F1 Digest - Brazil Preview

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This is it, the big 2008 season showdown between Ferrari and McLaren. It’s all to play for, so F1 Digest is here to preview the event and catch up with how all the teams are preparing for the final race of the year.

Vital Statistics

  • Date: 2nd November
  • Circuit: Interlagos
  • Length: 4.3km
  • Laps: 71
  • 2007 Winner: Kimi Raikkonen

Preview

We’ve got three drivers gearing up for their home race, and all wanting to do well. Only two drivers are battling for the championship, but many others want to consolidate their positions or rise up if they can. Plus, David Coulthard and Sebastian Vettel will both be racing for the last time in their teams.

What others have said...

159 Responses

  1. October 29th, 2008 at 22:45me said:

    the last preview of the year? awww.

    but this seemed like only yesterday:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/03/13/f1-digest-australia-preview/

  2. October 29th, 2008 at 22:52R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    but this seemed like only yesterday:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/03/13/f1-digest-australia-preview/

    To be fair, I wasn’t there yesterday.

  3. October 29th, 2008 at 22:59Dom said:

    but this seemed like only yesterday

    It actually does! How far we’ve come since then…

  4. October 29th, 2008 at 23:00Christine said:

    but this seemed like only yesterday:

    Really? It seems like years ago to me. So much amazing stuff has happened, both on track and on Sidepodcast :)

  5. October 29th, 2008 at 23:01Dom said:

    Special livery for DC?

  6. October 29th, 2008 at 23:16me said:

    Really? It seems like years ago to me. So much amazing stuff has happened, both on track and on Sidepodcast

    just seems to have gone so quickly. felt like things were ticking along nicely until about silverstone, after which every fia press release was a controversial one, and it’s been non-stop ever since.

    Special livery for DC?

    oooh, nice.

  7. October 29th, 2008 at 23:22Alex Andronov said:

    It’s the classic mix of fast and slow as far as I can tell. If I look back I think “gosh where has the year gone”. And then I think what has happened this year and I start listing all of the things and I can’t quite believe that all of them have happened in a year. It’s been a bit crazy!

  8. October 29th, 2008 at 23:22Sara said:

    Flippin’ season always ends too early! And just when we were starting to have fun.

    I really really hope DC has a good race. And just to be controversial, GO Massa, cos you know he’s all cute and stuff.

  9. October 29th, 2008 at 23:24Joe said:

    Dom, where’d you get that? I assume it was you that uploaded it. I’m very intrigued by this, damn tomorrow only being Thursday. v_v

  10. October 29th, 2008 at 23:25R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    I’m surprised with it being Red Bull, they didn’t show all his crashes like they did with faces last year.

  11. October 29th, 2008 at 23:30R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Remembering the season, first listened to the show at Turkey (when I first heard me, I thought he was some ravenous loony that only turned up when he could be bothered :D), came onto sidepodcast.com at Canada, sent my first e-mail before Valencia and aired my voice just last week.

    It has flew.

  12. October 29th, 2008 at 23:33me said:

    I really really hope DC has a good race. And just to be controversial, GO Massa, cos you know he’s all cute and stuff.

    hehe. never really thought about him like that. what’s the attraction?

    I’m surprised with it being Red Bull, they didn’t show all his crashes like they did with faces last year.

    :D

    damn shame they had to leave the pool in europe.

  13. October 29th, 2008 at 23:36me said:

    when I first heard me, I thought he was some ravenous loony that only turned up when he could be bothered

    wha?

    came onto sidepodcast.com at Canada, sent my first e-mail before Valencia and aired my voice just last week.

    that’s pretty cool. my vitals:

    - first listened dec. 2006
    - sent first email jan. 2007
    - aired my voice on day one.

    okay, may not work for me. anyone else?

  14. October 29th, 2008 at 23:39R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Why on earth did you send yourself an e-mail?

    wha?

    Yeah, I was young(er)

  15. October 29th, 2008 at 23:39Dom said:

    Dom, where’d you get that?

    I dropioed it. ;)

    The piccy is from this blog, which i found courtesy of an F1 Fanatic comment.

    This is going to end up in the mod queue, isn’t it?

  16. October 29th, 2008 at 23:39Sara said:

    I really really hope DC has a good race. And just to be controversial, GO Massa, cos you know he’s all cute and stuff.

    hehe. never really thought about him like that. what’s the attraction?

    He’s no Kimi or JV don’t get me wrong, but he’s just got one of those faces where you wanna grab his cheeks and give them a squeeze.

    Other than that I do geniunely hope he somehow manages to walk away with the title. I guess you can put me in the I don’t like Lewis camp.

  17. October 29th, 2008 at 23:40Dom said:

    This is going to end up in the mod queue, isn’t it?

    Oooh, i escaped!

  18. October 29th, 2008 at 23:43me said:

    Why on earth did you send yourself an e-mail?

    i didn’t, i sent christine one.

    I dropioed it.

    :D

    This is going to end up in the mod queue, isn’t it?

    Oooh, i escaped!

    yippee :)

    f1around is becken’s site. quality blog.

  19. October 29th, 2008 at 23:44R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    i didn’t, i sent christine one.

    Doesn’t that revolve around to you reading it still?

  20. October 29th, 2008 at 23:45me said:

    He’s no Kimi or JV don’t get me wrong

    jv? interesting.

    is there a list per chance?

    Other than that I do geniunely hope he somehow manages to walk away with the title. I guess you can put me in the I don’t like Lewis camp.

    ooh, that reminds me… a quick plug for dan’s latest article:

    http://www.f1-pitlane.com/content/case-massa-champion

  21. October 29th, 2008 at 23:46me said:

    Doesn’t that revolve around to you reading it still?

    naah. as you can probably tell, when christine reads emails out on the show, it’s news to me.

    hence why i mistook scott speed for jeff :)

  22. October 29th, 2008 at 23:46R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    is there a list per chance?

    If Nick Heidfeld’s on it, then go me, cos someone said I look like Heidfeld.

    Without the beard obviously.

  23. October 29th, 2008 at 23:48R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    naah. as you can probably tell, when christine reads emails out on the show, it’s news to me.

    But you still listen to them live.

    I’m getting myself into a little hole here aren’t I.

    hence why i mistook scott speed for jeff

    Yes, that proves you are rubbish at improvisation.

  24. October 29th, 2008 at 23:50me said:

    Without the beard obviously.

    give it time :)

    But you still listen to them live.

    even that is debatable.

  25. October 29th, 2008 at 23:50Dom said:

    okay, may not work for me. anyone else?

    Erm… okay.

    - first listened apr. 2007
    - sent first email in the future…
    - aired my voice in the future…

    Still not working, i’m afraid. Come back to me in a few weeks…

  26. October 29th, 2008 at 23:51Sara said:

    I love Nick! Not that I’m suggesting there is a list *coughs*ofcoursethereis*coughs* You guys have the pit girls we get to look at the drivers.

    And yes JV, another guy who had a great rookie year. And he wears glasses.

  27. October 29th, 2008 at 23:54Dom said:

    Without the beard obviously.

    How can you look like Nick without the beard?

    It’s like saying you look like DC without the chin…

  28. October 29th, 2008 at 23:54me said:

    Not that I’m suggesting there is a list *coughs*ofcoursethereis*coughs* You guys have the pit girls we get to look at the drivers.

    hmm, i had no idea.

  29. October 29th, 2008 at 23:57Sara said:

    How can you look like Nick without the beard?

    It’s like saying you look like DC without the chin…

    Its probably a lot easier to look like Nick without the beard than DC without the chin.

    hmm, i had no idea.

    I’m sure its in the rule book.

  30. October 30th, 2008 at 00:01me said:

    I’m sure its in the rule book.

    i can’t believe i overlooked it.

  31. October 30th, 2008 at 00:05Sara said:

    It seems thats happened alot lately. :p

  32. October 30th, 2008 at 00:12me said:

    It seems thats happened alot lately. :p

    ouch!

  33. October 30th, 2008 at 00:14me said:

    i have a feeling christine’s going to enjoy this thread in the morning.

  34. October 30th, 2008 at 00:22Alianora La Canta said:

    Looking like Nick without the beard is like looking like Nick in 2003 (look for photos of him at Sauber and you’ll see what I mean). Perfectly feasible.

    Looking like DC without the chin means looking generally rectangular.

  35. October 30th, 2008 at 01:30lou said:

    okay, may not work for me. anyone else?

    - first listened jan 2007
    - sent first email erm… May 2008
    - aired my voice May 2008

  36. October 30th, 2008 at 01:31me said:

    - first listened jan 2007
    - sent first email erm… May 2008
    - aired my voice May 2008

    yay, perfect :)

  37. October 30th, 2008 at 01:32me said:

    hold on a sec, jan 2007? that’s mighty impressive lou, not sure i knew that?

  38. October 30th, 2008 at 01:46lou said:

    hold on a sec, jan 2007? that’s mighty impressive lou, not sure i knew that?

    yeah Jan 2007. took me almost a year to star visiting the blog and stuff. i was thinking about when i first listened and i remembered it was early Jan 2007 when i went for a weekend in France. It was a long journey and a friend had introduced me to podcasts. I listened to a bunch of f1 podcasts and decided that sidepodcast sounded better, promptly downloaded all that had been released up to then and listened to them on my journey :) have been subscribed ever since. so yeah jan 2007 :) not sure i’ve ever said when exactly cause i hadn’t really thought about it till the other day.

  39. October 30th, 2008 at 01:52Bassano Clapper said:

    Special shout out to Rubber Goat AKA Gavin Brown

    Hope your birthday was kickin’ and the hangover kind to you

    Unfortunately, I was was working late shift for mine but enjoyed some Vino and treats at home afterwards

    I pity the weekend, here I come :D

  40. October 30th, 2008 at 01:53me said:

    not sure i’ve ever said when exactly cause i hadn’t really thought about it till the other day.

    in january ‘07 we didn’t even have 100 listeners, so you really were in there early.

  41. October 30th, 2008 at 01:54me said:

    Special shout out to Rubber Goat AKA Gavin Brown

    Hope your birthday was kickin’ and the hangover kind to you

    did i miss something, or did i forget? sorry rubbergoat, hope you had a good one.

    I pity the weekend, here I come

    heck of a weekend to celebrate :)

  42. October 30th, 2008 at 02:03lou said:

    in january ‘07 we didn’t even have 100 listeners, so you really were in there early.

    aww that may have just made my day, being in the first 100 listeners :) you were actually the first podcast i subscribed too as well :)

  43. October 30th, 2008 at 02:50Bassano Clapper said:

    did i miss something, or did i forget? sorry rubbergoat, hope you had a good one.

    Gavin and I shared a birthday yesterday. I’m not able to celebrate until Sat but raised a glass to a fellow Scorpio tonight.

    I pity the weekend, here I come

    Sunday will be a foggy day for me so I cannot be entirely responsible for my lack of lucidity from Saturday afternoon and until dawn Monday

    You have been warned ;)

  44. October 30th, 2008 at 03:03Journeyer said:

    okay, may not work for me. anyone else?

    - first listened - Jan. 2007
    - sent first email - Sept. 2008
    - aired my voice - Sept. 2008

    I’ll add one more:

    - first commented - Jul. 2007, thereabouts.

    Not bad, not bad at all… :)

  45. October 30th, 2008 at 07:30Scott in Italy (not on the balcony thankfully) said:

    -first listened - end 2007/start 2008
    -sent first email - mid year I guess. took me a while :)
    -aired my voice - Sunday! sidepodpanel 2.

  46. October 30th, 2008 at 07:34Scott in Italy (not on the balcony thankfully) said:

    Gavin and I shared a birthday yesterday.

    Happy Birthday guys :)

  47. October 30th, 2008 at 07:41Alex Andronov said:

    I’ll add one more:

    - first commented - Jul. 2007, thereabouts.

    Good point Journeyer!

    - first listened - September 2007
    - sent first email - August, 2008
    - aired my voice - August, 2008
    - first commented - April, 2007

    Am I going to be the only person to have commented before I listened to the podcast I wonder.

    Looking back to find the first podcast I listened to I found it by looking on f1fanatic because I knew Keith had been on that episode. Both F1Fanatic and Sidepodcast only had only 4 comments each for the posts talking about the podcast. Neither site ever sees posts that quiet any more!

  48. October 30th, 2008 at 07:42Alex Andronov said:

    Gavin and I shared a birthday yesterday.

    Happy Birthday guys

    Yup happy birthday!

  49. October 30th, 2008 at 08:31Journeyer said:

    Looking back to find the first podcast I listened to I found it by looking on f1fanatic because I knew Keith had been on that episode. Both F1Fanatic and Sidepodcast only had only 4 comments each for the posts talking about the podcast. Neither site ever sees posts that quiet any more!

    Amen to that. :) Goes to show that hard work from the Collantines and Blachfords of F1 DOES reap rewards. :)

  50. October 30th, 2008 at 08:33Journeyer said:

    Wow. That’s weird. Why is my comment in the spammer? With not a link in sight? That’s very odd, to say the list.

  51. October 30th, 2008 at 09:38Alex Andronov said:

    That’s very odd, to say the list.

    This typo made me laugh a lot just now!

  52. October 30th, 2008 at 09:40me said:

    Am I going to be the only person to have commented before I listened to the podcast I wonder.

    i have a vague recollection that clive from f1insight also did that, cause he couldn’t get itunes to work on his pc.

    that was back in the days before we used to embed a little player on the page (how daft was that?).

  53. October 30th, 2008 at 09:41me said:

    Wow. That’s weird. Why is my comment in the spammer? With not a link in sight? That’s very odd, to say the list.

    i can see it?

  54. October 30th, 2008 at 09:42me said:

    - first listened - Jan. 2007
    - sent first email - Sept. 2008
    - aired my voice - Sept. 2008

    another listener from jan 2007? blimey, how did you find the show journeyer?

    (and by that i don’t mean was it any good, we’ve already been down that route!)

  55. October 30th, 2008 at 09:52Christine said:

    i can see it?

    I found it. Sorry, should have said.

  56. October 30th, 2008 at 09:57me said:

    I found it. Sorry, should have said.

    ahhh, i gets so used to talking about you when you’re asleep, i forget when you’re awake :)

  57. October 30th, 2008 at 10:11R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Y’know all this makes me want to go through the archives again.

    :D

  58. October 30th, 2008 at 10:21me said:

    weather update:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/brazilweather

  59. October 30th, 2008 at 11:04Alianora La Canta said:

    According to windguru, Friday will be dry, Saturday practise will be somewhat wet, qualifying will be drizzly and the race will be moderately wet.

  60. October 30th, 2008 at 11:15me said:

    According to windguru, Friday will be dry, Saturday practise will be somewhat wet, qualifying will be drizzly and the race will be moderately wet.

    during a season defined by the weather, that seems only fitting :)

  61. October 30th, 2008 at 11:16Alianora La Canta said:

    True. I’m particularly happy because I think Brazil is augmented more by wet weather than most tracks (OK, it augments Hungary more, but then Hungary’s a dull track…)

  62. October 30th, 2008 at 13:13Journeyer said:

    another listener from jan 2007? blimey, how did you find the show journeyer?

    Hmmm… I think it was through some searching. I did a bit of listening, but I only really started listening regularly when Keith guested on your show. Again, that January 2007 date is an estimate… give or take a couple of months. :)

  63. October 30th, 2008 at 13:23me said:

    Hmmm… I think it was through some searching.

    you did well sir.

    when i get time, i’ll have to dig back through some old stats and see at what point we managed to jump past a 100 listeners. unless christine can remember? seemed to take a forever though.

  64. October 30th, 2008 at 13:25me said:

    True. I’m particularly happy because I think Brazil is augmented more by wet weather than most tracks

    fif1 ftw?

    (there may be one to many abbreviations in that sentence).

  65. October 30th, 2008 at 13:37Christine said:

    when i get time, i’ll have to dig back through some old stats and see at what point we managed to jump past a 100 listeners. unless christine can remember? seemed to take a forever though.

    Unfortunately, I’m not a stataholic like you are, and if I did know, the chances of me being able to remember are quite small.

    However, I know that it seemed like we suddenly got more visitors at Christmas. I think we put it down to people giving the gift of the iPod.

  66. October 30th, 2008 at 13:41me said:

    Unfortunately, I’m not a stataholic like you are, and if I did know, the chances of me being able to remember are quite small.

    it may have been shortly after this:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/02/03/new-and-notable/

  67. October 30th, 2008 at 13:42Dom said:

    (there may be one to many abbreviations in that sentence).

    Surely not. This is the sport of abbreviations!

  68. October 30th, 2008 at 14:07Alex Andronov said:

    me: 30/10/2008 at 13:41

    Unfortunately, I’m not a stataholic like you are, and if I did know, the chances of me being able to remember are quite small.

    it may have been shortly after this:
    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/02/03/new-and-notable/

    I just saw the 3 review on the iTunes page. The two more recent ones are a bit harsh! I wondered how recent they are.

  69. October 30th, 2008 at 14:09Alex Andronov said:

    I just saw the 3 review on the iTunes page. The two more recent ones are a bit harsh! I wondered how recent they are.

    By “bit” I mean “extremely”.

  70. October 30th, 2008 at 14:10R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    I’ll go and sort them muppets out.

  71. October 30th, 2008 at 14:17me said:

    I just saw the 3 review on the iTunes page. The two more recent ones are a bit harsh! I wondered how recent they are.

    nah, it’s ok. just click on one of the negative commenters names and see which other show’s they’ve reviewed. then click on the name of the second negative commenter and see if you spot a pattern :)

  72. October 30th, 2008 at 14:18me said:

    I’ll go and sort them muppets out.

    uh-oh ;)

  73. October 30th, 2008 at 14:39Alex Andronov said:

    nah, it’s ok. just click on one of the negative commenters names and see which other show’s they’ve reviewed. then click on the name of the second negative commenter and see if you spot a pattern

    Ah… A bit of rivalry there perhaps!

  74. October 30th, 2008 at 14:41me said:

    Ah… A bit of rivalry there perhaps!

    i cant remember when i first saw them, but i think both were left in reasonably quick succession.

    love to know what it was that triggered such a reaction though :)

  75. October 30th, 2008 at 14:46Stuart C said:

    then click on the name of the second negative commenter and see if you spot a pattern

    What a jolly game. It’s a bit like working out who writes/edits their own entry on Wikipedia (TK to name but one!)

  76. October 30th, 2008 at 14:49Alex Andronov said:

    What a jolly game. It’s a bit like working out who writes/edits their own entry on Wikipedia (TK to name but one!)

    TK?

  77. October 30th, 2008 at 14:51Alex Andronov said:

    So should I admit this?

    I haven’t bought F1 Racing for ages (2 years?) But the first one I bought in ages was the current S-h-m-c-er issue.

    I enjoyed it (but don’t tell me).

  78. October 30th, 2008 at 14:51Alex Andronov said:

    TK?

    ooops.

  79. October 30th, 2008 at 14:51me said:

    It’s a bit like working out who writes/edits their own entry on Wikipedia (TK to name but one!)

    noo! how disappointing :(

  80. October 30th, 2008 at 14:53Stuart C said:

    A TV person who at the beginning of the year was the victim of a cruel FIA stunt (when he swiped through the barriers his real name rather than his nom de plume flashed up on the screen).

  81. October 30th, 2008 at 14:57me said:

    you’re right though that is a fun game, are their any others we ought know about?

    strictly off the record of course ;)

  82. October 30th, 2008 at 14:58Dom said:

    (TK to name but one!)

    Surely JA too? He compliments himself in blog comments, you know. ;)

  83. October 30th, 2008 at 15:02Joe said:

    See what a fellow F1 fan mate of mine done on Photoshop:

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/Lukehmuse/brundle.jpg

  84. October 30th, 2008 at 15:02Stuart C said:

    are their any others we ought know about?

    Jason Cowley (former ed of the Observer Sports Monthly) for definite.

    Also, for greater amusement, look through the history of T Rubython’s entry for the ‘edit war’ between someone who was obviously Rubython and someone who was… someone else.

  85. October 30th, 2008 at 15:06me said:

    Surely JA too? He compliments himself in blog comments, you know

    he does what now?

    Also, for greater amusement, look through the history of T Rubython’s entry for the ‘edit war’ between someone who was obviously Rubython and someone who was… someone else.

    wow, that really was someone else :)

  86. October 30th, 2008 at 15:07Alex Andronov said:

    Stuart C:30/10/2008 at 14:53

    A TV person who at the beginning of the year was the victim of a cruel FIA stunt (when he swiped through the barriers his real name rather than his nom de plume flashed up on the screen).

    The other thing that the person of that IP address added at the same time as his real name is on the liablous side!

    TK did use his original name before Google tells me. He was interviewed by the telegrah under that name in 2004.

  87. October 30th, 2008 at 15:07Alex Andronov said:

    ooopps

  88. October 30th, 2008 at 15:08me said:

    See what a fellow F1 fan mate of mine done on Photoshop

    babs playing allen? :D

  89. October 30th, 2008 at 15:08Alex Andronov said:

    See what a fellow F1 fan mate of mine done on Photoshop:

    :) :)

  90. October 30th, 2008 at 15:09me said:

    ooopps

    fixed :)

  91. October 30th, 2008 at 15:16me said:

    The other thing that the person of that IP address added at the same time as his real name is on the liablous side!

    it’s a rare old place that wikipedia isn’t it?

  92. October 30th, 2008 at 15:17Christine said:

    The other thing that the person of that IP address added at the same time as his real name is on the liablous side!

    If someone is writing that stuff about you, no wonder you’d wanna go in and change it!

  93. October 30th, 2008 at 15:18Dom said:

    See what a fellow F1 fan mate of mine done on Photoshop

    ahaha :D

    That’s the best cast of all time. :)

  94. October 30th, 2008 at 15:22me said:

    If someone is writing that stuff about you, no wonder you’d wanna go in and change it!

    that seems more than reasonable to me. are there rules for wikipedia, like you can’t write your own profile, but you can correct it or something?

  95. October 30th, 2008 at 15:24Stuart C said:

    I enjoyed it (but don’t tell me).

    As I always say: you can’t please all of the people all of the time

  96. October 30th, 2008 at 15:26me said:

    As I always say: you can’t please all of the people all of the time

    i didn’t mind the article. i didn’t think he was front page material, but i guess alex has just proven me wrong.

    you can’t tell me there wasn’t heaps of photoshop used after that shoot though ;)

  97. October 30th, 2008 at 15:29Stuart C said:

    are there rules for wikipedia, like you can’t write your own profile, but you can correct it or something?

    It’s a free-for-all in that anyone can write or edit anything, but supposedly self-policing in that there are (a) algorithms that detect potentially malicious edits and flag them up; and (b) volunteer admins. But who watches the watchmen?

    My favourite Wikipedia moment was when TV theme tune composer Ronnie Hazlehurst died and some enterprising prankster amended his entry to say he’d co-written an S Club 7 hit – a ‘fact’ which appeared in many newspaper obituaries the following day.

  98. October 30th, 2008 at 15:35Stuart C said:

    you can’t tell me there wasn’t heaps of photoshop used after that shoot though

    I’ll let you know when the photographer’s invoice arrives and I see how much he’s charged for “digital capture/postproduction”

  99. October 30th, 2008 at 15:42Alex Andronov said:

    it didn’t mind the article. i don’t think he’s front page material, but i guess alex has just proven me wrong.

    It was just like the old days. Schumacher on the cover. An interview with JV! I felt I was in a time warp ;)

  100. October 30th, 2008 at 15:44me said:

    It’s a free-for-all in that anyone can write or edit anything, but supposedly self-policing in that there are (a) algorithms that detect potentially malicious edits and flag them up; and (b) volunteer admins. But who watches the watchmen?

    true enough.

    we have exactly the same problem here:

    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Guide+to+Hanging+Laundry

    who’s watching christine?

  101. October 30th, 2008 at 15:46Christine said:

    who’s watching christine?

    Well, you’ve already admitted that you’re not.

  102. October 30th, 2008 at 15:47me said:

    Well, you’ve already admitted that you’re not.

    damnit.

  103. October 30th, 2008 at 15:49Alex Andronov said:

    It’s a free-for-all in that anyone can write or edit anything, but supposedly self-policing in that there are (a) algorithms that detect potentially malicious edits and flag them up; and (b) volunteer admins. But who watches the watchmen?

    There was a huge stink on there when Jimbo Wales edited his own entry. The fact that everyone can change everything is why it works. Everyone is a watchmen.

    The suggested action is to report it to the biographies noticeboard which generally results in an established wikipedia person taking a look. It tends to make the process of getting your article cleaned up much easier. But you don’t have to. It’s just the most efficient path.

  104. October 30th, 2008 at 15:50Alex Andronov said:

    me: 30/10/2008 at 15:44

    It’s a free-for-all in that anyone can write or edit anything, but supposedly self-policing in that there are (a) algorithms that detect potentially malicious edits and flag them up; and (b) volunteer admins. But who watches the watchmen?

    true enough.
    we have exactly the same problem here:
    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Guide+to+Hanging+Laundry
    who’s watching christine?

    Well to be fair to Christine the article is incredibly accurate! :)

  105. October 30th, 2008 at 15:51Christine said:

    Well to be fair to Christine the article is incredibly accurate!

    I think it would be quite a challenge to write anything particularly malicious about laundry.

  106. October 30th, 2008 at 15:56Scott in Italy (not on the balcony thankfully) said:

    However, I know that it seemed like we suddenly got more visitors at Christmas. I think we put it down to people giving the gift of the iPod.

    Actually it was just me. I finally got iTunes working, but with the stupid italian instructions, I probably subscribed lots of times :)

    And by “stupid italian”, i mean “italian being read by a stupid”….

  107. October 30th, 2008 at 15:56Stuart C said:

    The fact that everyone can change everything is why it works.

    I’ll use it to double-check DOBs, but there’s so much disinformation on there that it isn’t a great deal of use – not all of the disinformation is intentional or malicious, of course, but even if it is unintentional and well-meaning it is disinformation none the less.

  108. October 30th, 2008 at 16:04me said:

    Actually it was just me. I finally got iTunes working, but with the stupid italian instructions, I probably subscribed lots of times

    you needed instructions for itunes?

  109. October 30th, 2008 at 16:09Alex Andronov said:

    However, I know that it seemed like we suddenly got more visitors at Christmas. I think we put it down to people giving the gift of the iPod.

    I think it might have been the Queen’s speech!

  110. October 30th, 2008 at 16:11Alex Andronov said:

    I’ll use it to double-check DOBs, but there’s so much disinformation on there that it isn’t a great deal of use – not all of the disinformation is intentional or malicious, of course, but even if it is unintentional and well-meaning it is disinformation none the less.

    It’s a great jumping off point but… You have to read the cited articles really. And if there aren’t any cited articles then you shouldn’t trust it.

  111. October 30th, 2008 at 16:34Stuart C said:

    Apropos of nothing at all (save that Mrs C has just sent me the link), I feel I must share this. Marina Hyde has rocketed in my estimation. The comments are a must!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2008/oct/29/lilyallen-celebrity

  112. October 30th, 2008 at 16:35Steven Roy said:

    I think it might have been the Queen’s speech!

    That would be my guess but maybe that is because it was the first thing I saw on sidepodcast. I think Clive linked to it but it could have been Alianora.

  113. October 30th, 2008 at 16:38Scott in Italy (not on the balcony thankfully) said:

    you needed instructions for itunes?

    You’d be surprised what I need instructions for.

  114. October 30th, 2008 at 16:42Christine said:

    You’d be surprised what I need instructions for.

    Hanging laundry? I’ve got just the thing…

  115. October 30th, 2008 at 16:46Alex Andronov said:

    Hanging laundry? I’ve got just the thing…

    :)

  116. October 30th, 2008 at 17:04Scott in Italy (not on the balcony thankfully) said:

    Hanging laundry? I’ve got just the thing…

    !!!

  117. October 30th, 2008 at 17:10R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    People hang laundry nowadays. I thought we put it into some sort of machine like everything else.

  118. October 30th, 2008 at 17:19Alex Andronov said:

    People hang laundry nowadays. I thought we put it into some sort of machine like everything else.

    I think you’re talking about a megablastic dryer there.

  119. October 30th, 2008 at 17:22R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    I think you’re talking about a megablastic dryer there.

    Ah yes, them

  120. October 30th, 2008 at 17:47Alex Andronov said:

    Also says it’s not that he doesn’t like hamilton. It’s that he doesn’t like Ron:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71832

  121. October 30th, 2008 at 17:47Alex Andronov said:

    That should say Alonso obv

  122. October 30th, 2008 at 17:50me said:

    Al[on]so says it’s not that he doesn’t like hamilton. It’s that he doesn’t like Ron

    funny, that’s exactly how i feel :)

  123. October 30th, 2008 at 17:51Scott Woodwiss (Gotta beat Christine in FR) said:

    i’m just adding a couple of my own “Trulli Train-isms” onto the Wiki if anyone’s interested :P

  124. October 30th, 2008 at 18:05Alex Andronov said:

    funny, that’s exactly how i feel

    Maybe Al[on]so will win on Sunday?

  125. October 30th, 2008 at 18:54me said:

    Maybe Al[on]so will win on Sunday?

    blimey, you’re asking before seeing fp1?

    umm, no, i think it’ll be lewis.

  126. October 30th, 2008 at 19:05R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Why is everyone going Al[on]so?

    Have I missed something?

  127. October 30th, 2008 at 19:08Dom said:

    Maybe Al[on]so will win on Sunday?

    I doubt it. This race is gonna be all about Ferrari and McLaren. Having said that, Al[on]so podium?

  128. October 30th, 2008 at 19:10Dom said:

    Why is everyone going Al[on]so?

    Me was trying to avoid confusion. It clearly hasn’t worked…

  129. October 30th, 2008 at 19:14Christine said:

    I doubt it. This race is gonna be all about Ferrari and McLaren. Having said that, Al[on]so podium?

    Al[on]so did seem pretty confident in his preview quotes.

  130. October 30th, 2008 at 19:16R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Alonso will most likely snatch 3rd, or accidently hit the back of Hamilton.

  131. October 30th, 2008 at 19:18Dom said:

    Al[on]so did seem pretty confident in his preview quotes.

    You’d think Al[on]so’s team, Renualt, would be c[on]centrating on next year, by now.

  132. October 30th, 2008 at 19:20R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Oh for the love of bracket.

  133. October 30th, 2008 at 19:20Dom said:

    Alonso will most likely snatch 3rd

    Who?

    or accidently hit the back of Hamilton

    Kimi could have a little ‘accident’ near Hamilton, too.

  134. October 30th, 2008 at 19:24me said:

    You’d think Al[on]so’s team, Renualt, would be c[on]centrating on next year, by now.

    :D

  135. October 30th, 2008 at 19:24me said:

    Kimi could have a little ‘accident’ near Hamilton, too.

    maybe kovi will? it’s not like he could he make his season much worse :)

  136. October 30th, 2008 at 19:25Christine said:

    maybe kovi will?

    Imagine Ron’s face…

  137. October 30th, 2008 at 19:30R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Christine: 30/10/2008 at 19:25

    maybe kovi will?

    Imagine Ron’s face…

    Imagine everyone elses faces.

    Apart from those who support McLaren of course.

  138. October 30th, 2008 at 19:30Dom said:

    maybe kovi will? it’s not like he could he make his season much worse

    Oh wow. Another McLaren mutual parting of ways would become a good bet.

  139. October 30th, 2008 at 19:37Sara said:

    Honestly I go and do a days work and its like reading a small novel when I come back.

    I think it would be very amusing if Alonso had an ‘accident’ with Lewis but then thats me.

  140. October 30th, 2008 at 19:53me said:

    Honestly I go and do a days work and its like reading a small novel when I come back.

    it’s been one of them days ;)

    Imagine Ron’s face…

    Imagine everyone elses faces.

    yeah. maybe we need a quiet end to the season?

  141. October 30th, 2008 at 19:57R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    yeah. maybe we need a quiet end to the season?

    Your going to still have to have one long season review.

  142. October 30th, 2008 at 19:59Sara said:

    yeah. maybe we need a quiet end to the season?

    Nah. Go out with a bang not a whimper. But not DC it is his last one after all.

  143. October 30th, 2008 at 20:00Dom said:

    yeah. maybe we need a quiet end to the season?

    :o

    I’ll pretend i didn’t hear that, shall i?

  144. October 30th, 2008 at 20:12me said:

    Your going to still have to have one long season review.

    hehe, that is true.

    Nah. Go out with a bang not a whimper. But not DC it is his last one after all.

    maybe dc with a flukey podium to finish with?

    I’ll pretend i didn’t hear that, shall i?

    it was only a suggestion ;)

  145. October 30th, 2008 at 20:23Dom said:

    maybe dc with a flukey podium to finish with?

    They should put go-faster stripes on his car to help him.

  146. October 30th, 2008 at 20:27me said:

    They should put go-faster stripes on his car to help him.

    oooh, is that what they’re for?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dcstripes

  147. October 30th, 2008 at 20:33Dom said:

    oooh, is that what they’re for?

    If they really wanted him to have a good last race, they’d put him in a Toro Rosso.

  148. October 30th, 2008 at 20:40me said:

    If they really wanted him to have a good last race, they’d put him in a Toro Rosso.

    :D

  149. October 30th, 2008 at 20:47Sara said:

    If they really wanted him to have a good last race, they’d put him in a Toro Rosso.

    Or maybe just a Mini.

  150. October 30th, 2008 at 21:39Andy Taylor (should be going to bed - Alton Towers tomorrow) said:

    I’ve just found this after a fruitless search for TK’s real name:

    http://www.frikipedia.co.uk/index.php/Kimi_Raikkonen

    “[Kimi] Hails from Finland. Although his birth is believed to have been due to mistake during a genetic experiment designed to extract the charisma out of a young Mika Hakkinen.”

    Brilliant

  151. October 30th, 2008 at 21:44me said:

    Or maybe just a Mini.

    hehehe. one with a big can of the nameless energy drink attached to it’s rear?

    I’ve just found this after a fruitless search for TK’s real name

    seriously, you don’t wanna know.

    Although his birth is believed to have been due to mistake during a genetic experiment designed to extract the charisma out of a young Mika Hakkinen.

    genius :)

  152. October 30th, 2008 at 21:47R.G (The one with the geordie accent) said:

    Still going to Alton Towers tomorrow, seem to be going a lot lately :D

    http://www.frikipedia.co.uk/index.php/Kimi_Raikkonen

    I read a bit about BMW Sauber.

    Apparantly under obligation to finish 85% of the races :D

  153. October 30th, 2008 at 22:17Sara said:

    I love Wiki its randomly amusing.

  154. October 30th, 2008 at 22:25Andy Taylor (went to Alton Towers on Monday) said:

    I love Wiki its randomly amusing.

    Yes, but this is Frickipedia.

    My ex-colleagues and I wanted to set up a Wiki of a list of excuses for not coming to work - sickiepedia, but it’s already in use for crude jokes.

  155. October 31st, 2008 at 01:19lou said:

    seriously, you don’t wanna know.

    i wish you hadn’t said that. i want to know now…

  156. October 31st, 2008 at 08:01Stuart C said:

    i wish you hadn’t said that. i want to know now…

    Here’s a clue: first name is shared with a now-defunct F1 team that was active in the early 80s (not Beatrice!)

  157. October 31st, 2008 at 08:30Journeyer said:

    Here’s a clue: first name is shared with a now-defunct F1 team that was active in the early 80s (not Beatrice!)

    Lou, just to add, it was run by the guy who’s a key part of the Macau GP.

    I think that’s enough for you to figure it out. :)

  158. October 31st, 2008 at 08:45Steven Roy said:

    Theodore

  159. October 31st, 2008 at 12:49Brazil » Olhar contemplativo said:

    [...] Comment on F1 Digest - Brazil Preview by louseriously, you don’t wanna know. i wish you hadn’t said that. i want to know now… [...]

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