Episode 90 – Anything Can Happen in the Next Half Hour
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Sidepodcast visits the inaugural F1 Bloggers & Friends Karting Championship in Birmingham, so join Christine as she guides you through all the action, and gets the inside scoop from participants.
Following a quick trip to the Autosport International trade show, Christine takes to the commentary box to provide some coverage of the first karting event, kindly organised by Alianora. Taking part alongside Alia and Mr C, Steven Roy, Andy Taylor, Stuart, Neil and Scott. It’s a fun filled ride through practice, the qualifying heats and the final race. Stay tuned to see who makes it to the podium.
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January 11th, 2009 at 21:23 #1 - Dom said:
This’ll make up for the live show no end.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:30 #2 - Dom said:
Haha! Christine’s a expert commentator!
January 11th, 2009 at 21:36 #3 - Alianora La Canta said:
Now that the podcast is up, I will reveal that the reason I had a >10 minute fastest lap in the final is because the kart to which the timer was attached was not the one in which I completed most of the race. In fact, I did not even complete a lap in it because it broke before that point.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:36 #4 - lou said:
are you going to have a celebration when you reach 100 debrief shows?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:37 #5 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Sidepodbirthdayparty?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:38 #6 - Alianora La Canta said:
By the way, Jackie asked Dad a question he couldn’t answer about who I was supporting.
The answer is: I’m supporting Force India, Fisichella and the British drivers (which means Hamilton and hopefully Button for 2009).
January 11th, 2009 at 21:38 #7 - Alianora La Canta said:
Sidepodaversary?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:38 #8 - Dom said:
Cupcakes all round!
January 11th, 2009 at 21:42 #9 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Someone
Any idea why this comes up on iTunes?
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/prob-jpg
January 11th, 2009 at 21:43 #10 - Dom said:
“Mr C is shaking his head, taking his gloves off in disgust, sighing, and I’m chuckling at him”
January 11th, 2009 at 21:44 #11 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Ahaha. Genius, love it.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:44 #12 - Christine said:
There’s an error in the feed. Two seconds, and we’ll fix it.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:45 #13 - Scott Woodwiss said:
If I’d have been there, you know I would have been up for commentating
January 11th, 2009 at 21:45 #14 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Cheers
January 11th, 2009 at 21:45 #15 - me said:
how did it break?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:46 #16 - Christine said:
Should be okay now.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:47 #17 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Intrested in if its any
‘And Alianora wins the race, Mr C needs 3rd to win the championship, but he is in fourth, and doesn’t look like getting it. Oh hold on, IS THAT STEVEN? MR C WINS! Un-ber-lee-vable’
January 11th, 2009 at 21:48 #18 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Aye, is all good. Thanks
January 11th, 2009 at 21:48 #19 - Scott Woodwiss said:
You’re interested in my commentating skills?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:48 #20 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
Oh come on Mr C! I was merely defending my line.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:50 #21 - Christine said:
He got a bit carried away, I reckon. Thought he was talking to Louise Goodman.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:50 #22 - Dom said:
Christine must commentate on a Grand Prix some time.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:52 #23 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
No, I haven’t listend to it yet. Merely predicting the commentry.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:52 #24 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Ooh right
January 11th, 2009 at 21:52 #25 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
Or Ms Williams?
January 11th, 2009 at 21:52 #26 - Christine said:
In his dreams
January 11th, 2009 at 21:52 #27 - Alianora La Canta said:
how did it break? {me – 3 comments ago}
I was involved in a collision on the first corner. I thought nothing of it until the second corner, when I tried turning left and nothing happened. I panicked and ended up spinning.
Then I went to the next corner, started sliding… …and watched it turn into a spin as opposite-locking left didn’t work. Braking didn’t work either, so I had to rely on the barrier stopping me. This was when I worked out that this was more than inept driving at work.
I explained matters to the marshal who pushed me out of the wall and then slowly drove back to the pits, spinning at the left-hand turn preceding the pit lane despite my slow pace because left wouldn’t kick in. Somehow I managed to get down the pitlane and went to the end of the pit garage.
Then I explained matters to the pit lane mechanic, who decided to let me re-join in another kart since I hadn’t even completed a whole lap by that point. I returned to the track four laps down, but at least I was in a kart that worked…
January 11th, 2009 at 21:53 #28 - R.G (Mr C was robbed) said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
January 11th, 2009 at 21:55 #29 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
LIke the comments from the race director. He belatedly told me I wasn’t bad just as we were leaving the venue. I think I’d have preferred if he had said nothing.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:09 #30 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
I’ve also just remembered that karting in the heat of summer is hot and sweaty, I think I prefer (just) the cold.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:10 #31 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Are you guys gonna be doing something like this later on this year?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:12 #32 - me said:
hopefully, that was fun.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:13 #33 - Andy Taylor said:
Absolutely
January 11th, 2009 at 22:14 #34 - R.G (Je ne peux pas aller dormir, pourquoi, pourquoi, pourquoi ?) said:
Junior karting at Newcastle?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:14 #35 - lou said:
can i come and watch?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:15 #36 - Jon Waldock said:
if theres a central venue that we can all get to then im definitely in. gutted i missed it!!
January 11th, 2009 at 22:19 #37 - Andy Taylor said:
Birmingham is pretty central for England. There’s a great track near me in Milton Keynes too, outdoors with proper twin engined karts. I’m pretty useless with those too.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:20 #38 - Jon Waldock said:
lets go there then
January 11th, 2009 at 22:26 #39 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
Bah. My problem is consistency, that and the fact that for my last heat I had a kart with no grip at all. I later found out it had different tyres on to most of the others. Damn, now I sound like Jenson.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:28 #40 - Scott Woodwiss said:
What’s the track called?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:29 #41 - Jon Waldock said:
indoors at my local im very consistent, its outdoors i have hte problem. if its dry outdoors im fine usually, but if its greasy they almost never have slicks, so i usually end up in the barriers quickly
January 11th, 2009 at 22:31 #42 - Andy Taylor said:
It’s Daytona Racing. http://www.daytona.co.uk/venues/miltonkeynes/index.html
January 11th, 2009 at 22:39 #43 - Dank said:
If the next karting event is held there on the International Track I am definitely going! It’s 1.5km long and unbelievable to drive on.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:40 #44 - Jon Waldock said:
for an event like was done yesterday we’d need a min of 20 people to use that circuit
January 11th, 2009 at 22:44 #45 - Le Wombat du Sebastian said:
Sounds like you guys were having good fun. Amusing.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:44 #46 - Andy Taylor said:
You can book in as a group to the open races, so that would be an alternative option.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:45 #47 - Jon Waldock said:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mBJ4V3lnOPA
thats the track minus lewyy
January 11th, 2009 at 22:46 #48 - Christine said:
i think there was to start with, then loadsa people dropped out as the event got closer. the trick is getting people to commit and stay committed.
i’ve no idea if alia lost out as a result of anyone bailing, but if so, please let us know and we’ll see if we can help out. in future there probably needs to be some kind of non-refundable deposit or something.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:46 #49 - me said:
bugger, that was me!
January 11th, 2009 at 22:51 #50 - Dank said:
It’s amazing to drive on. Bit of an endurance, but going along the back-straight with rain splashing on your visor doing 60mph is something I won’t be forgetting in a hurry!
January 11th, 2009 at 22:51 #51 - Andy Taylor said:
Good isn’t it?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:52 #52 - Jon Waldock said:
rattles the old bones on someone as skinny as me!! i wont forget those bruises in a while lol
January 11th, 2009 at 22:55 #53 - me said:
yay
January 11th, 2009 at 22:56 #54 - Dank said:
Oh yes. Heck, I want to go back pronto!
Did me as well! Was like sitting on top of a washing machine mid-cycle! The first time I did it, I didn’t realise that there was a turn so close to the top of the straight which was on a slight incline.
A few expletives came out I can assure you!
January 11th, 2009 at 22:56 #55 - Alianora La Canta said:
LIke the comments from the race director. He belatedly told me I wasn’t bad just as we were leaving the venue. I think I’d have preferred if he had said nothing. {Andy Taylor – 20 comments ago}
He told me I wasn’t bad even after I managed to spin several times in the same heat. At least he was honest enough to add that my main fault was inconsistency…
Seriously, I think he was trying to make sure nobody’s spirits dropped so low that they walked out or started driving in a sulk (which is usually slow, barrier-whomping, or both). With people like us who were too motivated by the presence of our friends to do either, he had an easier job than he expected
Also, he told me that when he started, he was doing 45 second laps round the place, so the fact that everyone was sub-30 seconds despite none of us having seen this track before (as far as I know) probably gave him more faith in us than we had in ourselves.
January 11th, 2009 at 22:58 #56 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Is that track near Goodwood?
January 11th, 2009 at 22:58 #57 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
There are more pics here:
http://flickr.com/photos/wdaviesuk/
January 11th, 2009 at 22:58 #58 - Jon Waldock said:
theres no works to explain what its like the first time you lock up and are going head first into a barrier and cant do anything to stop it. usually i can get myself to go in sideways but it hurtssssss
January 11th, 2009 at 23:00 #59 - Jon Waldock said:
words
January 11th, 2009 at 23:08 #60 - me said:
christine has banned me from driving at the next one, apparently i’m on commentating duties only, given my injuries have totally screwed up the rest of plans this weekend.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:09 #61 - Scott Woodwiss said:
THERE HE IS!
http://flickr.com/photos/wdaviesuk/3188398756/
January 11th, 2009 at 23:10 #62 - Andy Taylor said:
I think she’s more concerned about having to commentate on her own rather than with your injuries.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:10 #63 - Jon Waldock said:
indoor tracks can tend to be more painful because the barriers are so close and the low grip…just keep telling her that and it’ll work….
January 11th, 2009 at 23:11 #64 - me said:
cheers andy. you’ll never win another panel again
January 11th, 2009 at 23:11 #65 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Oops, I may have just landed him in it. Sorry Andy.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:12 #66 - Jon Waldock said:
aaah noo!!! now its all ruined!!
January 11th, 2009 at 23:12 #67 - me said:
it was his choice to share the link.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:13 #68 - me said:
i’m not sure i fancy driving one again either though.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:13 #69 - Andy Taylor said:
Um, that’s not my picture, as you can plainly see I am standing next to Christine, no sign of a camera in my hand.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:13 #70 - me said:
i didn’t say it was.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:13 #71 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I guess. But your identity is still sort of a mystery. Your real name is still a well-kept secret, Mr C
January 11th, 2009 at 23:14 #72 - me said:
i give andy 5 minutes.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:14 #73 - Scott Woodwiss said:
January 11th, 2009 at 23:14 #74 - me said:
totally. ahh well, it was a fun two years.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:14 #75 - Andy Taylor said:
I honestly didn’t see that particular shot. Damn, and it was going so well too. Sorry.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:14 #76 - me said:
January 11th, 2009 at 23:15 #77 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I guess it’s my fault as well for pointing it out. Soz everyone.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:15 #78 - Alenyaa said:
Wow, it was such great fun to listen to Christine commentating the race.
If only Birmingham were nearer to Antwerp
Although I will try and see if I can make it next year, I promise
I’m glad you all had fun and next time we expect Christine to participate!
January 11th, 2009 at 23:17 #79 - me said:
you not a fan of her commentating then?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:17 #80 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
No, It’s Steven Roy’s fault – he’s the moderator on the other site that I found the link on.
Mr C – looks like your real name is safe as there are no shots of the timing screens on Flickr.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:18 #81 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I was gonna suggest that but I already had the kinda predictable answer in my head already.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:19 #82 - Alenyaa said:
Haha, of course I am. She did a superb job, I loved the driver interviews.
Just like the real deal
January 11th, 2009 at 23:19 #83 - Alianora La Canta said:
i’ve no idea if alia lost out as a result of anyone bailing, but if so, please let us know and we’ll see if we can help out. in future there probably needs to be some kind of non-refundable deposit or something. {Christine – 9 comments ago}
Thank you very much for the kind offer. However, I didn’t lose out by an amount worth complaining about because nearly all the karters who dropped out paid their first instalment before doing so, and none of them asked for their money back (in fact the two who I asked if they wanted their money back because they had what to me seemed excellent unforeseen reasons for doing so refused to have the deposit returned). The others bailed before paying the deposit. Since the spectators weren’t charged anyway (because the minimum spend from the karters was high enough that their facilities were free), I didn’t lose out finance-wise from the non-arrival of most of them (I was expecting more like one spectator per karter, rather than the four that were actually there).
It’s also complicated by the fact we got special considerations from the organisers on the account that we had paid for more karters than actually arrived. It may not have looked like much on the surface, but the extra lappery would have cost me £15 extra per karter had I requested it when booking.
Better planning would help in future, as would getting the exact numbers confirmed at least 6 weeks in advance (Teamworks need final confirmation of numbers, plus the balance of payment, one calender month before the event).
January 11th, 2009 at 23:20 #84 - Dom said:
I’m confused. Whose photo is it?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:20 #85 - Alenyaa said:
Well, never say never. It’s a strange world out there
January 11th, 2009 at 23:22 #86 - Alianora La Canta said:
theres no works to explain what its like the first time you lock up and are going head first into a barrier and cant do anything to stop it. {Jon Waldock}
My words the first time I did it were “Whoops! Now where’s reverse on this thing? Oh wait a minute, I’m supposed to hit brake, aren’t I?”
January 11th, 2009 at 23:22 #87 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Meanwhile I’m debating whether when we do this again if I commentate or race, unless there’s a chance to do both
If I was to come, would you guys mind my dad coming along too? I’m sure he’d be up for some karting, seeing as he is kind of an ex-racing driver and all
January 11th, 2009 at 23:22 #88 - me said:
very glad to hear that, i’ll sleep easy then.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:22 #89 - me said:
i see no photo… what photo?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:23 #90 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I think he means the photo of you. He’s wondering who took it.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:23 #91 - Jon Waldock said:
photo, who said anything about a photo? i cant see anything in the comments about one…
January 11th, 2009 at 23:24 #92 - lou said:
eeek
well not everyone knows. just the people here atm
January 11th, 2009 at 23:24 #93 - me said:
me neither? anyhow, who’s got some f1 news?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:25 #94 - Jon Waldock said:
apparently honda have gone bust, its been kept very quiet….oh and apparently Red Bull has changed its name to “We love Sebastians”
January 11th, 2009 at 23:26 #95 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I do, I do!
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/01/11/dennis-voices-donington-doubts/
Big Ron giving his thoughts on Donington there.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:26 #96 - lou said:
haha,
January 11th, 2009 at 23:26 #97 - Jeremy said:
Are there any car launches today?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:26 #98 - Scott Woodwiss said:
OOH, Isn’t it Ferrari’s?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:27 #99 - me said:
yup, ferrari.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:27 #100 - lou said:
not today, tomorrow
it’s only 11:30 
January 11th, 2009 at 23:27 #101 - Jon Waldock said:
amazing quote from ron dennis….
Q (from the audience). You’ve come over as a person of great personal integrity over the past year. Have you got any tips for people about that?
RD: I am just Ron, to everybody. I can’t be familiar and call you by your first name, but whatever your first name, we all have first names. We all have the same strengths and weaknesses as humans. Some people are very complimentary of the fact that I am self made. To me, the best thing about being self-made is that you have actually started your life in business with your values, and you grow on your values and you build a company on your values.
When you look in the mirror in the morning, what is looking back is the truth because you cannot hide from the truth. You can try and compartmentalise it, but you cannot hide from it. The truth is the truth.
So when you are tested against your values, the test is not just a public one. And as some of you have read, I am going through another one at the moment which is very challenging because it is a test that has its routes in freedom of speech and the protection a process gives you.
In this case, it is a legal process where someone can say anything they want about you and you have no mechanism other than to wait and to hope that the very people who have read about what you are supposed to have done and haven’t done, are the same people who are going to give you the opportunity to speak the truth. This is what life is about.
In the end everything is a test. The thing when people say, ‘What did you see in Lewis?’, what I saw in Lewis was the focus, the commitment, dedication, confidence without arrogance, and also the ingredient that manifested itself over time, which is the ability to make sacrifice. To achieve in life you have to make sacrifice, and sacrifice in everybody’s life comes in different forms.
So when you are tested on your values, you just have to call on the fundamental principles by which you have been brought up to believe in. In the end whatever the price, whatever the price, you have to be prepared to pay it.
Our company suffered a phenomenal fiscal penalty that would normally bring any organisation of our size to its knees, but in the end the one thing that came out – and we are not judging ourselves but we are judged by those people who really immersed themselves in the situation and really analysed everything about it, I believe the company emerged with its integrity, and I emerged with my integrity, and to me that is a priceless thing. Priceless.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:27 #102 - Alianora La Canta said:
christine has banned me from driving at the next one, apparently i’m on commentating duties only, given my injuries have totally screwed up the rest of plans this weekend. {me – 19 comments ago}
Oh no! Can you possibly get the decision reversed, or at the least get Christine to drive so that she can see why you got the bruises?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:28 #103 - Dank said:
Murray Walker changed his mind today when asked by Henry Hope-Frost on the Autosport stand as to who he thinks will win the WDC this year.
Yesterday it was Kubica. Today, it as Vettel.
How. I. Wish.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:29 #104 - Scott Woodwiss said:
http://motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=316388&FS=F1
Nice to see F1 getting more involved in schools. Shame to see why it isn’t.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:29 #105 - me said:
haha. i think she has a pretty good idea. it’s totally messed up our plans today though. i might make a great commentator though.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:30 #106 - me said:
do you think he meant kubica though? cause that’s a hell of a step up from a man who just won his first race.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:30 #107 - Jeremy said:
Not in Australia! Ferrari should really work on my time shouldn’t they?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:30 #108 - Jon Waldock said:
kubica only just won his first race too….
January 11th, 2009 at 23:31 #109 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Ooh, I’m on fire with the news today!
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090111153745.shtml
Looks like Force India are going down the “Launch late to develop the car as much as possible in the factory” route.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:31 #110 - me said:
true. hadn’t thought of that.
the car looked more like championship material than the rbr though, and kubica was in until almost the end.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:31 #111 - Dank said:
I think Murray got a bit bored with being asked the same questions four days in a row to be honest. He kept turning all the questions around and was actually interviewing the interviewer at one point!
January 11th, 2009 at 23:32 #112 - lou said:
Kinda f1 related news – apparently some guy called Franck Montangy has been at autosport international talking about lots of interesting stuff
http://iheartfranck.com/
January 11th, 2009 at 23:32 #113 - Dom said:
I wonder who it’ll be by the time the season starts…
January 11th, 2009 at 23:32 #114 - me said:
hehe. the man is a legend, he jsut can’t help himself.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:33 #115 - lou said:
Jenson
January 11th, 2009 at 23:33 #116 - me said:
January 11th, 2009 at 23:34 #117 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Who’s that then?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:36 #118 - Wayne said:
It’s my photo (Slugger on gpwizard.co.uk) and I have one of the timing screen I can upload to flickr if you guys would like
Was a fun night even though I wasn’t driving. Hopefully next time…
January 11th, 2009 at 23:37 #119 - Jon Waldock said:
i am ashamed to say that i was very dissapointed not to see him there today…
January 11th, 2009 at 23:38 #120 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I think it’s best if you don’t.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:38 #121 - Alianora La Canta said:
If I was to come, would you guys mind my dad coming along too? I’m sure he’d be up for some karting, seeing as he is kind of an ex-racing driver and all {Scott Woodwiss – 12 comments ago}
Yes, yes, yes please do invite him! If he wants to come, then we’ll be delighted to have him. My Dad has told me he’s going to try and get into next year’s contest as well (he didn’t quite fit the contractual requirements this time).
January 11th, 2009 at 23:38 #122 - me said:
yeah, it was only gonna be friday and saturday. if murray was already fed up of the questions, it’s probably best that way.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:38 #123 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Wayne – I suggest you don’t upload that timing screen pic, unless you want to get yourself into a whole load of trouble.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:39 #124 - Jeremy said:
Just some guy who needs a haircut, shave and bath.
(Please don’t ban me!)
January 11th, 2009 at 23:39 #125 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
Says the man who pointed out the photo…..
January 11th, 2009 at 23:40 #126 - me said:
ouch!
January 11th, 2009 at 23:40 #127 - me said:
probably best if i stay indoors for future events methinks.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:40 #128 - Dom said:
All my hopes rest on Murray.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:41 #129 - Jon Waldock said:
the karting was indoors
January 11th, 2009 at 23:41 #130 - Scott Woodwiss said:
You said it wasn’t my fault!
January 11th, 2009 at 23:41 #131 - Dom said:
You were indoors?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:41 #132 - me said:
true.
best if stay in the studio, locked away?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:42 #133 - Dom said:
We know how to deal with these things on sidepodcast.
I blame Steven.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:43 #134 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
I already did.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:43 #135 - Jeremy said:
Australia or bust I say
January 11th, 2009 at 23:43 #136 - Alianora La Canta said:
He kept turning all the questions around and was actually interviewing the interviewer at one point! {Dank – 10 comments ago}
I remember that. I thought it was hilarious
January 11th, 2009 at 23:44 #137 - Dom said:
I have a better idea.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:44 #138 - lou said:
there are other options..
1) wear the panda suit
2) wear a helmet like the stig does
3) wear some other mask
4) keep your camera constantly up to your eye as if you were taking a photo
5) dress up as a ghost by wearing a sheet like you would if you were about 5 and dressing up for Halloween
January 11th, 2009 at 23:45 #139 - me said:
hehe. am gonna struggle to commentate in that.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:46 #140 - Alianora La Canta said:
You were indoors? {Dom – 6 comments ago}
Yes, it was indoors. But that patio heater was the only source of heating in the room. And the room contained a 750m track and a café area. And it was not exactly as if the outside temperature was much good.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:46 #141 - Dom said:
Perhaps, but that wont stop me linking to it.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:47 #142 - me said:
all good ideas, however:
1) in a kart?
2) way too hot (no idea how he does that for so long)
3) phantom of the opera?
4) possibly
5) in july?
my original option is cheaper and safer though. i hereby decree we shall only sidepodtour alone in future.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:48 #143 - Jeremy said:
NDA anyone?
January 11th, 2009 at 23:51 #144 - Jon Waldock said:
i presume you dont mean this….http://www.nda.gov.uk/
January 11th, 2009 at 23:51 #145 - lou said:
well there is always the conventional paper bag on the head?
maybe even a surgical mask. 
either that or get yourself a mask… not quiet phantom of the opera, cause it would cover the whole of your face
hmm not sure we can get karts into a studio and have a race. but if you want to try
unless your thinking some sort of in the studio commentating on a live stream from the event? and Christine would be the pit lane reporter? 
January 11th, 2009 at 23:52 #146 - me said:
ahh, now you’re talking.
January 11th, 2009 at 23:53 #147 - lou said:
personally i think that you would only do that once, and then your competitive spirit would get too much
January 11th, 2009 at 23:54 #148 - lou said:
plus you would never see Ms Williams, or VBH again
January 11th, 2009 at 23:56 #149 - me said:
true. maybe we’ll go but pretend not too.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:01 #150 - Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time... said:
That would work once or twice, but you’d either have to podcast about not going to the event or go without telling anyone and then do a podcast about something completely different.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:02 #151 - littlepurplegoth said:
What about just getting a ‘could be him’ alike… Put them in your ‘habitual’ outfit and give them a mic and camera, and then you could wander to your hearts content…
… or you could just go with the Michael Jackson option… just no baby dangling, OK?
January 12th, 2009 at 00:03 #152 - me said:
all sounds very complicated.
much better to say “we not going to the BGP this year”, not meet anyone and then do a podcast when we get home.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:05 #153 - lou said:
well, Jenson managed to walk round Goodwood on the Saturday with only about 5 people noticing him, so i think that’s doable.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:06 #154 - me said:
it might just be simpler to send christine on her own.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:06 #155 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
The third option is not to go at all, but pretend you did go and make up the podcast.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:07 #156 - lou said:
Well i suppose we could all have a big meet up so that Christine wasn’t lonely walking round goodwood on her own, but then you would miss out
January 12th, 2009 at 00:07 #157 - Alianora La Canta said:
How about using aliases and subtle disguise combinations? Even if we recognise you, then we won’t know for sure if it’s you (unless you make it obvious you are Christine’s husband in some way).
January 12th, 2009 at 00:08 #158 - me said:
but i’d still get pics of vb-h, no one would see me and i wouldn’t get bruising. seems like a no brainer to me.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:10 #159 - me said:
so… i send christine to goodwood by herself and then wander around by myself?
we’d certainly cover a lot of ground that way.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:13 #160 - Alianora La Canta said:
You could do that, or you could use the disguise/alias combination so Christine could pretend you was a friend. Or a relative. Or a bloke who happened to hear Christine talking and wondered why she was doing it (which could be easily dovetailed into you wandering off at times to look at other things).
January 12th, 2009 at 00:14 #161 - littlepurplegoth said:
Or just go anyway, remember not to answer to your own name or Me, and be sure that Christine is seen with a variety of other people over the weekend.
(or grit teeth, get on with it, and just expect not to be memorable… that one works!!)
January 12th, 2009 at 00:16 #162 - me said:
it’s gonna be hard keeping up that pretence for 3 days at silverstone though.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:20 #163 - me said:
right now i’m thinking the show needs to be more about christine, much like f1 minute. clearly i’ve become too visible and wasn’t the plan and still isn’t the plan.
videos are fine because i’m not in them, diaries are especially good. i have to feature less on audio shows though. probably starting next week.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:22 #164 - Dom said:
That means I’ll be looking for you even if you say your not going now.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:23 #165 - Dom said:
Does this mean you’ll be answering each topic with one word?
Or would that be so funny everyone would forget what Christine said?
January 12th, 2009 at 00:24 #166 - Steven Roy said:
You can get in and race.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:25 #167 - Steven Roy said:
MK is 360 miles away. That barely makes it central between me and Paris.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:25 #168 - me said:
this isn’t working at all
January 12th, 2009 at 00:27 #169 - me said:
damn. probably that too. we need more christine.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:27 #170 - Steven Roy said:
you can’t have twin engined karts on a track like that if we are going to have novice karters involved much as it appeals.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:28 #171 - lou said:
haha me? don’t make me laugh.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:28 #172 - Andy Taylor said:
That’s what I drove on my first visit there.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:29 #173 - Alianora La Canta said:
videos are fine because i’m not in them, diaries are especially good. i have to feature less on audio shows though. probably starting next week. {me – 7 comments ago}
Have you considered a voice distorter? Or typing your answers and getting a text-to-speech translator to talk for you (preferably one of the Apple/third-party software defaults)?
January 12th, 2009 at 00:30 #174 - Andy Taylor said:
I’ve just checked to make sure and it was definitely the twin engine karts – I’d have remembered the offset driving position of the single engine.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:31 #175 - me said:
the apple guy already does our jingles. that might get confusing.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:31 #176 - Andy Taylor said:
Then everyone would think Christine was podcasting with Prof Stephen Hawking
January 12th, 2009 at 00:31 #177 - Alianora La Canta said:
can i come and watch? {lou}
If I organise a kart race, you are welcome to watch and/or race as you like
January 12th, 2009 at 00:32 #178 - Alianora La Canta said:
haha me? don’t make me laugh. {lou – 7 comments ago}
I bet you’d be no worse than I was at the start of the evening…
January 12th, 2009 at 00:33 #179 - Steven Roy said:
The thing is if we have more people there will be more not karting at any one time so more people who can help with the commentary. If you are doing 3 heats then have one off then have to do another 2 the last thing you want to do in the break is help with the commentary.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:34 #180 - Steven Roy said:
You will want to once the aches and pains die down.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:35 #181 - lou said:
i bet i would be
January 12th, 2009 at 00:37 #182 - Steven Roy said:
I e-mailed the link earlier to Christine so that people would some of the photos but not the incriminating ones. I also used my vast powers for about the 4th time in 6 months to remove Mr C’s real name feom a post Scott had made then I come here and get the blame for revealing his identity.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:38 #183 - Alianora La Canta said:
Have you heard the commentary yet? And if you have, note that Christine missed at least one of my spins. That was just the spins, never mind the lousy lines and total inability to sense where karters behind me were. My “defensive driving” was basically a combination of not knowing when someone was behind me and having a different line into every corner.
I was like Felipe Massa used to be at the start of his career, only I don’t have a Ferrari “finishing school” to attend next to pass beyond that stage.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:39 #184 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
Sorry Steven, it was my fault really, I stupidly didn’t check all the photos before posting the link.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:39 #185 - Steven Roy said:
In future get everyone to pay the full amount rather than a deposit. No-one will mind doing that and anyone who hasn’t paid before the cut off date loses out.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:39 #186 - me said:
ahh, she was using my mac this evening, didn’t get the email. thanks for trying.
4th time in 6months tho?
January 12th, 2009 at 00:40 #187 - Andy Taylor (Mr C's real name is) said:
I agree, makes things easier on the day too.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:40 #188 - me said:
agreed. good plan.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:42 #189 - me said:
tis fine. if anything it brings home that this isn’t what i want to be doing and as much fun as these things are, i’m just gonna keep outta the way in future methinks.
makes everybody’s life that much easier.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:44 #190 - lou said:
January 12th, 2009 at 00:46 #191 - Jackie said:
I have to say I’m disappointed that someone blew someone’s cover .. can’t you just hide that photo from the stream?
January 12th, 2009 at 00:49 #192 - me said:
it’s not our stream sadly. plus it’s out there now.
to an extent it was expected, if only because people not familiar with spc were in attendance.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:58 #193 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Sorry? I think you need to check your facts Steven because I have no idea what Mr C’s real name is at all. Unless you mean the Scott who was at the karting event, in which case carry on.
January 12th, 2009 at 00:58 #194 - littlepurplegoth said:
Joining Lou in the
Seriously, its perfectly possible to participate and still be the ‘behind the scenes’ type… heck, its why I always did radio and ran away from the cameras…
So just lay low for a bit… and let it all blow over and become yesterdays story by the time the whole season begins.
I’m kind of sorry I mithered Andy into taking pics now though, I’m just terminally nosey when it comes to voices to faces. And, for what its worth, you don’t look like your voice (imo) which is likely to help the whole ’staying in the background’ thing too…
January 12th, 2009 at 01:00 #195 - me said:
don’t worry ’bout it. it’s good to focus the mind sometimes, and every picture he uploaded was just dandy
January 12th, 2009 at 01:01 #196 - lou said:
i agree with LPG.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:02 #197 - Scott Woodwiss said:
One thing you could stipulate in future is if people are going to take pics, can they be extra careful to make sure none of them feature you.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:04 #198 - Steven Roy said:
The first time I drove one of those I got a whole quiz on what I had driven before. Bear in mind someone like Alianora for example doesn’t have a driving license so you are not just talking about a track nvide you are talking about a completely novice driver. For me twin engined karts are just to fast unless people have some experience.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:08 #199 - Steven Roy said:
I had no idea when or where anyone was behind me. I saw one photo where I am looking over my shoulder checking to see if anyone is there. I think a ot of the spins especially at the end of the straight wre caused by the motor cutting in as soon as you come off the brake and the surface at the approach to the apex being like rutted ice. I started off trying to brake into the apex which is a stupid thing to do with a kart any way and ended up braking very early and very lightly on the straight where there was some grip and turning in on the power which you are meant to do on a kart anyway.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:08 #200 - lou said:
or simply ask them not to put them up online, i’m sure anyone would be perfectly happy not to, whether or not they were familiar with spc.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:09 #201 - Steven Roy said:
The GP Wizard guys didn’t know about the anonimity until I told them tonight. Never crossed my mind.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:10 #202 - Steven Roy said:
Is the anonimity really that important?
January 12th, 2009 at 01:11 #203 - Scott Woodwiss said:
Unless you’re familiar with SPC in which case leave the ones which do somehow include Mr C on your camera. I’d have no problem with that at all.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:12 #204 - Steven Roy said:
I have no powers at all here whereas I am a moderator at GP Wizard so I was talking about that Scott. The interesting thing is the Wiz himself has a similar widh for anonimity so if anyone posts his name on that site we edit it. There seems something odd about people putting up websites who want to be anonymous but if that is what they want so be it.
January 12th, 2009 at 01:13 #205 - me said:
i dunno really. came as a bit of a shock seeing myself on the web like that. not something i’m comfortable with by any stretch.
January 12th, 2009 at 02:53 #206 - Jeremy said:
I’d be very disappointed if you cut back. Sidepodcast is the Mr and Mrs C team. You have a fantastic voice and your presence adds something special.
I’m a huge fan of the content you both produce (as I’m sure all the comment leavers are) and find it hard to be objective (I heart Sidepodcast!) but I don’t think you should change what you are doing now.
January 12th, 2009 at 03:00 #207 - Jeremy said:
At least your namesake isn’t on a Wheaties box for being an Inspirational Athlete at the Special Olympics!
Actually, I can’t really know that for sure can I?
January 12th, 2009 at 09:54 #208 - Alianora La Canta said:
In future get everyone to pay the full amount rather than a deposit. No-one will mind doing that and anyone who hasn’t paid before the cut off date loses out. {Steven Roy – 23 comments ago}
Thank you for the advice. I will follow it in future. If nothing else, it will make my record-keeping much easier!
January 12th, 2009 at 13:10 #209 - Scott Woodwiss said:
I think to be honest it’s obvious this whole thing bothers you quite a bit. But at the end of the day, you shouldn’t let it. Best thing to do is try and forget about it and carry on as normal.
To be honest, I only spotted who which one you were by looking at the photos and piecing everything together. As I’ve mentioned, I feel I need to take some of the blame for pointing the picture out, and I gravely apologise for it. Sure, I can fully understand you want to keep yourself anonymous and I respect for it. But I think apart from the real regulars like myself and Steven and Lou, etc, you are still as anonymous as you were before. Those who don’t come here as often as us lot do will probably miss this post and whole issue and still won’t know what you look like.
I hope you understand what I’m trying to say even though it looks confusing. For one, even if I did know your real name, I still wouldn’t reveal it out of respect for yourself. I say we forget this incident with the pictures and however difficult it may be, carry on as we were before.
January 12th, 2009 at 14:17 #210 - Alex Andronov said:
Right now that we know Mr C is very tall and sounds like Stephen Merchant. I think he must be Stephen Merchant. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
January 12th, 2009 at 14:47 #211 - Alex Andronov said:
About the picture. Sorry to hear about that Me. I really hope you don’t pull back too much. I think the show really is a double hander now and I think that’s a great thing. Just as Christine wanted you to help with the commentating I think you need to provide the counter balance. And a large amount of the comedy comes from the balance between the two of you.
January 12th, 2009 at 14:57 #212 - me said:
having slept on it. i’m surprised how disturbing i found seeing myself online. i’ve also been reading the trouble i’ve been causing steven on his site, and the conclusion is, this is way too much hassle.
therefore, the best thing i can do is not attend events, alternately attend anonymously and then podcast about them later.
there’s no reason why we can’t go to goodwood then take people’s thoughts about it via phone later. i’m gonna need a new hat though.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:04 #213 - Alex Andronov said:
Obviously I’m disappointed as I may have missed the chance to meet you because of this weekend away that I had to go to. Grr!
It’s kind of strange to me that you are so not happy being seen online.
But I’d rather have you happy and comfortable and fully on the podcast than withdrawing totally.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:08 #214 - me said:
thing is. no-one ever takes pictures of me. i don’t let christine, and in fact one of the reasons i didn’t apply for press access for autosport was they wanted a passport photo. i guess i’m just odd.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:12 #215 - Alex Andronov said:
Sounds like it
Shame!
Obviously you must have a passport for the whole wedding thing.
By the way that whole aboriginal thing about photographs stealing your soul turns out to not really be true
January 12th, 2009 at 15:13 #216 - Christine said:
Don’t get me started on the battle to actually have wedding photos.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:15 #217 - me said:
ahhh, the hassle. never again
January 12th, 2009 at 15:17 #218 - Alex Andronov said:
Did you actually have some then?
Never again? Not even for the renewal of your wedding vows at the Williams Center next year?
January 12th, 2009 at 15:22 #219 - me said:
not if i have to sit in the silly passport booth again, and not unless i’m the cameraman, no.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:26 #220 - Alex Andronov said:
Well fair enough then
What you need to find is some kind of way of broadcasting your voice on the internet. You could name it after this site. Obviously the Sidepods are quite specific about formula one but what about podcast? THAT could work it’s more general. That way you could take over the internet one listener at a time!
Of course it means another technological revolution for the sidepodlist!
January 12th, 2009 at 15:29 #221 - me said:
January 12th, 2009 at 15:38 #222 - Alex Andronov said:
ps. I have added Sidepodlist to the dictionary.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:48 #223 - Steven Roy said:
Now his name is out there is well. Bad week for anonymity
January 12th, 2009 at 15:51 #224 - Christine said:
I’m not sure Stephen Merchant would be allowed to moonlight on another podcast.
January 12th, 2009 at 15:51 #225 - me said:
January 12th, 2009 at 15:56 #226 - Steven Roy said:
You haven’t caused me any trouble. I made a couple of posts explaing like GP Wiz himself you don’t want your name in the public domain.
You can’t not do the things you want to do. While I know you didn’t want your face and name revealed you can’t tell me that you did not thoroughly enjoy yourself karting or meeting Lou at Goodwood.
Also I agree with Alex’s comments. You should not cut back your contribution in any of the shows. You and Christine have a very good double act and on the live shows whether it was intentional or not you provide the link between Christine and the rest of us.
For every person who will recognise you there are several who will recognise Christine and put 2 and 2 together. Also you have a distinctive voice and laugh so unless you plan to spend the rest of your life in silence 100 yards from Christine you are condemned never to leave sidepodcast towers again. Besides I want to beat you fair and square in a kart race with a decent timing/scoring system in the future.
January 12th, 2009 at 16:02 #227 - me said:
i guess that’s true. i have a nice view from my window though
you managed to beat me fair and square already. by being faster into the corners, faster out of the corners, faster on the pedals, and faster over the bumps. there isn’t a timing glitch in the word that’ll save me now
January 12th, 2009 at 16:07 #228 - Steven Roy said:
i still think you beat me and I finished 4th not 3rd.
January 12th, 2009 at 16:08 #229 - me said:
i’m so glad you took the podium though
January 12th, 2009 at 16:09 #230 - Jon Waldock said:
if you put a ferrari logo on you then the fia timing system would sort you out
January 12th, 2009 at 16:10 #231 - Steven Roy said:
I suppose being anonymous on a podium is difficult.
January 12th, 2009 at 16:14 #232 - Alex Andronov said:
I was surprised that Bernie went for LG for sponsoring the live timing. Apparently Ferrari wanted to sponsor the live timing this year and they submitted the timing for the 2009 season back in November. They only decided to let it go to LG when LG said that they wouldn’t change it from the Ferrari version
January 12th, 2009 at 21:05 #233 - Alenyaa said:
Hey everyone.
I’ve just been reading through the comments and I’m sorry to hear Mr C’s anonymity has been breached.
But on the other hand I suppose this is not an issue that will last very long out there and will quickly be forgotten by anyone that has little or nothing at all to do with SPC.
I have to echo the other posters in that it would be a very sad thing if Mr C were to diminish his contribution to the show.
I know the podcast is supposed to be all Christine and by no means do I want to meddle with your affairs or with how the Debrief is to be put out there. But as I’m sure you are aware we all appreciate and enjoy your contribution to the show.
I mean, I don’t think you can really expect to contribute on a show and grab as little attention as possible. You’ll always get some exposure and eventually some people will find out who you are. And in time some of them will probably also forget.
To decide to diminish your contribution because of a few people finding out your identity seems a bit harsh to me. Do not get me wrong, obvbiously you are still the boss of you and it’s inpossible to argue with the way you feel about this, but I’d say you give it some time to let this blow over before deciding on your future on the show.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:18 #234 - me said:
i was figuring, less profile = less interest.
i do have to have a proper rethink about what to do at events though.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:19 #235 - Christine said:
But also, it seems, less interest in the show as well.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:21 #236 - Andy Taylor said:
I think the current formats work very well, with Christine doing the majority of the presenting/podcasting and Mr C joining in the Debrief and Panel shows. The debrief shows are made by the interaction between the both of you.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:23 #237 - lou said:
ooo i’ve had an idea. buy a Michael Schumacher hat, no one will ever think it’s you cause you don’t really like Schumi
I agree with Steven, i wouldn’t let it stop you doing what you want to do. It would be a shame if you were not to meet some of us because of this. maybe we ever want there to be a future Karting event it might just be a spc and friends event? that way everyone is aware of spc and will know not to take and put up photos of you. That way the only people you expose your identity to is the people you chat to most days online anyway
either that or it’s stated before hand so not spc people know? but i can understand that this may have made you rethink things.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:30 #238 - R.G (Bracket reduced due to testing restrictions) said:
Mr C’s anonymity has been breached.
Welcome whoever will be joining me on -1,000,000 points on the next panel. Could be a great fightback, Jimmy Glass style.
I’ll be honest, I don’t really want my face on the interweb, or for that fact, my real name. (Damn that BATracer). Didn’t want to click the link cos I like to think what the big guy looks like, adds in the fun of him, I do enjoy Mr C on Debrief. My opinion is if your gonna do a good long show, you gotta have two or more people involved (obv. excluded Digest, Mini’s etc). I don’t wanna see Mr C lurk back into the shadows, I wanna see Mr C behind the camera, in the panda suit giving us what he’s got.
Mr C does a lot for the show, my lord a lot, the site, a lot of things. And I’ll credit it for him.
Actually, this is turning into the facebook ‘Mr C Appreciation Society’ here, so I’ll get back to anonomoninity
I for one don’t know what you look like, still convinced your the Mayor of Cheshire
and called Rob. But of course, I’m only kidding when I say that. Hell, I could walk into you doon the high street, share obsenities between each other, come back on and realise it was you and I 
Don’t restrict yourself, the people who you will end up seeing at Silverstone, the Lou’s, the Dank’s of this sidepodworld, would have seen you before, I think, unless you dress like a pit mechanic for Renault, or Five Live.
My dear lord can I waffle. Woulda been easier to say ‘Mr C rules, stay in show, stay anonomoys, I didnt see pic, you rule’
So do you Christine, you’ll get your chance to get a R.G Appreciation Post soon
January 12th, 2009 at 21:31 #239 - R.G (Bracket reduced due to testing restrictions) said:
Oh come on, I put a lot of thought into a comment and its moderated.
First person to be moderated (good explanation) without a link?
January 12th, 2009 at 21:37 #240 - Andy Taylor said:
Were you saying how nice you think the new cars are?
January 12th, 2009 at 21:39 #241 - R.G (Bracket reduced due to testing restrictions) said:
Nah, was saying how good Mr C is.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:43 #242 - me said:
damn, that ruins my plan somewhat
January 12th, 2009 at 21:45 #243 - R.G (Bracket reduced due to testing restrictions) said:
The new mod queue is it?
January 12th, 2009 at 21:46 #244 - me said:
January 12th, 2009 at 21:46 #245 - me said:
thought i’d found a way around it. not so apparently.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:47 #246 - Jeremy said:
Sorry old chap – you’re British. The word you need here is eccentric! To the rest of the world, this is expected from the British. So, you are in fact, normal!
I guess you still have your ‘less than total star struck devotion to Lewis’ to fall back on as a differentiator. Sidepodcast – No Sheep! (A reference to an Australian advert for Pedders Suspension – their slogan is No Bull!)
January 12th, 2009 at 21:48 #247 - R.G (Bracket reduced due to testing restrictions) said:
Ah, so don’t waffle.
I’m screwed then
January 12th, 2009 at 21:49 #248 - me said:
another great subheading
January 12th, 2009 at 21:52 #249 - Dom said:
I have a feeling I’ll be asking a lot of people in costumes if they’re ‘me’ at Silverstone…
I shall prepare myself for the irritated and slightly worried looks I’m likely to get back.
January 12th, 2009 at 21:53 #250 - me said:
January 12th, 2009 at 22:00 #251 - Andy Taylor said:
Wow. I feel honoured now
January 12th, 2009 at 23:53 #252 - littlepurplegoth said:
Lol
There are a couple of trade shows I refuse to go to, because they want to see photo ID for entry…
(although, that’s mainly because I abhor the creeping ‘ID’isation of everything and this idea that its normal to give away youself to ‘get’ something – especially when the person doing the getting and getting the benefit (in this case of *me* spending money with people who have paid money for a stand) is *not me!*
January 13th, 2009 at 00:07 #253 - me said:
completely agree