Daily: 16th November 2008
We have just returned from the Official Sidepodcast Christmas Party. Oh, alright, it was actually my work’s do at a greyhound stadium. I’ve never been before, and didn’t know what to expect, and all I can say is that the Ted Fighting Fund has been reduced ever so slightly quite a lot.
It doesn’t look like we have missed much in terms of Formula 1 news, but it’s all been happening in the comments. Topics seem to include:
- Cupcakes.
- Granja Vianna 500 miles - a karting event
- Cameras
- Japanese Drivers
- Who’s taking their exams soon?
I’m hoping some Formula 1 news comes along today, just because we seem to have been lacking for the past few days. However, please continue to discuss any of the above and more in the comments below
November 16th, 2008 at 00:07R.G (Don't Stop Me Now, I'm insulting Christines faves) said:
Oh yeah, and how much I’m gonna get killed for insulting the following people:
Jenson button
Bibendium
Panda
Nice to see you wasted the money on Ted, you might as well buy us a cake each now.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:09R.G (Don't Stop Me Now, I'm insulting Christines faves) said:
“We have just returned from the Official Sidepodcast Christmas Party.”
Will the actually be one, like the parade lap. But not before a race?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:11me said:
we didn’t waste money on ted?
we wasted money on the dogs… one of whom was the spitting image of ralf btw.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:12me said:
every podcast should have an xmas party. we had one last year, but it was just the two of us. maybe this year you’re all invited?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:13R.G (Don't Stop Me Now, I'm insulting Christines faves) said:
YAY!
I may even appear for that one
November 16th, 2008 at 00:15Jeremy said:
Go Lewis!
I miss you all. Work is stealing my time. Thanks to whoever is responsible for Sundays off.
My new mentor is head of sales for the whole company so I kind of have to pull my socks up even further.
For some reason, I feel the need to spam this site with the same recipe from the other day.
Taken from http://www.mactalk.com.au
5 MINUTE CHOCOLATE MUG CAKE
4 tablespoons flour
4 tablespoons sugar
2 tablespoons cocoa
1 egg
3 tablespoons milk
3 tablespoons oil
3 tablespoons chocolate chips (optional)
a small splash of vanilla extract
1 large coffee mug
Add dry ingredients to mug, and mix well. Add the egg and mix thoroughly.
Pour in the milk and oil and mix well. Add the chocolate chips (if using) and vanilla extract, and mix again.
Put your mug in the microwave and cook for 3 minutes at 1000 watts (high).
The cake will rise over the top of the mug, but don’t be alarmed! Allow to cool a little, and tip out onto a plate if desired.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:16Jeremy said:
and puppies:
http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.45.swf?cid=317016
November 16th, 2008 at 00:17lou said:
I likes the sound of that
November 16th, 2008 at 00:17me said:
the whole company?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:18me said:
we are not fans of dogs right now!
November 16th, 2008 at 00:20Dom said:
Ah yes. Parties + Dogs = Not a good idea.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:21Jeremy said:
well, Australia anyway.
But I am only 5 levels from Steve!
November 16th, 2008 at 00:33Christine said:
Cooool. In 5 levels time, can you tell Mr Jobs how much we like iPods?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:35Steven Roy said:
Did any of the dogs look like a Honda?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:37lou said:
R.G, i was just thinking, how is the RSPCRF1 script coming along?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:38Steven Roy said:
I am so used to everything anyone sends me being a joke I thought the pups were in a car ansd someone was going to hit the brake and send them flying.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:39lou said:
haha if the dogs they were betting on had horns on their nose, they weren’t dogs
November 16th, 2008 at 00:41me said:
good question, personally ran out of time during the season, but have no excuses now.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:42Christine said:
I couldn’t see any Dumbo-Flugel… I did look.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:43me (this bracket not to be confused with r.g's bracket) said:
the project, rather than the script that is.
November 16th, 2008 at 00:49Christine said:
Ah, have you secretly let slip that you are writing your own script? Are we going to have a summer blockbuster war?
November 16th, 2008 at 00:51Steven Roy said:
RG said a few weeks ago that he was going to try writing a script
November 16th, 2008 at 00:52Steven Roy said:
I have been moderated for a totally uncontroversial comment that doesn’t even have a link in it
November 16th, 2008 at 00:56me (this bracket not to be confused with r.g's bracket) said:
weird, so was christine.
November 16th, 2008 at 02:29Jordan Allen ( says "Buy Jordan Wines") said:
Maybe we should strap a camera to the back of the Panda so that we can have “Panda-Cam”.
November 16th, 2008 at 04:17Scott said:
The WTCC championship battle appears to be settled, as things stand.
Is anyone else watching?
November 16th, 2008 at 05:56Journeyer said:
I am? Did you see the end of Race 2? 1st, 2nd and 3rd were all wiped out on the final lap! Rob Huff (who was lagging behind in 4th) won the whole shebang right at the end! Ridiculous! :O
Alex Zanardi, BTW, got 5th after starting from the pits! Of course, he’ll have to thank the race leaders who crashed out for that.
Anyone watching F3 in around 90 minutes time?
November 16th, 2008 at 08:21Journeyer said:
Move over, Takuma Sato. Japan has a new rising star: Keisuke Kunimoto has just won the 2008 F3 Macau GP, holding off Edoardo Mortara of Italy. This is Kunimoto’s 1st major international win. If he keeps this up, a good seat in GP2 should come his way… perhaps with some help from his current team, Tom’s. Tom’s, after all, is a very close ally of Toyota.
November 16th, 2008 at 09:04RubberGoat (Gavin Brown) said:
Steady on… we have had plenty of hype over Japanese drivers before - and then they get to F1 and don’t end up doing much!
November 16th, 2008 at 09:08Journeyer said:
True, but many good F1 drivers have done VERY well in Macau, like M. Schumacher, Hakkinen, and even Hamilton!
And besides, Sato has already had his time in the F1 sunshine, and he hasn’t been able to do much with it. Time to give other Japanese drivers a go.
November 16th, 2008 at 09:39Rich said:
so did he finished last?
November 16th, 2008 at 09:53R.G (Don't Stop Me Now, I'm insulting Christines faves) said:
Hit a little slow spot with my exams, but still going.
We did, I don’t think Nakajima was as good.
November 16th, 2008 at 10:01Journeyer said:
If Renault gave Piquet, of all people, a 2nd chance, surely we’ve got to do the same for Kazuki?
Sato’s already had 3 chances, and save for that 3rd at Indy 2004 and 6th at Canada 2007, he hasn’t done much with them.
November 16th, 2008 at 11:31Scott in Italy said:
No but he had a lot of hype with people eventually saying he wasn’t good and the only reason he was racing at all was because of his pedigree.
November 16th, 2008 at 11:35Scott in Italy said:
what’s the script? I was thinking about building a live-timing script because there is a freely available linux version (in C) available - all it needs is some “added features”, which I’m sure to all the code writers around is a horrible process of “I’ll just add this feature before the release” and it just happens over and over again…I have some code for work which really ought to have been out by now, but I just keep adding thing… aargh, how did i just think about work on a day off.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:00Scott Woodwiss (hosting the next sidepodpanel :P) said:
Afternoon everybody
Well, this is my last day in my lifetime that I will be a minor. Tomorrow, I am a man
Plus, I’m greatly looking forward to tonight’s panel 
November 16th, 2008 at 12:15lou said:
i didn’t realise you have exams at the moment. Good luck and I hope they go well.
November 16th, 2008 at 13:26me said:
sounds like a hectic day in the world of woodwiss.
i can’t top that. today, i am mostly catching up on the comments i’ve missed
November 16th, 2008 at 13:27Scott Woodwiss (hosting the next sidepodpanel :P) said:
Sutil’s manager says his 2009 Force India is safe
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1226838547/formula_one/F1headlines/Sutils-2009-seat-safe-manager/view.html
November 16th, 2008 at 13:28me said:
you’ve lost me. you can script bernie’s live timing?
November 16th, 2008 at 13:30Scott Woodwiss (hosting the next sidepodpanel :P) said:
Well add on top of that I only got a few hours sleep last night staying over at a house party, it’s been a fairly relaxed day so far.
But I like the sound of “The World of Woodwiss”
November 16th, 2008 at 13:44R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
Well, had maths a few days ago and they really begin to start in January
November 16th, 2008 at 13:54lou said:
ah i see, yeah i should have a few AS mocks in January i think.
November 16th, 2008 at 14:11LadySnowcat said:
Purrrlease don’t malign a poor dog….
I am sure it didn’t believe (against all evidence) that it was the third best at the track…
November 16th, 2008 at 14:16LadySnowcat said:
On the subject of Macau I guess the key event was Brendon Hartley going from 20th to 3rd….. wouldn’t you say?…..
November 16th, 2008 at 14:24me said:
it probably belives it still has a contract at the end of the season
November 16th, 2008 at 14:29Scott Woodwiss (hosting the next sidepodpanel :P) said:
i reckon we should sort a few things out for tonight like team names and who is gonna be on the show. I’ve seen the page on the wiki, but i think that if we make sure everything is accounted for, then we can get everyone onto skype and start without any problems (let’s hope)
November 16th, 2008 at 14:44R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
Without any problems.
AHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA HA HA
Teams names :
Team Yuji Ide : DanBrunell, Gavin, Ollie
Team Sakon Yamamoto : doctorvee, Steven Roy, Andy
That look good to you guys?
November 16th, 2008 at 14:53Scott Woodwiss (hosting the next sidepodpanel :P) said:
I like it
November 16th, 2008 at 14:55me said:
r.g that’s mean
did i miss the memo about naming teams after rubbish japanese drivers?
other than that, all looks good to me.
November 16th, 2008 at 14:57Journeyer said:
Indeed, that was some gutsy driving. Mind you, he got a great amount of help thanks to others’ brain fade and the subsequent SCs, but a great performance nonetheless. Just like Kunimoto, if he keeps that up, he can get a GP2 drive in the near future.
November 16th, 2008 at 14:58R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
No, I just thought of two useless drivers (like I did with Andrea Moda and Super Aguri)
November 16th, 2008 at 14:59Journeyer said:
Why Ide and Yamamoto? Is this related to your doubts with Macau winner Kunimoto-san?
November 16th, 2008 at 15:02R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
To be fair, haven’t even heard of the kid
November 16th, 2008 at 15:17R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
Intresting, exactly a year ago today the big appeal on the spy thingies was being held
November 16th, 2008 at 15:46Scott in Italy said:
If we’re talking the same definitions of the word ’script’ then yes. Another Scott released the code a few years back (link is below). And I’ve compiled and run it on linux and run it on windows XP using cygwin. There is the odd bug, but essentially it’s a console type basic text output of the live timing numbers. I don’t think you get weather and that other stuff, just the lap times. The advantage to working with this is that I/you/me/we could modify it.
I started making changes, but any modifications could only be tested when cars were on track, when I was watching! Given I have ideas, I am happy to share them if someone wants to do something with it. Maybe we could set up something on the site during next season? You know you want to
This is one link for it, but there are other versions around on the net. I think I have a more recent release on a work computer somewhere, but this would show you what you need.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/live-f1/
One more note - the author does not maintain it anymore, but I still managed to have a couple of emails with him at the start of this year about changes I was incorporating.
November 16th, 2008 at 15:52Scott in Italy said:
Good luck to all you guys doing exams in January (and now) - at least the f1 scene will be quiet. hopefully. And hopefully Jenson won’t conspire against Lou to distract her from her studies in some way. Remember: setting fire to something you are not happy with is not a nice thing to do. Aah what a finale….
November 16th, 2008 at 16:06R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
Well, most of them are in May.
November 16th, 2008 at 16:22lou said:
yeah, i had my GCSEs in May/June. Was an interesting time, having the determination after a GP to go and revise was hard. Although i used it as my revision break for that day so it wasn’t that bad, and i’m pretty pleased with my results, so it can’t have done much harm. At the moment i am trying to find out some provisional dates for my AS exam period, as i have a nasty feeling that the British GP maybe on an exam weekend, cause it’s earlier than it usually is. But then again AS exams are normally spread over just a few weeks, instead of the usual month for GCSEs. Fingers crossed it’s on a weekend that wont be just before or during my exams, cause then hopefully i will be able to go.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:02Jackie (nothing worth putting in a bracket) said:
What time does the sidepodpanel start please?
November 16th, 2008 at 18:07R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
F1 Debrief starts at 9. SPP will be after
November 16th, 2008 at 18:08Steven Roy said:
Scheduled for 9pm after Top Gear. This is sidepodcast so assume 9pm ish or maybe if last week is a guide 9pm ish squared.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:08Jackie (nothing worth putting in a bracket) said:
Cool, thanks
November 16th, 2008 at 18:09Steven Roy said:
Is there a debrief first?
November 16th, 2008 at 18:11R.G (Backs bringing Ted Kravitz to Sidepodcast) said:
I believe so
November 16th, 2008 at 18:21me said:
not this week, no. we’re still figuring out our options when it comes to fitting everything in. don’t really want to have to time the ending so that it finishes in time for top gear.
at the moment i think the options are:
- panel friday evening, debrief after top gear on sunday.
- alternate panel and debrief on sundays after top gear.
- panel and debrief on saturday instead.
of the three, number one is the toughest for us as it means setting up the studio for a live show twice a week, rather than just the once.
any thoughts or more ideas gratefully accepted.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:23Christine said:
I miss the debrief.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:24lou said:
so it’s just the podpanel tonight?
November 16th, 2008 at 18:24me said:
yup
November 16th, 2008 at 18:25me said:
did i confuse people somewhere or something? how come everyone thinks there’s debrief?
whatever i said, it was steven’s fault.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:27Jackie (nothing worth putting in a bracket) said:
I know you mentioned this idea on one of the daily blogs, but what’s the problem with having one on the Sunday afternoon, about 3pm, before folks have dinner and the other after Top Gear?
November 16th, 2008 at 18:30lou said:
ok.
This one sounds like the best one to me, that way it can go on late (if it needed to) with less of a chance that everyone will need to get an earlyish night due to getting up early the next day. Plus i kinda like the format of doing the debrief followed by the podpanel, and with it being on a saturday (no top gear) you could start earlier if you needed to.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:31me said:
that would work in the sense that it would be guaranteed to be done and dusted before TG started.
it kinda means that’s most of sunday wiped out for us just because we can’t do much in the studio once it’s setup for live. so once debrief is wrapped, we’ll pretty much have to sit and wait for 9pm to roll around before continuing.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:32R.G (Shocks, lies, danger. Behind the Brackets, tonight at 9) said:
Could get busy and difficult for you guys, and I do actually have a life
So doing it on two days may not work for some pople
I like this idea best, I was thinking of it a while. It won’t go on for ridiculous times, and gives Debrief a chance with spp.
I’m assuming it would start 7ish. Would be good for me as I don’t normally do much on a Saturday night. As long as there is no football on of course
It’s between 2 and 3 for me if im honest
I suggested that the other day actually, me seems to have forgot.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:33lou said:
I think it’s because it seems normal now that you do the debrief and then the podpanel. I assumed that the only reason there was no debrief last week was cause it was meant to be your week off.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:33me said:
i do that, sorry
November 16th, 2008 at 18:33R.G (Shocks, lies, danger. Behind the Brackets, tonight at 9) said:
I understand that, but isnt it possible to do it both before TG?
November 16th, 2008 at 18:34R.G (Shocks, lies, danger. Behind the Brackets, tonight at 9) said:
Plus the fact we like debrief.
Well I do anyways.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:35me said:
ahh, ok.
that seems reasonable too.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:42Steven Roy said:
I was the one who said there wasn’t a debrief.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:43R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Erm, yeah it was me.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:44Steven Roy said:
I am rarely around much before 9pm on a Saturday so for purely selfish reasons I am not keen on that.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:46Steven Roy said:
It would be the same as having a race.
November 16th, 2008 at 18:51Andy Taylor said:
Evening. I’m up for the panel tonight, I see my name is already on the list
November 16th, 2008 at 19:01Steven Roy said:
sidepodspace update
The shuttle is now less than 40 miles from the ISS. It should catch the station in less than two hours. The rendezvous pitch manouevre (backflip) will start at 9pm so that the ISS crew can photograph the heat shield of the shuttle to check for damage.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:02RubberGoat (Gavin Brown) said:
My two cents (and you’ll get much more for your money when you hear me on the ‘panel later
):
Well I don’t like Option 1 if it makes things tough for you - you guys do more than enough as it is and we shouldn’t ask you to increase the workload when there are other options available!
Option 3 is OK… but that would mean the debrief would be a week after the race wouldn’t it?
Option 2 sounds good, except consideration for the parts of the calendar where we have races on consecutive Sundays, or where we have a 3-week gap instead of 2 weeks needs to be made.
As long as the Debrief gets a priority slot over the ‘panel, as I think it would defeat the point to wait a week to debrief a race (as it’s too long after the event), it would make the most sense to have alternating Sundays.
I love taking part in the panel but I (and many others) have early starts on Mondays, so it would be nice if we could finish a little earlier. Having said that, it’s your show and I reckon you guys should call the shots on what schedule works best for you
November 16th, 2008 at 19:06R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
I believe this is just for off season right?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:06lou said:
Is this change is schedule purely for when top gear is on, or is it gonna be a permanent thing?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:08R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Presumably for when TG is on, otherwise there is no reason to start at 9
November 16th, 2008 at 19:09RubberGoat (Gavin Brown) said:
Maybe, but there’s only 130 days until the start of the 2009 Season
November 16th, 2008 at 19:09Steven Roy said:
Once Top Gear disappears there is no reason not to do both shows. Anyone know how long the current run is? I know the last series was only 6 shows.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:10R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Till Christmas time I believe, 10 eps in this season. This week is 3 I believe
November 16th, 2008 at 19:14me said:
interesting point. long term thinking, what do we do when the races return?
hadn’t thought that through.
hadn’t thought that through either.
if people are interested, there’s no reason to stop it. christine just suggested a run of shows that make up a season. so 8 panel shows = 1 season, then we break for a couple of months and come back again.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:14R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Okay, y’know how sidepodcast is known to have buffering issues. But 5Demand is just ridiculous.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:14me said:
that’s worth keeping in mind too.
really haven’t thought this thrugh have i?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:14lou said:
that’s good. so it will prob go back to normal by Jan then, just in time for all the car launches etc.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:15R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
That sounds like a nice idea. Or, give everyone the opportunity to host then end series, start again a bit later. Excellent idea Mr. Me
November 16th, 2008 at 19:16R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Then maybe specials, as in half a season in, christmas, that stuff.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:17lou said:
oh demand five is actually useless. the picture freezes and you just get sound, then you get 2 mins of video and sound in sinc then it buffers for 4 mins then the picture freezes… it’s like a very annoying cycle, hence why i always try to remember to record the gadget show on a monday.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:18R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
I usually remember to watch it, but it just went over my head this week.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
November 16th, 2008 at 19:25Christine said:
That was my idea!!
November 16th, 2008 at 19:25Christine said:
Like Doctor Who.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:27R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Me said it
Aye
November 16th, 2008 at 19:28Christine said:
I said it OUT LOUD.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:30Steven Roy said:
So what are we going to replace sidepodpanel with when it is not on?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:30R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Okay, okay.
Just do the Debrief I assume.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:33Andy Taylor said:
I think fewer panel shows is probably a good idea, it will help keep the format fresh. In the race season, alternating with the debrief shows is an excellent idea.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:35me said:
but what would you do between now and the start of the race season?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:35lou said:
I don’t think alternating in the season is a good idea, cause that’s when (in my opinion) the debrief is needed most, as there is plenty of news each week.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:38Steven Roy said:
During the season you need a Debrief every week
November 16th, 2008 at 19:40me said:
it’s a toughy aint it?
the solution must be to convince bernie, we need one race next year. the season should start and end in melbourne and then we might just about be able to fit stuff in
November 16th, 2008 at 19:40R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
How about a idea like this during the season
A debrief every week
A sidepodpanel when there has not been a race on that weekend?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:46me said:
that’s doable, but m** is bound to get caught with his trousers down at some point, and then what do we do?
there is an obvious solution. if we broadcast 24 / 7, we’ll always be on air and able to respond to any f1 news at any point.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:47R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
You still got that sidepodnews haven’t you.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:48Steven Roy said:
When I suggested that you were against it. Now you are trying to nick my idea
November 16th, 2008 at 19:48me said:
and nasa news.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:48me said:
so you’re admitting this is your idea?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:49Steven Roy said:
24/7 was mine
November 16th, 2008 at 19:50Andy Taylor said:
Break out the mind bleach?
November 16th, 2008 at 19:50R.G (I'm being out bracketed) said:
Ooh, I don’t think we hav that one down on the wiki.
I’ll udate the wiki
November 16th, 2008 at 19:52Steven Roy said:
Perpetual sidepodcast
November 16th, 2008 at 19:52me said:
noted.
November 16th, 2008 at 19:54Live: What a Way to Celebrate Your 18th | Sidepodcast : Your Weekly F1 Podcast said:
[...] The show seems to have taken over, so much so that there’s a fierce debate going on in the comments about how it’s going to fit in from now on. Whilst I can’t tell you anything definitive [...]
November 16th, 2008 at 20:02Jackie said:
Blush .. sorry I asked the question now!