those the only two BTCC drivers taking part this year? don’t normally about half a dozen or so of them race there?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:20 amJourneyer said:
Be right back with you, guys.
Just have some stuff to attend to before F1.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:20 amScott said:
Yeah, it’s just a one off. The weird thing is that he’s driving a Ford, and not a Holden (GM).
In previous years European drivers have been even more numerous. They tend to struggle, though, as the V8 Supercars are much more powerful than the 2 litre machinery they’re used to.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:21 amSteven Roy said:
We have watched a South African stream of the ITV feed with no ads and the commentary goes straight throuugh the breaks. Then you get 30 seconds silence as they explain to the UK what we missed during the break
October 12th, 2008 at 1:22 amSteven Roy said:
Some years you get one or two. At other times half the grid turns up
October 12th, 2008 at 1:22 amme said:
i see. didn’t expect to see a name i recognised.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:28 amSteven Roy said:
I am surprised how little on board we are getting. CAMS (the Aus motor sport federation) led the world in on board cameras. They were the first people to do panning cameras etc
October 12th, 2008 at 1:29 amSteven Roy said:
The first time I posted my last comment i got a pop up saying there was a problem posting it. Please post again. I hit F5 and everything is fine now.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:29 amme said:
ahh, the ones nascar now use?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:30 amme said:
that’s quite good news. in the past the browser would have locked up.
hope the server’s okay though.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:30 amme said:
wait. you still had to press f5? bugger, that’s not good
October 12th, 2008 at 1:30 amSteven Roy said:
Yes the aussies invented all of those
October 12th, 2008 at 1:31 amSteven Roy said:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/v8data/2008/evnt_256/drventry.asp?ssn=2008&eid=256&ind=M
Full entry list. There seem to be only three non Aus/NZ drivers on a quick scan. Neil, Giovanardi and Max Wilson
October 12th, 2008 at 1:32 amSteven Roy said:
Just spotted Boris Said is also on the list
October 12th, 2008 at 1:32 amSteven Roy said:
& Marc Hynes.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:36 amScott said:
Here’s a list of drivers well known outside Australia who are taking part:
Max Wilson (F1 - Williams)
James Courtney (F1 - Jaguar)
Marcus Marshall (Champ Car - Team Australia)
Matt Halliday (Champ Car - Conquest Racing)
Marc Hynes (Beat Jenson Button to the British F3 championship)
Craig Baird (BTCC - Ford)
Fabrizio Giovanardi (BTCC - Vauxhall)
Matt Neil (BTCC - various)
Boris Said (NASCAR/sportscars - various)
October 12th, 2008 at 1:38 amSteven Roy said:
I would love to know how Max Wilson and Boris Said ended up in an Australian saloon car race
October 12th, 2008 at 1:45 amme said:
you might have to explain that one to me. who are they and why’s it significant?
October 12th, 2008 at 1:46 amme said:
slightly less technical fuel hoses than f1.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:46 amFelipe Leite said:
As I recall, Max Wilson was a Williams test driver and was on the verge to enter F1 with a new team that never came to run. Then he went to japanese F3000 or something like that. He raced ther for some years and for the last 3 (?) years he’s been racing at australian v8. But this is his last season there, he is coming back to Brazil to run with brazilian stock car V8 in 2009.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:47 amme said:
ahh, cheers. what year was he a williams tester? the names not familiar.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:47 amSteven Roy said:
October 12th, 2008 at 1:48 amme said:
gotya. ta.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:48 amSteven Roy said:
Thanks Felipe. I have not heard his name for a few years and had no idea he was in Aus.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:49 amScott said:
Wilson has been a regular in the series for a number of years. But like you said, it doesn’t attract that many international drivers. The reason is that driving means moving to Australia, and being largely forgotten by Europe and North America.
This isn’t really an issue for talented Aussies like Craig Lowndes, Russel Ingall, Will Davison, etc. who didn’t have enough money to complete proper careers in junior single-seater formulae. For them, they’re living at home, earning good money, and competing in one of the biggest sports in Australia.
Even for young drivers who end up racing GTs in Europe, there’s always the faint hope that they could emulate Mark Webber and use sportscar racing as a step on the ladder to Formula One.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:49 amFelipe Leite said:
I’m not sure, but I think it was back in the late 90’s. I’ll check this.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:52 amme said:
mmm, that makes sense.
i am super impressed by everyone’s knowledge of supercars today btw. this is all news to me.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:53 amSteven Roy said:
October 12th, 2008 at 1:53 amFelipe Leite said:
At the end of 1999, Wilson was offered a drive with the ailing Minardi team but a lack of financial backing saw him lose the ride at the last minute to a less experienced but more financially solvent driver. But all was not lost, after an impressive stint at Williams, Wilson spent 2000 as an F1 test driver for Michelin as the tyre manufacturer prepared to re-enter Formula One competition. (from wikipedia)
Also, he didn’t go to japanese F3000, he went to Champ Car series in 2001 and since 2002 he is competing in australian V8.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:54 amSteven Roy said:
He has been in Aus since 2002
October 12th, 2008 at 1:55 amFelipe Leite said:
All I know is that it is one of the best touring cars leagues aroud the world, like DTM, WTCC and stuff like that. And that Max Wilson competes there
October 12th, 2008 at 1:56 amme said:
October 12th, 2008 at 1:58 amSteven Roy said:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/circuits/circuitmap_lge.asp?img=/v8data/crct/crct_128.jpg&nme=Supercheap+Auto+Bathurst+1000%2C+Mount+Panorama%2C+Bathurst%2C+New+South+Wales
Found a good circuit map with corner names etc
October 12th, 2008 at 1:59 amme said:
hell corner??
October 12th, 2008 at 2:00 amFelipe Leite said:
Just a little more research and guess who was the “less experienced but more financially solvent driver” that got Max Wilson’s place at Minardi in 1999: Marc Gené.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:00 amSteven Roy said:
A bit better than Turn 1
October 12th, 2008 at 2:00 amScott said:
It’s a great series. A mate and I used to follow it very closely indeed. The organisers don’t have plans for massive international expansion, though. It’d be pointless really as the Falcon and Commodore are only sold in a very limited number of markets. There is a race a Bahrain, as the circuit was prepared to open its cheque book.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:01 amSteven Roy said:
Spinner
October 12th, 2008 at 2:01 amme said:
ahh, ok.a bit of money goes a long way!
October 12th, 2008 at 2:01 amFelipe Leite said:
well, now I’m going to watch a movie before the F1 race. See you later folks!
October 12th, 2008 at 2:02 amme said:
cheers felipe. we’ll be here.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:02 amSteven Roy said:
See you later Felipe
October 12th, 2008 at 2:03 amme said:
so all the races are in australia except for one?
jet lag must be an arse
October 12th, 2008 at 2:03 amScott said:
On the topic of Max Wilson, it’s worth baring in mind that he’s one of the few foreign drivers who’s been able to adapt and run competitively in the series. After his first couple of seasons, it really did look like he had the potential to become a real front-runner, but he hasn’t made as much progress as was originally expected.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:04 amScott said:
Bye Felipe.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:05 amSteven Roy said:
A bit like his single-seater career then. Potnetial is there but he never really delivered
October 12th, 2008 at 2:06 amSkippy said:
Does anybody know where we can find Lap times on the web.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:08 amSteven Roy said:
The only timing we have is at http://www.v8supercars.com.au/live_race_engine/races.aspx but it is not exactly detailed
October 12th, 2008 at 2:08 amSkippy said:
Kangaroo on the track
October 12th, 2008 at 2:08 amScott said:
There’s also one race in Hamilton, New Zealand. It’s a street circuit.
The New Zealand round used to be held at Pukekohe, which is a track I love. It is a little antiquated, and some say dangerous. Tilke would torch the place.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:09 amScott said:
‘Roo on-track!
October 12th, 2008 at 2:09 amSkippy said:
thanks Steven.. Got that too…
October 12th, 2008 at 2:09 amme said:
i found it better if you pop it out and stretch it wide.
but not found full laptimes as yet.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:09 amme said:
hehehe.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:09 amme said:
what? coool.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:11 amScott said:
Completely agree. Sure, he had Petronas backing, but it should be remembered that he had a great debut season in F3000, which won him the support. It’s just he wasn’t able to make the most of it.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:11 amSteven Roy said:
There is a vid on youtube of one that nearly got splattered last year or the year before
October 12th, 2008 at 2:12 amSteven Roy said:
Is Pukekohe still in existence? I have only ever heard of it in relation to the Tasman series in the 60s and it wasn’t one of the more advanced tracks then
October 12th, 2008 at 2:13 amSkippy said:
Question.. Who punched Paul Morris in the head years ago….? I think Rusty may be the next one to punch him in the head if he keeps driving like that.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:16 amScott said:
Yeah, the New Zealand V8 Championship still races there.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:17 amSteven Roy said:
October 12th, 2008 at 2:17 amme said:
how the chuff are they doing the live techincal demonstrations?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:17 amme said:
cheers steven.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:18 amSkippy said:
Found it!!!!
Tony Longhurst
October 12th, 2008 at 2:18 amScott said:
Bye for now, Steven.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:19 amme said:
big punch up?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:22 amSkippy said:
Nah Just one punch through the window.. Right to the side of the head
October 12th, 2008 at 2:22 amScott said:
Not really. Have found it on YouTube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RhdtDfEOxjg
October 12th, 2008 at 2:23 amme said:
what heck did he do?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:25 amScott said:
I’ve posted a link to the YouTube video, but it’s disappeared.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:26 amme said:
ahh, cheers.
i looks dark there, this race runs into the night? (apologies for the dumb question, am on japanese time).
October 12th, 2008 at 2:27 amme said:
they were teammates?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:31 amJohn said:
Should car 1 have been permited to do their 10 second penalty in with their pit stop, I was always under the impression that the penalty had to be served seperately, an interesting thing how they are blaming the clutch on this car for the poor start but when you look at the replay you can clearly see he stalled it because he had to restart the car, it is obvious that the anouncer is a Holden fan, Personally I don’t care what brand wins but don’t they pander to the Holden teams in a big way.
C’ya, John
October 12th, 2008 at 2:31 amSteveintheUK said:
The races started at 10.30am Aus time and should be finished around 5.00 - 5.30pm, or at least thats when the coverage is due to end.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:33 amScott said:
It would appear that they were.
I can’t imaging how Ron would’ve reacted if it’d been those two driving for McLaren at Hungary, last year.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:34 amme said:
cheers john. saw the restart button being pressed, i guess a 10 second penalty seems harsh when you’ve just gone from hero to zero in under 10 seconds.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:35 amme said:
heheh. aaah, that would’ve been spectacular.
fyi, just as a distraction:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/3179021/How-the-Ecclestone-Affair-unfolded.html
October 12th, 2008 at 2:35 amme said:
cheers steve. looked darker than that in the youtube vid.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:38 amme said:
compulsory brake pad change?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:39 amScott said:
They like sticking to their rules, which can be a good thing, providing they’re good rules.
A few years ago (I don’t know whether this is still the case) they had exact requirements in terms of how far alongside a driver would have to be when overtaking. When incidents occurred, if the driver doing the overtaking was judged by the stewards not to be sufficiently alongside, he’d be punnished. Otherwise, it’d be the driver who was being overtaken receiving the penalty.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:40 amme said:
agreed.
that seems a bit excessive mind you.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:43 amScott said:
Yeah, this is a rule for the two enduro races. It’s sensible in my opinion, as it stops teams taking crazy risks.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:43 amme said:
yikes, that tyre is in a state.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:44 amme said:
so why is rubber such a big issue today then? have the cars developed faster this year are something?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:45 amScott said:
It probably worked well seven times out of ten, but of course, you can’t always treat assigning blame in an accident as some sort of scientific process. Sometimes, a little flexibility is required.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:46 amJohn said:
Oh oh Murphy is crying again, you can see at the start where Lownds comes off the grass and it is a racing incident but Murphy doesn’t think it is, man he needs some serious glasses when watching the reply he says he has and he is a Kiwi as I am but what a whinger he is and to think I told a mate earlier today I hoped he would win but I’m afraid he is not a sports mans back side, It would be nice to see 888 win it but Skaiff and co get all sorts of dispensations like the 10 second penalty which should have been a stop and not included in the pit stop, I have seen where in the past other drivers have had to go out and then come back in to do the penalty, since when did the change the rule………….Oh when it happened to Scaiff, hey they tried to jump the start lets see the penalty applied as in the past, keep it consistant.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:47 amScott said:
I’ve no idea, really. As with NASCAR, the organisers heavily restrict car development, so I don’t think that is the cause.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:48 amme said:
seems like a very reasonable request john.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:51 amme said:
am liking the tv gear selection graphics. am going to take a screenshot and mail to to bernie.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:56 amScott said:
Or even record the whole programme, and send it to the BBC, and tell them that this is what we want our Formula One coverage to be like, next year.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:58 amme said:
hahah. v. true indeed. it is a fine example of motorsport broadcasting.
imagine getting used to this and then tuning into an f1 race. must be such a dissapointment.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:59 amJohn said:
They had the Dunlop engineer on a little while ago and it aperars that the cars are cutting the tyres on the inside of the curb at Caltex chase due to a sharp edge on the curb there, It looks like the Stone Brothers car has broken a rear sway bar, very frustrating for the team.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:01 amhumey said:
who will win all this on channel 7 2nite at 6
October 12th, 2008 at 3:01 amme said:
ahh, thank you john. is this a single tyre series (aplogies for being clueless).
October 12th, 2008 at 3:01 amme said:
channel 7, humey?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:02 amScott said:
Absolutely. It must be very hard for the Aussies to view Formula One as the world’s premier motorsport championship, when the TV coverage is so second rate.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:03 amSteveintheUK said:
Isn’t that what we are about to do in about 2.5 hours time? Suddenlly I’m not looking forward to watching F1.
Shame this race will not have finished by the time ITV live feed is due to start though
October 12th, 2008 at 3:04 amScott said:
Yeah, everyone runs Dunlops.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:05 amJourneyer said:
Didn’t Bernie’s F1Digital use to have all this and more? With the gear selection bit, multiple on-boards and what not?
But it was too early back then. Bernie’s hesitant now because he doesn’t want to get bitten twice. But I believe we’ll have some form of it again for 2009.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:06 amme said:
will we be able to catch the end post-f1? or will it be done by then?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:06 amme said:
thanks you
October 12th, 2008 at 3:06 amme said:
here’s hoping. the car tracker is a godsend.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:07 amScott said:
In the past I’ve prioritised Bathurst, and recorded the F1 race. I think I’ll watch the Grand Prix this time though, although will switch back over if things become boring.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:08 amRocket said:
Wow. Bathurst on Sidepodcast! You do us proud! Oh and me…Dou you actually sleep? Or just live motorsport?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:10 amme said:
ha. this ones nothing to do with me, jeremy is the man today
sleep is optional right now. of note, “inside track - fuji” was delayed cause we spent the weekend following franck. methinks the china preview might run late this week too
October 12th, 2008 at 3:10 amSteveintheUK said:
If they don’t have any safety cars its going to be close, but if they do and Hamilton flys round the track in F1 we may catch the end of both races….. I think, its a bit late at night to be doing maths though, sorry
October 12th, 2008 at 3:11 amme said:
if you do, and fancy keeping this thread up to date, i will certainly check back post race.
happy to leave the video embeded for the duration.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:11 amJourneyer said:
I think it ends at 11 AM UK time. The GP will end at around 10-1015, so we should be able to catch the end. Keep the article (and the embedded feed) up during the GP.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:11 amScott said:
On their current pace, both races will probably finish around the same time. That could change though if there’s a couple of long safety car periods.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:12 amme said:
tis ok. isn’t this race meant to be prone to the SC? seems very clean thus far.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:13 amme said:
quick shout out to anyone who’s watching the stream but not commenting. please do say “hi” and tell us where you’re watching, who you’re supporting.
tis always good to know who’s checkin in.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:14 amScott said:
Sure. I could attempt to follow both races at the same time.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:15 amRichard said:
What happened to mark skaif
October 12th, 2008 at 3:15 amme said:
now that would just be showing off
October 12th, 2008 at 3:16 amJason said:
hi, im in china, watching the stream - fantastic, thought that i would miss it
October 12th, 2008 at 3:18 amScott said:
Absolutely. I like the way that many Aussie fans tend to support one manufacturer, or the other, rather than a particular driver. It’s strange that Bernie doesn’t make more of an effort to market F1 like this, as it’d largely prevent things like the decline of interest we’ve seen in Germany.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:18 amRichard said:
Why is Mark in 17 position what happened?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:18 amRocket said:
Thanks to Jeremy. Nonetheless, you are an avid spectator.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:18 amme said:
hey jason. glad you’re enjoying it.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:18 amSkippy said:
Quick Vote… Who would like to see Glen Seton win Bathurst Race after 25 trips to the Mountain?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:19 amme said:
i think… and pls keep in mind i have no idea what i’m talking about… he jumped the start and stalled it.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:19 amSteveintheUK said:
I knew there was a good reason why I upgrade to 10mb broadband last week, good job I have to spare PCs to use for video streaming, don’t think I’ll be making many comments though.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:20 amme said:
you could be onto something there. am keeping a list
October 12th, 2008 at 3:20 amScott said:
Or maybe Christine could follow both races for us. Aren’t women supposed to be vastly superior when it comes to multitasking?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:20 amme said:
that is true. i didn’t think i’d enjoy alms, but just couldn’t stop watching that either.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:20 amRichard said:
October 12th, 2008 at 3:21 amme said:
25 blinking times? 25,000kilometres. man, if anyone deserves it.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 amme said:
a worthwhile purchase, glad it’s working out.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 amRichard said:
Gosford Missed the first couple of hours,what happened to Mark Skaiff
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 amme said:
hehe, i raise the concept with her when she wakes up.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:22 amJohn said:
I’ve been around the track a few times and when you come off the top you didn’t used to be able to see much but now it is a lot better, did you guys see the practise crash from Friday, they managed to rebuild the Team Kiwi car but it is now out, a bit of trivia for you are you awear this is the track that Dennis Hume died at in the days when they had an all in race, he was driving a BMW that day, Oh oh the safety car has just gone out for the first time, that should close things up a bit, now you should see some action, the Jack Daniels car had an off at the chase.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:23 amScott said:
Yeah, it was Tander who took the start, but he stalled, and jumped the start in the process.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:23 amme said:
he’s the pole sitter correct?
he went to soon. commentators said clutch, john says driver error.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:24 amSkippy said:
Yes 1992… Same year as the rain stopped the race.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:24 amRichard said:
Bloody idiot.Had $100 on him winnig
October 12th, 2008 at 3:25 amme said:
October 12th, 2008 at 3:26 amRichard said:
Thats it,Iv still got a chance,forgot about the safety car
October 12th, 2008 at 3:27 amRocket said:
From memory didn’t Skaife bog down off the start last year…or the year before?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:28 amJohn said:
Pure and simple drive error, don’t believe the clutch thing, if it had have been a clutch it would not have come back as quick as it did, in the coverage you can see he jumps pumps the brake and stalls, hehehe I have done it myself in the past, but in those days you could get away with more, he is lucky he never got punted by a back marker
October 12th, 2008 at 3:29 amme said:
damn even the marshalls are efficient.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:30 amme said:
did the commentator just say “david coulthard”?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:30 amRichard said:
It’s ok now,he’s back in 6th spot.thanks to the saftey car
October 12th, 2008 at 3:31 amme said:
is he alan mcnish?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:31 amSkippy said:
What happens when you hit a saftey Car?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:31 amSkippy said:
James Courtney Gave one a hurry up in the pit lane
October 12th, 2008 at 3:32 amRichard said:
Someone should give it a go
October 12th, 2008 at 3:33 amRichard said:
May
October 12th, 2008 at 3:33 amSkippy said:
James Courtney Just did.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:33 amRichard said:
Maybe theres a spare safety car
October 12th, 2008 at 3:36 amme said:
that happen a lot??
October 12th, 2008 at 3:36 amRocket said:
I think it’s Fabian Coulthard…I believe he’s a cousin…or I might just be making that up.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:38 amme said:
you’re correct. just thought the commentator dropped a clanger.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:38 amSkippy said:
Shouldn’t Happen at all. I have never seen anyone give a safety car a nudge.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:39 amme said:
the commentors just said “he may have been within his rights [to hit the SC]” - are they nuts?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:39 amDave Monks said:
Sorry that I’ve just joined - I had to come in to work. Is the live feed showing the leaders at the moment? I.e. the enforcer is P1?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:40 amRocket said:
Ah, should’ve known you were on top of that.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:41 amme said:
learning as i go here
October 12th, 2008 at 3:41 amScott said:
Nah, Ingall’s in 3rd. The race is being lead by Lowndes/Whincup.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:42 amDave Monks said:
Awesome. Thanks. Is there a live timing site that I can accesss without signing up for there spam? I see the official site is signups only.
Or is the sign up worth it?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:43 amDave Monks said:
*their spam*
October 12th, 2008 at 3:43 amRichard said:
Comon holden,the feeds about a minute behind
October 12th, 2008 at 3:43 amme said:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/live_race_engine/races.aspx
no signup needed.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:43 amSteveintheUK said:
Or your starting to hear things ‘me’, lack of sleep does that to you.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:44 amme said:
and wine.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:44 amPeter said:
October 12th, 2008 at 3:44 amPeter said:
Can somebody please tell me what the cps lights colours mean??
October 12th, 2008 at 3:45 amDave Monks said:
Thank you very much. Any chance you and Christine will put together a Bathurst special? Since Christine has pretty much been on holiday all week…
October 12th, 2008 at 3:45 amScott said:
You have to be a BigPond customer, but if you goto the official site and select live timing, it’ll allow you to access basic details without signing up. There’s a tracker which shows the drivers’ positions on the circuit, which is pretty neat.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:46 amSteveintheUK said:
I guess if the safety car is going to slow and the race drivers are worried about losing to much heat from they tyres then want else if the race driver to do? Isn’t that why those cars have bumpers?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:46 amme said:
hahahahaha. ouch, and no
October 12th, 2008 at 3:46 amme said:
erm, cps?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:46 amRichard said:
And abuot 55 beeers
October 12th, 2008 at 3:47 amme said:
i see. umm, crashing into the safety car doesn’t strike me as being very safe.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:48 amScott said:
You’re a braver man than me, mate. I’m not risking alcohol at 4am, otherwise I might not make it through until the end.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:49 amPeter said:
complusory pit stop lights on the dash that u can see thru the windscreen? They yellow green and red????
October 12th, 2008 at 3:49 amRichard said:
Try coke then
October 12th, 2008 at 3:49 amDave Monks said:
The lights tell which of the 2 drivers is in the car at the moment. I think Green is the lead driver, orange is the 2nd.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:49 amme said:
complete news to me. we’ve not seen a lot of in car action, thus far. i’ll google it.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:51 amme said:
ahh cool. thank you dave.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:56 amDave Monks said:
me, is Christine a midlands girl? My girlfriend is from Gloucester and thinks that her accent is familiar. I’m from New Zealand and think you’ll sound the same…
October 12th, 2008 at 3:57 amScott said:
I’m OK at the moment, but if I start to snooze, will start guzzeling coffee.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:57 amStuart C said:
I feel some sympathy with that position. Was led astray (again) by J Noble last night. Bob C was with us and we ended up ringing a colleague in the UK to champaaaaaaaaaaagne down the phone at him (while he was watching the football).
In other news, David T was modelling a more optimistic shade than usual yesterday – a light grey t-shirt. But normal service has been restored and he’s back in black.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:58 amme said:
yup, from somewhere around there. i think we all sound the same too
October 12th, 2008 at 3:59 amme said:
you’re so easily led!
i wish you’d have rung us
October 12th, 2008 at 3:59 amScott said:
Hahaha… that was hillarious. No way they’d get away with that on ITV.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:59 amme said:
he washed it too many times, didn’t he?
October 12th, 2008 at 4:00 amSkippy said:
Saftey Car…
October 12th, 2008 at 4:00 amDom said:
Hey guys.
Woke slighty early (you know, for that race in Japan) but i’m here now and for the next 5 hours, i guess.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:01 amme said:
the live thread for the f1 fuji race is about to go live on this site.
if for any reason you need to refresh the live commenting page, and are looking to get back to this thread, don’t forget to select the correct post from the dropdown at the top. it sounds obvious, but it’s early and i’m easily confused.
am planning to keep checking the bathurst feed as much as i can, cause this is great
October 12th, 2008 at 4:01 amme said:
gooood morning dom.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:01 amDave Monks said:
Alright, thanks a bunch. I have to go back to work. I hope to get back to the race in a little bit.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:02 amme said:
thanks dave. we’ll be here there and everywhere.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:03 amScott said:
Indeed. This has been a great turnout, especially considering you didn’t promote Bathurst live commenting at all.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:04 amStuart C said:
Imagine the reaction when it came out of the washing machine…
[Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!]
October 12th, 2008 at 4:05 amJourneyer said:
Stuart, you had too much to drink last night. Hahahahaha!
October 12th, 2008 at 4:06 amFelipe Leite said:
ANd you said we weren’t going to have a parade lap today…
October 12th, 2008 at 4:06 amme said:
ahhh shucks, it’s too early to be laughing like that
October 12th, 2008 at 4:06 amSkippy said:
Saftey Car Again
October 12th, 2008 at 4:07 amScott said:
Safety car on standby as car #9 is in the gravel.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:07 amme said:
true. one of the team is still asleep though…
October 12th, 2008 at 4:10 amScott said:
All these safety car periods are good news for those wanting to catch the end of the race after the Grand Prix.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:11 amme said:
wonderful stuff.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:18 amScott said:
So Lowndes is now down in 16th after his stop. Great opportunity for Davison to pull out a lead.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:21 amScott said:
It looks like it’s all down to the tyres for Lowndes then. With only one more stop to make he’s in a great postition, as long as the wear isn’t too bad.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:22 amScott said:
The top 3 are all nose-to-tail now.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:23 amme said:
damn, having feed troubles now.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:25 amScott said:
Don’t either of the feeds work?
Max Wilson’s (in 3rd) is great to watch right now. He’s sliding all over the place.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:28 amScott said:
The Skaife fans won’t be happy. Off-camera he’s just dropped from 4th to 8th. No idea what went on.
October 12th, 2008 at 4:29 amSkippy said:
I am Loving That
October 12th, 2008 at 4:29 amScott said:
Great move down the inside. Murphy takes the lead and now Davison