Daily: 20th November 2008

It was the final day of testing today which saw some lopsided Ferrari cars, some Renault braces and Vettel on top once again. That was good stuff. Now we get to sit back and try and analyse everything we saw. It’s going to be particularly difficult because everyone was running different strategies and we don’t have any idea who was actually fast. Nevertheless, we will do our best.

Formula 1 related discussions:

  • Bourdais seems to be pretty annoyed about the way his test went, he’s now saying that it’s going to come down to the money in the end.
  • Sutil says he’s not feeling threatened by Pedro de la Rosa, which is hardly a surprise because he finished last for the second day in a row.
  • The Red Bulletin looks like it’s on the way out. Boo.
  • Also, how can we get Bernie on Sidepodquiz?

Non-Formula 1 related discussions:

  • There’s a new commenting feature available. Use it carefully, it’s brand new and still in the alpha stage.
  • We’d still quite like your nomination votes. It’s still the nominations, people, imagine how much fun we’ll have once it gets going.

Naturally, there is no reason to feel limited by what I have listed here. We want to hear what you’ve got to say about anything F1 and about the world in general. Get talking, and I’ll see you in the comments.

Written on November 20th, 2008 at 12:01 am by Christine.
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  1. November 20th, 2008 at 00:07 #1 - me said:

    there is a flaw in the new commenting feature – there’s no way to start a new conversation. so this be what i’m doing.

    or to put it another way…

    first!

  2. November 20th, 2008 at 00:08 #2 - Andy Taylor said:

    or to put it another way…

    Hmm, I can’t click on the word in italics. Another bug or is it just so i can’t ask if you are going to moderate yourself for posting “first” in a new thread? :)

  3. November 20th, 2008 at 00:10 #3 - Steven Roy said:

    Makes more sense now that there are two active threads.

    I just realised that anyone reading this later will have no idea what I am on about. Still never mind.

  4. November 20th, 2008 at 00:12 #4 - me said:

    Hmm, I can’t click on the word in italics. Another bug or is it just so i can’t ask if you are going to moderate yourself for posting “first” in a new thread?

    :)

    that’s a proper bug.

  5. November 20th, 2008 at 00:16 #5 - Andy Taylor said:

    that’s a proper bug.

    Ah OK :D

  6. November 20th, 2008 at 00:29 #6 - Journeyer said:

    Steven Roy: 20/11/2008 at 00:10

    Makes more sense now that there are two active threads.
    I just realised that anyone reading this later will have no idea what I am on about. Still never mind.

    I got what ya meant. :P

  7. November 20th, 2008 at 01:28 #7 - Steven Roy said:

    I just looked at the realtime thing and it was 4 or 5 comments behind. I unchecked the ‘Update real time feed’ box and re-checked it and that brought up all the missing comments. It should have been updating all along.

  8. November 20th, 2008 at 01:30 #8 - Steven Roy said:

    I posted my previous comment using the lclt and the realtime page has updated immediately.

  9. November 20th, 2008 at 02:28 #9 - me said:

    I just looked at the realtime thing and it was 4 or 5 comments behind. I unchecked the ‘Update real time feed’ box and re-checked it and that brought up all the missing comments. It should have been updating all along.

    what happened there then?

    good news is this works on the iPod whereas lclt doesn’t.

  10. November 20th, 2008 at 09:11 #10 - Scott Woodwiss (Is 18 XD) said:

    Yossidlr has a video up now of action from yesterday at Barcelona :D

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNW2QfrJl0

  11. November 20th, 2008 at 09:20 #11 - Scott Woodwiss (Is 18 XD) said:

    Also, how ironic is it that for that podcast community, the only nearest competition to us, a Formula 1 podcast, is a podcast on the environment :P

  12. November 20th, 2008 at 09:23 #12 - me said:

    Also, how ironic is it that for that podcast community, the only nearest competition to us, a Formula 1 podcast, is a podcast on the environment

    hey, we have pandas.

  13. November 20th, 2008 at 09:29 #13 - Scott Woodwiss (Is 18 XD) said:

    hey, we have pandas.

    :D

  14. November 20th, 2008 at 10:04 #14 - As if they Could Look More Ugly | Sidepodcast : Your Weekly F1 Podcast said:

    [...] pointed out in the comments earlier this morning, that frequent F1 video uploader yossidlr has come up with the goods once more and provided some [...]

  15. November 20th, 2008 at 11:21 #15 - Andy Taylor said:

    hey, we have pandas.

    Just the one panda?

  16. November 20th, 2008 at 11:26 #16 - me said:

    Just the one panda?

    we need more?

  17. November 20th, 2008 at 11:30 #17 - Steven Roy said:

    Just the one panda?

    We have the 50 that the Chinese are lending us for our F1 team’s factory and a bamboo forest on top of the French volcano.

  18. November 20th, 2008 at 11:30 #18 - me said:

    We have the 50 that the Chinese are lending us for our F1 team’s factory and a bamboo forest on top of the French volcano.

    beat that eco-mentalists.

  19. November 20th, 2008 at 12:09 #19 - Journeyer said:

    Disneyland drops out of the race to host the French GP:

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20986.html

    The company Lagardere Sports and Disneyland Paris have abandoned their project to hold the French Grand Prix, saying that the event is not economically viable. The plan was for a race in 2010 but it seems that the local government was not willing to come up with the funding because of fears that the local population would object to the event. This means that there is not going to be a French Grand Prix in either 2009 or 2010.

    The project was headed by former world champion Alain Prost and was one of the six that were in competition for the event. The deal was for Lagardere to come up with around $80m in finance with Disney providing the land.

    The latest rumours suggest that the project that will now become the favourite is the one in departement of the Yvelines, to the west of Paris, in the valley of the River Seine, at Flins. This is understood to have the support of French Prime Minister Francois Fillon.

    Another failed project for Prost, but more importantly, no French GP for a while. If we lose the British GP as well for 2010 (assuming Donington doesn’t pull it off), that will leave us with quite an odd calendar.

  20. November 20th, 2008 at 12:16 #20 - Journeyer said:

    Some more news, this time from Pitpass:

    However, when asked by a reporter for Montreal radio station CJAD about his "unreasonable" demands, said to be $175m (Can) over the next 5 years, plus advertising and attendance revenues, Ecclestone said: “Unreasonable compared to what?

    “We do business worldwide and nobody else thinks we’re unreasonable,” he continued. “We’ve got a queue of people that want races. So we can’t be unreasonable.”

    Canada is a typical example of the quandary that the sport finds itself in. Whilst popular with fans and drivers, it is proving ever more difficult to meet Formula One Management’s financial demands. On the other hand, there are many countries, particularly in the east, where governments and entrepreneurs are only too happy to pay up in order to become part of the F1 dream.

    “Everyone in Formula One loves Montreal,” said Ecclestone. “I said (to the organizers) you can come to my office, pull any contract out of that drawer for all the overseas races, take any one of them, cross out the name and put your name, and that’s what we’ll do. Because what was offered [by] them was less than we get anywhere else in the world.”

    That said, he refused to go into any detail regarding Montreal’s offer.

    As the issue rumbles on, with both sides accusing one another, the real losers are the fans, particularly in Canada, indeed, north America, which is missing from the F1 calendar for the first time since 1958.

    Asked if he would like to see Montreal back on the F1 map, Ecclestone replied: “Of course we would… we didn’t want to lose it.”

  21. November 20th, 2008 at 14:33 #21 - Christine said:

    Both Sutil and now Fisichella have come out and said: My job is safe, I have a contract, Pedalo is no threat to us.

    (Paraphrasing obviously. And they probably didn’t say Pedalo.)

    Do you think this is a case of ‘he doth protest too much’ or simply them trying to say ’stop scraping the barrel for news just because there isn’t any’?

  22. November 20th, 2008 at 14:34 #22 - Christine said:

    Also, Journeyer, we love sharing news stuff, but try not to quote more than a paragraph or too, or else we’ll get in trouble :)

  23. November 20th, 2008 at 14:42 #23 - Journeyer said:

    Also, Journeyer, we love sharing news stuff, but try not to quote more than a paragraph or too, or else we’ll get in trouble

    Whoops-ey-doodle. Hey, at least I cited them. But alright. :)

    Both Sutil and now Fisichella have come out and said: My job is safe, I have a contract, Pedalo is no threat to us.

    Um, as you said, PDLR is… well, slow. But how about PDR? :)

  24. November 20th, 2008 at 14:44 #24 - Journeyer said:

    Do you think this is a case of ‘he doth protest too much’ or simply them trying to say ’stop scraping the barrel for news just because there isn’t any’?

    Hmmm… there is probably something to the Pedro angle, but his test times killed that off.

  25. November 20th, 2008 at 14:45 #25 - Christine said:

    Um, as you said, PDLR is… well, slow. But how about PDR?

    I guess they don’t see either of them as a threat? They must be really confident in their contracts.

  26. November 20th, 2008 at 14:47 #26 - Journeyer said:

    I guess they don’t see either of them as a threat? They must be really confident in their contracts.

    As they say, a contract is worth the paper it’s written on. In other words, those can change at any time. I’m basing my confidence more on their test performances.

  27. November 20th, 2008 at 15:00 #27 - me said:

    Do you think this is a case of ‘he doth protest too much’ or simply them trying to say ’stop scraping the barrel for news just because there isn’t any

    well, what’s an f1 contract worth these days?

    in truth though, he’s old, he’s slow and if i’m honest he’s a bit of a cheater. can’t see they have anything to worry about from that man.

  28. November 20th, 2008 at 16:16 #28 - Jordan Allen () said:

    November 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pmJourneyer said:

    Disneyland drops out of the race to host the French GP:

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20986.html

    That’s awful! It was such a “Mickey-Mouse” track too! :P

  29. November 20th, 2008 at 16:20 #29 - me said:

    that bike rider chap apparently is 3secs off the pace in italy today:

    “Rossi, who won his eighth world title and sixth in the top Moto GP class in September, had stated prior to testing the Ferrari that he wanted to get within one second of the lap record.”

    “He still has a day and a half of testing to reach his objective.”

    http://tinyurl.com/rossiferraritest

  30. November 20th, 2008 at 16:22 #30 - me said:

    That’s awful! It was such a “Mickey-Mouse” track too!

    :D

  31. November 20th, 2008 at 16:43 #31 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    Asked if he would like to see Montreal back on the F1 map, Ecclestone replied: “Of course we would… we didn’t want to lose it.”

    I love Bernie.

    That’s awful! It was such a “Mickey-Mouse” track too!

    :D

  32. November 20th, 2008 at 16:44 #32 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    there is a flaw in the new commenting feature – there’s no way to start a new conversation. so this be what i’m doing.

    Surely you could just use the old live commenting like me now?

  33. November 20th, 2008 at 16:51 #33 - Steven Roy said:

    that bike rider chap apparently finished 3secs off the pace in italy today:

    He only did 30 laps. Mugello is a tricky circuit and not having sat in a single seater for a year it will take him a while to get down to a representative time.

  34. November 20th, 2008 at 16:58 #34 - Steven Roy said:

    sidepodspace

    The astronauts doing today’s spacewalk are being loaded into the airlock now so the spacewalk should start some time within the next hour. Any guesses as to what Heidi will throw overboard today?

  35. November 20th, 2008 at 17:06 #35 - me said:

    i know you want one:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/ing-ts-noir-d-lum-ah763-1-300

  36. November 20th, 2008 at 17:09 #36 - Steven Roy said:

    i know you want one:

    The worrying thing about that is that honda may do an earthdreams version

  37. November 20th, 2008 at 17:45 #37 - me said:

    The worrying thing about that is that honda may do an earthdreams versio

    am thinking we need to get christine to wear one and do a show in the dark :)

  38. November 20th, 2008 at 17:58 #38 - Steven Roy said:

    http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=44638

    My driving style suits ugly cars – Jenson

  39. November 20th, 2008 at 17:59 #39 - Steven Roy said:

    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44643

    Five drivers for two STR seats – Le Seb

  40. November 20th, 2008 at 18:05 #40 - Steven Roy said:

    Just to prove that ugly cars are nothing new I ‘borrowed’ a few pics of cars that were greeted with horror by previous generations. Have they grown on you or are they still ugly.

  41. November 20th, 2008 at 18:07 #41 - Steven Roy said:

    sidepodspace

    The second spacewalk has just started. It is due to finish shortly after midnight GMT.

  42. November 20th, 2008 at 18:13 #42 - Jordan Allen () said:

    November 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pmSteven Roy said:

    http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=44638

    My driving style suits ugly cars – Jenson

    At the risk of making Lou angry, does that mean that Jenson’s driving style is also “ugly”….

  43. November 20th, 2008 at 18:19 #43 - Steven Roy said:

    At the risk of making Lou angry, does that mean that Jenson’s driving style is also “ugly”….

    Since Lou is going to read this I will say that it is because his style compensates for the ugliness.

  44. November 20th, 2008 at 18:34 #44 - Jordan Allen (These new cars really do assault the eyes!) said:

    November 20th, 2008 at 6:19 pmSteven Roy said:

    At the risk of making Lou angry, does that mean that Jenson’s driving style is also “ugly”….

    Since Lou is going to read this I will say that it is because his style compensates for the ugliness.

    Maybe Honda needs a driver with a “ragged” style of driving the car, like JV, so that at worst, the cameras will have a hard time focusing on the car and resulting blur will be more pleasing to the viewer’s eyes than these ugly cars!

  45. November 20th, 2008 at 18:53 #45 - me said:

    Just to prove that ugly cars are nothing new I ‘borrowed’ a few pics of cars that were greeted with horror by previous generations. Have they grown on you or are they still ugly.

    - ugly
    - ugly
    - ugly
    - ugly
    - ok

  46. November 20th, 2008 at 18:56 #46 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    - ugly – ugly – ugly – ugly – ok

    ugly
    ugly
    oh sweet god thats ugly
    ugly
    very ugly
    ugly

  47. November 20th, 2008 at 18:58 #47 - Steven Roy said:

    - ugly – ugly – ugly – ugly – ok

    I have since add the ligier JS5 which for dairly obvious reasons was known as the teapot

  48. November 20th, 2008 at 18:59 #48 - me said:

    I have since add the ligier JS5 which for dairly obvious reasons was known as the teapot

    - ugly

  49. November 20th, 2008 at 19:01 #49 - Steven Roy said:

    oh sweet god thats ugly

    You are only saying that because you know Max’s company built it.

  50. November 20th, 2008 at 19:06 #50 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    You are only saying that because you know Max’s company built it.

    Oh.sweet.god.

  51. November 20th, 2008 at 19:08 #51 - RubberGoat (Gavin Brown) said:

    Just to prove that ugly cars are nothing new I ‘borrowed’ a few pics of cars that were greeted with horror by previous generations. Have they grown on you or are they still ugly.

    The Arrows A2 and Tyrrell 6-wheeler aren’t too bad, the rest are ugly!

  52. November 20th, 2008 at 19:11 #52 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    Good news everybody (I’m starting to talk like Prof. Farnsworth of Futurama)

    http://www.itpro.co.uk/608484/bbc-to-live-stream-main-tv-channels

    BBC are to show live streaming of their shows soon. Be able to watch F1 races now in deepest, darkest Britain. (Theres a joke here but I’m not gonna say it.)

  53. November 20th, 2008 at 19:12 #53 - Steven Roy said:

    The Arrows A2 and Tyrrell 6-wheeler aren’t too bad, the rest are ugly!

    I always liked the the Tyrrell P34 but the rest vary from ugly to just plain weird for the Ligier.

  54. November 20th, 2008 at 19:48 #54 - me said:

    BBC are to show live streaming of their shows soon. Be able to watch F1 races now in deepest, darkest Britain. (Theres a joke here but I’m not gonna say it.)

    we can officially dispose of the tv then :)

  55. November 20th, 2008 at 20:01 #55 - RubberGoat (Gavin Brown) said:

    Has anyone here posted their top 10 drivers yet? Here’s mine:

    1. Kubica
    = Alonso
    3. Hamilton
    = Massa
    5. Vettel
    6. Trulli
    7. Bourdais
    8. Glock
    9. Webber
    10. Raikkonen

    I put Kubica and Alonso joint 1st as they were the most consistent and won in bad machinery.

    Hamilton and Massa – too close to call as both drove brilliantly one week and rubbish the next.

    Vettel is next, and a bit lower down because he started the year poorly and he’s a rookie

    Trulli is next because he did well in an average car and kept the motivation up.

    Bourdais next because he would have had a much better year if it wasn’t for the bad luck and bad penalties given to him.

    Glock next, a young hotshoe, fast and talented but had two of the year’s biggest accidents.

    Webber is next, flashes of brilliance but couldn’t get the most out of a potentially race-winning car. Silverstone really was a bad race for him in my book.

    Finally Kimi Raikkonen, who I mention purely because he had the talent to win the championship, and until he crashed drove brilliantly at Spa, but let himself down week after week. He is only here because we know he can do better.

    Well, there’s my Top 10 for 2008. Ladies and Gentlemen, start your arguments!

  56. November 20th, 2008 at 20:26 #56 - me said:

    Has anyone here posted their top 10 drivers yet?

    of the year? don’t think so.

    ten seems a lot though. let’s give it a try…

    - vettel
    - kubica
    - alonso
    - heidfeld
    - massa
    - lewis
    - rosberg
    - kimi
    - bourdais
    - webber

  57. November 20th, 2008 at 20:34 #57 - Scott in Italy said:

    The astronauts doing today’s spacewalk are being loaded into the airlock now so the spacewalk should start some time within the next hour. Any guesses as to what Heidi will throw overboard today?

    If I was the other spacewalker today, I’d be staying well away from her. No wonder that NASA reports they are ahead of schedule – the other guy is to get back inside ASAP!FYI The spacewalk is still going but i haven’t seen any outside pictures in the last five minutes (I just turned it on).

    and now back to watching Gladiator on tv…
    Today’s italian lesson: Roma ha vinto! (Rome has won!)

  58. November 20th, 2008 at 20:53 #58 - Scott in Italy said:

    re: top ten drivers

    way to hard for me tonight. to decide which drivers drove well, based on how good there car was and only shown up by how good the other driver was. hypothetically if there was a team with two good drivers, but a bad car, we’d just assume there was a really good car and think the drivers had it easy. Too hard to separate drivers and their cars for me.

  59. November 20th, 2008 at 21:05 #59 - Scott in Italy said:

    video of Rossi test - not sure if this works outside Italy but thought we could try.

    24 Photos of rossi test

  60. November 20th, 2008 at 21:17 #60 - me said:

    video of Rossi test – not sure if this works outside Italy but thought we could try.

    works for me, thanks.

  61. November 20th, 2008 at 21:19 #61 - me said:

    24 Photos of rossi test

    without bothering to do any research whatsoever, i’m assuming 46 is his usual number?

    love the effort they put in to the garage door.

  62. November 20th, 2008 at 21:27 #62 - Jackie said:

    re top ten drivers:

    1. Massa
    2. Hamilton
    3. Alonso
    4. Kubica
    5. Vettel
    6. Glock
    7. Rosberg
    8. Barrichello
    9. Heidfeld
    10. Kimi

    Honorary mention to DC.. I’m gonna miss him!

  63. November 20th, 2008 at 21:39 #63 - Scott in Italy said:

    without bothering to do any research whatsoever, i’m assuming 46 is his usual number?

    Yeah that’s his number. It looks like they wrote the number on with shaving cream.

  64. November 20th, 2008 at 21:48 #64 - Jackie said:

    I have a new definition for your dictionary :)
    yuk-er-roo, adjective to describe how bad the new front wing on the 2009 spec cars is

  65. November 20th, 2008 at 21:57 #65 - Scott said:

    Just testing the ‘realtime’ page using Epiphany.

  66. November 20th, 2008 at 21:58 #66 - Scott said:

    All seems to work OK.

    Edit: And the edit function works too. How cool.

  67. November 20th, 2008 at 22:33 #67 - Andy Taylor said:

    The Arrows A2 and Tyrrell 6-wheeler aren’t too bad, the rest are ugly!

    I quite like the FW08 6 wheeler.

  68. November 20th, 2008 at 22:36 #68 - me said:

    Just testing the ‘realtime’ page using Epiphany.

    ooh fancy :)

    All seems to work OK.

    yay!

  69. November 20th, 2008 at 22:36 #69 - me said:

    I have a new definition for your dictionary
    yuk-er-roo, adjective to describe how bad the new front wing on the 2009 spec cars is

    i”l second that.

  70. November 20th, 2008 at 22:45 #70 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    I have a new definition for your dictionary yuk-er-roo, adjective to describe how bad the new front wing on the 2009 spec cars is

    I like to call it, sleak.

  71. November 20th, 2008 at 22:46 #71 - R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?) said:

    R.G (What need is there for fish to sing, when I can roar and bellow?): 20/11/2008 at 22:45

    I have a new definition for your dictionary yuk-er-roo, adjective to describe how bad the new front wing on the 2009 spec cars is

    I like to call it, sleak.

    That, and next time I’m on SPP with a related car question, best bet is not to be on my team.

  72. November 20th, 2008 at 23:03 #72 - me said:

    That, and next time I’m on SPP with a related car question, best bet is not to be on my team.

    planning ahead, i like it.

  73. November 20th, 2008 at 23:07 #73 - (prefix brackets to start a new trend) Jackie said:

    Hmmph … not even been on an SPP show yet and there is rivalry! lol

  74. November 20th, 2008 at 23:17 #74 - me said:

    Hmmph … not even been on an SPP show yet and there is rivalry! lol

    haha. you’re always welcome though.

    sounds like you’ll have to be on r.g’s team to help make up for his points shortfall.

  75. November 20th, 2008 at 23:36 #75 - Steven Roy said:

    Hmmph … not even been on an SPP show yet and there is rivalry! lol

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already. Volunteers can sign up at the link below.

    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Next+Week%27s+Panellists

  76. November 20th, 2008 at 23:41 #76 - me said:

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already. Volunteers can sign up at the link below.

    do you think that’s because we’re planning on doing it earlier?

  77. November 20th, 2008 at 23:44 #77 - Steven Roy said:

    me: 20/11/2008 at 23:41

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already. Volunteers can sign up at the link below.

    do you think that’s because we’re planning on doing it earlier?

    I don’t know why it is. Since the show started there has never been a shortage of volunteers. I would assume that most of the regular panelists haven’t visited the wiki for a few days. Either that or they want to make sure there is a slot for Kathi.

  78. November 20th, 2008 at 23:45 #78 - (prefix brackets to start a new trend) Jackie said:

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already. Volunteers can sign up at the link below.

    Hehe, right now you might think I am stupid, but if I go as a panelist on SPP you will KNOW I’m stupid :)

  79. November 20th, 2008 at 23:53 #79 - me said:

    Hehe, right now you might think I am stupid, but if I go as a panelist on SPP you will KNOW I’m stupid

    pah, you know that’s not true.

  80. November 21st, 2008 at 00:15 #80 - Jolly said:

    Bernie Ecclestone divorce confirmed
    http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/171954-0/bernie_ecclestone_divorce_confirmed.html

  81. November 21st, 2008 at 00:21 #81 - Steven Roy said:

    Hehe, right now you might think I am stupid, but if I go as a panelist on SPP you will KNOW I’m stupid

    Most people think they will come across badly but everyone who does the show is there to enjoy it and no-one is there to put anyone else down. Look how nervous Lou was and how she thought she would struggle but she was really good. You should try it. It really is great fun. Besides if you are struggling for something to say there are people like Scott and me who can talk all day and fill the space.

  82. November 21st, 2008 at 00:22 #82 - lou said:

    Just catching up with the comments i’ve missed today

    My driving style suits ugly cars – Jenson

    Tis good to know that things might be looking up for Honda… although what is said at the beginning of the season and what is said at the end is often very very different..

    At the risk of making Lou angry, does that mean that Jenson’s driving style is also “ugly”….

    Am too tired to be angry ;)

    Since Lou is going to read this I will say that it is because his style compensates for the ugliness.

    Good answer :)

    Just to prove that ugly cars are nothing new I ‘borrowed’ a few pics of cars that were greeted with horror by previous generations. Have they grown on you or are they still ugly.

    - ugly
    - ugly
    - ugly
    - ugly
    - not as ugly
    - ugly

    BBC are to show live streaming of their shows soon. Be able to watch F1 races now in deepest, darkest Britain. (Theres a joke here but I’m not gonna say it.)

    yay, if they show F1 that will be great (although i will probably still stick to watching the race on tv). The reason i say ‘if’ is because ITV have been offering a similar service this year, but only for some programs. It will probably be different cause it’s the bbc and they are so much better than ITV. :)

    Has anyone here posted their top 10 drivers yet?

    1. Alonso
    2. Massa
    3. Vettel
    4. Lewis
    5. Kubica
    6. Heidfeld
    7. Kimi
    8. Rubens
    9. Webber
    10.Rosberg

    The astronauts doing today’s spacewalk are being loaded into the airlock now so the spacewalk should start some time within the next hour.

    oh no i missed it :(

    I have a new definition for your dictionary
    yuk-er-roo, adjective to describe how bad the new front wing on the 2009 spec cars is

    haha :D

  83. November 21st, 2008 at 00:22 #83 - me said:

    Besides if you are struggling for something to say there are people like Scott and me who can talk all day and fill the space.

    even when the clocks ticking.

  84. November 21st, 2008 at 00:24 #84 - me said:

    1. Alonso
    2. Massa
    3. Vettel
    4. Lewis
    5. Kubica
    6. Heidfeld
    7. Kimi
    8. Rubens
    9. Webber
    10.Rosberg

    shurely shome mishtake?

  85. November 21st, 2008 at 00:30 #85 - lou said:

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already.

    if you’re short of people i’ll have another go (providing i make sure Skype is working ok)

    Look how nervous Lou was and how she thought she would struggle but she was really good. You should try it. It really is great fun. Besides if you are struggling for something to say there are people like Scott and me who can talk all day and fill the space.

    Tis true, i was very very nervous, but once the first question was out of the way, i started to settle down a bit. It’s really fun :) you should give it ago.

  86. November 21st, 2008 at 00:31 #86 - me said:

    if your short of people i’ll have another go (providing i make sure Skype is working ok)

    in that case, we are short of people :)

  87. November 21st, 2008 at 00:33 #87 - lou said:

    shurely shome mishtake?

    I’m lost… what have i done? *is very very tired after having had a very long day*

  88. November 21st, 2008 at 00:33 #88 - Dom said:

    Has anyone here posted their top 10 drivers yet?

    Erm… make this one provisional until I get the DVD.

    1. Alonso
    = Vettel
    3. Kubica
    4. Massa
    5. Hamilton
    6. Glock
    7. Raikkonen
    8. Barrichello
    9. Bourdais
    10. Trulli

  89. November 21st, 2008 at 00:34 #89 - lou said:

    in that case, we are short of people :)

    lol, will put my name on the wiki then

  90. November 21st, 2008 at 00:37 #90 - me said:

    I’m lost… what have i done?

    i was expecting to see certain someone listed somewhere. even if it was a token 10th.

  91. November 21st, 2008 at 00:39 #91 - Steven Roy said:

    me: 21/11/2008 at 00:22

    Besides if you are struggling for something to say there are people like Scott and me who can talk all day and fill the space.

    even when the clocks ticking.

    I notice the only people who were given the clock on Sunday were doctorvee and me. Anyone would think Christine was racist.

  92. November 21st, 2008 at 00:40 #92 - Steven Roy said:

    if your short of people i’ll have another go (providing i make sure Skype is working ok)

    That may encourage Kathi to have a go if she is not the only girl on the show.

  93. November 21st, 2008 at 00:41 #93 - Steven Roy said:

    i was expecting to see certain someone listed somewhere. even if it was a token 10th.

    I expected him to be in the top three with his team mate in 7th or 8th

  94. November 21st, 2008 at 00:42 #94 - Journeyer said:

    Hahaha! To be fair, for all her support for the man who’s not there, she’s a pretty objective evaluator.

  95. November 21st, 2008 at 00:43 #95 - lou said:

    i was expecting to see certain someone listed somewhere. even if it was a token 10th.

    oh lol… he’s still me fav driver… he just hasn’t done that great this year.. i was judging it on performance… lol if you asked me to judge them in terms of who i liked it would be a totally different story ;)

  96. November 21st, 2008 at 00:47 #96 - lou said:

    I expected him to be in the top three with his team mate in 7th or 8th

    lol if i was feeling more awake i might have slipped him in somewhere, but i thought i would be fair and not so biased today ;)

  97. November 21st, 2008 at 00:48 #97 - Dom said:

    i was expecting to see certain someone listed somewhere. even if it was a token 10th.

    Maybe he’d be on everyone’s list if it was a top 11? ;)

  98. November 21st, 2008 at 01:11 #98 - lou said:

    Maybe he’d be on everyone’s list if it was a top 11?

    lol most probably :)

    Anyway, i’m off to get some sleep. night all x

  99. November 21st, 2008 at 01:24 #99 - Jordan Allen (These new cars really do assault the eyes!) said:

    November 21st, 2008 at 12:41 amSteven Roy said:

    i was expecting to see certain someone listed somewhere. even if it was a token 10th.

    I expected him to be in the top three with his team mate in 7th or 8th

    November 21st, 2008 at 12:42 amJourneyer said:

    Hahaha! To be fair, for all her support for the man who’s not there, she’s a pretty objective evaluator.

    I am glad that I am not the only one schoked to see a certain someone of Lou’s top ten list. Considering that I factored in a baseline performance of how well the car should do before I start rating drivers, Lou would be happy to know that her certain someone made my top 10. My list is on tomorrow’s diary entry.

  100. November 21st, 2008 at 01:34 #100 - lou said:

    Considering that I factored in a baseline performance of how well the car should do before I start rating drivers, Lou would be happy to know that her certain someone made my top 10. My list is on tomorrow’s diary entry.

    *is not here as she should be asleep*

    i feel bad he isn’t in my list now… tbh I didn’t really think a lot about him when deciding, shows you how tired i am. i may have to correct the list in the morning in today’s thread…

  101. November 21st, 2008 at 09:22 #101 - Daily: 21st November 2008 | Sidepodcast : Your Weekly F1 Podcast said:

    [...] gave us all a challenge in yesterday’s comments, to list your top ten drivers for 2008. Ten is a lot, so think [...]

  102. November 21st, 2008 at 11:55 #102 - Alianora La Canta said:

    We seem to have a lack of volunteers for Sunday’s sidepod panel. People can’t be fed up with it already. Volunteers can sign up at the link below.

    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Next+Week%27s+Panellists {Steven Roy – 27 comments ago}

    If I could get my copy of Skype to acknowledge the internet, I’d sign up. Until then, I can’t :(

  103. November 21st, 2008 at 18:05 #103 - me said:

    If I could get my copy of Skype to acknowledge the internet, I’d sign up.

    i think we’ve said this before, but we are happy to phone you on a normal phone, be that mobly or landline.

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